Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are Losers and Suckers

Again you keep dodging the question... we are going to ask again, who are these sources? Better yet, where is the actual evidence (not hearsay and he said she said)?

THIS JUST IN: Joe Biden says all veterans are losers... this was confirmed by 8 anonymous sources who will not be named. Also, there is no physical evidence of this happening but it happened nonetheless.

The reality is, Trump has treated veterans better than any president since Reagan. I suggest you actually learn what Trump has done for veterans because clearly you are not familar with the subject:

https://trumprack.com/blogs/news/what-has-trump-done-for-veterans#:~:text=Veterans%20For%20Trump%3A%20What%20Has%20Trump%20Done%20For,5%20Visit%20the%20gravesite%20of%20a%20Veteran.%20

@mighty-lu-bu: Other journalists have investigated this and they all come back with the same story. The sources are good. Also have you noticed not one military person that was in trump's orbit refuted this.

@LJS9502_basic: source is probably Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer or better yet Mitt Romney 😆

That is a flat out lie:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/atlantic-owner-is-biden-megadonor-close-to-storys-author-sixth-witness-trump-opponent-disputes-story

https://www.dailywire.com/news/10-witnesses-go-on-the-record-stating-atlantic-report-on-trump-denigrating-troops-is-a-lie-2

https://www.foxnews.com/media/atlantic-story-trump-dead-soldiers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8703505/VA-Secretary-joins-dozens-blasting-article-claimed-Trump-called-dead-soldiers-losers.html

@mighty-lu-bu: Fox News found corroboration. Your sources suck by the way. Opinion sites should never be used for facts.

I wouldn't agree that he used such words. If it's true, would like to know what he really means by saying this.

Other journalists saying the same thing is not a source. Understand what "source" means. It means the person who actually witnessed what is being alleged. One reporter saying they heard someone say they heard something, and another saying "mmhmm, mmhmm, i heard him say he heard it too" isn't corroborating evidence, it's third party. Admit it, you have no verified sources for any of it. You fell for another fake news smear campaign because you desperately wanted the information to be true.

Understand what investigated means. They all did their own research after the article came up. Unless you believe in vast conspiracy theories involving both sides of the political spectrum. Which is illogical to me.

I doubt any of the three of them are in trump's entourage which these comments clearly show to be the case. Also I don't see any of his military entourage coming to his aid which speaks volumes really.

Okay, then again, who is the source? Who is the individual who heard this, and said so to these reporters? Because the reporters themselves claiming they heard someone say they heard it, again, is not a source. Most intelligent people do not take baseless allegations seriously and just because someone works from a paper, doesn't instantly make them credible. Where's the proof anyone said anything? You're going by the word, and only the word, of reporters who don't have a whole hell of a lot of credibility to start out with.

You have no sources, no proof. It's another smear story published by the media.

The journalists on both sides have sources....which they call impeccable. Just because they don't tell you doesn't mean it's not real. You have heard some of his comment anyway since he said them live. You also ignored the rest of my comment.

No, one side has sources. Named sources that have been publicly named. The other side fabricated sources to run a smear story in an election year as they've done every election year for as long as I can remember. So unless you can NAME SOURCES to counter the named sources of those saying it's a lie, you got nothing but a wish.

But these are trusted and accurate journalists, even from FOX.

You're making up conspiracy theories now. And as I said....both sides of the political spectrum. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck.........it's a duck.

Without sources, running such a piece of information is a smear. There used to be a time where if you went to the media and made such outlandish claims, they'd ask for evidence, and if you failed to provide any, they'd laugh in your face before kicking you out on your ass. So unless you can name those sources you claim were verified, you have no argument, and if you have no argument, there is no discussion. You can continue to believe in your fairy tales and conspiracy theories that Trump said anything you'd like to imagine he said, but it means squat without any actual sources, or proof.

Not true at all. Not naming sources has been a thing since forever. Stop being dishonest

But you told me the sources have been confirmed and verified. So again, who are they? Or did you lie about that?

They have been verified by other journalists ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. Not sure why you can't understand that.

@eoten: I agree they have no standards anymore. Why cant they be transparent about the shit.

If I'm going to take this seriously I want to know who the source is and what the context was.

If you want to convince me just show me the sauce. Until that happens this is all lala land bullshit.

@LJS9502_basic: Yeah but why so secretive just let it out if its true. You gotta see this for what it is an accusation without proof, not even a damn name of whos saying it lol how can you take that seriously...

This isn't a new thing in journalism dude.

@mighty-lu-bu: Stop shilling for Trump. Could you provide a real source, that one is hot garbage.

Likely because Trump is extremely litigious.

