100% proof Nintendo is the king of milkage . . .

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

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one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?st1ka

nintendo does a better job of sapcing outtheir games

The day Snake, Master Chief, Kratos, and a Resident Evil Zombie are in a baseball, brawl, soccer, go-cart, party, paper, or tennis game - then I think you can say these guys have been milked as much as the Nintendo franchises.

The difference is - people still love the Nintendo franchises. Some of it is garbage, like Mario Strikers - but who doesnt love Mario Party or Brawl???

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

st1ka

yes but i don't think that really matters. any company would be stupid not to use a brand that they know sells well no matter how long it's been out. in 20 years if the Halo brand is still strong like zelda and mario is then you can bet there will be a game with Halo on the cover scheduled.

[QUOTE="st1ka"] the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

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one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?BuryMe

nintendo does a better job of sapcing outtheir games

• Mario Party Advance (Game Boy Advance)
• Dr. Mario & Puzzle League (Game Boy Advance)
• Mario Superstar Baseball (GameCube)
• Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix (GameCube)
• Super Princess Peach (Nintendo DS)
• Mario Party 7 (GameCube)
• Mario Kart DS (Nintendo DS)
• Mario Tennis: Power Tour (Game Boy Advance)
• Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Nintendo DS)
• Super Mario Strikers (GameCube)
• Mario Kart Arcade GP (Arcade)
• NBA Street V3 (GameCube) Nintendo All Stars Team
• SSX On Tour (GameCube) Mario is a playable snowboarder
• Yoshi Touch & Go (Nintendo DS)

• Game & Watch Collection (Nintendo DS)
• New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo DS)
• Mario Hoops 3-on-3 (Nintendo DS)
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo DS)
• Yoshi's Island DS - (Nintendo DS)
• WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Wii) - Appears in minigames

• WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Wii) - Appears in minigames
• Super Paper Mario (Wii) - April 9
• Mario Party 8 (Wii)
• Itadaki Street DS (Nintendo DS)
• Mario Strikers Charged (Wii)
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo DS)
• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii/Nintendo DS)
• Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - November 12, 2007
• Mario Party DS (Nintendo DS) - November 19, 2007 [1]

• Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - March 9, 2008
• Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - April 27, 2008
• Mario Super Sluggers (Wii) - Summer 2008
• Dr. Mario & Bacteria Extermination (Wii WiiWare) - TBA, 2008
• Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (arcade game) - TBA 2008

And what are we on.......Mario party 10 now?

Sorry your thread fails with that alone.

please tell me, how is this not milking the franchise?

st1ka

it's more of milking a brand than franchise.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

JuarN18

4 zeldas

3 halos

2 Marios

4 Call Of Duty (without counting some spinoffs)

Lol...?

I don't even know what to say... Mario has more games that are of just Mario games. But no, you have to count spinoffs, because that's where the milking comes in. Halo has had a total of 3 games for it so far, with Halo Wars coming from Ensemble Studios, and another game coming from someone (Forgot his name). I don't follow the COD series so I can't comment.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

gamer620

None of the companies that developed those games have been around for half the time as nintendo (when it comes to Console gaming atleast). The only reason Nintendo releases MORE "recycled" titles is because they have a been around longer to create MORE franchises.

i have no problem with recicling, i do have a problem with the fact that its always mario, at least their next game will be kid icarus, i like the fact that game will be recicled, i dont like the fact that mario has appeared in some way or other in over 200 games

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

Ontain

yes but i don't think that really matters. any company would be stupid not to use a brand that they know sells well no matter how long it's been out. in 20 years if the Halo brand is still strong like zelda and mario is then you can bet there will be a game with Halo on the cover scheduled.

i agree with you, except that i am pretty sure that if we see a new halo every year or every 2 years i will eventually get tired of the franchise, no matter how much they try to change it (halo kart, halo tennis) when that happens that is one franchise i will simply stop purchasing

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

please tell me, how is this not milking the franchise?

Ontain

it's more of milking a brand than franchise.

your right, my mistake, this is what i am trying to say, i have grown tired of the mario franchise, it has gotten to the point where i can hardly even play any game that has mario in it (except for the old school games i played as a kid and for the mario RPGs like superstar saga) it basically comes down to this for me "Is this game so good that i will play with mario again?" most of the times the answer is a no (remeber: i dont like platforming games) however there are a few exceptions like i mentioned earlier, but thats exactly what they are, exceptions, the norm for me is usually being put off because its mario again

The day Snake, Master Chief, Kratos, and a Resident Evil Zombie are in a baseball, brawl, soccer, go-cart, party, paper, or tennis game - then I think you can say these guys have been milked as much as the Nintendo franchises.

