How can Sega Screw up Project Needlemouse?

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#101 chocolate1325
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I agree with you there.
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#102 macrules_640
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The KISS theory is something Sega tends to ignore a lot.

 

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#103 sonicphc
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Sorry about the amount of typos..TheRedTree

Try firefox. It'll catch those typos for you, and double the speed of your internet browser experience.

signed, your resident computer nerd

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#104 TheRedTree
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They were headed in the right direction with Sonic Unleashed. That is not to say that I would love to see the Werehog in every game from here on out (and if I remember the ending correctly, there is no possible way the Werehog can return. I could be wrong). The day levels were amazing- fast and fun and very reminiscent of Sonic of the early-to-mid 90s. With this new game, SEGA should take a long, hard look at what they did with Sonic 3 & Knuckles and just FOLLOW THAT FORMULA! The more you think about it, the more you realise that it SHOULD NOT BE THIS DIFFICULT to produce a two-dimensional Sonic game. I know, I know, I am beating a dead horse. I apologize.
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#105 SMario64
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1. Add an uneeded cast of idiots.                                                                                                                                      

2. Jason Griffith                                                                                                                                                               

3. Shadow/Silver The Hedgehog                                                                                                                                          

4. Any gimmick whatsoever                                                                                                                                                 

5. Anything that has nothing to do with the 90's.

I want stuff like: Super Sonic in all levels, Not just the last.

Miles to follow and help Sonic.

Knuckles to be a villian again, with Gangsta Music!

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#106 macrules_640
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Yeah that's what they need to do.

 

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#107 Rasenganfan2
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I'm still waiting for all the nooby, Sonic X loving tweeners to come in and complain about the game.

OMG Shadowz not in it. It will suk.

you just ply az sonic? that be boring.

whrz silver n elise. Sonic 06 was the best gm evr and criticz r biazed!

Ths gmae will suk.

Personally these fans need to drink some lead paint and retard themselves out of existence.

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Exactly! Seriously, there was a noob just like that on Vizzed(a forum I mod) a few days back. Let me quote what he (or she, we really don't know) said, on a thread about Needlemouse... Post #1 - " I have no idea why the Sonic games after SA2 were bombed by fans. I thought Sonic Heroes was awesome, I found Unleashed very hard but I thought it was cool, and above all, I thought Sonic '06 was the best 3D Sonic game. Why Sonic '06 was so hated is beyond me." Post #2 - " what do you mean awful graphics?! Sonic '06's Hi-def cutscene graphics were AMAZING quality, the same can be said for EVERY 3D Sonic game.'06 Also had one of the best, if not THE best storyline in the ENTIRE series. And people never gave Black Night a chance. A bunch of idiots said it was stupid to give Sonic a sword, and they've never even played the game. It's gameplay is GODLY, the best since games like Kid Chameleon. As for Heroes, it didn't have the best graphics outside of the hi-def cutscenes, but it was an early GameCube game. I thought it's storyline was pretty cool. And Shadow the Hedgehog is the best 3D Sonic game. Devil Doom is tough as nails, but that game is freaking awesome. The Sonic Riders games have no reason to be bombed, either. Those games are incredibly addicting, and they have awesome music. Having said all of that, Unleashed could have been better. The idea of a werewolf Sonic was a good one, but the execution failed. It was an alright game, though, but I found it real hard. I don't think the Sonic series has fallen at all. Every game from Sonic the Hedgehog to Black Night has been awesome, and I think the only reason it's hated by fans now is because SEGA always works with Nintendo, and everyone hates Nintendo nowadays. (for no given reason whatsoever)" Serious fanboy. Anyway, let me show you the picture one of my friends found... it's disturbingly true. http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/9319/831168-sonic_cycle_super.png PS: I would've linked it, but GS doesn't support BBCode, and I don't know HTML.
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#108 macrules_640
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Man those newer Sonic fans don't even know what they're talking about.

 

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#109 chocolate1325
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They don't and they try to defend the games.
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#110 macrules_640
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I know it always end in a flame war.

 

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#111 TheRedTree
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Okay, Sonic '06 was NOT the best 3D Sonic game ever (although, as I've mentioned before, I ended up liking it after looking past all its problems)- that distinction goes to Sonic Unleashed or Sonic Adventure 1. Furthermore, how dare you acknowledge Shadow the Hedgehog as a game. That piece of garbage is a farce and should have never been created. 

