I just can't consider the Cavs as contenders.

Do not get me wrong, the Cavs are playing as good as anybody in the league right now. They just whooped the Celtics (who, for their defense, are in a pretty bad stretch).

And I don't hate LeBron like I used too. I know he's an awesome player, easily top 5 in the NBA and can carry a team all by himself to the Finals. I truly appreciate his athleticism, power and all-around game, although he's not as fearless as Bryant or Jordan or those rare players you give the ball to in the clutch without even thinking.

Still, I simply CAN'T consider them legitimate contenders... I don't know why, maybe because they are the Cavaliers, which means anything but success before James' arrival. Or maybe because they lack a second great player to complement LeBron.

Anybody feels that way too? Or am I alone?

You know what dude. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Cavs reach the Finals.

And I wouldn't be THAT surprised to see them win the whole thing, well maybe not this year but soon enough, although this year it's possible too, given their performance so far this season.

Just imagine if someone started watching football this year and saw the Lions for 0-16 and in a few years they actually reach the Super Bowl. That someone will still have that first impression of the Lions he had this year when they were winless.

That being said, it's quite possible that in 5 years the Hawks will dominate the league and the Bengals win Super Bowl '11 and the Stanley Cup goes to Long Island next season. Turnarounds happen a lot in sports.

Anyway, this postseason will be interesting if not exciting.

You said "I just can't consider the Cavs as contenders." Then, you said "I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Cavs reach the Finals."monkeytoes61

Lebron and co. are going to win at least 2 championships. 1 as a Cavalier. 1 or more as a Knick.scottyboy21203

The Cavs are playing unreal this year. The Team D is relentless, Lebron is simply unstopable, and williams, wally, and gibson are sniping the hell outta the 3 pt line.

I would not want to face this team in the playoffs, ESP. if they get home court throughout.

[QUOTE="scottyboy21203"]Lebron and co. are going to win at least 2 championships. 1 as a Cavalier. 1 or more as a Knick.CleanPlayer

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]You said "I just can't consider the Cavs as contenders." Then, you said "I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Cavs reach the Finals."Doomtime

That does not mean I consider them as contenders. Well it's kinda hard to understand since I can't explain myself properly since English is my third language. But what I meant is that I know the Cavs are a good team and they may get to the Finals but I don't put them in the same "elite" category as the Celtics, Lakers, Hornets or, I hate to admit it, the Spurs.

That's just me.

Until they play the top West Teams (Denver, NO, Utah, Houston, LA) and run through them like they're doing the East, I won't believe. All they can do is play their schedule so only time will tell, but I remember everyone was saying the same thing about the Celtics, and then they went to LA, and then Golden State, and well the rest is history. Kuruption84

Until they play the top West Teams (Denver, NO, Utah, Houston, LA) and run through them like they're doing the East, I won't believe. All they can do is play their schedule so only time will tell, but I remember everyone was saying the same thing about the Celtics, and then they went to LA, and then Golden State, and well the rest is history. Kuruption84

any team with Lebron is an instant contender Bauers-Twin

the Cavaliers are only good because they have like 15 jerseys they wear. Blue, Yellow, dark blue, white, red, geez these guys know a thing or 2 about fashion.Bauers-Twin

[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]any team with Lebron is an instant contender silky_smooth8

Your alone Cavs is a great team and the best in the east. The NBA Finals will be Lakers and Cavs you can quote me on that. demon565

Here we go again. First of all, there is a second superstar on the Cavaliers roster. His name is Zydrunas Ilgauskas TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="silky_smooth8"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]any team with Lebron is an instant contender andyboiii

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Here we go again. First of all, there is a second superstar on the Cavaliers roster. His name is Zydrunas Ilgauskas silky_smooth8

They don't have what it takes to get past the celtics, pistons, or even the magic in a 7 game series. DaBrainz

Oh god seriously? you make me laugh, the pistons are inconsistant, and the cavs have beaten them in the past in the playoffs with a lesser team, try harder.

May I also remind you that the cavs with a lesser team took the celtics to 7 games last season?

And now with a MUCH better team, and tied for the best record in the NBA aren't cap. of playing with these teams?

Troll a little harder next time.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]They don't have what it takes to get past the celtics, pistons, or even the magic in a 7 game series. Innovazero2000

Oh god seriously? you make me laugh, the pistons are inconsistant, and the cavs have beaten them in the past in the playoffs with a lesser team, try harder.

May I also remind you that the cavs with a lesser team took the celtics to 7 games last season?

And now with a MUCH better team, and tied for the best record in the NBA aren't cap. of playing with these teams?

Troll a little harder next time.

we also got to the finals 2 years ago, with a much lessor team.

