Opinion on Rondo

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]hes the best player on the celtics and maybe a top 5 pg. definitely top 10DarkOfKnight

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

looks like rondo went for his 6th triple doub...oh wait... nah...he got shut down by the heat :lol:

-Tish-

[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

looks like rondo went for his 6th triple doub...oh wait... nah...he got shut down by the heat :lol:

Amazon-Blight

[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

looks like rondo went for his 6th triple doub...oh wait... nah...he got shut down by the heat :lol:

Amazon-Blight

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Amazon-Blight"] Easy to score when you aren't defended much to make easy mid range and 3 point shots.Amazon-Blight

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Amazon-Blight"] Easy to score when you aren't defended much to make easy mid range and 3 point shots.Amazon-Blight

He had 22 points from the second half to OT.

Not to mention his assists and rebounds.

[QUOTE="Amazon-Blight"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] They tried in the second half. Didn't work. Even put LeBron and Wade on him. Didn't work.No_Hablo_Ingles

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[QUOTE="Amazon-Blight"] He made 4 shots in the second half....hardly dominating. DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] You just confirmed what I thought: You didn't watch the game No_Hablo_Ingles

Well look at that - What was once Rondo's crutch [jumpshot/freethrows] became an asset. If only that was actually a consistent part of his game.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] .Dominating the game is more about scoring. More so when you are a PG. It's about Tempo control, setting up your team mates, etc. And considering he was getting to the line (and making them), getting assist, and getting pass to assist (which is important also), he was dominating. No_Hablo_Ingles

Including OT.

Whether or not you say he dominated the second half, he had a huge impact. Having to put Wade or Lebron on Rondo for a half is not your typical game plan.

If he wasn't making shots or hitting FTs, he was moving the ball and making plays.

Rajon Rondo is the 1st player in NBA history to have 44+ points, 10+ assists and 8+ rebounds in a playoff game.

What makes this more impressive? He did this without dominating the second half :roll:

Rajon Rondo is the 1st player in NBA history to have 44+ points, 10+ assists and 8+ rebounds in a playoff game.

What makes this more impressive? He did this without dominating the second half :roll:

No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] .Dominating the game is more about scoring. More so when you are a PG. It's about Tempo control, setting up your team mates, etc. And considering he was getting to the line (and making them), getting assist, and getting pass to assist (which is important also), he was dominating. No_Hablo_Ingles

Rajon Rondo is the 1st player in NBA history to have 44+ points, 10+ assists and 8+ rebounds in a playoff game.

What makes this more impressive? He did this without dominating the second half :roll:

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] And yet, he only made 5 shots in the second half. Your post about him making shots when being guarded by LeBron and D-Wade is kind of moot when he only made 5 shots. Hardly stretching the defense like you implied.DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] And yet, he only made 5 shots in the second half. Your post about him making shots when being guarded by LeBron and D-Wade is kind of moot when he only made 5 shots. Hardly stretching the defense like you implied.DroidPhysX

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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] 22 points in the second half I believe.xscrapzx

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Including OT? If so, OT isn't a part of the second half. Not to mention at least 6 points in OT came from open shots with lack of defense.

DroidPhysX

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Including OT? If so, OT isn't a part of the second half. Not to mention at least 6 points in OT came from open shots with lack of defense.

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Dude you are a clown please stop. He didn't even sit during the game, he played every second. Just stop you look like a fool, and clearly are being a hater, give credit where credit is due. He was dominating get over it.

-Tish-

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

Saying "WOW, Rondo is great" is kind of moot when it was known the Heat werent defending him much outside and ceding mid range jumpshots.

The Thunder didn't treat Parker the same way. They just got outhustled by the Spurs leaving him open at times whilst Miami knowingly let Rondo try for an open jumper.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Dude you are a clown please stop. He didn't even sit during the game, he played every second. Just stop you look like a fool, and clearly are being a hater, give credit where credit is due. He was dominating get over it.

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Um he had 22 points in the second half, so 10-13 of those 22 points were jumpers while the others were taken to the hoop, so are we discrediting the points he got from driving to the hoop? I don't get your logic here. You are so high on the jumpers, but you aren't crediting him for driving to the hoop and getting baskets or free throws. So in order to dominate in your mind is to shoot contested shots all game long?xscrapzx

Rajon Rondo is the 1st player in NBA history to have 44+ points, 10+ assists and 8+ rebounds in a playoff game.

