Greatest QB's ever

Since some people are talking about it, who are the best QBs ever in order from 1 to 10 for you. All time. Remain respectful, this is all opinions.

1. Joe Montana

2. Peyton Manning

3. John Elway

4. Steve Young

5. Dan Marino

6. Tom Brady

7. Brett Favre

8. Warren Moon (I dont care, I thought he was amazing in his prime)

9. Kurt Warner

10. Bart Starr (104.8 QB rating the playoffs)

So am i the only one who thinks Drew Brees is better then Tom Brady? Blitz_Nemesis

Drew Brees is definietly overlooked, but to say hes better than Brady is a stretch. Brady has 3 rings, brews 0 (although that could change within two weeks). obviously Brees was better than brady this season, but Brady was coming back from knee surgery.

give Brady credit his stats aren't as high as manning or brews in some seasons, but many times his best receiver was caldwell...when he got a pro bowl recever in moss he threw 50 tds in one season.

that being said I'd put Montana as #1 with Brady #2, Elway #3, Favre #4, Manning #5, Warner#6, Marino #7 and Brees #8 (but could move up with a ring).

1. Joe Montana

2. John Elway

3. Tom Brady

4. Brett Favre

5. Peyton Manning

6. Troy Aikman

7. Terry Bradshaw

8. Warren Moon

9. Johnny Unitas

10. Steve Young

These are my choices for best QB's:

1. John Elway
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. Dan Marino
5. Bart Starr
6. Tom Brady
7. Troy Aikman
8. Brett Favre
9. Terry Bradshaw
10. Johnny Unitas

Can't believe I'm the first to put Staubach on their list. Roger>>Troy.Bobbles

I would've had him at #11 or 12 on my list, he was at the tailend of his career when I got to watch him play, great big game QB.

I'll go with...

1. Young
2. Manning
3. Montana
4. Graham
5. Unitas
6. Marino
7. Bradshaw
8. Warner
9. Brady
10. Favre

1. Montana 2. Unitas 3. Elway 4. Manning 5. Marino 6. Staubach 7. Young 8. Favre 9. Starr 10. Young

I'm only picking one player per decade not exaclty the best player to have played in the decade(I know there's some overlap). I'm just spreading the wealth.

Pre 70s

1. Unitas
2. Starr
3. Graham

70s

1. Staubach
2. Tarkenton
3. Bradshaw

80s

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Marino

90s

1. Farve
2. Young
3. Aikman

after

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. McNabb

Top 3 honorable mentions

1. Jim Kelly
2. Warren Moon
3. Kurt Warner

I believe I win the thread!

I'll go with...

1. Young
2. Manning
3. Montana
4. Graham
5. Unitas
6. Marino
7. Bradshaw
8. Warner
9. Brady
10. Favre

Oleg_Huzwog

I'm only picking one player per decade not exaclty the best player to have played in the decade(I know there's some overlap). I'm just spreading the wealth.

Pre 70s

1. Unitas
2. Starr
3. Graham

70s

1. Staubach
2. Tarkenton
3. Bradshaw

80s

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Marino

90s

1. Farve
2. Young
3. Aikman

after

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. McNabb

Top 3 honorable mentions

1. Jim Kelly
2. Warren Moon
3. Kurt Warner

I believe I win the thread!

Nike_Air

No Elway?monkeytoes61

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]No Elway?Oleg_Huzwog

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]No Elway?Bobbles

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I'm only picking one player per decade not exaclty the best player to have played in the decade(I know there's some overlap). I'm just spreading the wealth.

Pre 70s

1. Unitas
2. Starr
3. Graham

70s

1. Staubach
2. Tarkenton
3. Bradshaw

80s

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Marino

90s

1. Farve
2. Young
3. Aikman

after

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. McNabb

Top 3 honorable mentions

1. Jim Kelly
2. Warren Moon
3. Kurt Warner

I believe I win the thread!

LoseEagles1245

Agreed 100%. I'd put Drew Brees ahead of McNabb as well.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]No Elway?Bobbles

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

Those career records are simply due to longevity. Only twice in his career was he in the league's top 3 for passing yards in a season. Only once was he in the top 3 for touchdowns.