 

The Black Knight was bad and so was The Secret Rings. The Black Knight was horrible, not for the fact that he had the sword (I actually welcomed that idea as I like the whole Sonic fairy tale sagas), but because the gameplay was horrific. I was very excited for that game but was severely disappointed in it. I will say that I was happy to see Super Sonic (of sorts) back in the game. Now, The Secret Rings was bad because you could not control Sonic. It was an on-rails game and all you could do was move left or right, it got very annoying very fast. If they had made these two games in the same fashion as they made Unleashed, they would have been awesome. I hope that with the next installment in the fairy tale escapade, that they learn from their mistakes and produce a great game. They could also do that game in 2D.  

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#112 SMario64
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Miles to follow and HELP Sonic.

SMario64

 Okay, 'Tails' never helped Sonic. He just made us laugh at his constant failure. :twisted:

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#113 chocolate1325
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Okay, Sonic '06 was NOT the best 3D Sonic game ever (although, as I've mentioned before, I ended up liking it after looking past all its problems)- that distinction goes to Sonic Unleashed or Sonic Adventure 1. Furthermore, how dare you acknowledge Shadow the Hedgehog as a game. That piece of garbage is a farce and should have never been created. 

 

The Black Knight was bad and so was The Secret Rings. The Black Knight was horrible, not for the fact that he had the sword (I actually welcomed that idea as I like the whole Sonic fairy tale sagas), but because the gameplay was horrific. I was very excited for that game but was severely disappointed in it. I will say that I was happy to see Super Sonic (of sorts) back in the game. Now, The Secret Rings was bad because you could not control Sonic. It was an on-rails game and all you could do was move left or right, it got very annoying very fast. If they had made these two games in the same fashion as they made Unleashed, they would have been awesome. I hope that with the next installment in the fairy tale escapade, that they learn from their mistakes and produce a great game. They could also do that game in 2D.  

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I understand but some fans will defend most Sonic games because they think carrying guns was awesome and people tend to like games that have guns in them now. Thats why so many people defend Shadow the Hedgehog. Same with Sonic and the Black Knight.
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#114 kbaily
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I actually kinda liked Secret Rings. Once you got the hang of the controls, it wasn't so bad, not great but not terrible. It's one thing if they didn't like the controls but the stupid fans complain that it sucked because Sonic's friends weren't playable.
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#115 deactivated-5b7a4a209ddaf
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I can't believe you prefered next gen over Secret Rings. The game is a pretty good start from Sonic on the wii, next gen failed in every way (excluding the music, it is just brilliant)

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#116 macrules_640
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Sonic Next Gen was an epic fail because of the screwed up controls, long load times and just plain annoyance of the characters.

 

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Sonic Next Gen was an epic fail because of the screwed up controls, long load times and just plain annoyance of the characters.

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I will get a PS3 on some time, now I will save from the disaster (but I will try Sonic Unleashed, since it is totally different to the Wii version, and I heard it is pretty good)
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#118 macrules_640
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Yeah Unleashed was better, but not by much from some people.

 

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#119 deactivated-5b7a4a209ddaf
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Yeah Unleashed was better, but not by much from some people.

macrules_640

I can take the werehog to play the beatiful looking day stages (they look so great), it is funny GS actually give it a lower score than next gen. It will be a nightmare if my parents found that game cheap and give it to me as a present because they know about my love to Sonic games, and I'm short tempered, those glitches will make me kill somebofy

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#120 ChildOfGaming7
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[QUOTE="dalejrgamer"]Fall onto the dreaded SONIC CYCLE:
sega cycle
Hyper_Hedgehog

Huh... new version.

Anyway, I won't be fooled again! Honestly!

Though it might be Sonic's triumphant return. :P

I fell into that with Sonic and the Black Knight :cry:

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#121 macrules_640
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That image does speak the truth.

 

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[QUOTE="macrules_640"]

Yeah Unleashed was better, but not by much from some people.

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I can take the werehog to play the beatiful looking day stages (they look so great), it is funny GS actually give it a lower score than next gen. It will be a nightmare if my parents found that game cheap and give it to me as a present because they know about my love to Sonic games, and I'm short tempered, those glitches will make me kill somebofy

I do think the critics were a bit harsh with Unleashed on the 360/PS3. I mean how did that, a game with a lot of polish score lower than a game full of bugs and glitches? It doesn't make sense. I think GI's review giving a six seemed the most fair. The game had polish and played well but the werehog was slow, repetitive, and boring. Then again I don't know how game reviews work. It seems like if you want to get a perfect 10, you need to be a brown/gray shooter and be an overhyped sequel and then weeks later, when the hype dies down, everyone realizes the game wasn't that great (see GTAIV).

