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@mattbbpl said:

@sonicare: Pssst... Justices don't make laws

:-P I'm sure you know and it was just a slip of the tongue, but I couldn't resist pointing it out.

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

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@sonicare said:
@mattbbpl said:

@sonicare: Pssst... Justices don't make laws

:-P I'm sure you know and it was just a slip of the tongue, but I couldn't resist pointing it out.

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

Would you feel the same if it was Clinton and she had 3 choices? and Garland was chosen.

The supreme court would be absolutely destroyed for decades.

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@Jacanuk said:
@sonicare said:

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

Would you feel the same if it was Clinton and she had 3 choices? and Garland was chosen.

The supreme court would be absolutely destroyed for decades.

It is now.

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@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:

,

@tryit said:

lol....

the first part is true, the second part is friggin funny.

GOP is going to get decimated

I don't think so. They really don't have a message to make people want to vote fore them. They are reportedly going to Hollywood to help them with their messaging, but has anyone heard the message they want help getting to the voters. I haven't, if you have please post it I would love to hear their message.

for the billionth time, and read this very very very closely please

Trump won based on this:

'we hate the democrats!'

he WON on that, that was his entire strategy.

Trump won on a message Make America Great Again. He said he would bring back jobs and cut taxes and that is what he did. Unemployment is the lowest it has been in many years. unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest it has ever been. His popularity among Blacks has risen from 11% to 22%. The promises he made to the country he kept. What have the Democrats done, zero, Called salary raises crumbs, and they want to repeal the tax cuts and take the crumbs back form the workers. Their main objective is to win in November to impeach Trump that is what the Democrats are campaigning on to get elected. Harassing people who work in his administration and their families has not gone unnoticed by the American people, abandoning The DACA folks has also not gone unnoticed either and yet you expect to take the House and the Senate. The Democrats will be lucky to hold on to what they have now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxWLQcOOck

we shall see.

you think those people in that protest this weekend are not motovated to vote against trump?

or the other countless times we had protests like that?

cry all you want about 'no message' this time it doesnt even matter.

The message is 'We Care..Do You?'

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I keep seeing articles about 'overturning Roe vs. Wade' because of the fact that Trump keeps advertising how he is 'putting conservatives on'.

If you support overturning R versus W, it's probably best that you die of colon cancer. Also, don't worry, you're feeble belief in the giant sky daddy won't save you.

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@Jacanuk said:
@sonicare said:
@mattbbpl said:

@sonicare: Pssst... Justices don't make laws

:-P I'm sure you know and it was just a slip of the tongue, but I couldn't resist pointing it out.

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

Would you feel the same if it was Clinton and she had 3 choices? and Garland was chosen.

The supreme court would be absolutely destroyed for decades.

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@sonicare said:
@mattbbpl said:

@sonicare: Pssst... Justices don't make laws

:-P I'm sure you know and it was just a slip of the tongue, but I couldn't resist pointing it out.

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

Would you feel the same if it was Clinton and she had 3 choices? and Garland was chosen.

The supreme court would be absolutely destroyed for decades.

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

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@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:

,

@tryit said:

lol....

the first part is true, the second part is friggin funny.

GOP is going to get decimated

I don't think so. They really don't have a message to make people want to vote fore them. They are reportedly going to Hollywood to help them with their messaging, but has anyone heard the message they want help getting to the voters. I haven't, if you have please post it I would love to hear their message.

for the billionth time, and read this very very very closely please

Trump won based on this:

'we hate the democrats!'

he WON on that, that was his entire strategy.

Trump won on a message Make America Great Again. He said he would bring back jobs and cut taxes and that is what he did. Unemployment is the lowest it has been in many years. unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest it has ever been. His popularity among Blacks has risen from 11% to 22%. The promises he made to the country he kept. What have the Democrats done, zero, Called salary raises crumbs, and they want to repeal the tax cuts and take the crumbs back form the workers. Their main objective is to win in November to impeach Trump that is what the Democrats are campaigning on to get elected. Harassing people who work in his administration and their families has not gone unnoticed by the American people, abandoning The DACA folks has also not gone unnoticed either and yet you expect to take the House and the Senate. The Democrats will be lucky to hold on to what they have now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxWLQcOOck

we shall see.

you think those people in that protest this weekend are not motovated to vote against trump?

or the other countless times we had protests like that?

cry all you want about 'no message' this time it doesnt even matter.

