The real reason why Hollywood and the 1% despise Donald Trump

I have read somewhere about this theory (will provide links as soon as I find them) that the hate towards Donald Trump usually comes from Beta Males. I promise I will provide the link to that article written by an expert - that is of course the left wing moderators do not ban me and give a chance at free speech which they may or might not agree with.

This actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. Donald Trump is a winner at life. He turned 1 Million dollars into Billions of dollars. Of course there is the argument that he was handed 1 Mil however I can assure you. 99% of all of you would have turned that 1 Million into Zero. The fact that he grew such wealth into 1 billion is something we must all respect him for.

Moving on, this is really the main reason as to why so many Hollywood males despite Donald Trump. He is a old man who is still getting all the beautiful ladies, more so than those 10/10s Hollywood actors. His current wife is extremely beautiful, so were his other wives when they were young. He has all these beautiful models who he can enjoy a night with whenever he pleases (which btw is all consensual) and he is also the most powerful man of the free world. When Donald Trump's current wife gets old, he can just get another one who looks even more beautiful. You cannot seriously tell me if God came down to earth and said: You don't need to live your life, you can have Donald's 100% of you will say yes. Please just have the decency to admit it.

Can we please have a civil discussion, can you at least understand the logic behind this argument?

When Donald Trump's current wife gets old, he can just get another one who looks even more beautiful.

.....good luck.

Let the market decide on that

Omfglol. Yeah, it's not because he's wholly unqualified and mentally unstable.

The issue being Trump is one of the 1% elite. His voters aren't too bright.

Didn't you vote for him?

Trump's had just as many failures as successes in life, and furthermore, much of his success has been predicated on stepping on the heads of others and doing all he could to get ahead at their expense. He's a spoiled bully, and he has been his entire life. He's been accused of rape three times with numerous other sexual assault allegations. He's filed for bankruptcy on numerous occasions. He's had lawsuits against him for discrimination and has tended towards bigoted views. He takes no responsibility for himself but lays blame everywhere else. You show me someone with none of that who works hard with integrity who shows respect who is such a success and I'll gladly accord them some. Trump's deserving of none of it because he gives no respect and treats everything like shit that doesn't serve his own interests. Anyone can get ahead in life if they're willing to cross any moral line to do so, and that is the driving characteristic that defines Donald Trump's life. Winning at all costs.

He has the absolute worst character on this planet aside those that belong in prison, and in all likelihood, it's only been his privilege and power that has kept him out of it. The man is scum, and anyone who takes longer than a few seconds to observe him that are decent people themselves can very easily can come to that conclusion.

This guy is funny as hell.

Stopped reading at "beta males". LMAO

Ah a Trump apologist. Maybe people realize he's unqualified for the job and isn't doing well at all.

I heard it's because the Film Actors Guild is plotting with North Korea and Trump is actually the secret leader of Team America after Spotswoode died. So of course they would hate Trump.

@trumptowerlr:

He sucks at business, he has a large record of screwing people over who do business with him, he doesn't know shit about politics, he doesn't learn from his mistakes, he sexually harasses women, his own current wife barely speaks English which makes you wonder how awkward dinner conversations are and not to mention the various scandals surrounding him like Trump University and the Russian investigation. There's literally nothing good about him.

And OP forget to talk about how Donald Trump companies filed for bankruptcy several times

Another bias fact from the Zaryia.

But don´t let facts skew your opinions right.

"Trump won whites with a college degree 49% to 45%"

Nonsense.

The only reason why the Hollywood elite hates trump is because so many in Hollywood is leaning left. And suffers from the same illness most on the left does that their opinion is the only ultimate right one.

And the right. Don't be so extremely biased. Tribalism is bad.

But I never stated just whites. I said voters. Your own link shows this:

In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980.

Don't let facts skew your..........facts. That should definitively end this "debate".

But here is further proof, on the chance you suddenly stopped trusting your original source, http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/

It's well known on record fact that Trump had more of the low education vote, according to all known voter data. Not really up for debate.

It is more fun to take it seriously and use it as an opportunity to bash Trump supporters than to simply call out the post as being bait and moving on without feeding the troll.

Not much different than the obvious troll threads about Christianity that are given serious replies because it gives the posters replying an outlet to bash religion before the thread is locked.

It probably has less to do with them actually leaning left, and more to do with them trying to cater to the large portion of their fanbase that leans left in order to avoid being boycotted out of future roles. Stacey Dash is one example of how fast fans will turn on you if you admit you are a Republican, and many other celebrities must have noticed.

Yes, the majority of the people in Hollywood probably aren't pretending and really do lean to the left for various reasons, but that doesn't mean every single celebrity that claims they are a liberal is actually a liberal.

It is a lot more nuanced than that with regards to Stacey Dash. She has said a lot of stupid stuff and got a FOX News speaking gig out of it, so obviously that will rile people up regardless of political leaning. People don't like celebrities being open with their political views and thinking they deserve a platform just because they are famous. Furthermore, there are plenty of celebrities that are Republicans and aren't hated by "the left", such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robert Downey Jr, and Clint Eastwood (bizarre RNC appearance notwithstanding).

