1 AAAAE + 3 AAAE vs. 5 AAAE?

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#1 dackchaar
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If Killzone 2 receives a 9.0 or 9.5 would we consider the PS3 and 360 on even grounds? Considering the PS3 has an AAAAE and 360 has none, that makes up for the extra AAAE the 360 would have correct?
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#2 superkoolstud
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If Killzone 2 receives a 9.0 or 9.5 would we consider the PS3 and 360 on even grounds? Considering the PS3 has an AAAAE and 360 has none, that makes up for the extra AAAE the 360 would have correct?dackchaar
I highly doubt Killzone 2 will get a 10, as it feels like the game is missing something, sure it looks great and the AI is cool, but it missing a dash of something it needs.
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#3 Lionheart08
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Well...adding all that up it'd be 13As to 15. :P

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#4 Ross_the_B0SS
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I guess you could look at it like that. It's really up to you. And I'm assuming you left out Geometry Wars 2?
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#5 opex07
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The 360 would still have an extra AAAE and about 9 more AAEs aswell.
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#6 ActicEdge
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What about all the games below AAAE like AAE? The 360 is still ahead, deal with it people. When the PS3 has surpassed the 360 in total quality AAAA, AAA, AA, A games then it can be in the lead.
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If Killzone 2 receives a 9.0 or 9.5 would we consider the PS3 and 360 on even grounds? Considering the PS3 has an AAAAE and 360 has none, that makes up for the extra AAAE the 360 would have correct?dackchaar
thats about how i would count it, i bet some one will say some thing to the effect of AAAA= 5xAAA ps3 pwn rrod60 luz

edit: only if you discount games lower then AAA

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#8 Master-Thief-09
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PC owns both.
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#9 dackchaar
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The 360 would still have an extra AAAE and about 9 more AAEs aswell.opex07
Yes, it has more AAEs but people always talked about the AAAE back when they were claiming the PS3 had no games, and also I was meaning in terms of AAA+ titles being even.
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#10 bokiloki
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perfect dark and ghost recon shouldn't even count. Those games are average at best on todays standards. I mean nobody's buying a 360 to play the great Perfect Dark lol. When those games were released there was nothing to compare them to so they got high scores.
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#11 opex07
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[QUOTE="opex07"]The 360 would still have an extra AAAE and about 9 more AAEs aswell.dackchaar
Yes, it has more AAEs but people always talked about the AAAE back when they were claiming the PS3 had no games, and also I was meaning in terms of AAA+ titles being even.

Most people said that because PS3 fans claimed that the 360 had no games until Gears of War 1 came out.
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#12 ActicEdge
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perfect dark and ghost recon shouldn't even count. Those games are average at best on todays standards. I mean nobody's buying a 360 to play the great Perfect Dark lol. When those games were released there was nothing to compare them to so they got high scores.bokiloki

Sure, lets just ignore older games because they aren't as good as new games. Screw the fact that they were reviewed for that time period, lets ignore games from the past :roll: Looking at PS3 software sales, nobody is buying the system to play the new games or old ones so what's your point? What are they using it for.

See how easy it is to be ignorant?

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perfect dark and ghost recon shouldn't even count. Those games are average at best on todays standards. I mean nobody's buying a 360 to play the great Perfect Dark lol. When those games were released there was nothing to compare them to so they got high scores.bokiloki
Still, we go by Gamespot scores, and I enjoyed those games.
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#14 Silverbond
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PC owns both.Master-Thief-09

I'm tired of comments like these. Did the TC mention the PC at all?

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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.Silverbond

I'm tired of comments like these. Did the TC mention the PC at all?

He posted in System Wars where all things PC can be compared.
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#16 superkoolstud
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I would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.
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perfect dark and ghost recon shouldn't even count. Those games are average at best on todays standards. I mean nobody's buying a 360 to play the great Perfect Dark lol. When those games were released there was nothing to compare them to so they got high scores.bokiloki

PD0 - 1.74 m

ps3 AAA games that sold less and so less then nobody purchased a ps3 for and so should be discounted as well

R2

ok so most AAA games on the ps3 sold more then PD0 but if you discount that game for your crazy reason resistance 2 is also gone. mind you perfect dark zero was a launch title and a lot of people did get the 360 for it back then

edit: ghost recon sold 2.4m be glad i did not use that as the bench mark seeing as only a slect few games on the ps3 have sold that well

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#18 joopyme
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I would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.superkoolstud
a 10 may be far-fetched, but if you've been shutting down other gamer's opinions, critic reviews, and consumer appreciation from the game, then you'd likely end up not wanting the game at all. jump in.
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#19 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.superkoolstud

I'm tired of comments like these. Did the TC mention the PC at all?

He posted in System Wars where all things PC can be compared.

Did he mention the PC? No.

Why mention something that is clearly being excluded?

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#20 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="superkoolstud"]I would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.joopyme
a 10 may be far-fetched, but if you've been shutting down other gamer's opinions, critic reviews, and consumer appreciation from the game, then you'd likely end up not wanting the game at all. jump in.