The difference is - people still love the Nintendo franchises. Some of it is garbage, like Mario Strikers - but who doesnt love Mario Party or Brawl???

carljohnson3456

you have a point. the sports and party games do exploit the mario brand to get sales. but the other characters that you mentioned wouldn't work as well in those type of games. mostly because they are "serious" characters and the ip owners don't want them in many non-serious games since it wouldn't be good for their image. Mario is not a serious character so we don't think it's strange to see him in a go kart. kratos in a gokart just seems silly and would be a turn off to his wanna be "mature" fans. In a way that's why we don't see many outside the mario franchise in these type of games. SSBB is a bit of an exception because it's characters beating each other up. it wouldn't be as bad to see those serious characters in a fighting game.

This argument is so annoying.

Mario hasn't actually had that many main platformer games. Mario Tennis, Kart, Golf, Strikers, etc., they aren't Mario games. They're Nintendo's tennis, racing, golf, and soccer games. Do you expect them not to use their popular characters for sports games? What are they going to do, have a story for each one?

If those games didn't have "Mario" in the name, you wouldn't know, care, or complain. Seems a bit stupid, doesn't it?

Rachet and Clank is milkage. Mario is not.

EDIT: Just clarifying, not against the OP.

This argument is so annoying.

Mario hasn't actually had that many main platformer games. Mario Tennis, Kart, Golf, Strikers, etc., they aren't Mario games. They're Nintendo's tennis, racing, golf, and soccer games. Do you expect them not to use their popular characters for sports games? What are they going to do, have a story for each one?

If those games didn't have "Mario" in the name, you wouldn't know, care, or complain. Seems a bit stupid, doesn't it?

Rachet and Clank is milkage. Mario is not.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

if those are not Mario games then are they actually called MARIO? at very least call them nintendo tennis ot nintendo kart and put all of nintendos characters in it, calling it mario kart or mario tennis is just as much milkage as ratchet and clank, after all isnt milkage something a company does to con some extra money from its clients? if simply naming the game mario, even though it has nothing to do with mario games simply to sell more units, then its milking

if those are not Mario games then are they actually called MARIO? at very least call them nintendo tennis ot nintendo kart and put all of nintendos characters in it, calling it mario kart or mario tennis is just as much milkage as ratchet and clank

st1ka

Why? Nintendo Tennis wouldn't sell as much as Mario Tennis. If it makes no difference otherwise, what's the problem with that?

your right, my mistake, this is what i am trying to say, i have grown tired of the mario franchise, it has gotten to the point where i can hardly even play any game that has mario in it (except for the old school games i played as a kid and for the mario RPGs like superstar saga)

st1ka

it's strange. before this gen i haven't played a mario game since the nes. (PC only during snes and up) so for me it hasn't tired. in fact i find the little guy funny to watch.

as for your previous comment about halo kart or tennis. like i said, Halo unlike mario is a "serious" game and wouldn't go that route. you're more likely to see different types of war games. RTS or Strategy or more spin off FPS, or TPS, or even board games and card games.

I bought this point up before and got a warning, but yeah I totally agree, people seem to over-exaggerate how many games in a franchise Nintendo actually bring out. Counting only 3d games since Sony and MS have only been making consoles since then, well MS even less but still, counting them there has been, 3 Marios, 3 Metroids, 3 Mario Karts, 4 Zeldas and 3 SSB games. Now look at some Sony and MS franchises, 3 Halos in only 2 consoles, 4 PGR's in 2 consoles, 5 Ratchet and Clank games in only 2 consoles, 4 MGS's in 3 consoles, I could list many many more. Frankly I find the argument a very stupid one. And nobody can disagree with those figures.

I see it that the only reason people pick up on it is because of things like the Mario spin-offs, there are a fair amount of them and people seem to think they actually count as series' when most of them are one offs.

Nice job showing some of the best games for each system that are actually worth $60. Milkage isn't making sequel after sequel.

First off most the sequels are 2 or more years apart. Something like Need For Speed, Madden or Tony Hawk would be games that fall in the milkage category.

