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#51  Edited By Zaryia
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@Solaryellow said:

The left knows how to dish it out yet can never take it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Not a partisan issue. You're lying. You're trying to turn this into a partisan thing to vindicate your Dear Leader. It's not working, as the above links show. Like that time you guys said all scientists were "payed by the DNC" simply because their data refuted Trump on climate change. Being against Trump is not always political.

The president is held to a higher standard, he's the leader of the free world. He shouldn't be acting like a clown. People said worse things about Bush and Obama, yet they didn't become grade schoolers.

Please stop putting your party affiliation ahead of logic, most others of your kind are not doing that on this specific situation. At least not the internet troll variants.

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yeah bud we don't hold hannity to the same standards as the president. Is this really a hard concept to grasp?

Edit: You really shouldn't use "the left" as a term for people you disagree with. All it serves to do is make you look simple minded. If you are, carry on..

Hahaha....oh man thanks for the laugh. Tough day at work. Don't bother trying to talk sense. Trump is a cult leader and they drink his kool aid.

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#53 LJS9502_basic
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Yes, because he is the president.... how do you not understand this? We have a president of the United States of America throwing tantrums when people don't like him, I shouldn't have to say anymore, that alone should make you think long and hard about this guy.

At least you admit you are being a hypocrite.

I'll address whatshisface above: This is a left/right thing. The two love birds have said many things he (Trump) could take as disparaging so naturally he will respond in whatever fashion he deems necessary. The left is so used to politicians (Republicans) being takers rather than givers......in terms of not saying a thing when the media attacks.

No no it's not a left/right thing. It's an adult and decency thing and Trump is neither an adult nor decent. FYI many Republicans were also disgusted by his tweets proving once again only the cult finds an excuse for his deplorable behavior. Pathetic!

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#54  Edited By Solaryellow
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@zaryia said:
@Solaryellow said:

The left knows how to dish it out yet can never take it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Not a partisan issue. You're lying.

The president is held to a higher standard, he's the leader of the free world. He shouldn't be acting like a clown. People said worse things about Bush and Obama, yet they didn't become grade schoolers.

Please stop putting your party affiliation ahead of logic, most others of your kind are not doing that. At least not the internet troll variants.

All of you people are up in arms because you are used to politicians (Republicans mostly) acting like wimps when people make disparaging comments. The politicians you linked are your typical elected official(s) who won't say Boo and are uncomfortable when someone does speak their mind. They know one thing and that is how to be P.C.

Left wing hosts (Scarborough is a RINO) say what they want, cry foul when someone replies and you are there like a knight in shining armor to wipe away their sniffles. That's the M.O. these days.

Edit: Ask yourself if these P.C. politicians wouldn't love to lash out at the media for some of the comments made but you know why they don't.

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@Solaryellow said:
@zaryia said:
@Solaryellow said:

The left knows how to dish it out yet can never take it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

All of you people are up in arms because you are used to politicians (Republicans mostly) acting like wimps when people make disparaging comments. The politicians you linked are your typical elected official(s) who won't say Boo and are uncomfortable when someone does speak their mind. They know one thing and that is how to be P.C.

Left wing hosts (Scarborough is a RINO) say what they want, cry foul when someone replies and you are there like a knight in shining armor to wipe away their sniffles. That's the M.O. these days.

Nothing you stated refuted my links

This isn't a partisan issue.

The President should not behave like a 4th grader.

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#57  Edited By MirkoS77
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@JimB said:

A man with the guts to put these so called journalists in their place. They are not used to someone giving it back to them. I say good and give them tit for tat.

The left is quite content calling names yet is taken aback when someone responds in kind. The line is crossed when someone responds bluntly.

Are you guys fucking mental?

  • Trump puts up a fake Time magazine cover in his golf clubs
  • People call him out on the fact that this cover is total bullshit on "Morning Joe" and mocks Trump for it (rightly so).

Trump then throws one of his little tantrums and tweets disgusting frat-boy grade level attacks, demeaning the presidency in doing so because why.....he takes offense that people are calling him out FOR HIS OWN "FAKE NEWS"? Yes, Heaven forbid he must be held accountable to his own bullshit, how offensive, and then you two jump to his defense in partisan bickering saying he should be giving as good as he gets? This is the hilariously sad thing about all of this....you are so blinded by partisanship that you immediately jump to Trump's defense in being able to fight back without even realizing that hey.....maybe they are simply bringing back reality into focus for him.

I mean, for ****'s sake.

This is not to mention Trump should be far and above all this. Why should he be dragging the presidency, the citizens, and this nation down to this level to settle such superficial nonsense? It's like if he were piloting a commercial airliner and a passenger starts talking shit about him in the back. Instead of being a fucking professional in sucking it up because he holds a higher consideration for all others aboard and wishes to preserve the integrity and dignity of the airliner he represents, he instead starts doing barrel rolls and loopty loops to get back at that one person at the expense of many others and the airliner's reputation just to satiate his own vengeful, pathetic small man complex. Yes, hooray for Trump for attacking those that have the nerve to hold him accountable to the truth, and in doing so embarrasses the entire nation and all those in it.

Give me a break.

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@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Mika and his wife Joe were both repeatedly calling Trump mentally ill the other day. **** those clowns. Hope The Don continuously berates them.

You think the President should behave this way?

Why didn't Obama become a school yard goon, he had many insults thrown at him as well? People dished out racial insults all the time.

Why didn't Bush do this? People called him dumb every day.

It's absurd. You're only doing this because of partisan politics. Party over decency. He's the captain of your favorite sports team. Christ party politics has made people into absolute zombies.

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

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I think someone needs a time out in the corner and his juice carton taken away.

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@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Mika and his wife Joe were both repeatedly calling Trump mentally ill the other day. **** those clowns. Hope The Don continuously berates them.

You think the President should behave this way?

Why didn't Obama become a school yard goon, he had many insults thrown at him as well? People dished out racial insults all the time.

