SCOTUS News : Justice Kennedy is retiring

Remind him every day.

McConnel '16: "The people deserve a say!"
McConnel '18: "....."

@horgen: Chuck's on top of it.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/chuck-schumer-republicans-should-delay-vote-on-anthony-kennedy-replacement/

I mean, cool and all, but I truly don't think Mitch is going to care and I think he will be highly rewarded for getting in another SCOTUS judge before the midterms. Fighting dirty is literally what republican voters want.

expect confirmation hearings this fall

Yup, if indeed it takes even that long. Frankly I feel like an idiot for ever wanting bipartisanship. I mean it would still be better to find a somewhat benign middle ground, but I don't think most people give a shit about politicians doing their best to work together to help as many people as they can in the country. All they really want is a win for themselves and screw the rest. That still isn't what I want personally, but I have no idea how anyone expects to be able to change that mindset on a large enough scale to make a difference.

This isn’t the end of it. By the time of Trump’s 2nd term (and let’s be honest, he’s 99% going to be re-elected), he’s going to have a third retire. Ginsberg is 85. I highly doubt she's going to hold on for another 6 years.

I’m an independent so this doesn’t much affect me, but man....liberals aren’t having the best of days. The SC’s going to be stacked for decades. Aside his personal issues, Trump is like a nightmare that keeps on giving.

lol....hysterical

he will be lucky to finish his first term, let alone have a 2nd.

@Serraph105: Oh yeah, I totally expect him to move swiftly while brandishing the middle finger to all naysayers.

@tryit: not that I don’t wish so, but historically incumbents are hard to defeat.

Not to mention the economy and N. Korea. Whether his responsibility or not, perception is what matters.

Oh, of course not. The only shit Mitch has ever given is bullshit. Just piles of it.

Yep. That would be classic Mitch.

LOL, it´s funny that you guys try that now.

But there is a huge difference between a presidential election and a mid-term.

Even CNN tore that argument down.

I was making a joke. They are definitely not going to wait. It was BS to pull then and it would be BS to pull now.

But seriously, if you believe for a second that Mitch McConnell would delay this vote if it was a presidential election year... then all I can say is I have a jar of snake oil you can buy. It's really good for you. Just post your credit card number and address on this forum and I'll be sure to ship you some.

Don't actually do that, it was also a joke.

I know it was a joke

And Mitchy boy will make the senators stay through the night until the vote is passed on the new nominee. There is no way in anything they will allow the Democrats to stall.

I even think they would go as far, as rolling Mccain in on a bed if needed.

Yep. And he would do the same if Kennedy waited until November 1st 2020. The man is full of crap.

@judaspete: Ya, but just wait until Ginsberg resigns next year lol.

Somehow I hope Trump manages to win reelection because then it´s certain he will appoint a new one for Ginsberg who is 85 now, meaning she will be 91 before Trump is done. Oh and not forgetting Breyer who is 78.

what policy(s) would you like to see championed by the supreme court? what is the ideal world for example?

All Democrats have to do is do what the gop did to Obama in 2016

But turtle man will get his last say.

@MirkoS77: I don't expect Trump to win a second term. Also, probably the next person would have to inherit the next recession.

Let's be absolutely clear here. I think the supreme court should act on the law and interpret the law, not act as lawmakers.

So the way the bench is right now is a complete and utter disgrace against democracy and against the whole idea about having 3 branches. Right now there is no separation between the judicial and the lawmaking branch, the president appoints judges based on party lines which is a horrible practice and most other civilised democracies have gone away from this practice and have a very strong separation.

So the only way is to form an independent commission to appoint justices like they have In the UK.

I for one find comfort in having a Supreme Court that will always rule in favor of Wall Street and the donor class. Those guys have a tough life and are in desperate need of an advocate.

The new Supreme Court Justice will be seated by October 8, 2018, the first day of the Supreme Courts new session.

Yup, hopefully, though the confirmation will be long before, I can´t wait that long.

But you have to admire Ginsburg, she was about to retire but only stayed because Trump won lol.

Alright, I'm going to stop being a dick and say that is a fantastic idea. Not going to happen, but a fantastic idea.

