Game 6: Los Angeles Lakers beat Phoenix Suns 111-103. LA wins series 4-2.

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="M_1_A_M_I"] The suns held Portland to an average of 93 points a game and they held San Antonio to an average of 100 points a game. The Lakers held an offensively weak thunder to 94 (93.8 )points a game and a beat up jazz team to 102 points a game. Suns>Lakers 8)

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LMFAO, Lakers have the best defense in the NBA, LOL @ bragging about holding Portland without Roy to 93 points per game. The Suns had to double LaMarcus Aldridge, for Chists sake. Their defense is nowhere near LA's level.

you're being a homer (this is a sports term), the magic and celtics have had the best defense this entire post season, La's has been good but nowhere near the best.

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

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#53 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] LMFAO, Lakers have the best defense in the NBA, LOL @ bragging about holding Portland without Roy to 93 points per game. The Suns had to double LaMarcus Aldridge, for Chists sake. Their defense is nowhere near LA's level.-Halftime-

you're being a homer (this is a sports term), the magic and celtics have had the best defense this entire post season, La's has been good but nowhere near the best.

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] you're being a homer (this is a sports term), the magic and celtics have had the best defense this entire post season, La's has been good but nowhere near the best.

Microsoft1234

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW

And you don't understand why he hate the Suns.

Anyway like i said before, im going with Suns in 6-7 but i'm aware that Lakers are a hell of a team and they have the best player in the NBA in Odom :P (you know is Kobe) but i have faith in my team, nobody was counting with the Suns, it was all Mavs and Spurs, but here are the Suns playing great basketball (Offense and Deffense), the only thing i know for sure is that it's going to be a hell of a series and the winner will...fail hard against Magic.

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#55 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]I say Lakers. ASK_Story
I thought you hated Kobe.

I don't LIKE Kobe and what does that have to do with me picking the wiining team?
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Lakers I want the Suns to win but Lakers are a far more superior team.
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#57 vrizzle
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lakers in 6, and then they will meet up with the team who is playing the best ball in the series the magic and then the lakers will beat them in 7

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] you're being a homer (this is a sports term), the magic and celtics have had the best defense this entire post season, La's has been good but nowhere near the best.

Microsoft1234

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

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I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

Fisher was also stronger and bigger then Westbrook. :|

I expect Nash to run circles around him.

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#60 Solid_Link22
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[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOWbobcheeseball

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

Fisher was also stronger and bigger then Westbrook. :|

I expect Nash to run circles around him.

Westbrook is also the freak of nature that Nash isn't :|

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#61 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

Solid_Link22

I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

i think i just threw up, Derek fisher is the hugest liability on that team, and people said the same about westbrook, nash is going to have a great series but I think it comes down to the lakers being more talented than the suns players outside of amare and nash.
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[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

The Lakers are the best team in the playoffs defensively in field goal defense. Orlando and LA have the two best defenses in the NBA. This was never a debate about the Magic or Celtics though. This was always about how the Suns defense sucks, which it does, especially against teams with big guys like the Lakers. They also don't have a legitimate wing defender.

I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOW

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense.
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#63 Solid_Link22
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Its not that I am delusional its that I am basing all this on past experiences. Fisher actually gives Nash trouble on the defensive end (believe it or not). Nash cannot defend even if his life depended on it and that includes Fisher.

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[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOWbobcheeseball

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

Fisher was also stronger and bigger then Westbrook. :|

I expect Nash to run circles around him.

Oh, you mean how Deron Williams ran circles around Fish? It didn't happen. Fisher has played great defense in these playoffs except against Westbrook, who is a freak athletically. Nash is nowhere near the athleticism of Russell. Fish just got done playing great defense on the best PG in the NBA(Deron Williams) and he's always defended Nash well. Fisher's size and strength gives Nash problems. We shut them down this year, it'll happen again in this series.
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[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] I understand being a fan, but i dont understand complete disrespect to the suns, the defenseless suns in 06 and 07 destroyed your lakers coming back a 3-1 deficit in 06 and 4-1d your team in 07 when they honestly were embarssing defensively, they're a good defensive team now. And russell westbrook destroyed fisher, Nash will have his way too, I'm picking lakers in 6 to 7 games but the suns DO PLAY DEFENSE NOWFireEmblem74

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense.

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"][QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense.