Why didn't Bush do this? People called him dumb every day.

It's absurd. You're only doing this because of partisan politics. Party over decency. He's the captain of your favorite sports team. Christ party politics has made people into absolute zombies.

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

Trump isn't owned by the right?

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Mika and his wife Joe were both repeatedly calling Trump mentally ill the other day. **** those clowns. Hope The Don continuously berates them.

You think the President should behave this way?

Why didn't Obama become a school yard goon, he had many insults thrown at him as well? People dished out racial insults all the time.

Why didn't Bush do this? People called him dumb every day.

It's absurd. You're only doing this because of partisan politics. Party over decency. He's the captain of your favorite sports team. Christ party politics has made people into absolute zombies.

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

Trump isn't owned by the right?

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Hell no he isn't

Look at all of the fuckhead RINO republicans who hate his guts like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan.

The guy is a multi-billionaire and was already one of the most powerful men in America before he ever even took office.

No one owns Trump

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@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:

You think the President should behave this way?

Why didn't Obama become a school yard goon, he had many insults thrown at him as well? People dished out racial insults all the time.

Why didn't Bush do this? People called him dumb every day.

It's absurd. You're only doing this because of partisan politics. Party over decency. He's the captain of your favorite sports team. Christ party politics has made people into absolute zombies.

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

Trump isn't owned by the right?

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Hell no he isn't

Look at all of the fuckhead RINO republicans who hate his guts like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan.

The guy is a multi-billionaire and was already one of the most powerful men in America before he ever even took office.

No one owns Trump

"No one owns Trump." Except the right... more accurately, the ALT-right (ala people like Steve Bannon).

Look, Trump is no "people's president". Especially when his approval ratings are low and he's blowing off protests like he's running Hong Kong.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

Trump isn't owned by the right?

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Hell no he isn't

Look at all of the fuckhead RINO republicans who hate his guts like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan.

The guy is a multi-billionaire and was already one of the most powerful men in America before he ever even took office.

No one owns Trump

"No one owns Trump." Except the right... more accurately, the ALT-right (ala people like Steve Bannon).

Look, Trump is no "people's president". Especially when his approval ratings are low and he's blowing off protests like he's running Hong Kong.

Who cares about the protests?

Let the liberals continue to stomp their feet like 3 year olds simply because they didn't get their way in November. It's comedy gold.

Remind me...aren't republicans supposed to be a bunch of racists? So where were all of those mass protests by conservatives when a black man was elected POTUS?

Where were the college campuses handing out hot cocoa and coloring books to 20+ year old students because they were "traumatized" by the election results?

What a bunch of whiny pussies.

Snowflakes to the extreme.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Mika and his wife Joe were both repeatedly calling Trump mentally ill the other day. **** those clowns. Hope The Don continuously berates them.

You think the President should behave this way?

Why didn't Obama become a school yard goon, he had many insults thrown at him as well? People dished out racial insults all the time.

Why didn't Bush do this? People called him dumb every day.

It's absurd. You're only doing this because of partisan politics. Party over decency. He's the captain of your favorite sports team. Christ party politics has made people into absolute zombies.

I don't give a rats asshole about the President putting on a fake smile and blowing smoke up my brown eye left and right. I care about results, not having some fucking nice guy running the country.

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

Trump isn't owned by the right?

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Yea, to believe this man holds no interests or they hold no sway over them is laughably naive and ignorant.

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@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:

Hell no he isn't

Look at all of the fuckhead RINO republicans who hate his guts like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan.

The guy is a multi-billionaire and was already one of the most powerful men in America before he ever even took office.

No one owns Trump

"No one owns Trump." Except the right... more accurately, the ALT-right (ala people like Steve Bannon).

Look, Trump is no "people's president". Especially when his approval ratings are low and he's blowing off protests like he's running Hong Kong.

Who cares about the protests?

Let the liberals continue to stomp their feet like 3 year olds simply because they didn't get their way in November. It's comedy gold.

Remind me...aren't republicans supposed to be a bunch of racists? So where were all of those mass protests by conservatives when a black man was elected POTUS?

Where were the college campuses handing out hot cocoa and coloring books to 20+ year old students because they were "traumatized" by the election results?

What a bunch of whiny pussies.

Snowflakes to the extreme.

Anyone who gives a damn about their people should keep protests in mind, especially for the likes of science and civil rights, all of which Trump is violating HUGELY. It's more than losing a damned election.

Because surely, Trumpservatives have NEVER been acting like "snowflakes" ever since he was elected. Surely, they never tried to get a popular liberal comedian fired for a damn joke about their two god-heroes. I'm sorry, but the right have lost that right to use the term snowflake when they've become the very thing they hate.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:

Hell no he isn't

Look at all of the fuckhead RINO republicans who hate his guts like John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan.

The guy is a multi-billionaire and was already one of the most powerful men in America before he ever even took office.

No one owns Trump

"No one owns Trump." Except the right... more accurately, the ALT-right (ala people like Steve Bannon).

Look, Trump is no "people's president". Especially when his approval ratings are low and he's blowing off protests like he's running Hong Kong.

Who cares about the protests?

Let the liberals continue to stomp their feet like 3 year olds simply because they didn't get their way in November. It's comedy gold.

Remind me...aren't republicans supposed to be a bunch of racists? So where were all of those mass protests by conservatives when a black man was elected POTUS?

Where were the college campuses handing out hot cocoa and coloring books to 20+ year old students because they were "traumatized" by the election results?

What a bunch of whiny pussies.

Snowflakes to the extreme.

Anyone who gives a damn about their people should keep protests in mind, especially for the likes of science and civil rights, all of which Trump is violating HUGELY. It's more than losing a damned election.

Because surely, Trumpservatives have NEVER been acting like "snowflakes" ever since he was elected. Surely, they never tried to get a popular liberal comedian fired for a damn joke about their two god-heroes. I'm sorry, but the right have lost that right to use the term snowflake when they've become the very thing they hate.