We'll see. I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

As an independent, like me, how will it not effect you unless most of your views lean towards the right?

Not really that awesome when the opinions of a majority of Americans gets completely disregarded for decades of laws.

I have some liberal views and some conservative ones. It'll affect me, but not enough that I'm going to get in a twist over it. The Supreme Court has leaned both ways for as long as it's been around. We've survived; we will continue to do so.

Has the SCOTUS ever been nearly all conservative before (Considering your 2nd term prediction comes true and Trump adds even more) in modern history?

I'm sure we will survive, but that's a lot of backwards ideas compared to the rest of the developed world that can go unchecked.

And the list Trump is using was compiled from the help of a group which is an extreme climate denier lol.

Ginsburg will be Trump's third abomination. She will probably pass away in office.

Remember Obama wanted her to retire.

There were WMD's though. They found 500 rounds of chemical munitions. So your prediction was wrong.

This is why they will hold off on nominations and confirmations, to pitch to the right voters that they need to come out and vote to protect the seat. Its win win for the right, if they hold off until after the election, and hold on the current seats, they have a lock for whoever is nominated. If they lose, the can nominate and confirm during the lame duck season.

This is exactly why the Whitehouse mattered even to those who didn't care for Hillary or Trump. Saw this coming a mile away and knew the SC makeup would be drastically changed as a result of 2016.

Where are the people who claimed both candidates are the same now? Are they willing to come out and say that the rulings over the last several weeks would have been unchanged if Garland were on the bench? What about all the Bernie Bros or Jill Stein fans who as well?

It sucks but this is the way things are going to be. Conservatives knew what a Trump presidency would bring them and they were smart to gather around a deplorable candidate since it meant stacking the bench.

exactly. we need to wait until the next presidential election.

look, mitchy set the precedent. if he doesn't want to follow it now, he's a hypocritical shitbag. not that that ever bothered people like him before. as long as, like a toddler, he gets his way with his tantrums.

Being a shit bag paid off, now that's the kind of precedent that will carry on in US politics for years to come! Take a note dems, it's OK to lie, cheat, steal, obstruct everything...it'll all work out in the end.

The erosion of political norms in the last 15 years or so is depressing.

Party of law yet fighting dirty... Those two goes well together.

that was the source of my question

thanks for giving me the opportunity to point out that those chemical munitions where.

1. decaying

2. given to Iraq by US

3. very old

4. not remotely a lot.

so nope...please link that article again, that was the best link ever

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chemical-weapons-found-in-iraq-nyt-report-135347507.html

"'Nothing of significance’ is what I was ordered to say,”

not even reported until 2014?

Among the reasons for the secrecy? "The discoveries of these chemical weapons did not support the government’s invasion rationale,"

I have now add this news articles to all my browser favorites...thank you

what are you talking about?

the confirmation of Trump candidates for the Supreme Court will go better if Democrats control the house and the senate?

what?????????????????????????????

Very nice! Once Ginsburg steps down he can shape the court for years to come.

Yup and she was about to retire when "Clinton" won. But she has said that she would not resign as long as Trump is in the white house.

But it will be interesting if Trump wins re-election he stands to fill 2 more seats. making the supreme court almost entirely conservative and no more "legislation from the bench"

500 isn't a lot? Of course they were decaying. They're still gas weapons. WMD are not just limited to nuclear weapons. This story came out around 2004-2005.

@Jacanuk: "almost entirely conservative and no more 'legislation from the bench'"

Interesting that you see one as a direct result of the other.

You do realize after the election there will be a period where those currently in their seats finish their terms (as mentioned in my post), right? You should have learned this already, especially since you are near senior citizen discount age. But like I mentioned to you before, there is still plenty of time for you to grow up and learn; maybe you'll even start voting regularly, hopefully you make educated votes.

QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE:

Among the reasons for the secrecy? "The discoveries of these chemical weapons did not support the government’s invasion rationale,"

thank you for bring this story back to light

advice to help out your own tactics: READ THE ARTICLE..because every time you bring this topic up. The substance of the article becomes highlight.

then go read Art of War

yes..

and how does that change anything I have said remotely?

how is that observation even related?

this is why I originally said, they might want to push it out to.....February

why did I say February?