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[QUOTE="nunchuk28"][QUOTE="macrules_640"]

Yeah Unleashed was better, but not by much from some people.

kbaily

I can take the werehog to play the beatiful looking day stages (they look so great), it is funny GS actually give it a lower score than next gen. It will be a nightmare if my parents found that game cheap and give it to me as a present because they know about my love to Sonic games, and I'm short tempered, those glitches will make me kill somebofy

I do think the critics were a bit harsh with Unleashed on the 360/PS3. I mean how did that, a game with a lot of polish score lower than a game full of bugs and glitches? It doesn't make sense. I think GI's review giving a six seemed the most fair. The game had polish and played well but the werehog was slow, repetitive, and boring. Then again I don't know how game reviews work. It seems like if you want to get a perfect 10, you need to be a brown/gray shooter and be an overhyped sequel and then weeks later, when the hype dies down, everyone realizes the game wasn't that great (see GTAIV).

I think the same over San Andreas, the guys don't even move their mouths while talking! I like mostly games with franchises (only 1 M rated, Metal Gear Solid), but I'm always open to other experiences (except when the money is out of my reach :P). At the end, the Xbox 360 got a Metacritic score of 6.1 and the PS3 version a 5.9 (Gamespot gave them the lower score)

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#124 dalejrgamer
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Most of the reviews are utter unreliable.  IGN gave Need for Speed:  Shift a 9 even though the line between arcade and simulation is severely blurred (seriously...they reward you points for dirty driving?).

Remember Jeff Gerstmann?

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#125 macrules_640
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I remember Jeff he runs Gaintbomb now.

 

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#126 TAMKFan
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I don't really see them screwing up much with this game.
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#127 macrules_640
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Hopefully for once they'll listen to the fans.

 

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#128 dalejrgamer
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No, then they'll fall onto the SONIC CYCLE
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#129 chocolate1325
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I shall not be tricked I shall wait and see what it looks like and plays like. We must be careful not to be tricked.
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#130 macrules_640
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Yeah I'm going to get my hopes up to high for this game.

 

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#131 Dgalmun
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[QUOTE="nunchuk28"][QUOTE="macrules_640"]

Yeah Unleashed was better, but not by much from some people.

kbaily

I can take the werehog to play the beatiful looking day stages (they look so great), it is funny GS actually give it a lower score than next gen. It will be a nightmare if my parents found that game cheap and give it to me as a present because they know about my love to Sonic games, and I'm short tempered, those glitches will make me kill somebofy

I do think the critics were a bit harsh with Unleashed on the 360/PS3. I mean how did that, a game with a lot of polish score lower than a game full of bugs and glitches? It doesn't make sense. I think GI's review giving a six seemed the most fair. The game had polish and played well but the werehog was slow, repetitive, and boring. Then again I don't know how game reviews work. It seems like if you want to get a perfect 10, you need to be a brown/gray shooter and be an overhyped sequel and then weeks later, when the hype dies down, everyone realizes the game wasn't that great (see GTAIV).

It wasn't really meant for the xbox 360/PS3, it was more intended for the wii.

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#132 Hyrule4EVER
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This thing has the potential to become something worth being optimistic about, also.

Whoops. Hold that thought...

It's another collaborative effort from Nintendo and SEGA. I should've known...

EDIT: AND I see that Kbaily beat me to posting the pic in another thread. My punch got no juice?

-SpikyBlueHero-

As silly as it sounds, it might not even be a sonic game after all! the silhouette's head kinda looks like Pulseman! and the bouncing blue thing (in the trailer) is one of his special attacks!

of course, GAMEFREAK made Pulseman, not SEGA, so i'm just being sarcastic. So im just wondering, how long exactly do you think Sega has been working on this project?

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#133 macrules_640
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That definitely does not look like Sonic.

 

 

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#134 SMario64
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3d 16-bit Sonic, yes.

Anorexic Next-Gen look? No!!!

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#135 macrules_640
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Let's hope it isn't.
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#136 Cloud_765
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That does look like an old Sonic made new... but the way the spikes curve... I have a bad feeling. :P
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#137 macrules_640
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It could just be a prototype logo right now.
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#138 deactivated-59be76f5a5388
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It's just a reference to the old school games.

Probably, anyway...

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#139 macrules_640
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If they screw the logo up I'm so going to riot.