Let's do an example:

Let's say you work at a waste disposal plant that handles toxic waste. One day you find out that a shipment went missing and it turns out the company you worked for has been dumping shit out in the river for a long time. Now, normally you'd be like "**** this, I'm going to the cops/media/etc" but your boss loves to sue the shit out of people, and he often wins or at best prolongs the lawsuit for so long he forces the other side to bankruptcy.

So you could let people know, but you and your family would be ruined, and it would not have the same impact because you'd just be another guy trying to smear this dude's "good name".

What to do....what to do.

Well, you could remain anonymous. Continue to work there, build evidence, and supply it to a non-partisan outlet like the media; after all, the media is often referred to as the "fourth estate". Ultimately enough evidence would be compiled that your boss and company would be held liable, and there is little to nothing he could do to retalliate against you.

This is why people are "secretive", or as I like to call it "Cautious".

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OK, back to the real world: here you have Trump, with a line of people he has sued that could stretch to the moon and back. He has an army of lawyers, not to mention the entire US government at his behest, and you're supposed to, what? Give out your name and expect everything to go well?

"Hi, my name is Jeezer, and I'd like to tell you [the media] that Trump did something terrible"

Well no shit he has done something terrible. Got evidence? Yes? How much? Oh, not enough? Well too bad, you're name is in the paper and now you're fired and you will soon owe Trump a few million dollars that you don't have.

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This is how whistleblowing works, because despite attempts at protection, it is simply not safe for whistleblowers, so these people need to protect themselves by remaining anonymous.

But let's simplify it: all things being equal, what is more likely: that all these reports are just a smear job fabricated by the media, or hundreds of veteran politicians, clerks, staff, cabinet members, and all manner of respected and experienced people are actually worried about the country they serve and want to do the right thing by alerting the public to it?

Likely the latter.

You have a few journalists say they heard someone say it. These are not sources. Also, they've said they heard someone say they heard it, none of them heard it themselves. This is not verifying anything, not even remotely. Nobody has been verified, and nothing has been confirmed.

This has been verified by multiple sources and is a fact. Why does it bother trump supporters anyway? He has said far worse.

No one is surprised by this.

I never called journalists sources.

trumpers be like

it's all lies! it's all lies!

Still no evidence.

And there never will be. But get ready for this sub section of the forums to get flooded with a lot more baseless accusations someone heard in the media and runs in here to post without any kind of evidence to back it up. And we'll be back to talking in circles, yet again.

Never understood why people are gullible and naive enough to believe Trump innocent.

You’d get the impression those ITT believe him to be of upstanding character. Is that what you Trumpettes believe and are basing your defense on? Just going to ignore his disrespectful comments towards previous veterans? His “winner/loser” philosophy he’s revolved his entire life around? His outright and unashamed contempt for so many? His continued attacks? What reason is there to believe he would NOT say such a thing given his past behavior and personality?

If Trump were actually a decent, respectful person I’d have a lot harder time swallowing this and would be on his side. As it stands, I believe he’s probably said MUCH worse things than what these accusations claim. But this whole “provide the sources, then I’ll believe” nonsense his defenders ITT are pushing is highly amusing. Don’t kid yourself guys, if the sources were identified, you’d immediately move on to character assassination and partisan bickering to pull them into disrepute so you could go on believing what you must to be able to sleep better at night. Nothing would convince you unless he were caught on tape, and then you’d go on jumping through hoops trying to justify some more “locker room talk”.

There’s no winning with you people when you need to lay in the bed you made and rationalize such a scumbag to assuage your moral compunctions in order to continue to stand behind the one who serves you politically. That’s an impossible nut to crack.

professional liars are all saying this story is made up.

we need to believe them.

Confirmed by Fox news, which is essentially state news.

Actually, hasn't been confirmed by anyone, and even the guy who published the paper has had to back track and say the official story that the flight was canceled due to weather was true, after he made the claim it was canceled because he thought dead soldiers were losers. Oops, y'all fell for fake news yet again.

I love how the left is like "oh we got him now!" and it always turns out to be a nothingburger- shows how smart they are.

This is just like Russian collusion which the Democrats made up.

It will certainly be interesting to see who was right and wrong in 10-20 years when people start talking and material is released.

I imagine it will be a little of both.

There is no material. The guy who wrote the article was on TV downplaying it all. It was bullshit, just like the claims Trump told voters to vote twice, or the claim he was calling hispanics animals and rapists, or the Russia collusion bullcrap. Why would you still get your news from sources that are not only wrong about so much, but know they are before they even publish most the stories that they do? Especially when they go the extra step to edit and cut videos to make them sound a lot worse.

Seems you don't facts. Therefore, it's foolish to engage in conversations with you.

As I said, we shall see.

I heard it from fox news.