Lol Google blocks truth social from play store.

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#151 Eoten
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@zaryia said:
@eoten said:
@tjandmia said:
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I'd say we have an issue with your interpretation of what a publisher is. I'd say NOTRUTH SOCIAL is the publisher of the content, not Google.

Oh wow, you said "no" truth social instead of truth social. What a genius to come up with such a clever play on words. You're sooooooooo cool now.

What's worse than a Dad joke? Someone getting mad at one. 😆

That wasn't a dad joke. It was a lame ass attempt to mock something.

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#152 deactivated-6717e99227ada
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More like fake news social, am I right?

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#153 comp_atkins
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@eoten said:
@zaryia said:
@eoten said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

I'd say we have an issue with your interpretation of what a publisher is. I'd say NOTRUTH SOCIAL is the publisher of the content, not Google.

Oh wow, you said "no" truth social instead of truth social. What a genius to come up with such a clever play on words. You're sooooooooo cool now.

What's worse than a Dad joke? Someone getting mad at one. 😆

That wasn't a dad joke. It was a lame ass attempt to mock something.

reminds me of mark levin's rants over the "washington compost", "new york slimes", and "mslsd"

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#154 comp_atkins
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@silentchief said:
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@Maroxad said:

Freedom of speech means more than just being able to say what you want. Another important part of freedom of speech is freedom of association. Google should not be forced to publish and support calls for violence.

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Well, this turned into an @silentchief meltdown pretty fast. 😆

That is what happens when people get told what to think by lousy YouTube pundits.

Except Google isn't publishing anything. This is what happens when you argue with people that have no clue wtf their talking about 🤣🤣

This is criticism Google has received in the past as they act like a publisher but have none of the consequences that actual publishers face. They want to act like a publishers that's fine? So if little Suzie kills her herself because she was harassed on Tik Tok then Google needs to be prepared to pay up. Right now they have all the power with no responsibility.

lets rewind all of this and start at the beginning.

simple yes or no question. nothing else.

should google be allowed to decide what apps they host on their app store, yes or no?

if you can't answer that question with a simple yes or no, we're all wasting our time here.

Yes, and they should also be held to the same standards as a publisher since they like to act like one. Not sure why you all have such issue with this.

what standards would those be? how are they "acting like a publisher"?

should a bookstore be accountable for the books it sells or the publishers of said books?

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#155 Silentchief
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@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:
@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:
@Maroxad said:

Freedom of speech means more than just being able to say what you want. Another important part of freedom of speech is freedom of association. Google should not be forced to publish and support calls for violence.

That is what happens when people get told what to think by lousy YouTube pundits.

Except Google isn't publishing anything. This is what happens when you argue with people that have no clue wtf their talking about 🤣🤣

This is criticism Google has received in the past as they act like a publisher but have none of the consequences that actual publishers face. They want to act like a publishers that's fine? So if little Suzie kills her herself because she was harassed on Tik Tok then Google needs to be prepared to pay up. Right now they have all the power with no responsibility.

lets rewind all of this and start at the beginning.

simple yes or no question. nothing else.

should google be allowed to decide what apps they host on their app store, yes or no?

if you can't answer that question with a simple yes or no, we're all wasting our time here.

Yes, and they should also be held to the same standards as a publisher since they like to act like one. Not sure why you all have such issue with this.

what standards would those be? how are they "acting like a publisher"?

should a bookstore be accountable for the books it sells or the publishers of said books?

Do bookstores ban books because they don't meet the stores standards?

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#156 comp_atkins
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@silentchief said:
@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:
@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:

Except Google isn't publishing anything. This is what happens when you argue with people that have no clue wtf their talking about 🤣🤣

This is criticism Google has received in the past as they act like a publisher but have none of the consequences that actual publishers face. They want to act like a publishers that's fine? So if little Suzie kills her herself because she was harassed on Tik Tok then Google needs to be prepared to pay up. Right now they have all the power with no responsibility.

lets rewind all of this and start at the beginning.

simple yes or no question. nothing else.

should google be allowed to decide what apps they host on their app store, yes or no?

if you can't answer that question with a simple yes or no, we're all wasting our time here.

Yes, and they should also be held to the same standards as a publisher since they like to act like one. Not sure why you all have such issue with this.

what standards would those be? how are they "acting like a publisher"?

should a bookstore be accountable for the books it sells or the publishers of said books?

Do bookstores ban books because they don't meet the stores standards?

again, you didn't answer.

seems a habit of yours.