Bradshaw played in a different era. You can't compare 70's QB numbers to a QB who played in the 80's and 90's when passing exploded in the NFL. That's just silly.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Oleg_Huzwog

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

Bradshaw played in a different era. You can't compare 70's QB numbers to a QB who played in the 80's and 90's when passing exploded in the NFL. That's just silly.

That's not true at all. Passing never "exploded" in the NFL.

That's not true at all. Passing never "exploded" in the NFL.

TaCoDuDe

It most certainly did.

Here are the all time leaders in passing yards per game. With the exception of Dan Fouts and Joe Namath, you have to go all the way down to around number 50 to find a guy who didn't begin his career in 79/80 or after. The game dramatically changed in the early 80's. Look up the name Don Coryell and you'll find out why.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Oleg_Huzwog

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

Those career records are simply due to longevity. Only twice in his career was he in the league's top 3 for passing yards in a season. Only once was he in the top 3 for touchdowns.

Bradshaw played in a different era. You can't compare 70's QB numbers to a QB who played in the 80's and 90's when passing exploded in the NFL. That's just silly.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Oleg_Huzwog

Only QB to take a team to five SB's. Currently has the most 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives of any QB. Carried the Denver Broncos on his back to three SB's in the 80's. Here's a statistics for you: he had the most wins by a QB in the history of the NFL when he retired, he's 3rd in passing yards, and 5th in passing TDs. Montana is below him in each of those. So, I'm not sure what's "unimpressive" about those stats.

Terry Bradshaw is on your list and his statistics are crap. Significantly worse than Elway's. The dude threw for 20+ INTs 5 different times in his career.

Those career records are simply due to longevity. Only twice in his career was he in the league's top 3 for passing yards in a season. Only once was he in the top 3 for touchdowns.

Bradshaw played in a different era. You can't compare 70's QB numbers to a QB who played in the 80's and 90's when passing exploded in the NFL. That's just silly.

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]That's not true at all. Passing never "exploded" in the NFL.

Oleg_Huzwog

It most certainly did.

Here are the all time leaders in passing yards per game. With the exception of Dan Fouts and Joe Namath, you have to go all the way down to around number 50 to find a guy who didn't begin his career in 79/80 or after. The game dramatically changed in the early 80's. Look up the name Don Coryell and you'll find out why.

I posted in the Peyton Manning thread on this page dispelling the offense/passing explosion myth in the NFL. You can check it out if you'd like. I'll just summarize:

Scoring averages have remained the same for 60 years. The average number of pass TD's in a game has remained largely the same, and in fact has actually decreased slightly. Teams today only average 3 more passing attempts per game than they did in 1980. True, there has been a steady increase in pass attempts, but nothing that would constitute an "explosion". It's quite possible to compare QB's from different eras.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]That's not true at all. Passing never "exploded" in the NFL.

TaCoDuDe

It most certainly did.

Here are the all time leaders in passing yards per game. With the exception of Dan Fouts and Joe Namath, you have to go all the way down to around number 50 to find a guy who didn't begin his career in 79/80 or after. The game dramatically changed in the early 80's. Look up the name Don Coryell and you'll find out why.

I posted in the Peyton Manning thread on this page dispelling the offense/passing explosion myth in the NFL. You can check it out if you'd like. I'll just summarize:

Scoring averages have remained the same for 60 years. The average number of pass TD's in a game has remained largely the same, and in fact has actually decreased slightly. Teams today only average 3 more passing attempts per game than they did in 1980. True, there has been a steady increase in pass attempts, but nothing that would constitute an "explosion". It's quite possible to compare QB's from different eras.

You have a point with passing yards. However, considering that other statistics such as TD's and attempts are fairly static, it's still possible to compare QB's from different eras.

You have a point with passing yards. However, considering that other statistics such as TD's and attempts are fairly static, it's still possible to compare QB's from different eras.

TaCoDuDe

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

You have a point with passing yards. However, considering that other statistics such as TD's and attempts are fairly static, it's still possible to compare QB's from different eras.

Bobbles

Hm, I didn't consider that. I might check and see how much of difference the extra games make.

