12 years later, Deus Ex- Still the best game ever?

[QUOTE="Easyle"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I think you misspelled Homeworld.

Phoenix534

I'm pretty sure the correct spelling is X-COM.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Deus Ex was never the best game ever since there is no such thing.

In order for it to be the best game ever it has to do everything right, and it doesn't. I like the game a ton and rank it pretty high, but the combat was s**t. I think the game is one of those games that came out at the right time and did a lot of things that no other games were doing at the time. It also gave us a glimpse of was was possible in the gaming medium. For that it gets it's props. But best game ever? Get the f**k outta here.

People who go around proclaiming things as the best ever have no effing idea what the best of anything is.It's one of the problems with gaming, people put too much stuff on a pedestal and won't ever bring it down.

dracolich55

It's a fantastically idiotic assumption to make and it's usually made by people who have way too much affection for their own opinion.

There is no such thing as the "best "..." ever",but Deus Ex is one of my fav games I ever played,one of the rare cases where a game passes the test of time perfectly.I love all Deus Ex games(yep,even Invisible War),but with no doubt,first Deus Ex is the best for its gameplay mechanics that were made 10 years ago,but still are more advanced than many modern ones...

Deus Ex and complex does not compute.

Pretty simple game.

Loved the first one, but HR is waay better. I liked the boss fights too, why so much hate. :cry:

Adam Jensen never asked for this thread anyway, so why bother?

Replaying it at friends a bit. I love the whole feel of it. I get nostalgic when i hear the music and voice acting. I hate to be one of those "games were better in the ol days" but theres so much personality in the game as well. Gameplay holds up well, though the polish is terrible.

Most likely not. It's my favorite game of all time though. No other game has impressed me so much during its first playthrough as Deus Ex in 2000, though to be fair, I played System Shock 2 after DE, so my perception of what has DE brought to gaming world was innaccurate.

That said, I liked DE a lot. At the time, I was slowly transitioning from shooters to RPGs and DE simply nailed the right balance between them for me back then - I did not want a simple shooter anymore, but also, I was not completely into fullfledged RPGs yet, despite some experience with them (Fallouts). And DE was a really nice compromise between the two. Not only it was a decent action / stealth game - though of course, there were better purely action and purely stealth games -, but it also offered me enough options to tweak and level up my character and make it unique - though again, pure RPGs tend to do that better.

Of course, its best feature was its design focused on multiple paths which required different skills and abilities and even though such design was to some deree present in other games, mostly RPGs, before, Deus Ex really handled this aspect exceptionally well and given how it was an FPS game, the perception of freedom was much more immersive.

As for the rest of the stuff such as story, characters, choices and consequences... Well, I have never put too much emphasis on them in my overall assessments of games, because their perceptions are always extremely subjective and it would be possible to argue forever, whether something is unique / cliche / boring / good paced / consistent / deep / multidimensional / - insert other other wannabe intellectual criteria - or not. However, personally I enjoyed it all a lot and I think that they were pretty good for its time and genre. I especially liked how the popular conspiracies were mixed in the story and how subtly were some of the choices outlined - it was not the typical pick A or B in your face dialogue menu -. Though to be fair, one nitpick must be mentioned - voice acting in DE was sometimes hilarious.

So, to sum up, for me, Deus Ex was kinda like jack of all trades - master of none, but it was a pretty good jack and given how few such jacks there are, I really fell in love with that one.

I hope for the next DX they bring back skill on top of augs, and manual melee.

I tried Deus Ex, got killed quickly and uninstalled it. Crap game for me :P

nameless12345

Uber rage quit. Hardcore man, you even uninstalled the game.

True, but that doesn't change the fact the first still had more options boss fights wise than HR.dracolich55

In my humble opinion Morrowind is the greatest game ever. Followed very closely by Skyrim, Windwaker and Super Mario Bros 3

You misspelled Metal Gear Solid 3.

God, spell check people!