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

you accuse me of listening to somebody on espn, and you stated earlier the lakers are the best defensively this postseason :lol: Nash isn't as athletic as westbrook, but he's going to have an easier time with Fisher then you think, he tore up george hill and tony parker (faster guards than fisher) and Williams injury in the first game looked worse than people realize. You're stating fisher plays well on nash in his career, yet fail to realize the whole reason the suns have lost the season series is because jason richardson played like absolute garbage, and what did i say that was incorrect? Fisher is a liability on defense-Fact, He can't get to the rim he shoots jumpshots, and the nash fisher matchup is in clear favor of the suns.
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#67 FireEmblem74
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

Fisher was also stronger and bigger then Westbrook. :|

I expect Nash to run circles around him.

Oh, you mean how Deron Williams ran circles around Fish? It didn't happen. Fisher has played great defense in these playoffs except against Westbrook, who is a freak athletically. Nash is nowhere near the athleticism of Russell. Fish just got done playing great defense on the best PG in the NBA(Deron Williams) and he's always defended Nash well. Fisher's size and strength gives Nash problems. We shut them down this year, it'll happen again in this series.

No you didn't you shut down jason richardson and alot of it was Jason richardson maybe having a mental block against the lakers (in the suns home games against la he missed wide open shots a bunch of times). Lakers are better sure, but you defending Fisher is funny. Every fan has a guy on their team they know is a liability (defensively he is).
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#68 Microsoft1234
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Its not that I am delusional its that I am basing all this on past experiences. Fisher actually gives Nash trouble on the defensive end (believe it or not). Nash cannot defend even if his life depended on it and that includes Fisher.

Solid_Link22

fisher didn't shut down nash, the lakers team defense does. Only time i can even remember Fisher shutting down a guy is probably during his utah year or before that. Team defense of the lakers hurt Nash not fisher.

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No way convincing Laker fans they are wrong, just let it go and let's talk about the Nash vs Fisher matchup on Tuesday after Game 1. Personally those who think Fisher has an advantage in the PG matchup against Nash are sadly mistaken and are just being homers, and DONT SLEEP ON DRAGIC! Lol Lakers are better than Suns, but don't sound like a 5th grader by saying Fisher has an advantage over Nash.
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Nash is WAY better than Fisher but Fisher gives Nash fits man. Nash cannot guard anyone. That is is an advantage on Fisher's part. Dude's just bigger than him. I have seen this for the past two years.

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[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"][QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

Nash hasn't had his way with Fisher in a long time. Fisher is stronger than him and can actually defend him. Fisher is a mismatch against Nash on offense because of his bigger size and strength.

-Halftime-

are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense.

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

Dude, stop being such a homer... this is quite ridiculous. Fisher is one of the worst, if not the worst, starting PGs in the league. Nash is one of the top 3, if not the best. Get over it.
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Lakers in 7, though I hope Nash and the Suns win

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No way convincing Laker fans they are wrong, just let it go and let's talk about the Nash vs Fisher matchup on Tuesday after Game 1. Personally those who think Fisher has an advantage in the PG matchup against Nash are sadly mistaken and are just being homers, and DONT SLEEP ON DRAGIC! Lol Lakers are better than Suns, but don't sound like a 5th grader by saying Fisher has an advantage over Nash.Mister__Awesome
I never said Fisher was better. I said Fisher could play him. And he can. He's done it well for the past two years. Nash isn't going to "eat him alive" like everyone is saying.
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"] are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense. Messiahbolical-

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

Dude, stop being such a homer... this is quite ridiculous. Fisher is one of the worst, if not the worst, starting PGs in the league. Nash is one of the top 3, if not the best. Get over it.

How am I being ridiculous? I said Fisher can guard him. He guards him quite well. He's done it well the past two years. He played good defense against Deron Williams. He can play good defense against Nash. I never said that Fisher was a better player, because he's not, but I've watched him play good defense against Nash the past two seasons since he returned to LA. I know what he can do. Nash isn't gonna explode for 20 assists a night just because Derek Fisher is guarding him, like everyone seems to think. Worst PG in the league? Laughable:lol:

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"] are you a laker fan? or just delusional? Fisher is a spot up shooter, and a huge liability on defense. Messiahbolical-

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

Dude, stop being such a homer... this is quite ridiculous. Fisher is one of the worst, if not the worst, starting PGs in the league. Nash is one of the top 3, if not the best. Get over it.

Lmao. You do realize they are talking about both sides of the ball here right? Nash is a joke on defense, please. Obviously Nash>Fisher on the offensive side of the ball, but Fisher is a WAY better defender than Nash. I didn't see any of them say Fisher is a top PG in the league, just that he gives Nash fits. Do you remember Bruce Bowen? He was no where near being the best at his position in the league but he played superb defense and he gave players fits all the time. This is what they are saying about Fisher, is that so hard to understand?
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

Bobbles

Dude, stop being such a homer... this is quite ridiculous. Fisher is one of the worst, if not the worst, starting PGs in the league. Nash is one of the top 3, if not the best. Get over it.