I played the beta and download the Demo and it isn't bad, I just don't think its everything people are making it out to be. I mean you gotta have good rep to expect a 10. With a game like GOW3, It has 2 highly successful Prequels and I can see a 10 as a possibility. But KZ2 is being hyped as the "end all be all", just like the first and will probably disappoint and spread snickers and I told you so's.
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#21 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="superkoolstud"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I'm tired of comments like these. Did the TC mention the PC at all?

Silverbond

He posted in System Wars where all things PC can be compared.

Did he mention the PC? No.

Why mention something that is clearly being excluded?

The thing is, PC isn't excluded on this board. If he posted it on the PS3 board then it would. See the difference. You can't go into the PS3 board saying PC owns all or you could end up getting a warning. Here it is perfectly acceptable to compare PC to all things console.
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#22 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="superkoolstud"] He posted in System Wars where all things PC can be compared. superkoolstud

Did he mention the PC? No.

Why mention something that is clearly being excluded?

The thing is, PC isn't excluded on this board. If he posted it on the PS3 board then it would. See the difference. You can't go into the PS3 board saying PC owns all or you could end up getting a warning. Here it is perfectly acceptable to compare PC to all things console.

If he mentioned this on the PS3 board he'd be modded.

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#23 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="superkoolstud"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Did he mention the PC? No.

Why mention something that is clearly being excluded?

Silverbond

The thing is, PC isn't excluded on this board. If he posted it on the PS3 board then it would. See the difference. You can't go into the PS3 board saying PC owns all or you could end up getting a warning. Here it is perfectly acceptable to compare PC to all things console.

If he mentioned this on the PS3 board he'd be modded.

Yes this is what i'am getting at.
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#24 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="superkoolstud"] The thing is, PC isn't excluded on this board. If he posted it on the PS3 board then it would. See the difference. You can't go into the PS3 board saying PC owns all or you could end up getting a warning. Here it is perfectly acceptable to compare PC to all things console.superkoolstud

If he mentioned this on the PS3 board he'd be modded.

Yes this is what i'am getting at.

I don't understand, but meh.

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PC owns both.Master-Thief-09
yeah! i love spending 5000 on a pc to run crysis! right guys =D fail. Consoles>PC
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#26 -Master_St3ve-
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This AAAE garbage is really getting out of hand. I don't even count AAAA score as even slightly reliable. No game is ever perfect and for a game to receive a AAAA is extremely subjective.
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.Hathesulacon
yeah! i love spending 5000 on a pc to run crysis! right guys =D fail. Consoles>PC

Whats a fail is that fact you have no idea what your talking about.
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#28 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.Hathesulacon
yeah! i love spending 5000 on a pc to run crysis! right guys =D fail. Consoles>PC

PC's don't cost that much. You can max Crysis with a $800-$900 PC. Besides I thought all you console boys were about was teh Graphix and Shinies.
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.Hathesulacon
yeah! i love spending 5000 on a pc to run crysis! right guys =D fail. Consoles>PC

The great part about investing in PCs is they are good for many other things too including coming to this website. And $5,000?:?

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#30 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"][QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.-Master_St3ve-
yeah! i love spending 5000 on a pc to run crysis! right guys =D fail. Consoles>PC

Whats a fail is that fact you have no idea what your talking about.

you beat me to it.

so tired of the ZOMG U NEEDZ TEH $5k PC TO RUN GAMES CONSOLES OWNZZORS

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This AAAE garbage is really getting out of hand. I don't even count AAAA score as even slightly reliable. No game is ever perfect and for a game to receive a AAAA is extremely subjective. -Master_St3ve-

it means as close to perfect as possible.

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#32 Master-Thief-09
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[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]This AAAE garbage is really getting out of hand. I don't even count AAAA score as even slightly reliable. No game is ever perfect and for a game to receive a AAAA is extremely subjective. CaseyWegner

it means as close to perfect as possible.

In the eyes of the reviewer.
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#33 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]This AAAE garbage is really getting out of hand. I don't even count AAAA score as even slightly reliable. No game is ever perfect and for a game to receive a AAAA is extremely subjective. Master-Thief-09

it means as close to perfect as possible.

In the eyes of the reviewer.

or Many Reviewers as a game is often reviewed by many different people and publications.
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This AAA stuff is ridiculous. Good games are good games, regardless of "AAA" status. I'm tired of games 8.9 and under being under appreciated to be honest.
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#36 Perception1
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I would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.superkoolstud
He said 9 or 9.5 for Killzone 2, the AAAAE he's talking about is MGS4.
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#37 Hitman533
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I normally don't want to say this but this just proof's how superior the PS3 actually is. The PS3 came out 1 year after the 360 and it still managed to come very very close and even surpassed the 360 game library in quality. The Xbox 360 is such a failure... Lets check sales. The PS3 20million in 2 years and the 360 28 million in 3 years. That means the PS3 sold an average of 10m units per year while the 360 sold 8million a year. Wow what a fail for MS. Sales wise 1st. Wii 2nd. PS3 and Xbox3rd sells the less every year even though it has been 200$ cheaper than the PS3 wow what a failure.