What the hell are you talking about?

Violating human rights and science?

Because he proposed a 4 month travel ban on hostile, war torn countries who hate our guts? You know that Obama initially came up with the proposed countries on that ban list, right?

He's terrible for pulling us out of the Parris Accord? Did you even read that fucking thing? It essentially amounted to the U.S. continuing to pour trillions of dollars into that ass backwards deal all in the hopes of greenhouse emissions maybe improving by a whopping .01% by the year 2040. If that isn't a colossal waste of resources, then I don't know what is.

And Trump just signed an executive order today to revive the National Space Council. Boy, he really hates science, huh?

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@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:

Who cares about the protests?

Let the liberals continue to stomp their feet like 3 year olds simply because they didn't get their way in November. It's comedy gold.

Remind me...aren't republicans supposed to be a bunch of racists? So where were all of those mass protests by conservatives when a black man was elected POTUS?

Where were the college campuses handing out hot cocoa and coloring books to 20+ year old students because they were "traumatized" by the election results?

What a bunch of whiny pussies.

Snowflakes to the extreme.

Anyone who gives a damn about their people should keep protests in mind, especially for the likes of science and civil rights, all of which Trump is violating HUGELY. It's more than losing a damned election.

Because surely, Trumpservatives have NEVER been acting like "snowflakes" ever since he was elected. Surely, they never tried to get a popular liberal comedian fired for a damn joke about their two god-heroes. I'm sorry, but the right have lost that right to use the term snowflake when they've become the very thing they hate.

What the hell are you talking about?

Violating human rights and science?

Because he imposed a 4 month travel ban on hostile, war torn countries who hate our guts? You know that Obama initially came up with the proposed countries on that ban list, right?

He's terrible for pulling us out of the Parris Accord? Did you even read that fucking thing? It essentially amounted to the U.S. continually pouring trillions of dollars into that ass backwards deal all in the hopes of greenhouse emissions maybe improving by a whopping .01% by the year 2040. If that isn't a colossal waste of resources, then I don't know what is.

And Trump just signed an executive order today to revive the National Space Council. Boy, he really hates science, huh?

But it never went through under the Obama Administration, now did it? Ball is in Trumps court now and he went through with it. He pays the price. Not to mention, they all avoid countries where the terrorists do all come from (such as Egypt) and pretty much give ISIS more power (which they confess). It even resulted in the wrongful arrests of American citizens (one of them the son of a legendary boxer).

The Paris Climate Accord, as expensive as it seems, would've done a bit to combat climate change. It would've been a step, but no, Trump just HAS to have his air polluting coal.

And who he is going to hire in the National Space Council? Another Scott Pruitt (a man who got repeatedly sued by the EPA for environmental violations and is NOW running it)?

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@frank_castle said:

Who cares about the protests?

Let the liberals continue to stomp their feet like 3 year olds simply because they didn't get their way in November. It's comedy gold.

Remind me...aren't republicans supposed to be a bunch of racists? So where were all of those mass protests by conservatives when a black man was elected POTUS?

Where were the college campuses handing out hot cocoa and coloring books to 20+ year old students because they were "traumatized" by the election results?

What a bunch of whiny pussies.

Snowflakes to the extreme.

Anyone who gives a damn about their people should keep protests in mind, especially for the likes of science and civil rights, all of which Trump is violating HUGELY. It's more than losing a damned election.

Because surely, Trumpservatives have NEVER been acting like "snowflakes" ever since he was elected. Surely, they never tried to get a popular liberal comedian fired for a damn joke about their two god-heroes. I'm sorry, but the right have lost that right to use the term snowflake when they've become the very thing they hate.

What the hell are you talking about?

Violating human rights and science?

Because he imposed a 4 month travel ban on hostile, war torn countries who hate our guts? You know that Obama initially came up with the proposed countries on that ban list, right?

He's terrible for pulling us out of the Parris Accord? Did you even read that fucking thing? It essentially amounted to the U.S. continually pouring trillions of dollars into that ass backwards deal all in the hopes of greenhouse emissions maybe improving by a whopping .01% by the year 2040. If that isn't a colossal waste of resources, then I don't know what is.

And Trump just signed an executive order today to revive the National Space Council. Boy, he really hates science, huh?

But it never went through under the Obama Administration, now did it? Ball is in Trumps court now and he went through with it. He pays the price. Not to mention, they all avoid countries where the terrorists do all come from (such as Egypt) and pretty much give ISIS more power (which they confess). It even resulted in the wrongful arrests of American citizens (one of them the son of a legendary boxer).

The Paris Climate Accord, as expensive as it seems, would've done a bit to combat climate change. It would've been a step, but no, Trump just HAS to have his air polluting coal.

And who he is going to hire in the National Space Council? Another Scott Pruitt (a man who got repeatedly sued by the EPA for environmental violations and is NOW running it)?

Who cares if it didn't go through?

He sure as hell strongly considered it, didn't he? Is Obama a human rights denying scumbag? Go check in the middle-east or North Korea if you want to see what REAL human rights violations look like.

And the Paris Accord wouldn't have done dick. Potentially improving gas emissions by 1/100th of a single percentage point over a 23 year span is considered productive? That's something we should invest TRILLIONS of dollars in despite being in the middle of a sizable national deficit? That's just goofy, especially when the other countries involved weren't pulling their own weight worth a damn.

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You notice how we all forgot about the Comey testimoney and all that stuff? I mean, it wasn't really heading anywhere, but boy....talk about misdire-HEY LOOK OVER THERE!

The sheer amount of bullshit Trump has done in the past month and we have all forgot about it because of a few dumb words.

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#70  Edited By Frank_Castle
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@mrbojangles25 said:

You notice how we all forgot about the Comey testimoney and all that stuff? I mean, it wasn't really heading anywhere, but boy....talk about misdire-HEY LOOK OVER THERE!