The message is 'We Care..Do You?'

There were a number of Democratic politicians from the senate and congress also protesting. They were saying shoot the messenger (ICE) not us who sent the message. Congress created the laws that ICE enforces not ICE. This whole thing as I have stated before is a Red Herring when the opportunity arose in the last two weeks to change the laws the Republicans could not a agree and two proposals were defeated and the Democrats were no shows as usual, but they join protests to abolish ICE. There were more people who didn't protest and they also have a vote.

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@Jacanuk said:

solutely destroyed for decades.

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

Nope. Just want to make America better. Your side wanted to win and they didn't know what they were voting for.

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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:

solutely destroyed for decades.

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

Nope. Just want to make America better. Your side wanted to win and they didn't know what they were voting for.

And who made you god and decided that your opinion is what makes America better?

If you look at our country right now, do you feel 8 years with your side made America a better place?

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@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:

solutely destroyed for decades.

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

Nope. Just want to make America better. Your side wanted to win and they didn't know what they were voting for.

And who made you god and decided that your opinion is what makes America better?

If you look at our country right now, do you feel 8 years with your side made America a better place?

What made you think you know better, despite being proven wrong numerous times? I'm no God but I am a realist and after realizing the bullshit republican and lolibertarian logic and seeing the successes of the "evil" socialist countries such as Norway and Sweden, and even the U.S. as they pursue policies that help people, I'd rather go for policies that work instead of destroying people's lives because brown people are scary. I'd rather go for policies that work instead of sticking to ideological horseshit because capitalism or socialism is evil.

You just elected Trump who said that he alone was the only person to fix it. You elected the faux God. The last 8 years wasn't perfect but at least we had a president who gave a shit instead of a narcissistic scum bag. But you won't agree. You think Trump is God and the savior who defeated ISIS and saved the economy, even though that's horseshit. Obama's policies improved things. Trump took credit because Trump and people like you take credit for other people's work and will never credit a black man for making things better.

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#162 Jacanuk
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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:

Yeah, America might have actually been better. Equal rights, families not getting separated, and affordable healthcare.

But I know, you prefer following the constitution, except for that silly 1st Amendment and the rest, except for the 2nd. That one is important for resisting government tyranny just in case FEMA troops come in and destroy white people America. Oh boy, yeah, that could have been a doozey.

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

Nope. Just want to make America better. Your side wanted to win and they didn't know what they were voting for.

And who made you god and decided that your opinion is what makes America better?

If you look at our country right now, do you feel 8 years with your side made America a better place?

What made you think you know better, despite being proven wrong numerous times? I'm no God but I am a realist and after realizing the bullshit republican and lolibertarian logic and seeing the successes of the "evil" socialist countries such as Norway and Sweden, and even the U.S. as they pursue policies that help people, I'd rather go for policies that work instead of destroying people's lives because brown people are scary. I'd rather go for policies that work instead of sticking to ideological horseshit because capitalism or socialism is evil.

You just elected Trump who said that he alone was the only person to fix it. You elected the faux God. The last 8 years wasn't perfect but at least we had a president who gave a shit instead of a narcissistic scum bag. But you won't agree. You think Trump is God and the savior who defeated ISIS and saved the economy, even though that's horseshit. Obama's policies improved things. Trump took credit because Trump and people like you take credit for other people's work and will never credit a black man for making things better.

What makes I think I know better, well I never said my opinion is the only valid one, I am not you and your side.

And realist is a soft term for a side that keeps acting like they have the divine truth and refuse to see anything else. And I would rather go with policies that secure our borders and makes sure that legal immigration is the right course for all people. After all, even your precious Obama knew that the borders needed to be secured and people who can´t uphold our laws have no place in America.

Also, neither Sweden or Norway is a paradise, I bet you would love to pay 50-60% in tax and live in one of the most restrictive countries on earth or Norway in one of the most expensive places on earth.

Trump was elected because we were all tired of Obama and your sides frantic attempt to please the ultra-far-leftists.

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y, even though that's horseshit. Obama's policies improved things. Trump took credit because Trump and people like you take credit for other people's work and will never credit a black man for making things better.

What makes I think I know better, well I never said my opinion is the only valid one, I am not you and your side.

