Megaton story. Clinton Campaign funded Russia Dossier.

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All of this came from the same informant. This was part of the information leaked. It that still not permissable?

If so, go ahead with it. But still, the emails really are a thread of their own. I guess it depends on where you guys want to take this topic. Discuss all that this one informant had of information, or keep it to why the topic was created in the first place.

I also tend only to close topics if they go off topic rather quickly. This one is closing in on 100 posts, so no I won't lock it. Unless it changes completely (like it suddenly belongs to another forum in here)

I think he should provide links......

I ask you for proof in pretty much every thread and you throw out BS. LOL rich coming from you.

Nope I give links when required. You changed the narrative of this thread with ZERO proof. Trolling then?

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@horgen said:
@n64dd said:

All of this came from the same informant. This was part of the information leaked. It that still not permissable?

If so, go ahead with it. But still, the emails really are a thread of their own. I guess it depends on where you guys want to take this topic. Discuss all that this one informant had of information, or keep it to why the topic was created in the first place.

I also tend only to close topics if they go off topic rather quickly. This one is closing in on 100 posts, so no I won't lock it. Unless it changes completely (like it suddenly belongs to another forum in here)

I think he should provide links......

I ask you for proof in pretty much every thread and you throw out BS. LOL rich coming from you.

Nope I give links when required. You changed the narrative of this thread with ZERO proof. Trolling then?

I'm going to give your response. If you knew anything about politics or paid attention to the news you would know that all kinds of things are coming out.

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#103  Edited By Zaryia
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So the biggest anti-left stories this year were nearly all broken by the "liberal media".

Could it be that it's mostly just Fox and MSNBC who are ultra polarized and the rest are near the center? (Not including Breitbart, Infowars, TGWP, TYT, etc as those are really just blogs and aggregates).

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#104 Frank_Castle
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@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

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@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

CNN is definitely centrist. They employ more than 15 pro-Trump shills and parade them on TV all day for the sake of "balance", despite the fact the pro-Trump shills are total idiots who lie to CNN and the audiences' faces.

You'd know this if you actually had any idea what you're talking about.

Study: CNN's paid Trump shills made more than 500 appearances over the last three months

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@frank_castle said:

@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

CNN is definitely centrist. They employ more than 15 pro-Trump shills and parade them on TV all day for the sake of "balance", despite the fact the pro-Trump shills are total idiots who lie to CNN and the audiences' faces.

You'd know this if you actually had any idea what you're talking about.

Study: CNN's paid Trump shills made more than 500 appearances over the last three months

I feel like everyone who doesn't already know/acknowledge that right wing media's framing of all other media as "leftist" is an intentional propaganda technique never will.

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100+ posts later and the cons are still pretending that the dossier didn't originate within the GOP? OMFG LOL

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@tjandmia: yeah fox news is ignoring that fact as well

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@n64dd: Uranium One kickback....

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The uranium one kickback? They literally believe the dumbest shit. Omfg lol...

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@frank_castle said:

@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

CNN is balanced. They have moronic trumpettes on all the time getting their asses handed to them.

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@mattbbpl said:
@perfect_blue said:
@frank_castle said:

@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

CNN is definitely centrist. They employ more than 15 pro-Trump shills and parade them on TV all day for the sake of "balance", despite the fact the pro-Trump shills are total idiots who lie to CNN and the audiences' faces.

You'd know this if you actually had any idea what you're talking about.

Study: CNN's paid Trump shills made more than 500 appearances over the last three months

I feel like everyone who doesn't already know/acknowledge that right wing media's framing of all other media as "leftist" is an intentional propaganda technique never will.

It's a technique that works. Believe it or not, you just have to repeat it enough times.

Also, I don't think CNN becomes more centrist because of 15 or so Trump fans if the rest is clearly leaning left. That just means CNN is divided.