The sheer amount of bullshit Trump has done in the past month and we have all forgot about it because of a few dumb words.

Of course you guys forgot about it

You were expecting Trump to be bent over a barrel and if anything, the democrats fucked themselves. Now Loretta Lynch is in the middle of a full blown investigation.

All of these libs gathered at a bar on a Thursday morning instead of working...and they get straight up deflated lol. Quick, how many "liberal arts" degrees can you spot?

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@frank_castle said:

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

1. I'm not a lefty. Please stop this poisonous party politics bullshit. The Right gave Trump significant amount of shit yesterday.

2. This doesn't excuse the President from acting like a giant turd.

@frank_castle said:Quick, how many "liberal arts" degrees can you spot?

Please do not make unfounded insults against large groups of people. The truth ends up coming out, and sometimes it's not pretty:

http://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

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@frank_castle said:

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

1. I'm not a lefty. Please stop this poisonous party politics bullshit. The Right gave Trump significant amount of shit yesterday.

2. This doesn't excuse the President from acting like a giant turd.

@frank_castle said:Quick, how many "liberal arts" degrees can you spot?

Please do not make unfounded insults against large groups of people. Especially when they do not match with reality:

http://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

1. And I'm not some die-hard republican. **** both sides. Trump is as close to a 3rd party President as we're likely to ever see.

2. Once again, I could care less if Trump isn't some buttoned down, status quo politician. What, you guys thought Trump would change just because he took office? That everything he did on the campaign trail was just to get elected? That would just make him another run of the mill, dickbag politician, wouldn't it?

3. Yes, I will. The SJW snowflakes who oppose Trump so much, mostly because he got caught making a crude joke about women 12 years ago, tend to major in liberal arts, marine biology, lesbian expressionism, and tons of other shit that doesn't land you a steady job in the real world. Why do you think they have so much free time for protesting?

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@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

1. I'm not a lefty. Please stop this poisonous party politics bullshit. The Right gave Trump significant amount of shit yesterday.

2. This doesn't excuse the President from acting like a giant turd.

@frank_castle said:Quick, how many "liberal arts" degrees can you spot?

Please do not make unfounded insults against large groups of people. Especially when they do not match with reality:

http://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

1. And I'm not some die-hard republican. **** both sides. Trump is as close to a 3rd party President as we're likely to ever see.

2. Once again, I could care less if Trump isn't some buttoned down, status quo politician. What, you guys thought Trump would change just because he took office? That everything he did on the campaign trail was just to get elected? That would just make him another run of the mill, dickbag politician, wouldn't it?

3. Yes, I will. The SJW snowflakes who oppose Trump so much, mostly because he got caught making a crude joke about women 12 years ago, tend to major in liberal arts, marine biology, lesbian expressionism, and tons of other shit that doesn't land you a steady job in the real world. Why do you think they have so much free time for protesting?

1. Bullshit. You post gateway pundint, veritas, the pizza gate guy's theories, and other far far right loon websites and youtubes. You are super far right. You are Hannity level of nuts.

2. The leader of the free world should not act like a 9 year old. They have never done it before. There is no reason to start now. It does not appear as strong, polls show this is unfavorable to even Trumps voters.

3. You can insult those people, but understand on average Blue states/counties have a higher eduction, gdp, and income than red ones. Those are the facts. Do you have facts for your insults? But with a 36% approval rating, I doubt it's just these people not being fans of Trump. I doubt that 64% are mad at a "joke".

P.S. (The fact that you think Trump talking to Billy Bush was a "joke" rather than simply talking and telling him things he's actually done tells me either you have never been outside of your house, or you're in full cultist mode")

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@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:
@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Another thing that you lefties don't seem to understand...Trump isn't some staunch conservative. One of the biggest appeals of Trump is that he isn't owned by either the left or the right. Hillary on the other hand, is the very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician simply looking to further line her own pockets.

1. I'm not a lefty. Please stop this poisonous party politics bullshit. The Right gave Trump significant amount of shit yesterday.

2. This doesn't excuse the President from acting like a giant turd.

@frank_castle said:Quick, how many "liberal arts" degrees can you spot?

Please do not make unfounded insults against large groups of people. Especially when they do not match with reality:

http://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

1. And I'm not some die-hard republican. **** both sides. Trump is as close to a 3rd party President as we're likely to ever see.

2. Once again, I could care less if Trump isn't some buttoned down, status quo politician. What, you guys thought Trump would change just because he took office? That everything he did on the campaign trail was just to get elected? That would just make him another run of the mill, dickbag politician, wouldn't it?

3. Yes, I will. The SJW snowflakes who oppose Trump so much, mostly because he got caught making a crude joke about women 12 years ago, tend to major in liberal arts, marine biology, lesbian expressionism, and tons of other shit that doesn't land you a steady job in the real world. Why do you think they have so much free time for protesting?

1. Bullshit. You post gateway pundint, veritas, the pizza gate guy's theories, and other far far right loon websites and youtubes. You are super far right. You are Hannity level of nuts.

2. The leader of the free world should not act like a 5 year old.

3. You can insult those people, but understand on average Blue states/counties have a higher eduction, gdp, and income than red ones. Those are the facts. Do you have facts for your insults? But with a 36% approval rating, I doubt it's just these people not being fans of Trump.

Where are you getting a 36% approval rating? LOL

Now I think you're just trolling, fella.

Gallup currently has him at 40% as of yesterday and Rasmussen at 45% (the two most trusted presidential polls out there). USA Today has him at 42%.

He's likely never going to break 50%...and I couldn't care less. That's what happens when you have a polarizing leader in charge. If Trump builds the wall and gets tax reform done...then he can sit on his ass, coast for the next 3 years, and then say "I'm done with this, I'm 74 years old and I don't need the headache...I'm retiring to Mar-a-Lago for the rest of my days" and that would be just fine by me

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Where are you getting a 36% approval rating? LOL

Now I think you're just trolling, fella.