And realist is a soft term for a side that keeps acting like they have the divine truth and refuse to see anything else. And I would rather go with policies that secure our borders and makes sure that legal immigration is the right course for all people. After all, even your precious Obama knew that the borders needed to be secured and people who can´t uphold our laws have no place in America.

Also, neither Sweden or Norway is a paradise, I bet you would love to pay 50-60% in tax and live in one of the most restrictive countries on earth or Norway in one of the most expensive places on earth.

Trump was elected because we were all tired of Obama and your sides frantic attempt to please the ultra-far-leftists.

@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:

All I see here is "buuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuu, my opinion is better and I don´t care about hypocrisy or justice, I just want my side to win because my opinion is da best"

No wonder the left is in crisis.

Nope. Just want to make America better. Your side wanted to win and they didn't know what they were voting for.

And who made you god and decided that your opinion is what makes America better?

If you look at our country right now, do you feel 8 years with your side made America a better place?

What made you think you know better, despite being proven wrong numerous times? I'm no God but I am a realist and after realizing the bullshit republican and lolibertarian logic and seeing the successes of the "evil" socialist countries such as Norway and Sweden, and even the U.S. as they pursue policies that help people, I'd rather go for policies that work instead of destroying people's lives because brown people are scary. I'd rather go for policies that work instead of sticking to ideological horseshit because capitalism or socialism is evil.

You just elected Trump who said that he alone was the only person to fix it. You elected the faux God. The last 8 years wasn't perfect but at least we had a president who gave a shit instead of a narcissistic scum bag. But you won't agree. You think Trump is God and the savior who defeated ISIS and saved the economy, even though that's horseshit. Obama's policies improved things. Trump took credit because Trump and people like you take credit for other people's work and will never credit a black man for making things better.

What makes I think I know better, well I never said my opinion is the only valid one, I am not you and your side.

And realist is a soft term for a side that keeps acting like they have the divine truth and refuse to see anything else. And I would rather go with policies that secure our borders and makes sure that legal immigration is the right course for all people. After all, even your precious Obama knew that the borders needed to be secured and people who can´t uphold our laws have no place in America.

Also, neither Sweden or Norway is a paradise, I bet you would love to pay 50-60% in tax and live in one of the most restrictive countries on earth or Norway in one of the most expensive places on earth.

Trump was elected because we were all tired of Obama and your sides frantic attempt to please the ultra-far-leftists.

Putting words in my mouth. Cheap tactic from a desperate fanatic who can't debate proper. Never said Sweden and Norway were paradises. There is always a downside but if the positives outweigh the negatives, then perhaps it's the best policy to pursue. Obama was not perfect either and I even said that in my previous post. But it's okay, education and facts is a liberal concept. Emotion and fanaticism is the new GOP philosophy.

Obama supported borders despite being accused that he was for open borders by right wing fanatics such as yourself. But he didn't pursue idiotic policies such as a wall or separating families.

As for Trump getting elected, dude, believe what you want but he got elected by the minority who were scared of brown people. That's it. You can sugar-coat it all you want but that's the reality.

It's funny how Trumpettes can be so politically correct and offended they can get. Call them for what they are, and they start squirming.

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@Jacanuk said:
@sonicare said:
@mattbbpl said:

@sonicare: Pssst... Justices don't make laws

:-P I'm sure you know and it was just a slip of the tongue, but I couldn't resist pointing it out.

Well, you know. They interpret the laws, and in essence, make new laws with broad interpretations. Not a fan of these lifelong appointments. It's really not good to have one party have control of the court for essentially a generation.

Would you feel the same if it was Clinton and she had 3 choices? and Garland was chosen.

The supreme court would be absolutely destroyed for decades.

Yes. I dont distinguish between which party has control. But generational control is too long.

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@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:

for the billionth time, and read this very very very closely please

Trump won based on this:

'we hate the democrats!'

he WON on that, that was his entire strategy.

Trump won on a message Make America Great Again. He said he would bring back jobs and cut taxes and that is what he did. Unemployment is the lowest it has been in many years. unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest it has ever been. His popularity among Blacks has risen from 11% to 22%. The promises he made to the country he kept. What have the Democrats done, zero, Called salary raises crumbs, and they want to repeal the tax cuts and take the crumbs back form the workers. Their main objective is to win in November to impeach Trump that is what the Democrats are campaigning on to get elected. Harassing people who work in his administration and their families has not gone unnoticed by the American people, abandoning The DACA folks has also not gone unnoticed either and yet you expect to take the House and the Senate. The Democrats will be lucky to hold on to what they have now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxWLQcOOck

we shall see.

you think those people in that protest this weekend are not motovated to vote against trump?

or the other countless times we had protests like that?

cry all you want about 'no message' this time it doesnt even matter.