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@horgen said:
@mattbbpl said:

I feel like everyone who doesn't already know/acknowledge that right wing media's framing of all other media as "leftist" is an intentional propaganda technique never will.

It's a technique that works. Believe it or not, you just have to repeat it enough times.

Also, I don't think CNN becomes more centrist because of 15 or so Trump fans if the rest is clearly leaning left. That just means CNN is divided.

Eh....they give both sides of their stories. The viewer is free to make up their mind unlike fox which tells them what to think.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Eh....they give both sides of their stories. The viewer is free to make up their mind unlike fox which tells them what to think.

Of most stories or only a few ones?

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@perfect_blue said:
@frank_castle said:

@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

And you’re the “rational” ones...

CNN is definitely centrist. They employ more than 15 pro-Trump shills and parade them on TV all day for the sake of "balance", despite the fact the pro-Trump shills are total idiots who lie to CNN and the audiences' faces.

You'd know this if you actually had any idea what you're talking about.

Study: CNN's paid Trump shills made more than 500 appearances over the last three months

CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

Not to mention with a truth rating of only 16% (fox has 12-13%) they clearly have moved away from it´s original track of being a neutral observer.

And anyone in doubt just need to look at the recent months , they have gone from reporting actual news to reporting rumors, lies and mudfights. Not to mention who can forget they threats to dox a guy who despite his "past" only made a meme with cnn in it.

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@frank_castle said:

@zaryia: Are you seriously trying to pass off a network like CNN as “towards the center” and anything other than leaning even further to the left than Fox does to the right?

The only studies I've seen on this matter show CNN is not as biased as Fox or MSNBC. Like I've said, most major stories that harm the DNC are broken by the "liberal media". Mostly because that is just a shitty talking point, they are more so center leaning.

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CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

1. This is your opinion until you can prove it with a study.

2. How about WaPo and NYT? Are they still " the liberal media"?

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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

1. This is your opinion until you can prove it with a study.

2. How about WaPo and NYT? Are they still " the liberal media"?

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

1. This is your opinion until you can prove it with a study.

2. How about WaPo and NYT? Are they still " the liberal media"?

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

Was(out) post? Were you trying to insult them or did you have a seizure? :D

Look, just because they post something factually negative about your dear leader, it doesn't mean they're hardcore leftists. It just means that they're doing their job and not being the propaganda machine that is Faux News.

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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

1. This is your opinion until you can prove it with a study.

2. How about WaPo and NYT? Are they still " the liberal media"?

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

Was(out) post? Were you trying to insult them or did you have a seizure? :D

Look, just because they post something factually negative about your dear leader, it doesn't mean they're hardcore leftists. It just means that they're doing their job and not being the propaganda machine that is Faux News.

Funny, but i guess you don´t have a problem with stories that are so big lies that it took Forbes around 5min to disprove it.

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@Jacanuk said:

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

1. So you can't back up your claim with stats or studies. Thought so.

2. Washington post broke the major Anti-DNC stories of this year. What in the living hell are you talking about? Far Left? Proof?

They are center-left. Just like NYT. Just like CNN. All 3 of these have higher credibility and trust ratings than Fox.

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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

1. So you can't back up your claim with stats or studies. Thought so.

2. Washington post broke the major Anti-DNC stories of this year. What in the living hell are you talking about? Far Left? Proof?

They are center-left. Just like NYT. Just like CNN. All 3 of these have higher credibility and trust ratings than Fox.

1: So you can´t look and see yourself.

2. May want to go check up on the post and look at the stories a more "neutral" paper like Forbes came out with about the missing fact checks and direct lies the wash-out post has come up with.

And they are no where center left, they are far-left. Get your facts straight. Or wait i know you need a poll to decide anything, so wait a bit im sure the far-left media will make you one.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

CNN is not centrist, they have during Trump´s campagin and now during his presidency become a polar opposite to Fox news. They may have been a "centrist" news soruce but today they are so far left that they make Fox news look centrist sometimes.