Gallup currently has him at 40% as of yesterday and Rasmussen at 45% (the two most trusted presidential polls out there). USA Today has him at 42%.

He's likely never going to break 50%...and I couldn't care less. That's what happens when you have a polarizing leader in charge. If Trump builds the wall and gets tax reform done...then he can sit on his ass, coast for the next 3 years, and then say "I'm done with this, I'm 74 years old and I don't need the headache...I'm retiring to Mar-a-Lago for the rest of my days" and that would be just fine by me

It was 36% last I checked, been a while though. Don't call me trolling for simply using 2 week old data by mistake, you use Pizza Gate and O'Keefe as citation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/solid-majority-americans-disapprove-of-trumps-job-performance-approval-ratings/

It's still hovering 36%-40% among several polls, which is pretty bad. You're not helping your case.

Rasmussen is a right wing shill poll, and never taken seriously outside of far right websites. It is in no way trusted. Do not lie.

For that 60%~ to be all liberals is unlikely.

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@zaryia said:
@frank_castle said:

Where are you getting a 36% approval rating? LOL

Now I think you're just trolling, fella.

Gallup currently has him at 40% as of yesterday and Rasmussen at 45% (the two most trusted presidential polls out there). USA Today has him at 42%.

He's likely never going to break 50%...and I couldn't care less. That's what happens when you have a polarizing leader in charge. If Trump builds the wall and gets tax reform done...then he can sit on his ass, coast for the next 3 years, and then say "I'm done with this, I'm 74 years old and I don't need the headache...I'm retiring to Mar-a-Lago for the rest of my days" and that would be just fine by me

It was 36% last I checked, been a while though. Don't call me trolling for simply using 2 week old data by mistake, you use Pizza Gate and O'Keefe as citation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/solid-majority-americans-disapprove-of-trumps-job-performance-approval-ratings/

It's still hovering 36%-40% among several polls, which is pretty bad. You're not helping your case.

Rasmussen is a right wing shill poll, and never taken seriously outside of far right websites. It is in no way trusted. Do not lie.

For that 60%~ to be all liberals is unlikely.

Show me where I once mentioned pizzagate?

Please, I'll wait...

And what can you refute in those O'Keefe CNN videos? Was that not CNN supervising producer John Bonifield calling the Trump/Russia story bullshit? Was that not Van Jones saying that Trump/Russia collusion was essentially a "big nothing burger"? Was that not CNN associate producer Jimmy Carr labeling American voters as "stupid as shit"? Were these guys just EXTREMELY good look-alikes?

Oh "Rasmussen" that most be russian! Right wing shill poll!!

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Show me where I once mentioned pizzagate?

Please, I'll wait...

And what can you refute in those O'Keefe CNN videos? Was that not CNN supervising producer John Bonifield calling the Trump/Russia story bullshit? Was that not Van Jones saying that Trump/Russia collusion was essentially a "big nothing burger"? Was that not CNN associate producer Jimmy Carr labeling American voters as "stupid as shit"? Were these guys just EXTREMELY good look-alikes?

Oh "Rasmussen" that most be russian! Right wing shill poll!!

1. Your fake news fake muslim protest troll thread. Pizza Gate guy himself, Mike Cernovich, started that lie and spread it. No need to wait, you don't research the original source of your very own citations.

2. O'Keefe's is a hoaxter. You made a troll thread using him as citation. His videos are all heavily edited quick cuts taken out of context:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/03/08/james-okeefe-pays-100000-to-acorn-employee-he-smeared-conservative-media-yawns/#7a67593d14bd

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/06/27/james-o-keefe-s-latest-attempt-expose-cnn-sad-attention-seeking-mess/217057

That second link factually shows how many times he was debunked. Hint: It's almost always. His videos are heavily edited and not usable as proper citation for any legitimate News source. This has been objectively confirmed on several occasions.

Just look at how hard your fake news darling got shat on when trying to take on real news,

O’Keefe’s “pointless” “To Catch A Journalist” series was roundly mocked by experts. In a video series titled “To Catch a Journalist,” O’Keefe attempted to show journalists engaging in questionable or biased journalistic practices. Instead, a range of highly respected reporters and journalism experts immediately mocked his heavily edited videos. Even the Project Veritas website noted that the first video in the series had drawn criticism from “the media elite” and “a Pulitzer Prize winning professor from Columbia’s Journalism School.” The Washington Post’s Erik Wemple dismissed the first video as a “gotcha attempt” and “fishing expedition” against Huffington Post reporter Sam Stein. Reporter Jack Schafer wrote for Reuters, “The only thing O’Keefe has accomplished with this ‘To Catch a Journalist’ expose is to prove that Stein is a conventional journalist,” adding that the video “ends up making Stein look normal and O’Keefe slightly tetched.” The Poynter Institute’s Steve Myers discredited the second video in the series, noting it was “heavily edited”and pointing out that the video, which was supposed to target The New York Times, did not feature any Times employees or journalists at all. The Atlantic Wire concluded that O’Keefe “burns his own straw man” in the video. A Forbes reporter declared the series “a dumb idea,” condemning “the lameness of O’Keefe’s results,” “the dubiousness of his method,” and “the pointlessness of the enterprise itself.” In a later, also failed attempt, O’Keefe was reportedly filmed and then dismissed by an unfazed Columbia University journalism professor, who said O’Keefe also couldn’t figure out how to use the door to exit the professor’s office, writing, “Turns out they were pulling the door instead of pushing it.” As Gawker summarized: James O'Keefe has been lurking in journalism school hallways across the country in pursuit of his latest bombshell series "To Catch a Journalist." So far, he's blown the lid off the story that some college professors like Barack Obama and that sometimes journalists drink alcohol and use bad words.

