Game 6: Los Angeles Lakers beat Phoenix Suns 111-103. LA wins series 4-2.

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#251 ASK_Story
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Besides, the zone really didn't kill the Lakers last night. Lakers still scored insanely high and they had a one point lead going into the 4th. It's those darn threes that killed the Lakers and lack of effort in stopping the Suns as well.

Kobe said last night they're defense was the reason they lost. Not the Suns defense but the Lakers. Like he said, "We sucked at defense."

The zone is overrated, IMO. Suns bench just went crazy on a fluke night. That's all.

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#252 AHUGECAT
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Besides, the zone really didn't kill the Lakers last night. Lakers still scored insanely high and they had a one point lead going into the 4th. It's those darn threes that killed the Lakers and lack of effort in stopping the Suns as well.

Kobe said last night they're defense was the reason they lost. Not the Suns defense but the Lakers. Like he said, "We sucked at defense."

The zone is overrated, IMO. Suns bench just went crazy on a fluke night. That's all.

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Alvin Gentry is one of the reasons - he's far superior to Dantoni.

Zone helps because the Lakers have 3 7-footers (or 6'11''s not sure) and it helps counter this advantage for the Lakers. Not to mention Nash and Stoudemire are also poor man-to-man defenders so the Zone helps them as well. Basically, it allows Kobe to go for 35+ points and such, but Gasol, Odom and Bynum are rendered almost useless. The zone defense also held Bryant in the last quarter well enough to not let him take the game away from the Suns. The question is will Phil Jackson make adjustments? He should've after Game 3 but didn't. If the Suns can make the Zone defense more bullet proof this series could get VERY interesting...

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#253 feryl06
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With the series going best of 3 and being played in LA, I think the Lakers will win it. Suns are not a good road team to begin with and Lakers will go back to good defense.

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#254 Chutebox
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Question for Lakers fans.. if you where a coach on the Lakers.. what would you try to do to play better against the Zone? Since the suns have gone to the zone the lakers have settled for so many jumpshots and 3 pointers (thus not getting to the line as much as the suns).

How would you tell your team to attack the zone? This is a very interesting series to me, as the lakers dominated first two games and then since suns went to the zone they have been doing alot better. Suns made the first adjustment... can the lakers make the next one?

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For starters they could try and penetrate the damn zone with drives. All they seem to be doing is passing the ball around the arc, ass to Gasol/Bynum, they take a shot or pass it to the outside guys again who miss the three.

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#255 monkeytoes61
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I don't care about basketball or the NBA. But watching the Suns tie this up makes me so happy, now all the cocky Laker fans will be quiet.kozzy1234

Not quite sure what that is supposed to prove. I would be celebrating too .

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#256 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Meh, over in 6.MoonMarvel
:lol: Fiirst you say over in 5, now 6 and if LA loses again you will say meh over in 7. Accept facts, the Suns have a chance to get to 7 and are not rolling over.

Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series.
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#257 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Meh, over in 6.X360PS3AMD05
:lol: Fiirst you say over in 5, now 6 and if LA loses again you will say meh over in 7. Accept facts, the Suns have a chance to get to 7 and are not rolling over.

Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series.

:lol: If the refs were so horrible, why not show some video evidence of it? The Lakers getting into foul trouble is their own fault, all they do on defense when Amare gets the ball is hack at him... and Amare is one of the best in the game at drawing the foul, so they're stupid for hacking him. Especially when he's such a good free throw shooter. BTW us Suns fans ALWAYS had video evidence(not to mention legal evidence/ref admitting to screwing them... see: Tim Donaghy) to back up their claims when the Suns were screwed out of the playoffs multiple years against the Spurs... so where are all these Lakers' fans video evidence of the refs fixing the game for the Suns? I haven't seen ANY so far.
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#258 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Meh, over in 6.X360PS3AMD05
:lol: Fiirst you say over in 5, now 6 and if LA loses again you will say meh over in 7. Accept facts, the Suns have a chance to get to 7 and are not rolling over.

Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series.

:lol: :lol: :lol: This is why some Laker fans annoy me, when the team loses it cant be because they got outplayed, must be some evil plot by stern. Don't make excuses, the Suns just plain outplayed LA and earned these 2 wins.
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#259 Mister__Awesome
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]:lol: Fiirst you say over in 5, now 6 and if LA loses again you will say meh over in 7. Accept facts, the Suns have a chance to get to 7 and are not rolling over.MoonMarvel
Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series.

:lol: :lol: :lol: This is why some Laker fans annoy me, when the team loses it cant be because they got outplayed, must be some evil plot by stern. Don't make excuses, the Suns just plain outplayed LA and earned these 2 wins.