1. This is your opinion until you can prove it with a study.

2. How about WaPo and NYT? Are they still " the liberal media"?

1. Do not need to prove something anyone can see with their own eyes just watching 5min of CNN

2. Was(out) post is a far-left media who have trouble with the truth and clearly do not fact check their stories.

New york Times is in New York and is of course learning the way it´s readers are.

So no evidence to back your opinion then.

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1: So you can´t look and see yourself.

2. May want to go check up on the post and look at the stories a more "neutral" paper like Forbes came out with about the missing fact checks and direct lies the wash-out post has come up with.

And they are no where center left, they are far-left. Get your facts straight. Or wait i know you need a poll to decide anything, so wait a bit im sure the far-left media will make you one.

1. That isn't how debating works. You're making substantial claims, prove them.

2. WaPo has a very high credibility rating. They also have tons of awards and are extremely reputable. They tower above any RW source in terms of trust rating. Hell, this thread is based off of one of their breaking stories. NYT broke the Harvey Weinstein story. If Fox didn't have so few investigative journalists maybe they would break major stories and win Pulitzer too. But they don't, and they won't. Because they are "News Entertainment" trash.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_won_by_The_Washington_Post

https://www.rjionline.org/reporthtml.html

Get your facts straight.

Provide citation showing Wapo, NYT, and CNN are far left.

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@tjandmia said:

The uranium one kickback? They literally believe the dumbest shit. Omfg lol...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/obama-era-uranium-deal/index.html LOL.

From Gamespot's owners... CBS version https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-probes-2010-uranium-deal-with-russia/

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Investigations into Trump by this firm/individual were paid for twice, first by Jed Bush and then by Hillary Clinton, and despite who was paying for the opposition research, it was ultimately the ex-British spy that was conducting the opposition research who decided to leak his own findings to people in US intelligence and not just quietly hand over findings to his clients. And this is hardly bombshell news since there's nothing here that makes us think that this Russia investigation was fabricated political stunt, that's just the narrative Republicans and Fox News are trying to paint while they toss red meat at their base with non-stories like the uranium mine sale.

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I wonder how these partisan hacks feel like now. I'm sure they support Bush, too.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

I wonder how these partisan hacks feel like now. I'm sure they support Bush, too.

Fun that you can see so clearly that they are far-left protesters. :)

Bunch of hippies all of them........;)

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@Jacanuk said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I wonder how these partisan hacks feel like now. I'm sure they support Bush, too.

Fun that you can see so clearly that they are far-left protesters. :)

Bunch of hippies all of them........;)

Your intolerance knows no bounds........

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@ronvalencia said:
@tjandmia said:

The uranium one kickback? They literally believe the dumbest shit. Omfg lol...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/obama-era-uranium-deal/index.html LOL.

From Gamespot's owners... CBS version https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-probes-2010-uranium-deal-with-russia/

Yeah, so dopey republicans are doing one of their clown car investigations in hopes of taking heat off of Trump. What's your point?

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@Gaming-Planet said:

I wonder how these partisan hacks feel like now. I'm sure they support Bush, too.

They probably don't. But don't let that keep you from leaving you basement and posting more Steven Crowder videos.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I wonder how these partisan hacks feel like now. I'm sure they support Bush, too.

They probably don't. But don't let that keep you from leaving you basement and posting more Steven Crowder videos.

Okay, I'll post this one instead.

Not much different. Neither in a leftist or right wing bubble. :)

And yes, they probably do. No need to throw insults and project your life's failures.

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Aaaaaaaaand this is why you should NEVER take a conservative seriously..

The Washington free beacon, a conservative group has finally admitted to funding the dossier.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-gop-ties-funded-trump-research-003508149--politics.html

How many times do you have to learn the same lesson over and over? Republican voters are the dumbest people alive. Never take anything they write or say as fact

I guarantee you they're just flat out wrong.