I'd like you to explain why you say the cavs can't compete with those teams, when the cavs are 29-6 and are top 5 statistically in Defense, Offense/Offensive efficency, and rebounding.

I'd really like to hear it.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]They don't have what it takes to get past the celtics, pistons, or even the magic in a 7 game series. Innovazero2000

Oh god seriously? you make me laugh, the pistons are inconsistant, and the cavs have beaten them in the past in the playoffs with a lesser team, try harder.

May I also remind you that the cavs with a lesser team took the celtics to 7 games last season?

And now with a MUCH better team, and tied for the best record in the NBA aren't cap. of playing with these teams?

Troll a little harder next time.

Are you talking about the Cavs from two years ago that had no business being in the finals? I thought we were talking about the present. LJ is the most athletic player in the league, but he lacks skill in several areas. He has to thunder dunk because whenever he trys a lay-up it winds up back at the FT line as it bricks off the glass. Until LJ is on a team good enough were he is considered the second or third option, no championships for him.

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]They don't have what it takes to get past the celtics, pistons, or even the magic in a 7 game series. DaBrainz

Oh god seriously? you make me laugh, the pistons are inconsistant, and the cavs have beaten them in the past in the playoffs with a lesser team, try harder.

May I also remind you that the cavs with a lesser team took the celtics to 7 games last season?

And now with a MUCH better team, and tied for the best record in the NBA aren't cap. of playing with these teams?

Troll a little harder next time.

Are you talking about the Cavs from two years ago that had no business being in the finals? I thought we were talking about the present. LJ is the most athletic player in the league, but he lacks skill in several areas. He has to thunder dunk because whenever he trys a lay-up it winds up back at the FT line as it bricks off the glass. Until LJ is on a team good enough were he is considered the second or third option, no championships for him.

Are you talking about the Cavs from two years ago that had no business being in the finals? I thought we were talking about the present. LJ is the most athletic player in the league, but he lacks skill in several areas. He has to thunder dunk because whenever he trys a lay-up it winds up back at the FT line as it bricks off the glass. Until LJ is on a team good enough were he is considered the second or third option, no championships for him.

DaBrainz

Several areas? Maybe his long range jumpshot. And why would LeBron or any player who can dunk like that lay a ball up?

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

Oh god seriously? you make me laugh, the pistons are inconsistant, and the cavs have beaten them in the past in the playoffs with a lesser team, try harder.

May I also remind you that the cavs with a lesser team took the celtics to 7 games last season?

And now with a MUCH better team, and tied for the best record in the NBA aren't cap. of playing with these teams?

Troll a little harder next time.

Bauers-Twin

Are you talking about the Cavs from two years ago that had no business being in the finals? I thought we were talking about the present. LJ is the most athletic player in the league, but he lacks skill in several areas. He has to thunder dunk because whenever he trys a lay-up it winds up back at the FT line as it bricks off the glass. Until LJ is on a team good enough were he is considered the second or third option, no championships for him.

You said "I just can't consider the Cavs as contenders." Then, you said "I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Cavs reach the Finals."monkeytoes61

ur not alone i dont believe they can do it even with a great talent like Lebron he has nobody else and hes a choker in the clutch moments dont u remember when he missed a layup that coulda beaten the celtics in the playofffs last year? he cant do it alone SpeedForce32

apparently you haven't been watching the games this year, because when lebron doesn't play, the team is still taking it to the other team. He's down on his mins. by a good amount and yet they are still averaging what 103 a game? and defensively only giving up 88 points a game.

Nobody here has a legitimate reason for why they don't consider the cavs title contenders, because they are at or near the top as having the best shot right now.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Here we go again. First of all, there is a second superstar on the Cavaliers roster. His name is Zydrunas Ilgauskas silky_smooth8

[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

Are you talking about the Cavs from two years ago that had no business being in the finals? I thought we were talking about the present. LJ is the most athletic player in the league, but he lacks skill in several areas. He has to thunder dunk because whenever he trys a lay-up it winds up back at the FT line as it bricks off the glass. Until LJ is on a team good enough were he is considered the second or third option, no championships for him.

waynehead895

Here's the deal, Lebron's game is based almost solely on athletism not skill. This means in another five years (without winning a title) when he loses a step on the younger players, he will no longer be able to be "the man". He will still be a very good foward, but until they have someone that demands more attention than him (maybe a future point guard) he will not be able to win a title.

Until they play the top West Teams (Denver, NO, Utah, Houston, LA) and run through them like they're doing the East, I won't believe. All they can do is play their schedule so only time will tell, but I remember everyone was saying the same thing about the Celtics, and then they went to LA, and then Golden State, and well the rest is history. Kuruption84