Laker fans, give credit where credit is due. It is okay to lose. The Suns aren't a pushover team they manhandled the Spurs so they're legit.
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#260 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"] Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series. Mister__Awesome
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is why some Laker fans annoy me, when the team loses it cant be because they got outplayed, must be some evil plot by stern. Don't make excuses, the Suns just plain outplayed LA and earned these 2 wins.

Laker fans, give credit where credit is due. It is okay to lose. The Suns aren't a pushover team they manhandled the Spurs so they're legit.

Sometimes I think I am the only Laker fan on here who actually backs this.

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]:lol: Fiirst you say over in 5, now 6 and if LA loses again you will say meh over in 7. Accept facts, the Suns have a chance to get to 7 and are not rolling over.Messiahbolical-
Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series.

:lol: If the refs were so horrible, why not show some video evidence of it? The Lakers getting into foul trouble is their own fault, all they do on defense when Amare gets the ball is hack at him... and Amare is one of the best in the game at drawing the foul, so they're stupid for hacking him. Especially when he's such a good free throw shooter. BTW us Suns fans ALWAYS had video evidence(not to mention legal evidence/ref admitting to screwing them... see: Tim Donaghy) to back up their claims when the Suns were screwed out of the playoffs multiple years against the Spurs... so where are all these Lakers' fans video evidence of the refs fixing the game for the Suns? I haven't seen ANY so far.

Screwed? You guys got your asses whooped every year by the Spurs.... That's not luck or getting "screwed" that's the Spurs being the better basketball team every year until this year. The league didn't take any postseason series away from the Suns. I hate that excuse every Suns fan makes.... The league isn't fixed. As for the Lakers, we fouled too much, like Kobe said, we can score on the zone, we shot 50 percent, we just flat out didn't bring it defensively and that has to change and I'm confident it will going back to the city of angels
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#262 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"] Suns have never won anything, they had the refs in their pockets because Stern wanted to milk a little more out of the series. Mister__Awesome
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is why some Laker fans annoy me, when the team loses it cant be because they got outplayed, must be some evil plot by stern. Don't make excuses, the Suns just plain outplayed LA and earned these 2 wins.

Laker fans, give credit where credit is due. It is okay to lose. The Suns aren't a pushover team they manhandled the Spurs so they're legit.

Lucky to run into the old geezer Spurs to get this far, i saw that play where Fishers hand just waved across Nash and he just falls to the floor like a little girl "ahhh my nose" pffft
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#264 Put_in_Kitna
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[QUOTE="Mister__Awesome"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]:lol: :lol: :lol: This is why some Laker fans annoy me, when the team loses it cant be because they got outplayed, must be some evil plot by stern. Don't make excuses, the Suns just plain outplayed LA and earned these 2 wins. X360PS3AMD05
Laker fans, give credit where credit is due. It is okay to lose. The Suns aren't a pushover team they manhandled the Spurs so they're legit.

Lucky to run into the old geezer Spurs to get this far, i saw that play where Fishers hand just waved across Nash and he just falls to the floor like a little girl "ahhh my nose" pffft

Steve Nash is not a wuss. :lol:

Horry>Nash.

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#265 LTomlinson21
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I know the Suns play an up-tempo offense and score more than most teams, but the Lakers' defense is just plain bad right now.
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#266 kozzy1234
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LOL @ all the Nash hate, Nash is the man. Most basketball players would leave after taking some of the shots hes taken

Even Kobe gotta laugh at the Nash hate

I think Gasol and Kobe go off tonight and get the W, then next game its up to the suns to force a game 7

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#267 Messiahbolical-
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Time for the Suns to win in L.A. tonight so we can close out the series at home. :)
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#268 monkeytoes61
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This is why Laker fans annoy me. When they win, everything is fine and dandy. But if they lose, it HAS to be the refs. They can never admit they were simply outplayed.
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#269 X360PS3AMD05
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I remember in 02 against the Kings, it was obvious the refs were trying to stretch out that series.
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#270 MoonMarvel
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This is why Laker fans annoy me. When they win, everything is fine and dandy. But if they lose, it HAS to be the refs. They can never admit they were simply outplayed.monkeytoes61
HEY! Dont clump me in with those types, not all of us do that.
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#271 monkeytoes61
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]This is why most Laker fans annoy me. When they win, everything is fine and dandy. But if they lose, it HAS to be the refs. They can never admit they were simply outplayed.MoonMarvel
HEY! Dont clump me in with those types, not all of us do that.