Lmao. You do realize they are talking about both sides of the ball here right? Nash is a joke on defense, please. Obviously Nash>Fisher on the offensive side of the ball, but Fisher is a WAY better defender than Nash. I didn't see any of them say Fisher is a top PG in the league, just that he gives Nash fits. Do you remember Bruce Bowen? He was no where near being the best at his position in the league but he played superb defense and he gave players fits all the time. This is what they are saying about Fisher, is that so hard to understand?

Finally, someone that understands what I'm trying to say and doesn't put words in my mouth. Thanks dude.

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[QUOTE="Mister__Awesome"]No way convincing Laker fans they are wrong, just let it go and let's talk about the Nash vs Fisher matchup on Tuesday after Game 1. Personally those who think Fisher has an advantage in the PG matchup against Nash are sadly mistaken and are just being homers, and DONT SLEEP ON DRAGIC! Lol Lakers are better than Suns, but don't sound like a 5th grader by saying Fisher has an advantage over Nash.-Halftime-
I never said Fisher was better. I said Fisher could play him. And he can. He's done it well for the past two years. Nash isn't going to "eat him alive" like everyone is saying.

Oh? Well in that aspect you are right, Fisher plays good defense and can, not stop, but slow down Nash to a measly 15 points 7 assist per game which is not enough if the Suns want to win the series, the X-Factor is Dragic off the bench.
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Artest and Nash are two of my fav players, cant wait for this series!

PG matchup = SUNS (Nash >> Fisher)

SG matchup = Lakers (Kobe >> Richardson)

SF matchup = TIE (Artest and Hill, this should be awesome, two of my all tiem fav defenders)

PF matchup = Lakers (Gasol >)

C matchup = Suns (Amare > Bynum)

That looks like a pretty good series coming up to me.

Im not a fan of either team aswell (lifetime pacers fan). So ill be watching this with no biased, Artest and Nash are two of my fav players, so dont really care who wins (though I alawys like to see an upset).

I think lakers are favorites and Id bet on them to win in 7, but dont count out the Suns!

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#79 M_1_A_M_I
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Mister__Awesome"]No way convincing Laker fans they are wrong, just let it go and let's talk about the Nash vs Fisher matchup on Tuesday after Game 1. Personally those who think Fisher has an advantage in the PG matchup against Nash are sadly mistaken and are just being homers, and DONT SLEEP ON DRAGIC! Lol Lakers are better than Suns, but don't sound like a 5th grader by saying Fisher has an advantage over Nash.Mister__Awesome
I never said Fisher was better. I said Fisher could play him. And he can. He's done it well for the past two years. Nash isn't going to "eat him alive" like everyone is saying.

Oh? Well in that aspect you are right, Fisher plays good defense and can, not stop, but slow down Nash to a measly 15 points 7 assist per game which is not enough if the Suns want to win the series, the X-Factor is Dragic off the bench.

No way the X factor is J Rich, when he scores 20 + the Suns are 29 - 4 ! He is shooting at 52 % from the three this postseason and he think he will have a great series. But about Dragic I think he will be huge off the bench, and don't forget about Barbosa.

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#80 -Halftime-
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Jason Richardson isn't gonna do **** this series with Kobe on him. He'll be the 8 PPG scorer he was against the Lakers in the regular season because he won't be getting wide open looks from Spurs defenders.
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#81 Solid_Link22
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]

Did you actually watch the last series or any of the Lakers VS Suns game this year or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of what some idiot on ESPN said? Watch the damn games.

Nash is a better matchup for Fisher than either D-Will or Westbrook. And he just had a damn good series defensivley against Deron Williams. Not to mention throughout his career and this year Fisher has always played well defensively against Nash, using his size and strength as an advantage.

Fast, athletically gifted PG's give Fish trouble(Westbrook, Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson). Sorry, but Nash is neither fast or athletic, and Fisher is great at defending the pick and roll that Nash likes to run so much.

Bobbles

Dude, stop being such a homer... this is quite ridiculous. Fisher is one of the worst, if not the worst, starting PGs in the league. Nash is one of the top 3, if not the best. Get over it.

Lmao. You do realize they are talking about both sides of the ball here right? Nash is a joke on defense, please. Obviously Nash>Fisher on the offensive side of the ball, but Fisher is a WAY better defender than Nash. I didn't see any of them say Fisher is a top PG in the league, just that he gives Nash fits. Do you remember Bruce Bowen? He was no where near being the best at his position in the league but he played superb defense and he gave players fits all the time. This is what they are saying about Fisher, is that so hard to understand?