Offer the full unedited videos and we can talk, and have unbiased objective data. (Spoiler: You won't.) Until then, please do not talk to me about this. Frankly, it is insulting to anything with the IQ above a pencil.

3. Rasmussen is not Russian, I never stated this. But It IS known for being right leaning.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jun/19/donald-trump/donald-trump-tweet-50-approval-cherry-picks-pollin/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/09/17/rasmussen-the-gops-cure-for-the-common-poll/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/scott-rasmussen-no-longer-works-rasmussen-polls/311865/

Although I'll give you a pass on this, they have improved. But I surely wouldn't use just 1 poll source. Trump's approval is trash when looking at all the notable ones. This is a fact.

When you use O'Keefe and Cernovich as sources, you seem more nuttier than an Infowars fan. You make JimB seem legitimate. That's right, those two make Alex Jones seem credible. How do you want anyone here to take you seriously? This isn't Breitbart or Infowars, you can't just post anything from widely discredited laughing stock loon sources and not expect to get rekt.

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@doomdizzle said:
@Solaryellow said:
@JimB said:

A man with the guts to put these so called journalists in their place. They are not used to someone giving it back to them. I say good and give them tit for tat.

The left is quite content calling names yet is taken aback when someone responds in kind. The line is crossed when someone responds bluntly.

I'd say the line is when the president engages in such petty things. Their is a certain dignity that comes with the position that is being forgotten by you, others, and the president himself.

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

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@JimB said:
@doomdizzle said:
@Solaryellow said:
@JimB said:

A man with the guts to put these so called journalists in their place. They are not used to someone giving it back to them. I say good and give them tit for tat.

The left is quite content calling names yet is taken aback when someone responds in kind. The line is crossed when someone responds bluntly.

I'd say the line is when the president engages in such petty things. Their is a certain dignity that comes with the position that is being forgotten by you, others, and the president himself.

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

There is also a certain responsibility that comes with being president. One should be above the fray at all times. Nonetheless why feel sorry for Trump? He attacked the last president quite a bit only that president stayed above the fray. Making him more adult than dumb ass trump.

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@frank_castle: presidential nominee 2016 trump =/= actual president 2017 trump. He ran as a populist but is now a complete tool bag for the GOP. He has diverged from staunch conservatives on literally NO ISSUES except insisting that we should cradle putin's balls.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:
@doomdizzle said:
@Solaryellow said:

The left is quite content calling names yet is taken aback when someone responds in kind. The line is crossed when someone responds bluntly.

I'd say the line is when the president engages in such petty things. Their is a certain dignity that comes with the position that is being forgotten by you, others, and the president himself.

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

There is also a certain responsibility that comes with being president. One should be above the fray at all times. Nonetheless why feel sorry for Trump? He attacked the last president quite a bit only that president stayed above the fray. Making him more adult than dumb ass trump.

Obama didn't attack Trump openly he used the intelligence community to attack behind the scenes. Obama did not have the guts to take him on instead he broke the law to get at trump. The media still has top be held responsible no wonder most people don't believe anything the media has to say especially the alphabet media.

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What some of you youngsters do not know is how the media once was an effective tool used to keep the government on as much of a straight and narrow as possible while keeping citizens informed. Today it is personal and the MSM can easily be easily confused for a trash outlet like the Globe, National Inquire, etc.., Contrary to what the person a few posts above said ( I think he once even guaranteed PA to go for ole Hilldog) this is not about feeling sorry for Trump. The human condition dictates that we push back when attacked. The media does not get carte blanche to say whatever it wants. Maybe other politicians curl up and take it but this guy doesn't and he knows how to play the left.

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@JimB said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:
@doomdizzle said:
@Solaryellow said:

The left is quite content calling names yet is taken aback when someone responds in kind. The line is crossed when someone responds bluntly.

I'd say the line is when the president engages in such petty things. Their is a certain dignity that comes with the position that is being forgotten by you, others, and the president himself.

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

There is also a certain responsibility that comes with being president. One should be above the fray at all times. Nonetheless why feel sorry for Trump? He attacked the last president quite a bit only that president stayed above the fray. Making him more adult than dumb ass trump.

Obama didn't attack Trump openly he used the intelligence community to attack behind the scenes. Obama did not have the guts to take him on instead he broke the law to get at trump. The media still has top be held responsible no wonder most people don't believe anything the media has to say especially the alphabet media.

Are you sure... if i recall the president went on a certain talk show not to mention spoke openly a few times on the competency of Trump. So he did indeed attack Trump openly not to mention his stunt on the late night show backfired horribly for him.

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@Jacanuk said:
@JimB said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:
@doomdizzle said:

I'd say the line is when the president engages in such petty things. Their is a certain dignity that comes with the position that is being forgotten by you, others, and the president himself.

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

There is also a certain responsibility that comes with being president. One should be above the fray at all times. Nonetheless why feel sorry for Trump? He attacked the last president quite a bit only that president stayed above the fray. Making him more adult than dumb ass trump.

Obama didn't attack Trump openly he used the intelligence community to attack behind the scenes. Obama did not have the guts to take him on instead he broke the law to get at trump. The media still has top be held responsible no wonder most people don't believe anything the media has to say especially the alphabet media.

Are you sure... if i recall the president went on a certain talk show not to mention spoke openly a few times on the competency of Trump. So he did indeed attack Trump openly not to mention his stunt on the late night show backfired horribly for him.

Stating the fact that he had no experience in politics isn't exactly an attack.

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@Solaryellow said:

What some of you youngsters do not know is how the media once was an effective tool used to keep the government on as much of a straight and narrow as possible while keeping citizens informed. Today it is personal and the MSM can easily be easily confused for a trash outlet like the Globe, National Inquire, etc.., Contrary to what the person a few posts above said ( I think he once even guaranteed PA to go for ole Hilldog) this is not about feeling sorry for Trump. The human condition dictates that we push back when attacked. The media does not get carte blanche to say whatever it wants. Maybe other politicians curl up and take it but this guy doesn't and he knows how to play the left.

