Opinion on Rondo

[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"]I bet the Suns are kicking themselves that they traded Rondo. Nash would never have a game like this in the playoffs.-Halftime-

I disagree in almost every single way. What do people see in rondo exactly? How do you have 3 HOF'ers and one of the best coaches in the league yet still be one of the worst offensive teams every year? Oh i know, Rondoball. There's a reason celtics fans aren't angry about trading him.

Rondo's the perfect example of stats hiding a players flaws(besides josh smith). For every steal makes, he allows another basket due to his aggresiveness(look at chris paul and ricky rubio for true examples of a good defending pg). For every assist he makes he wastes another possesion by either dribbling the clock away, taking far too long to get into their offensive sets, or by just passing the ball to kg or paul at the top of the key in hopes that they can bail him out with a jump shot.

There's a reason they've been one of the worst offenses in the league since the big 3 era, and it's because of rondo. Did you know that the celtics averaged more ppg this year and in offense efficency when he was hurt and avery bradley started? Think about that.

I seriously don't know how you'd take rondo over nash. You think the celtics terrible offense would be worse if nash was on the team instead? Absolutely not. And I'm really not sure where you got the idea that steve nash doesn't show up in the playoffs. I put this in another thread, but i guess i should put it here too:

I would take CP3, Deron williams, tony parker, russel westbrook, nash, rubio, irving, hell even kyle lowry and tyreke evans over rajon rondo. Why? because they are point guards you can build around. Rondo is the perfect complementary piece to a team, and that's it. It annoys me when people praise rondo so much, when he is in the perfect system for his type of ability(the saddest thing about this? In a perfect system for him, the offense sucks).

Rant over. Sorry about that, I'm around celtics fans a good bit so i've seen a good amount of their games and it just annoys me when people overpraise him because they see the stats and the flashy highlights. Rondo is the Josh smith of point guards, flashes of brilliance one day, absolutely horrid moments of failure the next. If he did all the time what he did against the heat in game 2, i'd have nothing to complain about.

What are you basing this 'terrible Celtics offense' off exactly? PPG? Hollinger's off efficiency? Using Hollinger's advance statistics, this is the first time they ranked outside the top 20 in the last 5 years. While their defense eff. has NEVER ranked outside the top 5. Steve Nash's team (even though they switched to a slower paced in recent years) has never ranked in the top 15. The offense in Boston is stagnate? Highest assist ratio in the NBA this year, ranking in the top 2 for the last 4 years. I'll put it simply and in the form of a question. When all 3 HOFers that you mention are giving this kid all the credit in the world, telling us that Rondo put them in a position to score, and when the coach that you said is 'one of the best coaches in the league' is raving about him, who the hell do you think you are to suggest that this kid isn't an amazing PG? When 8 different NBA analysis and writers are asked the question Nash or Rondo and all of them gives the same answer http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/02/blogtable-rondo-vs-nash/ it's time to just be quite in the corner rather then talk and show how little you know about the NBA. And questioning Rondo's defense? That is one of the only parts of his game that goes unquestioned. The problem is I can post evidence of his defense and you can cherry pick the occasional lost gamble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f4ClgZgSOMNo_Hablo_Ingles

Every team Nash plays on has a terrible defense every year. He's part of that problem. No defense= no rings. There's a reason a team with Steve Nash on it has never won a title. There's a reason the Mavs got better after he left. And he does come up small in the playoffs. In the 2010 West Finals the Lakers had more trouble guarding freaking Dragic than Nash.-Halftime-

Every team Nash plays on has a terrible defense every year. He's part of that problem. No defense= no rings. There's a reason a team with Steve Nash on it has never won a title. There's a reason the Mavs got better after he left. And he does come up small in the playoffs. In the 2010 West Finals the Lakers had more trouble guarding freaking Dragic than Nash.-Halftime-

Before Rondo became prominent, the celtics were a good defensive AND offensive team. And this was without the need for fast breaks, as they have always been one of the slower paced offenses in the league since the creation of the big 3, shortened season or not.ice144

Anyway, even in their championship year they weren't a top 10 offense, according to Hollinger'sadvance statistics or PPG. Along with that, the Big three have gotten older, with a decline in skills yet they are still the staples of the offense. There bench has also gotten noticeably weaker.

[QUOTE="ice144"]Before Rondo became prominent, the celtics were a good defensive AND offensive team. And this was without the need for fast breaks, as they have always been one of the slower paced offenses in the league since the creation of the big 3, shortened season or not.No_Hablo_Ingles

Anyway, even in their championship year they weren't a top 10 offense, according to Hollinger'sadvance statistics or PPG. Along with that, the Big three have gotten older, with a decline in skills yet they are still the staples of the offense. There bench has also gotten noticeably weaker.

did anyone watch Westbrook this game? nearly cost them the game, how are you going to let Perkins and Ibaka outscore you plus made a bonehead play in the final minute. please don't ever say he's a better PG than Rondoandyboiii

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Who cares is still a funny read.

Now imagine if Knicks were some how still in PO, hint hint with the opposite effect of course.

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Horrible shooting night for Rondo in game 5 (3 of 15), also with 5 turnovers but he stll had a big positive impact in the Boston win. He controlled the game with his playmaking and, along with others, made some key plays to help get the win. I still have a high opinion of his ability.

i like rondo but he a bit overrated and inconsistent.The Celtics win because of their defense and not their offense. So Kevin Garnett is the best player on the celtics because what he brings especially on the defensive side of the ball.