$150 Xbone elite controller still needs AA batteries

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#151 tormentos
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@tormentos: You can buy rechargeable batteries that are not from MS. You need to relax.

Yeah and when the argument is that i can't buy any other brand but MS you will have a point.

My point is not about buying them you can buy which ever brand you like,my argument is they SHOULD come build in the xbox one controller cost the same as sony controller,sony's one has a light,touch pad,speaker and rechargeable batteries come on man tell me MS can't afford to put some rechargeable AA and still make a profit.?

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#152 SolidTy
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@darkangel115: Those already exist, they are scuf controllers.

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#153 lundy86_4  Online
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@tormentos said:

that is the point 2 weeks and buy new ones,2 more weeks and buy new ones.

I was correcting this statement. I can only infer that you are talking about batteries, because reading your train-wreck posts is often a chore.

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#154  Edited By oflow
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@lamprey263: I read it in some article that breaks down the components of the controller. I can't remember where might have been in the official Xbox forums. I I researched it though because I was pissed about having to buy my second replacement controller.

Drift is pretty common for ppl that play a lot of shooters since sprint is mapped to the stick on the regular controllers.

If worse comes to worse you can at least remap the sprint to a different button.

But I actually looked at pics of the internals and the piece is metal on the elite. On the regular control its plastic. I actually took mine apart trying to fix it so I know that's the issue in my case.

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#155 kingtito
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@tormentos said:
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You're an idiot. Would a cell phone last a few weeks on alkaline batteries? You're using lame examples for devices that WOULDN'T work with regular batteries because of the power consumption. You'd have to change batteries everyday if they used them in cell phones. This was one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever heard.

On 2 AA batteries the XOne controller can last a few weeks with normal use.

Cows are the only idiots I've ever seen put down having options.

My consoles last for fu**ing years not freaking weeks ass,that is the point 2 weeks and buy new ones,2 more weeks and buy new ones.

You are the idiot,MS should fu**ing include batteries is 2015 not 2005,the sole reason they do that shit is so they can bend you over for their over prices brand ones with charger.

Just like they did on xbox 360.

I had an xbox 360 you fool and is not funny having to go out at 11PM to get some damn batteries because you ran out.

Options my ass you fool,is not using AA the real problem you blind and butthurt fanboy is not |INCLUDING| a freaking cheap pair that can be recharge.

Is a freaking joke the PS4 controller has a light,speaker,a touch pad,rumble and rechargeable battery and cost the same as the xbox one controller which lack light,speaker,rechargeable batteries or touch pad.

That shit should cost $35 dollars at most.

You xbox fanboys are the worse,no wonder MS really bended you over last gen and from what i see it will continue.

Are you trying to say your batteries last for years? We're talking about batteries you moron not the actual hardware that uses them. Damn dude can you even read?

MS doesn't need to include batteries. They gave you the choice so instead of forcing something as trivial as rechargeable installed batteries, they let you decide. Something cows just aren't use to having.

I highly doubt you played your 360 enough to wear about your batteries.

Who said they needed to include any kind of rechargeable battery? They include 2 AA batteries which will last a couple of weeks. Stop thinking you're entitled to anything loser and stop trying to pretend you were going to get the XOne much less the elite controller. Why are you even in this thread El Tormented? You're not a gamer and you're not going to buy the XOne.

Hahahahah a light hahahahaha you're proud of the controller light that sucks up a lot of the battery? Hahahahah pathetic is just pathetic hahahaha oh and please include some more gimmicks to be proud of El Tormented hahahah

Calls lems the worst yet paid $40 for a demo only to fork out another 60 for the actual game hahahahaha ummm ok El Tormented hahahaha

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#156 FoxbatAlpha
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Lol, Cows scared of a controller. I would take AAs over that "on sale from china" battery that the DS4 houses.

Plus I already own this docking station that will work with my Elite.

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#157  Edited By lamprey263
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@oflow: cool, hope you're right because I'm leaning on getting one next week, not sure yet, I think I'll at least wait to see what people have to say first

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#158  Edited By Livecommander
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@tushar172787: better than stealing batteries out the cable romote when run. Cud name more common situations? The ps4 can be set to turn off by itself. Plus who the f cant charge it 4 it runs out. You go ahead and keep taking trips to the store for batteries tho.

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#159 Livecommander
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@chikenfriedrice: you hate plugging in your controller. What does it really stop you from doing ? Specially if your not literally sit on your ass 5 hours straight. A ten min charge last more than a alone. And it doesnt have to be plugged i the system. But ok

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#160 mems_1224
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Man, this thread already has more posts than most PS4 hype threads. Cows are pathetic. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill lol

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#161 chikenfriedrice
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@Livecommander: Like I said the cable is so short and I don't like to be 2 feet away from my 55" TV. It takes much longer than 10 minutes to get a proper charge. The battery swap takes 10 seconds and back to business. I use rechargeables and always have a spare set on the ready. I don't see the problem here at all.