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

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@zaryia said:

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

The media attacked and contrary to belief certain presidents (cough cough Obama) pushed back but I understand why your feelings are hurt. It has everything to do with your hatred for Trump and like I said above, he knows how to play the left like a violin and you people fall for it each and every time.

The general consensus by a few of you is how hypocrisy is tolerated and promoted. Why you support it though it alarmingly clear.

Edit: Attacking one person is not necessarily justification for attacking another. Talk about not having an argument, you use childish tactics to justify actions.

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@Solaryellow said:
@zaryia said:

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

The media attacked and contrary to belief certain presidents (cough cough Obama) pushed back but I understand why your feelings are hurt. It has everything to do with your hatred for Trump and like I said above, he knows how to play the left like a violin and you people fall for it each and every time.

The general consensus by a few of you is how hypocrisy is tolerated and promoted. Why you support it though it alarmingly clear.

1. Obama did not use 9 year old insults against the Media. That is beneath the presidency. Stop lying. My feelings are not hurt, Trump is making a laughing stock out of his position. Now you're making childish insults too.

2. I'm not liberal. And it just isn't liberals attacking Trump on this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Stop Lying.

3. Why you lie is alarmingly clear. You're a far far right partisan. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are "liberal", even though in this instance a large number of trump voters and major conservatives also disagree with you. You have nothing. No facts. You're just giving me a garbage opinion, and will not refute any of what I just stated.

This kind of grade-school behavior is far and away beneath the presidency. But you already knew this, you're just trying to defend your "team".

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@zaryia said:
@Solaryellow said:
@zaryia said:

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

The media attacked and contrary to belief certain presidents (cough cough Obama) pushed back but I understand why your feelings are hurt. It has everything to do with your hatred for Trump and like I said above, he knows how to play the left like a violin and you people fall for it each and every time.

The general consensus by a few of you is how hypocrisy is tolerated and promoted. Why you support it though it alarmingly clear.

1. Obama did not use 9 year old insults against the Media. That is beneath the presidency. Stop lying. My feelings are not hurt, Trump is making a laughing stock out of his position. Now you're making childish insults too.

2. I'm not liberal. And it just isn't liberals attacking Trump on this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Stop Lying.

3. Why you lie is alarmingly clear. You're a far far right partisan. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are "liberal", even though in this instance a large number of trump voters and major conservatives also disagree with you. You have nothing. No facts. You're just giving me a garbage opinion, and will not refute any of what I just stated.

This kind of grade-school behavior is far and away beneath the presidency. But you already knew this, you're just trying to defend your "team".

The melt down continues.

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@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@Solaryellow said:
@zaryia said:

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

The media attacked and contrary to belief certain presidents (cough cough Obama) pushed back but I understand why your feelings are hurt. It has everything to do with your hatred for Trump and like I said above, he knows how to play the left like a violin and you people fall for it each and every time.

The general consensus by a few of you is how hypocrisy is tolerated and promoted. Why you support it though it alarmingly clear.

1. Obama did not use 9 year old insults against the Media. That is beneath the presidency. Stop lying. My feelings are not hurt, Trump is making a laughing stock out of his position. Now you're making childish insults too.

2. I'm not liberal. And it just isn't liberals attacking Trump on this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Stop Lying.

3. Why you lie is alarmingly clear. You're a far far right partisan. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are "liberal", even though in this instance a large number of trump voters and major conservatives also disagree with you. You have nothing. No facts. You're just giving me a garbage opinion, and will not refute any of what I just stated.

This kind of grade-school behavior is far and away beneath the presidency. But you already knew this, you're just trying to defend your "team".

The melt down continues.

Refuting someone with factual links is a meltdown now? No actual rebuttal, just say "meltdown".

This is what debate becomes when you watch enough Breitbart, Infowars, and Hannity. We can't be bothered with facts, it's "us" vs "them". Shit Politics.

Even Trump voters and top republicans know this issue is beyond politics, I guess the lesser zombies didn't get the memo.

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@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@Solaryellow said:
@zaryia said:

The media did this to Obama and Bush, but they did not act like a 9 year olds. What they are doing is NOTHING new.

You have no argument.

The media attacked and contrary to belief certain presidents (cough cough Obama) pushed back but I understand why your feelings are hurt. It has everything to do with your hatred for Trump and like I said above, he knows how to play the left like a violin and you people fall for it each and every time.

The general consensus by a few of you is how hypocrisy is tolerated and promoted. Why you support it though it alarmingly clear.

1. Obama did not use 9 year old insults against the Media. That is beneath the presidency. Stop lying. My feelings are not hurt, Trump is making a laughing stock out of his position. Now you're making childish insults too.

2. I'm not liberal. And it just isn't liberals attacking Trump on this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

Stop Lying.

3. Why you lie is alarmingly clear. You're a far far right partisan. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are "liberal", even though in this instance a large number of trump voters and major conservatives also disagree with you. You have nothing. No facts. You're just giving me a garbage opinion, and will not refute any of what I just stated.

This kind of grade-school behavior is far and away beneath the presidency. But you already knew this, you're just trying to defend your "team".

The melt down continues.

Refuting someone with factual links is a meltdown now? No actual rebuttal, just say "meltdown".

This is what debate becomes when you watch enough Breitbart, Infowars, and Hannity. We can't be bothered with facts, it's "us" vs "them". Shit Politics.

Even Trump voters and top republicans know this issue is beyond politics, I guess the lesser zombies didn't get the memo.

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

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@n64dd said:

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

1. That's a Fox News poll.....if anything it has a right leaning slant and is a good way to gauge Trump voter opinions. Can you refute it?

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cellphone interviews with 1,017 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 25-27, 2017. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voter

2. And all those top Republicans who disagreed with the tweet?

It is a solid fact that this isn't just a "liberal" thing. Show otherwise. It's a standards thing, for the position of President.