Nice try failing miserably.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

your right, my mistake, this is what i am trying to say, i have grown tired of the mario franchise, it has gotten to the point where i can hardly even play any game that has mario in it (except for the old school games i played as a kid and for the mario RPGs like superstar saga)

Ontain

it's strange. before this gen i haven't played a mario game since the nes. (PC only during snes and up) so for me it hasn't tired. in fact i find the little guy funny to watch.

as for your previous comment about halo kart or tennis. like i said, Halo unlike mario is a "serious" game and wouldn't go that route. you're more likely to see different types of war games. RTS or Strategy or more spin off FPS, or TPS, or even board games and card games.

i understand, i used an extreme case for joking purposes, i have played mario games on evey console made by nintendo since the NES days (except for the virtual boy) and... well.... im sick of mario, if nintendo hadnt launched all those spin offs like mario kart, tennis, party, strikers, maybe things would have been different, but i for one am tired of the franchise

[QUOTE="st1ka"]if those are not Mario games then are they actually called MARIO? at very least call them nintendo tennis ot nintendo kart and put all of nintendos characters in it, calling it mario kart or mario tennis is just as much milkage as ratchet and clank

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Why? Nintendo Tennis wouldn't sell as much as Mario Tennis. If it makes no difference otherwise, what's the problem with that?

i edited my original post, i already answered that in my edit sorry, should have put it sooner

I'm going in and saying this, and it is what I think. I don't really care if Nintendo bring out Mario Party 34, or if there will be a Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Soccer, Mario Baseball, Mario Cricket, Mario Doing-the-Washing or anythinging like that every generation. Why - one thing, no one is telling you to buy them.

I have never owned any of the Mario 'spin-offs', except for Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. I love these two games, and I do love playing some of the other Mario spin-offs (Mario Party and Mario Tennis in particular) sometimes. They are aquick boost of fun when you need it.

Personally, I don't think that making proper sequals to games is milkage, yet making spin-offs and such is. Thing is, if it is done well, then who cares? Do you hear many people complaining about Super Smash Bros or Mario Kart? These two spin-offs are great games in their own mind. Now if the spin-offs made by Nintendo were comming out every year (ie. Mario Tennis 2008, 09, 10, 11), then I would have a problem, but having one Mario game of each sport comming out every 4 years aint that bad. And by the way, I know Mario Party comes out every year, yet I'd say that 90% of people don't buy every years version.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="st1ka"] the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?st1ka

nintendo does a better job of sapcing outtheir games

*list of games*

please tell me, how is this not milking the franchise?

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="st1ka"] the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

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one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?BubbyJello

nintendo does a better job of sapcing outtheir games

*list of games*

please tell me, how is this not milking the franchise?

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

and the 360 is a $370-450 slot machine. sometimes you get the jackpot...and other days you get a red ring.

icarus212001

LOL...That should be quoted

if those are not Mario games then are they actually called MARIO? at very least call them nintendo tennis ot nintendo kart and put all of nintendos characters in it, calling it mario kart or mario tennis is just as much milkage as ratchet and clank, after all isnt milkage something a company does to con some extra money from its clients? if simply naming the game mario, even though it has nothing to do with mario games simply to sell more units, then its milking

st1ka

Well, milkage doesn't really matter that much then. If the sole factor is the name, then that's not really a big deal.

I would say milkage would be a lot of similar games and spin-offs released. I don't consider the sports games or Smash Bros. spin-offs, because they're not at all similar to the main series, they just feature the characters. It's like calling Brawl a Metal Gear or Sonic spin-off.

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"] the reason why i dont buy those games is because im tired of them, im tired of the characters of the plots, im just tired, i want something new and different. Thats it, if you think thats fanboyism then fine call me a fanboy, id rather be a fanboy by your standards then to be a stagnant gamer and play the same thing over and over for 20 years,st1ka

Weird, I didn't know that Super Mario Galaxy was the same thing it was back on the NES... or that Metroid Prime 3 is the same thing it was back on the NES either.... and here I thought Zelda had come a long way from its over head playing style (or the ever less popular side scroller it was in the second one). Each one of those games changes from game to game and adds more to it and builds upon what was already there. Yea I'll say Mario Party is just about the same damn game every time but oh well, not much can be done there. Even Mario Kart has changed drastically since it was first rolled out on the SNES so many years ago and its come a long ways from its N64 days. To say each of these games is the same as it was from the get go is just being blind to the changes they go through, I wouldn't even say each Metal Gear game was the same, or that every Final Fantasy does the same thing. The only series I really saw do the same thing was Halo and I never touched the first 2 because I wasn't impressed at all and only got the third one because everyone I know plays it and I wanted to join in.