In my humble opinion Morrowind is the greatest game ever. Followed very closely by Skyrim, Windwaker and Super Mario Bros 3

vtoshkatur

Morrowind for me personally I just love because of the setting and lore. But as a game it's quite far from the best. But the amazing world just makes me forget about everything else. I love the music as well. I wish Elder Scrolls game go a bit weirder next time, but seeing as it's such a huge franchise now I doubt it will ever go back to such an amazing setting.

[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Hell, no. While it did offer more paths, the combat sucks and the game was far too unbalanced. Also HR has a far superior story. The boss fights in the first game sucked as well.texasgoldrush

I really wanna smack texas sometimes.

No fvck you can't kill story important NPC's. What if Sheperd could just smoke Captain Anderson at the beginning? Joker?

Use your head.

Why are the endings in every Deus games so damn crappy? Other than that , yes really good game(s)

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="dracolich55"] At least the bosses in the first had choices, lol. you had like 4 oppurtunities to kill Anne Navarre for example and you didnt even have to kill her in the end anyways.MLBknights58

I really wanna smack texas sometimes.

No fvck you can't kill story important NPC's. What if Sheperd could just smoke Captain Anderson at the beginning? Joker?

Use your head.

Why are the endings in every Deus games so damn crappy? Other than that , yes really good game(s)

lucky_star

Nah. Resident Evil 4 claimed that title and still holds it.

You misspelled Metal Gear Solid 3.

God, spell check people!

SPYDER0416

MGS 2 > MGS 3

Hey guys, I recently came across an article http://www.retrocollect.com/Articles/deus-ex-still-the-best-game-ever.html

And I have to say.....

I completely agree, Deus Ex is the PINNACLE of choice in game play, I have played it like over 20 times and I still discover new things and new ways to play. People always talk about the Half Lifes, the Zelda's, The marios, the Halos, the Uncharteds, the Mass effects, etc but yet people seem to dismiss this masterpiece over more high profile games.

You can literally play any way you want. Deus ex is a shooter, a platformer, a stealth game, an RPG, etc You can literally do ANYTHING you want and every choice branches off into another set of choices both gameplay and plot wise. This includes killing a few major characters early on. If you have not purchased this game yet, DO IT NOW. I don't care if your not a PC gamer, if you don't like shooters, if your a graphic whore that only plays current gen games, there is no reason not to buy this game. ..

Speaking of graphics hears a neat guide I found to maximize graphics and performance on Deus Ex: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1235278

So what say you, System Warriors?

dracolich55

Halo CE or Kotor.. pick one. :P

That said, Deus Ex is up there.

Halo CE or Kotor.. pick one. :P

That said, Deus Ex is up there.

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] His humor is augmented.Am_Confucius

lmao that was so funny. I replayed it like 10 times. Some reason that face and laugh reminds me of beavis and butt head.

I didn't even really like Deus Ex when I played it, so nope.

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] His humor is augmented.finalfantasy94

lmao that was so funny. I replayed it like 10 times. Some reason that face and laugh reminds me of beavis and butt head.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] However, you have to kill her, and if you "don't" the game will say you killed her anyway. Same with Grunther. Hell, also a huge problem is invincible NPCs which makes the game less free than you think. Wanna kill Manderley or Tracer Tong, too bad, we only let you kill them when we allow you to. Hell, Invisible War got rid of the invincible NPCs, instead set up scenarios where you can't gun them down, such as weapon free zones. And really the only boss in HR that should have been sparable is Fedorva in Picus.DrTrafalgarLaw

I really wanna smack texas sometimes.

No fvck you can't kill story important NPC's. What if Sheperd could just smoke Captain Anderson at the beginning? Joker?

Use your head.

Halo CE or Kotor.. pick one. :P

That said, Deus Ex is up there.

SecretPolice

Personally, I think Dark Souls is the best game of all time, but I'll have to give this one a try. :)Klopono

Nothing beats the God of War saga for me. Can't blame me, I love the games.

[QUOTE="Klopono"]Personally, I think Dark Souls is the best game of all time, but I'll have to give this one a try. :)Ravenshout

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"][QUOTE="Klopono"]Personally, I think Dark Souls is the best game of all time, but I'll have to give this one a try. :)dracolich55