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@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

1. That's a Fox News poll.....if anything it has a right leaning slant and is a good way to gauge Trump voter opinions. Can you refute it?

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cellphone interviews with 1,017 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 25-27, 2017. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voter

2. And all those top Republicans who disagreed with the tweet?

It is a solid fact that this isn't just a "liberal" thing. Show otherwise. It's a standards thing, for the position of President.

LOL @ polls.

Cool story bruh.

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@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Refuting someone with factual links is a meltdown now? No actual rebuttal, just say "meltdown".

This is what debate becomes when you watch enough Breitbart, Infowars, and Hannity. We can't be bothered with facts, it's "us" vs "them". Shit Politics.

Even Trump voters and top republicans know this issue is beyond politics, I guess the lesser zombies didn't get the memo.

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

Not to mention the first link says nothing about the specifics of his tweets. I guess he is selectively ignoring the eight years under Obama and how the ex-president did attack a certain network, its viewers, commentators and reporters (James Rosen). The old saying is true: It isn't a lie if YOU believe it.

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@Solaryellow said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Refuting someone with factual links is a meltdown now? No actual rebuttal, just say "meltdown".

This is what debate becomes when you watch enough Breitbart, Infowars, and Hannity. We can't be bothered with facts, it's "us" vs "them". Shit Politics.

Even Trump voters and top republicans know this issue is beyond politics, I guess the lesser zombies didn't get the memo.

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

Not to mention the first link says nothing about the specifics of his tweets. I guess he is selectively ignoring the eight years under Obama and how the ex-president did attack a certain network, its viewers, commentators and reporters (James Rosen).

1. This thread is about pointed grade-school insults at a specific person (You know that though). When did Obama make childish personal insults/comments? Why are you lying? Can you link these? Why don't you give citation?

2. You're both ignoring the second link, and neither of you have refuted the poll. Even Trump voters think this tweeting is harmful. This is TOO easy. You guys suck at this.

Refute with links, please

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/lawmakers-react-trump-tweet-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-morning-joe/index.html

@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

You're posting polls which are always slanted. Learn nothing from the last election?

1. That's a Fox News poll.....if anything it has a right leaning slant and is a good way to gauge Trump voter opinions. Can you refute it?

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cellphone interviews with 1,017 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 25-27, 2017. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voter

2. And all those top Republicans who disagreed with the tweet?

It is a solid fact that this isn't just a "liberal" thing. Show otherwise. It's a standards thing, for the position of President.

LOL @ polls.

Cool story bruh.

Incredible fact based rebuttal, as expected from Hannity Light. Ignore the irrefutable evidence (Republicans condemning him) and then (without citation) say the poll is invalid. That also goes for @Solaryellow.

You're both done. Give up.

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@zaryia: I was just watching Shep's video and I couldn't believe that was Fox News...

As for Tucker...I don't know if people like him and Hannity believe the things that come out of his mouth...then again, Hannity did stop halfway through a speech to ask a random woman in the audience if she wanted to meet him in the back so yeah, I can see him believing his own speech.

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@horgen said:

And some people may still wonder why the US image around the world is not looking so favorable these days.

The US really doesn't care about it's image to countries that are literally imploding.

You don't care obviously... And which countries are literally imploding these days? I thought that would make headlines almost everywhere.

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@JimB said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:

There is a certain responsibility that come with journalism but the journalism have lost their honesty and integrity. They attack the president personally not his policies. Those attacks cannot be let to pass. When ther was no news they created news. The media has no respect for the office of the president and will go at any lengths to destroy this president and void an election.

There is also a certain responsibility that comes with being president. One should be above the fray at all times. Nonetheless why feel sorry for Trump? He attacked the last president quite a bit only that president stayed above the fray. Making him more adult than dumb ass trump.

Obama didn't attack Trump openly he used the intelligence community to attack behind the scenes. Obama did not have the guts to take him on instead he broke the law to get at trump. The media still has top be held responsible no wonder most people don't believe anything the media has to say especially the alphabet media.

Link? And not one of your crazy rightest sites.

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What some of you youngsters do not know is how the media once was an effective tool used to keep the government on as much of a straight and narrow as possible while keeping citizens informed. Today it is personal and the MSM can easily be easily confused for a trash outlet like the Globe, National Inquire, etc.., Contrary to what the person a few posts above said ( I think he once even guaranteed PA to go for ole Hilldog) this is not about feeling sorry for Trump. The human condition dictates that we push back when attacked. The media does not get carte blanche to say whatever it wants. Maybe other politicians curl up and take it but this guy doesn't and he knows how to play the left.

If we are capable of removing ourselves from partisanship for a moment, these tweets are worrisome in greater implication. To me they're pathetic and sad for anyone who has developed emotionally past their teens to early twenties, but it is what drives this behavior that is unsettling when viewed in the context of the responsibilities of the presidency. This temperament, this petty mindset, this vindictive nature, this vulnerability to be so easily set off and the insatiable need to strike back 10 times harder when affronted is an incredible liability for a person in a position of such power.

Do we honestly believe these personality traits are going to be constrained to the confines of the Internet when push comes to shove on a world stage or when a crisis arises? Will Trump be able to pull himself out of his ego and come to view others as being a higher priority than his own gratification? Something's not right with Trump's mind if he deems these moves prudent contrasted to the significance of the role he currently occupies, and the Goldwater rule isn't going to deny me what I can already easily discern from watching Trump myself.

This is borderline crazy behavior for a president, despite whether you believe he's justified in it, and the implications are frightening for someone holding this much power and influence.

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If only someone had told Trump that becoming POTUS would put him in the radar for all types of criticism and relentless attacks and that he would need to develop thick skin for the job and try to stay classy...if only he had checked Obama's tweeter every now and then he would have seen that there was this one guy (what was his name? He was buffoonish and had bad hair...) who kept coming up with these nonsensical conspiracy theories to attack the president with.