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#162 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@MonsieurX: I can just plug in my DS4 and play while it's charging. Your point is shit.

For $25 more you could get a second controller and have a second controller for other to play with as well as negate the battery.

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#163 MonsieurX
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@MonsieurX: I can just plug in my DS4 and play while it's charging. Your point is shit.

For $25 more you could get a second controller and have a second controller for other to play with as well as negate the battery.

Your point was about how much batteries are expensive while they're not.

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@FoxbatAlpha: meanwhile i simply plug usb for atleast 5 mins whenever its time in socket less than a feet from me. And it turns off if its idle for 5 mins. And that 5 min charge lasts a hour. Sounds a hell of lot more convenient than you battery station. Go contine getting your negatives and positives aligned lol hopefully a battery doesnt fall and roll under your bed lol

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#166  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@MonsieurX said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@MonsieurX: I can just plug in my DS4 and play while it's charging. Your point is shit.

For $25 more you could get a second controller and have a second controller for other to play with as well as negate the battery.

Your point was about how much batteries are expensive while they're not.

Your new point is moot as well b/c my post isn't only about batteries being expensive.

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#167 Livecommander
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@chikenfriedrice: i didnt notice i ranted on the same person twice lol you cud ignore the last reply lol usb over everything still lol

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@FoxbatAlpha: meanwhile i simply plug usb for atleast 5 mins whenever its time in socket less than a feet from me. And it turns off if its idle for 5 mins. And that 5 min charge lasts a hour. Sounds a hell of lot more convenient than you battery station. Go contine getting your negatives and positives aligned lol hopefully a battery doesnt fall and roll under your bed lol

WTF? My controller sits there when it is not in use and charges. When I play it is fully charged every time. I never killed a charge by playing so long. You need to screw your head on straight.

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#169 silversix_
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Wow so many people defending AA batteries... Don't you understand what's happening here? The motherfawking controller is ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS and it does not include rechargeable batteries. It doesn't matter if its AA, AAA or another kind of rechargeable batteries. What matter is for $150 f*cking dollars, it should and must include a pair of quality rechargeable batteries.

the scuff versions go for over 200, aren't even wireless, have less features, and lower quality. 150 is a steal. Oh and they are pretty much sold out already, glad i pre-ordered mine months ago

It being sold out means something? CoD is also selling out and its a POS of series... A bunch of dumbasses will buy this controller in hope of their "skills" improving with this Made in Chine product that will explode in under a year. Easy milkage.

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#170  Edited By BassMan
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@silversix_ said:
@darkangel115 said:
@silversix_ said:

Wow so many people defending AA batteries... Don't you understand what's happening here? The motherfawking controller is ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS and it does not include rechargeable batteries. It doesn't matter if its AA, AAA or another kind of rechargeable batteries. What matter is for $150 f*cking dollars, it should and must include a pair of quality rechargeable batteries.

the scuff versions go for over 200, aren't even wireless, have less features, and lower quality. 150 is a steal. Oh and they are pretty much sold out already, glad i pre-ordered mine months ago

It being sold out means something? CoD is also selling out and its a POS of series... A bunch of dumbasses will buy this controller in hope of their "skills" improving with this Made in Chine product that will explode in under a year. Easy milkage.

By your logic.... The PS4 can also be a POS and the people who buy it are dumbasses. lol

Generally, if something sells out or sells well, there is some merit behind it.

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#171 Livecommander
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@FoxbatAlpha: *screws head back on* cool bout how long it takes for your battery to recharge? My controller sits there to when its time to charge hence why the usb cord doesnt phase anything.

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#172 silversix_
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@BassMan said:
@silversix_ said:
@darkangel115 said:
@silversix_ said:

Wow so many people defending AA batteries... Don't you understand what's happening here? The motherfawking controller is ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS and it does not include rechargeable batteries. It doesn't matter if its AA, AAA or another kind of rechargeable batteries. What matter is for $150 f*cking dollars, it should and must include a pair of quality rechargeable batteries.

the scuff versions go for over 200, aren't even wireless, have less features, and lower quality. 150 is a steal. Oh and they are pretty much sold out already, glad i pre-ordered mine months ago

It being sold out means something? CoD is also selling out and its a POS of series... A bunch of dumbasses will buy this controller in hope of their "skills" improving with this Made in Chine product that will explode in under a year. Easy milkage.