As well as, liberal leaning celebrities are hated on as well, sometimes viciously so. Are we going to pretend like the harassment of Leslie Jones never happened? The victim complex the right has in America is so bewildering.

"illness."

You know you're talking to a fanatical when they refer to others as suffering from an "illness."

Anyways, this thread is bogus. The OP talks about Beta males and then wants us to take this thread seriously?

@Jacanuk:

Keep talking. You're only making yourself look like a fool.

Do you have data showing a majority of people on the left have a mental illness? And how are people on the right immune when they do the same thing you described?

Here's what I think, both people on the left and right are normal for the most part. Then you have SOME people on each spectrum who take it way too far (IE: regressive left, alt-right, climate deniers, gender deniers, etc.), that are very tribal and partisan (especially on the internet or media), and very much do appear mentally ill.

But to say most people on the left are mentally ill shows you are extremely and insufferably embroiled in party politics to a dangerous degree.

Again mods, can we ban this guy... he's just a troll.

I agree with this.

All major polling shows people (in the West) tend to lean more liberally on most issues. Like abortion, guns, gay/trans, weed, climate, net neutrality, etc. Could hurt their appeal by going too right.

I think this is also one of the reasons why right wing comedy fails so miserably. Not going to get far with anti-women/gay/weed etc. jokes.

That's actually not a very good opinion. If one wants to worry about roles and thinks their political ideas will cost them said roles.....they don't have to air them. Seems ridiculous to think they effect the population to that degree.

You're one of the most uninformed and culturally obtuse people on these forums. Calling liberal politics a mental disorder is a move right out of Ann Coulter's book.

Is Ann Coulter really someone you wish to continue emulating?

I agree that Stacey Dash has gone off the deep end with some of what she has said after she came out as a Republican. I unliked her Facebook page after almost every post that appeared on my wall from her was some right-wing story that you would mistake for posts on Hannity's Facebook page. While I respect every single person's right to support their candidates of choice, it gets annoying when people are trying to lecture me about who I should have voted for even if I agree with them. I felt that way when it was done with the direct approach, like with Dash's pro-Republican posts back then, and I felt that way today when it was done with the indirect approach, when both Supergirl and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. went into full resistance mode with their constant shots at the Trump Administration.

But Dash's more recent actions of being a token black GOP mouthpiece were not what I were talking about in the post you quoted. Almost immediately after she admitted that she was planning to vote for Mitt Romney in the 2012 election (after voting for President Obama in the 2008 election), she was scorned and insulted for her decision. Some of the things she was called for admitting that she wasn't going to vote for Obama from other black people were outright racist, to include being called a "house n*****" for voting Republican. When Fox News released her shortly after Trump took office, people went all out making fun of her, claiming that she was only there to be a black counterpoint to Obama and her services were no longer required now that we have a white president again that most of Hollywood already hates.

As for the other stars that are Republicans that aren't totally scorned, in some cases, they have enough clout or respect in Hollywood from how long they have been there to where they can still get roles, and they are usually far enough from the hardcore Republicans (minus Clint Eastwood) to still get some respect. That doesn't mean that they aren't hated on, Schwarzenegger got plenty of hate being a Republican governor, although it wasn't enough hate to prevent him from being elected twice. It didn't hurt that he stated Trump would be the first Republican presidential candidate he didn't vote for since becoming a citizen, and that Trump is probably way more despised now than President Bush ever was even after we invaded Iraq and his critics accused him of doing it to steal Iraq's oil.

As far as I know, Robert Downey, Jr. never outright came out as a Republican. From what I gathered from his previous statements, being in prison made him a little less liberal, but not totally in favor of the GOP. Not to mention he was in that celebrity PSA that came out last October encouraging people to vote, which had a few obvious knocks against Trump (despite not mentioning him by name) halfway through it. Someone with his star power could have easily stopped the PSA from going up if he didn't want people to think he supported Hillary Clinton based on the video, especially with him being on the thumbnail.

In terms of what happened to Leslie Jones, that was disgusting, but trolls are going to troll and hackers are going to hack. It is a fact of life that people will do whatever they can get away with, even if feelings are hurt or laws are broken in the process. Unfortunately, some of the trolls that came after her were probably doing it more as revenge for being part of the Ghostbusters remake, which in itself was totally destroyed by people that claimed the movie was only made to please SJWs and feminists, than for any political beliefs she had. Either way, it was unacceptable, especially with the racism that was involved, but that doesn't mean it is an action condoned by the right.

Whether we like it or not, celebrities can influence thousands, if not millions just by tweeting a picture. If celebrities had no power to influence the general public, we wouldn't see commercials with LeBron James driving a Kia K900 or Tina Fey using American Express.

If the previous three presidential elections tell us anything, it is that people that potentially lean to the left outnumber people that potentially lean to the right, if you disregard the fact that voter apathy was around 45% last year.