The message is 'We Care..Do You?'

There were a number of Democratic politicians from the senate and congress also protesting. They were saying shoot the messenger (ICE) not us who sent the message. Congress created the laws that ICE enforces not ICE. This whole thing as I have stated before is a Red Herring when the opportunity arose in the last two weeks to change the laws the Republicans could not a agree and two proposals were defeated and the Democrats were no shows as usual, but they join protests to abolish ICE. There were more people who didn't protest and they also have a vote.

and that isnt going to matter for shit.

They also separated families before Trump, but that is also not going to matter.

the votes are going to be decimating for the GOP.

I mean seriously? how many of those people protesting you think even know that bit of information you share?

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@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:

for the billionth time, and read this very very very closely please

Trump won based on this:

'we hate the democrats!'

he WON on that, that was his entire strategy.

Trump won on a message Make America Great Again. He said he would bring back jobs and cut taxes and that is what he did. Unemployment is the lowest it has been in many years. unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest it has ever been. His popularity among Blacks has risen from 11% to 22%. The promises he made to the country he kept. What have the Democrats done, zero, Called salary raises crumbs, and they want to repeal the tax cuts and take the crumbs back form the workers. Their main objective is to win in November to impeach Trump that is what the Democrats are campaigning on to get elected. Harassing people who work in his administration and their families has not gone unnoticed by the American people, abandoning The DACA folks has also not gone unnoticed either and yet you expect to take the House and the Senate. The Democrats will be lucky to hold on to what they have now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxWLQcOOck

we shall see.

you think those people in that protest this weekend are not motovated to vote against trump?

or the other countless times we had protests like that?

cry all you want about 'no message' this time it doesnt even matter.

The message is 'We Care..Do You?'

There were a number of Democratic politicians from the senate and congress also protesting. They were saying shoot the messenger (ICE) not us who sent the message. Congress created the laws that ICE enforces not ICE. This whole thing as I have stated before is a Red Herring when the opportunity arose in the last two weeks to change the laws the Republicans could not a agree and two proposals were defeated and the Democrats were no shows as usual, but they join protests to abolish ICE. There were more people who didn't protest and they also have a vote.

and that isnt going to matter for shit.

They also separated families before Trump, but that is also not going to matter.

the votes are going to be decimating for the GOP.

I mean seriously? how many of those people protesting you think even know that bit of information you share?

There are a great number of Americans that watch FOX news and they will know what is going on in the country.

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@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:

we shall see.

you think those people in that protest this weekend are not motovated to vote against trump?

or the other countless times we had protests like that?

cry all you want about 'no message' this time it doesnt even matter.

The message is 'We Care..Do You?'

There were a number of Democratic politicians from the senate and congress also protesting. They were saying shoot the messenger (ICE) not us who sent the message. Congress created the laws that ICE enforces not ICE. This whole thing as I have stated before is a Red Herring when the opportunity arose in the last two weeks to change the laws the Republicans could not a agree and two proposals were defeated and the Democrats were no shows as usual, but they join protests to abolish ICE. There were more people who didn't protest and they also have a vote.

and that isnt going to matter for shit.

They also separated families before Trump, but that is also not going to matter.

the votes are going to be decimating for the GOP.

I mean seriously? how many of those people protesting you think even know that bit of information you share?

There are a great number of Americans that watch FOX news and they will know what is going on in the country.

let me try to explain how this (and the last) election cycle works.

People who watch Fox News are never in a BILLION years EVER going to flip voting. God himself could come down and command them to flip a vote and they would not do it.

This (like Trump winning) is 100000000000000000000000000000000000%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% about 'unlikely voters'.

Many liberals stayed home in 2016 because they thought the election was in the bag. Now they understand, now they are motivated.

The reason Trump won and why all the polls where wrong is because a very large amount of people who had not voted in a long time, voted.

its not got dick to do with Fox

now consider policy for a second

Democrats also separated families. Do you think these people yelling in the streets give a damn about that? or are the most interested in throwing out the people who appear to be proud of doing so?