Do your research and actually try playing these titles before you go claiming they haven't changed and are the same thing over and over again. All games change as they go along and sometimes its for better, sometimes its for worse, but very rarely are sequels the same exact thing as a previous entry into any series.

I have been trying to maintain a rational conversation with you, but your snide comments are starting to anger me, look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_games

how can you say you are not tired of the characters? othen then metroid and the franchises that nintendo has abandoned or recently introduced im sick of nintendo characters, its just milkage after milkage

Am I the only one who realises that people arent forcing you to buy these games? I think the number of FPS's on the Xbox and the 360 is milkage. Not by MS, but still milkage of some kind. Just like all those GTA clones like True Crime or Godfather or Saint's Row. And don't forgetthe 8-16 bit era with all the platformers.

Milkage happens. Don't like it, don't support it by buying the games that result.

And I think you are forgetting the fact that games like Mario Strikers Charged are actually good. And it makes more sense to make a series of sports games using the abilities of Mario characters. The draw of a game like Strikers is that these abilities exist in order to add extra gameplay elements to the games and make a fun, arcadey game of football, like Sega Soccer Slam. Ever heard of Mega Man Soccer? Capcom have done the same thing at times. Crash Team Racing is another example.

If you want to blame someone for milkage, blame the EA sport series. Look at Pro Evo 2008 for the Wii. They did something unique. All FIFA 08 did was add Mii support, which was pretty lame. How many EA Sports games just have updated rosters? Even Football Manager series games or Championship Manager add a hell of a lot of extras each time compared to FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

if those are not Mario games then are they actually called MARIO? at very least call them nintendo tennis ot nintendo kart and put all of nintendos characters in it, calling it mario kart or mario tennis is just as much milkage as ratchet and clank, after all isnt milkage something a company does to con some extra money from its clients? if simply naming the game mario, even though it has nothing to do with mario games simply to sell more units, then its milking

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Well, milkage doesn't really matter that much then. If the sole factor is the name, then that's not really a big deal.

I would say milkage would be a lot of similar games and spin-offs released. I don't consider the sports games or Smash Bros. spin-offs, because they're not at all similar to the main series, they just feature the characters. It's like calling Brawl a Metal Gear or Sonic spin-off.

i dont consider brawl nor kart milking, i do consider the party, tennis, golf and strikers games milking

i dont consider brawl nor kart milking, i do consider the party, tennis, golf and strikers games milking

st1ka

What's the difference? I'd say Tennis, etc. are more justified than Kart.

Am I the only one who realises that people arent forcing you to buy these games? I think the number of FPS's on the Xbox and the 360 is milkage. Not by MS, but still milkage of some kind. Just like all those GTA clones like True Crime or Godfather or Saint's Row. And don't forgetthe 8-16 bit era with all the platformers.

Milkage happens. Don't like it, don't support it by buying the games that result.

Quofan

my problem is milkage of the franchise, you cant say that all those FPS of the 360 are milkage, hod do you milk a genre? i would really like to know that, finally you do know that the 360 is the console withthe most variety of games right now, right?

And I think you are forgetting the fact that games like Mario Strikers Charged are actually good. And it makes more sense to make a series of sports games using the abilities of Mario characters. The draw of a game like Strikers is that these abilities exist in order to add extra gameplay elements to the games and make a fun, arcadey game of football, like Sega Soccer Slam. Ever heard of Mega Man Soccer? Capcom have done the same thing at times. Crash Team Racing is another example.

Quofan

but why mario? why not a whole new franchise? they are milking the mario franchise, i personally prefer F-zero with Cpt. Falcon then i would with mario

If you want to blame someone for milkage, blame the EA sport series. Look at Pro Evo 2008 for the Wii. They did something unique. All FIFA 08 did was add Mii support, which was pretty lame. How many EA Sports games just have updated rosters? Even Football Manager series games or Championship Manager add a hell of a lot of extras each time compared to FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.