By your logic.... The PS4 is a POS and the people who buy it are dumbasses. lol

PS4 IS a PoS compared to a pc. It is not a PoS compared to its direct competition. True story.

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#173 remiks00
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I think it's better that it uses removable batteries. My PS4 controllers dies fast as ****.

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#174 foxhound_fox
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Better than a non-removeable battery pack that lasts 6-10 hours.

Unless of course they somehow tapped into the magic that Nintendo applied to their Wii U Pro controller.

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@silversix_ said:
@BassMan said:
@silversix_ said:
@darkangel115 said:
@silversix_ said:

Wow so many people defending AA batteries... Don't you understand what's happening here? The motherfawking controller is ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS and it does not include rechargeable batteries. It doesn't matter if its AA, AAA or another kind of rechargeable batteries. What matter is for $150 f*cking dollars, it should and must include a pair of quality rechargeable batteries.

the scuff versions go for over 200, aren't even wireless, have less features, and lower quality. 150 is a steal. Oh and they are pretty much sold out already, glad i pre-ordered mine months ago

It being sold out means something? CoD is also selling out and its a POS of series... A bunch of dumbasses will buy this controller in hope of their "skills" improving with this Made in Chine product that will explode in under a year. Easy milkage.

By your logic.... The PS4 is a POS and the people who buy it are dumbasses. lol

PS4 IS a PoS compared to a pc. It is not a PoS compared to its direct competition. True story.

I know, I just couldn't resist because I know you like to side with PS4 and you love your Bloodborne. Both consoles are indeed a POS compared to PC.

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@FoxbatAlpha: *screws head back on* cool bout how long it takes for your battery to recharge? My controller sits there to when its time to charge hence why the usb cord doesnt phase anything.

I never timed it. Like I said. It charges when it is not in use. You never will kill a full charge playing too long.

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#177  Edited By HavocV3
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People still trying to spin AA batteries as bad? Lol? If you were forced to use nonrechargeable AAs then yeah...that would be the fucking worst.

The DS4 has some shit-tier 1,000 mah battery that lasts like 7 hours. I'd toss my DS4 any day of the week just so I could have a new one that accepts my rechargeable AAs.

These are amazing. They beat the DS4 battery in every way imaginable.

I mean yeah, MS should probably include one of their battery packs at the very least since this is a $150 controller. But if people want to use their own batteries then they can still do that too.

Just get the **** out of here with these terrible built-in batteries. I want a wireless controller that can stay wireless 100% of the time.

Options > no options.

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#178  Edited By HavocV3
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@MonsieurX: I can just plug in my DS4 and play while it's charging. Your point is shit.

For $25 more you could get a second controller and have a second controller for other to play with as well as negate the battery.

And I can just swap 2 AA batteries in <15 seconds and stay 100% wireless with my 360 controller?

Pray tell, what's actually better?

Getting a far superior charge (25-30 hours) + full wireless or having to tether yourself to your console whenever your battery gets low? Do you know how much more obnoxious this gets when you have a wireless headset that uses a built-in battery? Either you run two cords from your console or you rotate them when one gets just enough charge.

I'd take built-in batteries for that thing too if I could. My X32s used AAAs and it was ezpz just swapping batteries and never having to worry about charging cords, ever.

Btw. Split-screen is almost completely dead this generation so a 2nd controller is more expensive and pretty much useless. Then there's the fact that I can use my rechargeable batteries in other appliances as well. (remotes, keyboard, mouse + my worktunes headset)

It's called value.

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#179 Livecommander
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@FoxbatAlpha: You have a point there. Thing is nobody plays "to long" less there couch potatoes. Intermissions have to occur lol. I will say your contriller situation sounds convient tho

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#180 Livecommander
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@HavocV3: actually they both have no option for one you need aa and the other you cant have. So they both do t have options in your reguard

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#181 glez13
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@HavocV3: actually they both have no option for one you need aa and the other you cant have. So they both do t have options in your reguard

One has AA, rechargeable AA, play and charge kit and wired. All of which are easy to change when the battery finally dies.

The other one has an internal rechargeable battery and wired. You have to go through hoops to change the battery when it finally dies or simply throw the controller away and buy a new one(hopefully it's not like the DS3 that doesn't work wired once the battery dies).

Stop being ridiculous.

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#182  Edited By Legend002
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This may be a non-issue for most but the fact remains. AA is a far cheaper manufacturing option and for a $150 controller that's sad.

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#183 Livecommander
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When does dualshock batteries die ? Besides short circuit if its over 7 years then you ridiculous. The batteries over that time span wud cost more. Also im pretty sure there charging accessories you can buy for the ps4 aswell

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#184 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@HavocV3: Value?