Thank you. Finally someone understands what we are trying to say. At least you wont call me a homer and a delusional lakers fan.

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#82 M_1_A_M_I
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Jason Richardson isn't gonna do **** this series with Kobe on him. He'll be the 8 PPG scorer he was against the Lakers in the regular season because he won't be getting wide open looks from Spurs defenders.-Halftime-
This may just be my opnion but I highly doubt that with the way J Rich has been playing, I think they're better off putting Ron on J Rich for a good part of the series.
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#83 xliang
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#84 Madmangamer364
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It's hard not to pick the Lakers as the winner of this series, but I do wonder what the mindset of the team will be this series. Going from the series against the Jazz, you would expect LA to be totally focused, and if that's the case, I would say this series goes no further than 5 game. However, the Lakers can sometimes deviate from the expected formula, so I'm not as confident in saying that this will be a short series, even though LA's large lineup should overwhelm the Suns in this series, much like it did with Utah.

Also, given that Phoenix just exercised one of their demons by beating, nay, sweeping San Antonio, I expect the Suns' confidence and momentum to be high enough to give LA a run and possibly steal a game or two. In the end, I'll say Lakers in six tough games.

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#85 Sonwhy
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Are you kidding me? Is there really any point in asking? Its the Lakers.

You got Koby, Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Odom, and fisher is decent. I just wonder who else the Lakers are thinking that they need in order to make the NBA that much more lop sided so they can win a championship?

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#86 Lostboy1224
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Isn't Bynum saying his knee is messed up, so won't he be unavailable against the Suns for the first game or two? Oh, and i had a feeling coming back to this thread a few days later it would be the Kobe/Lakers fan vs someone in here trying to debate who is going to do what. Oh good times. I just hope no suspensions, dirty play, and just have the better team win. Lakers are the better team but the better teams don't always win do they.
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#87 shaggyaz
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suns in 7

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#88 -Halftime-
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Isn't Bynum saying his knee is messed up, so won't he be unavailable against the Suns for the first game or two? Oh, and i had a feeling coming back to this thread a few days later it would be the Kobe/Lakers fan vs someone in here trying to debate who is going to do what. Oh good times. I just hope no suspensions, dirty play, and just have the better team win. Lakers are the better team but the better teams don't always win do they.Lostboy1224
Bynum is playing. He's fine.
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#89 LBxRAIDER
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Lakers are way to big for the suns. Too physical, Lakers take it in 5
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#90 misteranderson8
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I think this will be a much better series than most people think. If Bynum can play through the pain, expect Amare to have nothing. Nash will tear us apart, but its going to be tough to guard all those big 3 pt shooters (dudley, frye, richardson).

We just have to distrupt them as much as possible and I think that we can do that with Lamar and Gasol

I am afraid for when the Suns go to their bench and unleash the Dragon. Our bench is no where near as good talent wise as the Suns', but ours is more playoff experienced and veteran so hopefully we can keep it together, limit their bench scoring and get our first team back in.

Also a bit worried cause Kobe hasn't practiced much and had his knee drained. I've learned many times though to never doubt the Black Mamba

Lakers in 5

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Suns in seven

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#92 LBxRAIDER
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Couple more minutes till we see the Lakers take the 1st game.
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#93 Solid_Link22
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I expect chubby Dudley to "flop" on Kobe's finger during these 48 minutes.

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#94 andyboiii
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Kobe is lighting them up already! :D
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#95 -Halftime-
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The Suns "great" defense has allowed 62 points and 61 percent shooting so far:lol:
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#96 andyboiii
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Hills ankles :lol: poor guy has to guard kobe
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#97 -Halftime-
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[QUOTE="andyboiii"]Hills ankles :lol: poor guy has to guard kobe

Remember how Nash was supposed to "destroy" Fisher? How has that worked so far. Fisher's done well on him, just like he did during the season and just like I said.
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#98 Linkpheroth911
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^ to be fair I was reading through the comments and Solid_Link22 brought up the whole Fisher thing before you did.

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#99 andyboiii
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The Suns "great" defense has allowed 62 points and 61 percent shooting so far:lol:-Halftime-
silly suns fans lol
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#100 AHUGECAT
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Yawn. Another Lakers Finals... I mean why have the Finals when the Lakers are always there? This is getting boring. I mean out of 60 Finals haven't the Lakers been in like 28-32?