1. Joe Montana

2. John Elway

3. Tom Brady

4. Brett Favre

5. Peyton Manning

6. Troy Aikman

7. Terry Bradshaw

8. Warren Moon

9. Johnny Unitas

10. Steve Young

heysharpshooter

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I'm only picking one player per decade not exaclty the best player to have played in the decade(I know there's some overlap). I'm just spreading the wealth.

Pre 70s

1. Unitas
2. Starr
3. Graham

70s

1. Staubach
2. Tarkenton
3. Bradshaw

80s

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Marino

90s

1. Farve
2. Young
3. Aikman

after

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. McNabb

Top 3 honorable mentions

1. Jim Kelly
2. Warren Moon
3. Kurt Warner

I believe I win the thread!

SaintBlaze

Agreed 100%. I'd put Drew Brees ahead of McNabb as well.

If I was drafting a QB , I'd go with McNabb as my franchise QB over Warner. and Brees needs a few more years to get to their level yet.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"] Switch Kurt Warner with McNabb, and then you would have won.Nike_Air

Agreed 100%. I'd put Drew Brees ahead of McNabb as well.

If I was drafting a QB , I'd go with McNabb as my franchise QB over Warner. and Brees needs a few more years to get to their level yet.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

Agreed 100%. I'd put Drew Brees ahead of McNabb as well.

If I was drafting a QB , I'd go with McNabb as my franchise QB over Warner. and Brees needs a few more years to get to their level yet.

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]I put McNabb ahead because I think he's done more with less and just a better all around player. Warner is great and and accurate passer , but his accomplishments are associated with the great receivers that he fell into his lap. Those 4 stud receivers were studs with him or without him. And he got to dump the ball off to a hall of famer in Marshal Faulk for some years.

If I was drafting a QB , I'd go with McNabb as my franchise QB over Warner. and Brees needs a few more years to get to their level yet.

monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]McNabb always had an All-Pro in Westbrook. For several years people said he needed dominant WR's. But when he gets Jackson and Maclin he can't produce.LoseEagles1245

A bunch of players got injured, thats what happened.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]No Elway?Oleg_Huzwog

I've never understood the love this guy gets, for two main reasons.

1. He was a selfish prima donna (refer to his actions in the 83 draft).
2. His stats are unimpressive compared to others who played in the same era (Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon).

Although only the second point has any relevance to the topic at hand.

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Can't produce? McNabb had a pretty good season. Not amazing, but 3553 yards, 22 TDs and only 10 INTs is a respectable season.Darth_Revan_666

A bunch of players got injured, thats what happened.

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"] He produced fantastically in three games against the Cowboys. I'm not saying he had a bad year, but the Eagles were Preseason Super Bowl favorites, and Lurie said they had the best roster in the league. What happened?

LoseEagles1245

A bunch of players got injured, thats what happened.

Like 3 O-Line starters were out and Julian Peters played hurt.

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

A bunch of players got injured, thats what happened.

Darth_Revan_666

Like 3 O-Line starters were out and Julian Peters played hurt.

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"] Who was really important besides Stewart Bradley? Even he couldn't have saved that defense.LoseEagles1245

Like 3 O-Line starters were out and Julian Peters played hurt.

The Cowboys pass rush killed the Eagles attack, what gives?

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

Like 3 O-Line starters were out and Julian Peters played hurt.

Darth_Revan_666

The Cowboys pass rush killed the Eagles attack, what gives?

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"] Nick Cole didn't get hurt till week 17, Shawn Andrews has never really been healthy, and Peters is overrated. They could have the best offensive line in the league and they still would have lost the Wild Card. Bobbles

The Cowboys pass rush killed the Eagles attack, what gives?

He doesnt care about the Pro Bowl, like all of us.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

The Cowboys pass rush killed the Eagles attack, what gives?

Darth_Revan_666

He doesnt care about the Pro Bowl, like all of us.

My top 10:

1. Joe Montana
2. Johnny Unitas
3. John Elway
4. Tom Brady
5. Peyton Manning
6. Steve Young
7. Dan Marino
8. Sammy Baugh
9. Otto Graham
10. Kurt Warner

Honrable Mentions: Fran Tarkenton, Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Jim Kelly, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman, Brett Farve.

I'm sure I'm missing some other great Qb's.