So much for that many Sony haters in 2006 and 2007 and just look now the PS3 is the best console money can buy.

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#38 glez13
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This AAA stuff is ridiculous. Good games are good games, regardless of "AAA" status. I'm tired of games 8.9 and under being under appreciated to be honest. carljohnson3456

LOL yes I agree with you. Even the official SW list completely ignores "A" games now, it only counts AA+ games.

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#39 strudel420
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AAE's are garbage and should be ignored.
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I normally don't want to say this but this just proof's how superior the PS3 actually is. The PS3 came out 1 year after the 360 and it still managed to come very very close and even surpassed the 360 game library in quality. The Xbox 360 is such a failure... Lets check sales. The PS3 20million in 2 years and the 360 28 million in 3 years. That means the PS3 sold an average of 10m units per year while the 360 sold 8million a year. Wow what a fail for MS. Sales wise 1st. Wii 2nd. PS3 and Xbox3rd sells the less every year even though it has been 200$ cheaper than the PS3 wow what a failure.

So much for that many Sony haters in 2006 and 2007 and just look now the PS3 is the best console money can buy.

Hitman533
You're both failures in comparison to the PC.
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I normally don't want to say this but this just proof's how superior the PS3 actually is. The PS3 came out 1 year after the 360 and it still managed to come very very close and even surpassed the 360 game library in quality. The Xbox 360 is such a failure... Lets check sales. The PS3 20million in 2 years and the 360 28 million in 3 years. That means the PS3 sold an average of 10m units per year while the 360 sold 8million a year. Wow what a fail for MS. Sales wise 1st. Wii 2nd. PS3 and Xbox3rd sells the less every year even though it has been 200$ cheaper than the PS3 wow what a failure.

So much for that many Sony haters in 2006 and 2007 and just look now the PS3 is the best console money can buy.

Hitman533

and back to reality. the ps3 is not even close to matching the 360 in games.

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#42 superkoolstud
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[QUOTE="superkoolstud"]I would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.Perception1
He said 9 or 9.5 for Killzone 2, the AAAAE he's talking about is MGS4.

The "expecting a 10"is more for the Chad Warden's on these boards who put the game on a Pedestal.
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PC owns both.Master-Thief-09

Cmon man, let us have our fun deciding who gets second place. We all know the juggernaut known as the PC is on top but do u have to rub it in? :(

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If Killzone 2 receives a 9.0 or 9.5 would we consider the PS3 and 360 on even grounds? Considering the PS3 has an AAAAE and 360 has none, that makes up for the extra AAAE the 360 would have correct?dackchaar
Lets not forget all those AAA and AA PC/360 games that arent available on the PS3.When comparing the PS3 to the 360 you cant discount these games as much and as hard as you guys try they are in the 360s library and not the PS3s.
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#45 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]PC owns both.Silverbond

I'm tired of comments like these. Did the TC mention the PC at all?

Well I was bashed yesterday for trying to make the point that, although PC gaming is alive, and the strongest system around, the bulk of the "war" and fighting is console arguements. Nobody posts PC sales statistics trying to one up the Wii, 360, or PS3 because it really isn't in the "war".
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[QUOTE="dackchaar"]If Killzone 2 receives a 9.0 or 9.5 would we consider the PS3 and 360 on even grounds? Considering the PS3 has an AAAAE and 360 has none, that makes up for the extra AAAE the 360 would have correct?xgraderx
Lets not forget all those AAA and AA PC/360 games that arent available on the PS3.When comparing the PS3 to the 360 you cant discount these games as much and as hard as you guys try they are in the 360s library and not the PS3s.

Exactly, exclusive or not, the 360 still has halo, gears, mass effect and other quality games that the PS3 doesnt have. If you are comparing excluysives of 360 vs PS3 then all the games that are on 360 and arent on the PS3 should be counted, even if they are on PC.

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I normally don't want to say this but this just proof's how superior the PS3 actually is. The PS3 came out 1 year after the 360 and it still managed to come very very close and even surpassed the 360 game library in quality. The Xbox 360 is such a failure... Lets check sales. The PS3 20million in 2 years and the 360 28 million in 3 years. That means the PS3 sold an average of 10m units per year while the 360 sold 8million a year. Wow what a fail for MS. Sales wise 1st. Wii 2nd. PS3 and Xbox3rd sells the less every year even though it has been 200$ cheaper than the PS3 wow what a failure.

So much for that many Sony haters in 2006 and 2007 and just look now the PS3 is the best console money can buy.

Hitman533

28/3 = 8? :?

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#48 GamerJM
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Geez, do you guys have to use abriviations all the time on this board :|?!
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#49 tek91
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would also remind the TC that Killzone 1 got a 6.9, so expecting a 10 is putting your hopes way way high.

Killzone 2 is already scoring AAAE scores from 95% of sites.

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#50 tek91
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This AAAE garbage is really getting out of hand. I don't even count AAAA score as even slightly reliable. No game is ever perfect and for a game to receive a AAAA is extremely subjective. -Master_St3ve-
MGS 4 = perfection