Ok, ok, fixed
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#272 Master_Live
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This is why Laker fans annoy me. When they win, everything is fine and dandy. But if they lose, it HAS to be the refs. They can never admit they were simply outplayed.monkeytoes61
This.
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#273 andyboiii
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gotta love that shot by Kobe off the glass :)
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#274 monkeytoes61
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Now I'm sure the refs aren't messing this one up. After all, the Lakers are ahead :roll:
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#275 -Halftime-
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Good defense, but we should be up by more than 8. We commited some silly fouls and shot some dumb shots after we got that 17 point lead and let them come back a little bit. But we have the pace where we want it and we're holding their bench down and making them commit turnovers so I'm encouraged.
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#276 andyboiii
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you can go back and look at all my posts in the losses to the Suns.

I never did blame the refs and I know they outplayed us those games

Lakers are kicking *** tonight though and Suns have no one to blame but themselves

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#277 ASK_Story
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Good defense, but we should be up by more than 8. We commited some silly fouls and shot some dumb shots after we got that 17 point lead and let them come back a little bit. But we have the pace where we want it and we're holding their bench down and making them commit turnovers so I'm encouraged.-Halftime-
Yo Halftime, I know you're a die hard Lakers fan (I am too) but what's up with the "we, we, we" bro! LOL! Are you on the bench or do you get Odom candy before the game or something? :P
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#278 -Halftime-
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Good defense, but we should be up by more than 8. We commited some silly fouls and shot some dumb shots after we got that 17 point lead and let them come back a little bit. But we have the pace where we want it and we're holding their bench down and making them commit turnovers so I'm encouraged.ASK_Story
Yo Halftime, I know you're a die hard Lakers fan (I am too) but what's up with the "we, we, we" bro! LOL! Are you on the bench or do you get Odom candy before the game or something? :P

It's just something I always do:P
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#279 ASK_Story
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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]Good defense, but we should be up by more than 8. We commited some silly fouls and shot some dumb shots after we got that 17 point lead and let them come back a little bit. But we have the pace where we want it and we're holding their bench down and making them commit turnovers so I'm encouraged.-Halftime-
Yo Halftime, I know you're a die hard Lakers fan (I am too) but what's up with the "we, we, we" bro! LOL! Are you on the bench or do you get Odom candy before the game or something? :P

It's just something I always do:P

Yeah. It is easier than writing "the Lakers" every time we argue here! ;)
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#280 Chutebox
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Another night of NBA, another night of **** officiating...

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#281 ASK_Story
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Sasha Vujacic is getting under Dragic's skin and messing up his game! :lol: I think they're a good match-up! All part of Phil's plan!
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#282 AHUGECAT
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Sasha Vujacic is getting under Dragic's skin and messing up his game! :lol: I think they're a good match-up! All part of Phil's plan!ASK_Story

I am glad Phil made some adjustments. Good game so far. Finally some D is being played in the series (game probably won't hit 105+ points..)

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#283 NoobisMaxcimus
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3point game fellas.

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#284 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Sasha Vujacic is getting under Dragic's skin and messing up his game! :lol: I think they're a good match-up! All part of Phil's plan!AHUGECAT

I am glad Phil made some adjustments. Good game so far. Finally some D is being played in the series (game probably won't hit 105+ points..)

Spoke too soon about the 105 points lol. Still, good game.

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this one's gonna be tight....

Artest :lol:

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#286 X360PS3AMD05
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Now I'm sure the refs aren't messing this one up. After all, the Lakers are ahead :roll:monkeytoes61
But it's cool to blame the Refs for the Seahawks Super Bowl?
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#287 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Now I'm sure the refs aren't messing this one up. After all, the Lakers are ahead :roll:X360PS3AMD05
But it's cool to blame the Refs for the Seahawks Super Bowl?

Don't even bring that SB up please. I still get nightmares over the Darrell Jackson call, LOL.

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#288 NoobisMaxcimus
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Lol Artest.

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#289 AHUGECAT
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Ron Artest just F'd up lol. Let's see if the Suns screw this up.

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#290 AHUGECAT
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JASON RICHARDSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#291 NoobisMaxcimus
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HOLY **** J RICH!

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#292 AHUGECAT
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Let's see Kobe go to work!

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#293 NoobisMaxcimus
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Now watch Kobe hit a buzzer beater haha.

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#294 sixringz1
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lets see what Kobe's got here. great game

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#295 BaraChat
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"A number of mystifying shots taken by Ron Artest in thies series" -Kevin Harlan

Indeed.

The Suns are proving they can play in LA. If the Lakers take that game, which I think they will, they will not want to face the Suns in a Game 7.

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#296 AHUGECAT
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Ron artest!!!

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#297 NoobisMaxcimus
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lol Artest redeemed himself.

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#298 BaraChat
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Wow. 2 offensive boards in a row...

Not a good idea Lakers...

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#299 sixringz1
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wow. robert horry all overa again. that will end it for phx. they won't recover from that

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#300 NoobisMaxcimus
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Ron artest!!!

AHUGECAT

We just had the same post 4 times in a row haha.