That has nothing to do with what I said nor what I was commenting about.

prove it

I'm talking about the part in bold, on what you said about the effect celebrities can have on the population. While many of us can look at them for nothing more than entertainment (the main reason many conservatives can still enjoy material from liberal celebrities and vice versa), millions of people are influenced by what their favorite celebrities say or do, whether it is a product endorsement, fashion, donating to a charity, or, in the case of the last few elections, endorsing a presidential candidate.

While some celebrities remain silent about political views, many will be open about being liberal because they think that is what their mostly younger fanbase wants to hear, and in many cases, they are right. Some of the ones that aren't liberal may pretend to be liberal rather than just keep their mouth shut in order to avoid being boycotted by some of the more hardcore liberal fans, because of the assumption of silence being agreement [with the Trump Administration]. Obviously, that doesn't affect all celebrities, many are famous or respected enough to where they can be silent and their reputation will keep them getting roles.

Yeah, I realize I may have worded my original reply to your post poorly.

If that were true Trump wouldn't be president.

@LJS9502_basic: President Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. So, it isn't impossible to consider that, aside from all of the things he did on his own that scared some potential voters away, the celebrities that went all in for Hillary Clinton while painting Trump as a racist, bigoted moron probably helped her get more votes than if they stayed neutral.

It wouldn't have surprised me if for every person that claimed that they voted for Trump to spite celebrities that told us to vote for Clinton, at least two or three voted for Clinton because their favorite stars told them to.

If nothing else, they may have helped reduce voter apathy last year by calling for people to vote, although probably not by much.

Try and read what i actually wrote.

I never said the liberal politics was anything , i clearly said that when someone loses the ability to weigh all sides and use common sense it has to be a mental illness. A condition that seems to strike hollywood actors and people in California.

You are aware there is a Democratic party that votes for their candidate without influence from Hollywood? The problem is not enough went to vote in states that mattered. Also voter suppression is a thing. You give Hollywood too much credit. There is very low voter turn out which is a shame....but most of those that do vote consider their own lives and not actors.

well.

"In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980."

ouch.

Low key I would marry any foreign girl so she can have a visa to America.

First you state that the left is suffering from a "mental illness" but go on to say that hollywood actors and people in California are "ill" as an excuse?

The people of California are diverse politically and ethnically. They have voted for Republicans and Democrats alike as shown in their governor races and even when California's electoral points went to Reagan.

Seriously lay off the far right propaganda. Your posts are nothing more than satire.

Ouch what? as you can see white´s with a college degree backed trump 49% so not sure what you are on about?

Not to mention that Trump won most of the wage brackets except the lowest 2. And who usually make the least.

Trump lost 1 state and that costed him the popular vote, remove California from the equation and Trump won the popular vote as well as the presidency.

It´s kinda funny that people seem to forget that.

try to spin it. the dummies voted for trump

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/

Lol, with that OP how is this shit not locked?

I know exactly what he's on about. Your own link, among other factual sources, shows Trump won vastly among the lower educated. Legitimizing my original comment.

You're the one who is confusing everyone:

He got owned, now he's moving the goal to "but only white voters." A very common tactic among people who subscribe to party politics.

Jacanuk seems to have trouble reading and following threads or he replies to posts without even reading or considering what the other person has posted. I'm not sure if it's intentional.

@zaryia: Cherry picking, goal post moving and generally ignoring factors and data that is inconvenient, smh.

You would have had a point, if he was talking about his support among the white demographic.

but he didnt, he said: "His voters aren't too bright.", which is to say, he was talking about the overall data, and not a specific demographic.

And what you seem to be ignoring is the fact that overall, the more educated did not vote for trump. Most people would have looked at the overall data, but you decided to cherrypick the data you found, ignoring the parts that are inconvenient to your argument. And now, you are trying to move the goalposts of this argument.

This is typical partisan hack behaviour, so please, for your own sake, stop.

Yes , Zaryia made a general statement condemning all who voted for Trump. That link clearly proves that is not correct.

Not only does Trump have the overall White college educated voters, he also have most of the higher wage brackets, where the lowest was in fact majority wise for Clinton. And again remind me who usually earns the least.

So the correct thing would be to say some or the statement if factually wrong, it´s not that hard. And especially Zaryia has a fondness for facts and links. So making a biased general statement like that is just poor.

Except you proved Zaryia's point. If you look at the overall data, you would have known this. But alas, you only cherry picked what was convenient for you.

And now you go with non-sequitoirs... as usual.

Regardless of how we may feel about California, they are still part of the United States and if we dump their 8.8 million votes for Hillary Clinton, then we also have to dump their 4.5 million votes for President Trump.

If California decided to secede from the United States and the Federal government didn't stop them, then we could start dismissing their votes.

But that's not going to happen, because the other 19 states that went to Hillary Clinton would not vote in favor of amending the Constitution so they could secede, since they know it would take their two Democratic senators, 38 Democratic representatives, and almost guaranteed 55 blue electoral votes with them, making it that much easier for Republicans to stay in power.