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@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:

let me try to explain how this (and the last) election cycle works.

People who watch Fox News are never in a BILLION years EVER going to flip voting. God himself could come down and command them to flip a vote and they would not do it.

This (like Trump winning) is 100000000000000000000000000000000000%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% about 'unlikely voters'.

Many liberals stayed home in 2016 because they thought the election was in the bag. Now they understand, now they are motivated.

The reason Trump won and why all the polls where wrong is because a very large amount of people who had not voted in a long time, voted.

its not got dick to do with Fox

now consider policy for a second

Democrats also separated families. Do you think these people yelling in the streets give a damn about that? or are the most interested in throwing out the people who appear to be proud of doing so?

There are diehard republicans and democrats who will never flip. If satan came down and was the candidate of a party, they would vote for him. That's tribalism at its finest. I have yet to see ultra republicans or democrats be better at that.

Liberals didn't stay home in 2016. They had a divisive, polarizing, and unlikeable candidate in Hillary. She did not inspire voters to come out for her. Sanders supporters probably did not want to vote for her either. Had it been Barack Obama, he would have easily defeated Trump.

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@sonicare said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:

let me try to explain how this (and the last) election cycle works.

People who watch Fox News are never in a BILLION years EVER going to flip voting. God himself could come down and command them to flip a vote and they would not do it.

This (like Trump winning) is 100000000000000000000000000000000000%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% about 'unlikely voters'.

Many liberals stayed home in 2016 because they thought the election was in the bag. Now they understand, now they are motivated.

The reason Trump won and why all the polls where wrong is because a very large amount of people who had not voted in a long time, voted.

its not got dick to do with Fox

now consider policy for a second

Democrats also separated families. Do you think these people yelling in the streets give a damn about that? or are the most interested in throwing out the people who appear to be proud of doing so?

There are diehard republicans and democrats who will never flip....

doesnt change what I said specific to what you said.

you where claiming people will watch Fox News and adjust their vote.

I am saying that will never happen in a billion years REGARDLESS of if democrats do it to

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@tryit said:
@sonicare said:
@tryit said:
@JimB said:
@tryit said:

let me try to explain how this (and the last) election cycle works.

People who watch Fox News are never in a BILLION years EVER going to flip voting. God himself could come down and command them to flip a vote and they would not do it.

This (like Trump winning) is 100000000000000000000000000000000000%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% about 'unlikely voters'.

Many liberals stayed home in 2016 because they thought the election was in the bag. Now they understand, now they are motivated.

The reason Trump won and why all the polls where wrong is because a very large amount of people who had not voted in a long time, voted.

its not got dick to do with Fox

now consider policy for a second

Democrats also separated families. Do you think these people yelling in the streets give a damn about that? or are the most interested in throwing out the people who appear to be proud of doing so?

There are diehard republicans and democrats who will never flip....

doesnt change what I said specific to what you said.

you where claiming people will watch Fox News and adjust their vote.

I am saying that will never happen in a billion years REGARDLESS of if democrats do it to

That was another person.

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@sonicare said:
@tryit said:
@sonicare said:
@tryit said:

let me try to explain how this (and the last) election cycle works.

People who watch Fox News are never in a BILLION years EVER going to flip voting. God himself could come down and command them to flip a vote and they would not do it.

This (like Trump winning) is 100000000000000000000000000000000000%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% about 'unlikely voters'.

Many liberals stayed home in 2016 because they thought the election was in the bag. Now they understand, now they are motivated.

The reason Trump won and why all the polls where wrong is because a very large amount of people who had not voted in a long time, voted.

its not got dick to do with Fox

now consider policy for a second

Democrats also separated families. Do you think these people yelling in the streets give a damn about that? or are the most interested in throwing out the people who appear to be proud of doing so?

There are diehard republicans and democrats who will never flip....

doesnt change what I said specific to what you said.

you where claiming people will watch Fox News and adjust their vote.

I am saying that will never happen in a billion years REGARDLESS of if democrats do it to

That was another person.

ok!

my observation and specifically why I made it in the context of the conversation we were having still stands.

but yes of course there are democrats who will never change as well and to be honest, in some case that might be a good thing. Example, if the conversation is about a holocaust, is it good to be flexible? well depends on the position doesnt it?