Quofan

i agree, sports games are milkage

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

i dont consider brawl nor kart milking, i do consider the party, tennis, golf and strikers games milking

Tsug_Ze_Wind

What's the difference? I'd say Tennis, etc. are more justified than Kart.

kart is a great game franchise tennis.... as far as im concerned it remains.... meh

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

st1ka

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

I see;

1. Mario Party franchise

2. Dr. Mario franchise

3. DDR franchise

4. Mario Tennis franchise

5. Mario & Luigi franchise

6. Mario Soccer franchise

7. Mario Kart franchise

8. NBA Street franchise

9. SSX franchise

10. Game & Watch franchise

11. Mario Vs. DK franchise

12. WarioWare franchise

13. Paper Mario franchise

14. Smash Bros. franchise

15. Mario Baseball franchise

16. Mario & Sonic franchise

Well, I was close when I guessed 15 :P

The Peach game, Itadaki Street, and Mario Hoops aren't really part of a franchise... yet.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

BubbyJello

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

I see;

1. Mario Party franchise

2. Dr. Mario franchise

3. DDR franchise

4. Mario Tennis franchise

5. Mario & Luigi franchise

6. Mario Soccer franchise

7. Mario Kart franchise

8. NBA Street franchise

9. SSX franchise

10. Game & Watch franchise

11. Mario Vs. DK franchise

12. WarioWare franchise

13. Paper Mario franchise

14. Smash Bros. franchise

15. Mario Baseball franchise

16. Mario & Sonic franchise

Well, I was close when I guessed 15 :P

The Peach game, Itadaki Street, and Mario Hoops aren't really part of a franchise... yet.

MARIO kart, MARIO baseball, MARIO soccer, MARIO party

oh yeah completly different franchises :roll:

i think you are mistaking series with franchises

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

st1ka

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

I see;

1. Mario Party franchise

2. Dr. Mario franchise

3. DDR franchise

4. Mario Tennis franchise

5. Mario & Luigi franchise

6. Mario Soccer franchise

7. Mario Kart franchise

8. NBA Street franchise

9. SSX franchise

10. Game & Watch franchise

11. Mario Vs. DK franchise

12. WarioWare franchise

13. Paper Mario franchise

14. Smash Bros. franchise

15. Mario Baseball franchise

16. Mario & Sonic franchise

Well, I was close when I guessed 15 :P

The Peach game, Itadaki Street, and Mario Hoops aren't really part of a franchise... yet.

MARIO kart, MARIO baseball, MARIO soccer, MARIO party

oh yeah completly different franchises :roll:

He doesn't seem to understand what a franchise is. :lol:

kart is a great game franchise tennis.... as far as im concerned it remains.... meh

st1ka

So it's the quality. Fair enough I guess.

Though, my bro prefers Mario Golf to Brawl. :P

[QUOTE="st1ka"]kart is a great game franchise tennis.... as far as im concerned it remains.... meh

Tsug_Ze_Wind

So it's the quality. Fair enough I guess.

Though, my bro prefers Mario Golf to Brawl. :P

its quality and the fact that sometimes its just rehashing, but kart and super smash brother are still fun... so not milking as far as im concerned

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

st1ka

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

I see;

1. Mario Party franchise

2. Dr. Mario franchise

3. DDR franchise

4. Mario Tennis franchise

5. Mario & Luigi franchise

6. Mario Soccer franchise

7. Mario Kart franchise

8. NBA Street franchise

9. SSX franchise

10. Game & Watch franchise

11. Mario Vs. DK franchise

12. WarioWare franchise

13. Paper Mario franchise

14. Smash Bros. franchise

15. Mario Baseball franchise

16. Mario & Sonic franchise

Well, I was close when I guessed 15 :P

The Peach game, Itadaki Street, and Mario Hoops aren't really part of a franchise... yet.

MARIO kart, MARIO baseball, MARIO soccer, MARIO party

oh yeah completly different franchises :roll:

i think you are mistaking series with franchises

Are you telling me Mario Kart and Paper Mario are the same franchise, even though they are completely different genres? Mario is a name, not a franchise.

Just because you have the same name as someone, doesn't mean you are relatives.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

In that list, there is games from like 15 different franchises.

BubbyJello

lets see, i see the mario franchise, the SSX, DDR, game and watch, NBA, Warioware and Super smash brothers

mmm...... 15 you say?

I see;

1. Mario Party franchise

2. Dr. Mario franchise

3. DDR franchise

4. Mario Tennis franchise

5. Mario & Luigi franchise

6. Mario Soccer franchise

7. Mario Kart franchise

8. NBA Street franchise

9. SSX franchise

10. Game & Watch franchise

11. Mario Vs. DK franchise

12. WarioWare franchise

13. Paper Mario franchise

14. Smash Bros. franchise

15. Mario Baseball franchise

16. Mario & Sonic franchise

Well, I was close when I guessed 15 :P

The Peach game, Itadaki Street, and Mario Hoops aren't really part of a franchise... yet.