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#158 deactivated-6717e99227ada
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Kiwi was taken down? That's good to know!

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#159  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@girlusocrazy said:
@Maroxad said:

Another Malicious website got taken down recently: Kiwifarms. Counter-intuitive as it is. Free speech cannot exist without some regulation. Otherwise you get a system where individuals are using their speech, to coerce, threaten and in other ways silence others. Where Free Speech only exist for those who shout the loudest.

Sites like Truth Social and Kiwifarms, ironically enough, make us less free.

It isn't down, just Cloudflare declines to provide reverse proxy services. Simple solution is don't go through Cloudflare, point the domain directly to the host. They just don't want to for whatever reason but they're out there playing the victim anyway.

I hope Keffals can find some relief. She deserves it after all she has gone through.

Yeah, that sucks

Kiwifarms is effectively dead. They won’t have an IP address soon and the company that is protecting them at the moment and allowing them to still exist on the real web will drop them soon. They will soon be a shell of themselves wandering the dark web. They will occasionally try to come back on the world wide web but any attempts will fail.

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#161  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@girlusocrazy said:
@super600 said:

Kiwifarms is effectively dead. They won’t have an IP address soon

I guess that's the owner's decision. They are not being denied presence on the regular internet. They just don't want to use the options available.

Yep. Moon unless he is joking basically admitted the future of kiwifarms is bleak.He doesn't have the resources to sustain the site long term.

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#162 hansbeej
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So they were denied their trademark request, the investment group that is attempting to merge with them is under investigation for how it obviously violated rules, they are already stiffing their vendors (literally the most important one for such a service), their stock prices continue to nosedive, they have flatlined in growth and activity, and now Google won't allow them on PlayStore - where the majority of US mobile users get their apps.

Hah. This entre circus was clearly destined to fail from the start. I am surprised it's still online, honestly.

And since Apple tends to be more strict than Google when it comes to who they platform, I wonder if they'll be kicking it off the App Store soon.

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#163 JimB
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@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

The freedom of speech is to protect speech you do not like or agree with not speech you like.

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#164  Edited By JimB
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@comp_atkins said:
@eoten said:
@zaryia said:
@eoten said:

Oh wow, you said "no" truth social instead of truth social. What a genius to come up with such a clever play on words. You're sooooooooo cool now.

What's worse than a Dad joke? Someone getting mad at one. 😆

That wasn't a dad joke. It was a lame ass attempt to mock something.

reminds me of mark levin's rants over the "washington compost", "new york slimes", and "mslsd"

Mark Levins comments are correct and he can back them up, something left journalists and commentator's can't do.

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#165 LJS9502_basic
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@JimB said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

The freedom of speech is to protect speech you do not like or agree with not speech you like.

Freedom of speech pertains only to government suppression. Not the free market. Might want to brush up on the Constitution if you're going to wave it around.

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#166 comp_atkins
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@JimB said:
@comp_atkins said:
@eoten said:
@zaryia said:
@eoten said:

Oh wow, you said "no" truth social instead of truth social. What a genius to come up with such a clever play on words. You're sooooooooo cool now.

What's worse than a Dad joke? Someone getting mad at one. 😆

That wasn't a dad joke. It was a lame ass attempt to mock something.

reminds me of mark levin's rants over the "washington compost", "new york slimes", and "mslsd"

Mark Levins comments are correct and he can back them up, something left journalists and commentator's can't do.

lol

"your joke was lame but my same joke was awesome!"

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#167 Lotus-Edge
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I miss the days when you could say and read about, near, whatever you wanted. This sanitization just takes the interest and uniqueness of the Internet away.

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#168 SargentD
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@comp_atkins: I call em MSDNC

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#169 SargentD
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@comp_atkins: the internet gets more corporate and censored every year. Social media is cancer and governments are to involved in what the largest platforms are allowed to do. You cant really be an open platform anymore. It doesn't exist.

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#170  Edited By tjandmia
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@sargentd: People like you seem to have convicted yourselves of a misconception. There has never been and will never be what you define as an open platform.

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#171 comp_atkins
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@sargentd said:

@comp_atkins: the internet gets more corporate and censored every year. Social media is cancer and governments are to involved in what the largest platforms are allowed to do. You cant really be an open platform anymore. It doesn't exist.

you have no argument there. we had a nice internet once..

now that we've built an economy where personal data and clicks are currency, of course the most well funded entities are going to take it over. not only controlling of content but controlling of politicians who make policy to oversee their industry ( regulatory capture )

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#172 hansbeej
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Imagine defending Truth Social