What makes this more impressive? He did this without dominating the second half :roll:

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Um he had 22 points in the second half, so 10-13 of those 22 points were jumpers while the others were taken to the hoop, so are we discrediting the points he got from driving to the hoop? I don't get your logic here. You are so high on the jumpers, but you aren't crediting him for driving to the hoop and getting baskets or free throws. So in order to dominate in your mind is to shoot contested shots all game long?xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Hello Mr. Straw man.Jagged3dge

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Hello Mr. Straw man.DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Your argument in this entire thread has been that he was not dominant or dominanting anyone last night. Yet the only thing you bring to the table to say he wasn't is that in the second half of the game he took 5 shots. Yet you neglect everything else that he did.xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"] Funny, people do the same thing to LeBron when he dominates and screws up at final plays...Jagged3dge

[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Someone presents facts of how he was shooting wide open jumpers.

Someone else then claims (or implies) he was making shots when he was guarded heavily by Wade and LeBron in the second half.

I then present the facts of how he only made 5 shots in the second half.

Yep. D-Wade and LeBron got domianted giving up 5 shots. :lol:

DroidPhysX

Saying "WOW, Rondo is great" is kind of moot when it was known the Heat werent defending him much outside and ceding mid range jumpshots.

The Thunder didn't treat Parker the same way. They just got outhustled by the Spurs leaving him open at times whilst Miami knowingly let Rondo try for an open jumper.

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[QUOTE="-Tish-"]By your logic Tony Parker did not dominate game 2 with all the open 15-17ft jumpers he made. -Tish-

Saying "WOW, Rondo is great" is kind of moot when it was known the Heat werent defending him much outside and ceding mid range jumpshots.

The Thunder didn't treat Parker the same way. They just got outhustled by the Spurs leaving him open at times whilst Miami knowingly let Rondo try for an open jumper.

[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Different players. Parker is known to make jumpers. Rondo is historically a horrible perimeter shooter. The Heat did not bother to defend Rondo at times.

Saying "WOW, Rondo is great" is kind of moot when it was known the Heat werent defending him much outside and ceding mid range jumpshots.

The Thunder didn't treat Parker the same way. They just got outhustled by the Spurs leaving him open at times whilst Miami knowingly let Rondo try for an open jumper.

DroidPhysX

While I do believe that Rondo dominated the game, I don't think a large part of it was very difficult. Not trying to downplay his performance because he did play amazing. But most of his shots were uncontested, easy shots because Spo refused to respect his jumpshot. If Rondo had that dimension as a consistent part of his game then he would easily be a superstar.

Opinion on Rocdo:

I've always liked Rondo. I think there are more positives than negatives with his game. Yeah, he's not a great/good outside shooter but his career fg% is 48%, so he's effective. And he can have great shooting games as witnessed last night. He's only 26 yrs old and can become a more consistent shooter.

Given his rebounding, heart/hustle, passing/floor genralship, defense, ability to drive and finish, ability to step up in big games and play huge......I'd take him any day as my starting PG to go against the other elite PG's in the game.

I also don't care about his alleged attitude issues, when he's on the court he's usually ballin hard. I see his "attitude" as more passion for the game and dislike of losing, It's not a detriment to the team or his game.

Given his rebounding, heart/hustle, passing/floor genralship, defense, ability to drive and finish, ability to step up in big games and play huge......I'd take him any day as my starting PG to go against the other elite PG's in the game.

mont13

Agreed. Rondo is one of the rare players that can actually impact a game without needing to be a prolific scorer from time-to-time, which an exceptional quality for a star player. You take scoring away from the other key point guards in the league, and almost everyone would say that they had an off-night. Rondo can have a six point night and STILL be the best player on the court. His rebounding and nose for the ball are clearly the cream of the point guard crop, and I don't think there is a better playmaker than this guy.

The fact that Rondo found himself behind three other point guards in the All-NBA Team voting is an absolute JOKE, and last night's game made it painfully obvious.

I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.-Halftime-

Probably so, I forgot about that trade. I like Rondo's game. He's one of the most unique players to ever play.

I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.-Halftime-

I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.-Halftime-

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.Jagged3dge

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.Jagged3dge