MARIO kart, MARIO baseball, MARIO soccer, MARIO party

oh yeah completly different franchises :roll:

i think you are mistaking series with franchises

Are you telling me Mario Kart and Paper Mario are the same franchise, even though they are completely different genres? Mario is a name, not a franchise.

Just because you have the same name as someone, doesn't mean you are relatives.

like i said you are mistaking genre and series with franchise, its like saying that a star wars toy and a star wars TV show arent part of the star wars franchise

Do you know what milkage is? It is where a company makes you pay for pratically everything that other consoles just give you standard.

Last gen the PS2 was the worst offender. First off you needed a freaken multitap, then you needed memory cards. To play online early on in the PS2s life you needed to buy a network adaptor.

Stuff like that is milkage. Nintendo seems to be leading the way with that. The stupid driving wheel, the wii-blaster, and a bunch of other junk you shouldn't need.

like i said you are mistaking genre and series with franchise, its like saying that a star wars toy and a star wars TV show arent part of the star wars franchise

st1ka

This toy is from the Mario Kart franchise, is it not?

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

i dont consider brawl nor kart milking, i do consider the party, tennis, golf and strikers games milking

Tsug_Ze_Wind

What's the difference? I'd say Tennis, etc. are more justified than Kart.

Mario Tennis was an 8.9 game.....If done today it would be AAA. What more does someone want?

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

like i said you are mistaking genre and series with franchise, its like saying that a star wars toy and a star wars TV show arent part of the star wars franchise

BubbyJello

This toy is from the Mario Kart franchise, is it not?

The mario franchise you mean

Do you know what milkage is? It is where a company makes you pay for pratically everything that other consoles just give you standard.

Last gen the PS2 was the worst offender. First off you needed a freaken multitap, then you needed memory cards. To play online early on in the PS2s life you needed to buy a network adaptor.

Stuff like that is milkage. Nintendo seems to be leading the way with that. The stupid driving wheel, the wii-blaster, and a bunch of other junk you shouldn't need.

Wasdie

Urrm yeah but you don't need the wheel or the blaster, plus the wheel is free with Mario Kart so I see no harm in that.

MS is the worst offender this gen, you have to pay for Xbox Live, and for a wireless adaptor, the other 2 consoles have built in Wifi.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Do you know what milkage is? It is where a company makes you pay for pratically everything that other consoles just give you standard.

Last gen the PS2 was the worst offender. First off you needed a freaken multitap, then you needed memory cards. To play online early on in the PS2s life you needed to buy a network adaptor.

Stuff like that is milkage. Nintendo seems to be leading the way with that. The stupid driving wheel, the wii-blaster, and a bunch of other junk you shouldn't need.

bobbetybob

Urrm yeah but you don't need the wheel or the blaster, plus the wheel is free with Mario Kart so I see no harm in that.

MS is the worst offender this gen, you have to pay for Xbox Live, and for a wireless adaptor, the other 2 consoles have built in Wifi.

wheter or not it is the worst offender i dont know but microsoft sure is milking people this gen, luckily i dont need the wifi adapter.

BTW what do you mean by wireless adaptor?

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

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one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

st1ka

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

st1ka

so...cod 4 isnt the 4th game? (actually its the like sixth, if you count all the console exclusives like Big Red 1)

but nintendo has a way of selling you the exact same game over the past 20years and making people think its somehow different.river_rat3117

is not the same as this, no matter how much you'd like to believe it:

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

ithilgore2006

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

the problem i believe is that if we exclude metal gear and Final Fantasy none of those franchises are over 20 years

Edit:

one last thing, Halo and Cod milking? none of them have over 4 games, how is that milking? how many zeldas or marios are there by now?

ithilgore2006

huh... i excluded MGS and FF because they are milked franchises, so i wasnt going to defend them, i didnt know that there were 7 CODs like i said in a previous post. as for Halo well.... lets wait and see

nintendo keep releasing games from their key franchises because gamers want it

who would turn down the likes of super mario galaxy?!

even games like mario party have a demand because they sell

and every year nintendo release new IPs to expand their list of franchises

they're never afraid to try something new