$160 controller uses batteries in 2015.

$10 cord vs $35-$50 battery pack and batteries.

It's preference. I would rather deal with plugging in my controller while I play if it's going dead b/c, to me, it's easier than taking out batteries from the controller, taking out batteries from the cartridge pack, putting batteries back in both.

Am I lazy? Maybe....but I found a way that works for me and I'm sure many others do the same....so it doesn't really matter.

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#185 Douevenlift_bro
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@BassMan said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

The users defending this would also like AA batteries for their cellphones I'm guessing? Lol fanboys...

Mobile phones don't use AA batteries because of the form factor. I always prefer to buy a phone that has a removable battery. That way you can have a backup battery if it dies. This is good for heavy phone usage and if you are hiking, camping or in a remote area. Also, you can just replace the battery when it no longer charges instead of sending in the phone.

Then by that statement, MS should provide you a recharge battery pack. Thanks for supporting my point.

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#186  Edited By Bruin1986
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You would seriously prefer a fixed, internal rechargeable battery forcing you to replace the entire controller in a few years once it stops holding a charge?

This is the best option IMO. You can get that rechargeable kit for like $15 and it works great, plus it has significantly longer battery life than the PS4 controller.

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#187 coasterguy65
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I'll take my $12 set off 4 rechargeable batteries, and a charger that allows me to play my Xbox controller for 20+ hours over having to buy an extra DS4 controller for $60 any day, and only getting 6 hours out of a charge.

Nothing sucks worse than having the kids forget to put the DS4s on the charger, and only finding out about it after sitting down for a few hours of The Witcher 3. It sucks sitting in front of a TV with a 10 foot USB cord plugged into the PS4, or a power block. Hoping that no one trips over that cord and pulls the console from it's perch in the entertainment center.

I hope MS keeps the AA batteries in their controllers forever. It takes me all of 30 seconds to swap out a set of rechargeable that are already charged, and get back to playing. The ultimate in simplicity if you ask me.

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@harrygooch: I don't need to. I have a multitude of rechargeable batteries around my house. This isn't the 90's.

Trying too hard? You're the one suggesting some inane difficulty in replacing two AA batteries? Who stores batteries in the garage?

would be so much better to just plug it in and recharge it wouldn't it? too bad microsoft signed some secret deal with duracell to **** over the consumer. and you continue to blindly follow them into the fire pit. good luck.

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@Bruin1986 said:

You would seriously prefer a fixed, internal rechargeable battery forcing you to replace the entire controller in a few years once it stops holding a charge?

This is the best option IMO. You can get that rechargeable kit for like $15 and it works great, plus it has significantly longer battery life than the PS4 controller.

Your logic isn't welcome here at Cowspot. Your only option is to LOL at Xbone and praise whatever Sony is doing. It doesn't matter if we trashed certain things in the past. Pay for online, sales, resolution, indies, COD marketing rights, Digital Foundry, our stance on all of these things has changed because they favor the PS4 now.

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@harrygooch: Are you high?

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#191  Edited By harrygooch
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@darkangel115 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@harrygooch: That would give a seriously small charge. Furthermore, it's annoying.

From my experience, people who say plug it in, clearly don't have kids and pets. You want to run a wire for your dog to run past and rip the controller out of your hand lol or even worse have your kid trip over it? nah I'll pass. Wires are so last gen

good thing about the ps4 is when you turn it off it continues to charge. maybe MS will do that next gen.

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@harrygooch: The PS4 charges the controller when it's in standby. As does the Xbone, if you have the play and charge kit.

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@harrygooch said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@harrygooch: I don't need to. I have a multitude of rechargeable batteries around my house. This isn't the 90's.

Trying too hard? You're the one suggesting some inane difficulty in replacing two AA batteries? Who stores batteries in the garage?

would be so much better to just plug it in and recharge it wouldn't it? too bad microsoft signed some secret deal with duracell to **** over the consumer. and you continue to blindly follow them into the fire pit. good luck.

That would only make sense if Duracell batteries were the only ones that worked in the Xbox One controller. This is such a non issue its ridiculous. But hey, there are people here that claimed using a screw driver to change memory cards in the new 3DS was some crazy thing. Now changing batteries is too hard. What are Sony fans gonna do when they have to change the thermal paste on their PS4 CPU's? Just buy a new PS4 instead of fixing it themselves? That sounds a lot like Lems last gen with the RROD. But so does pay for online, bragging about resolution and having COD marketing rights but those are things the PS4 and Sony do now so it's ok.

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#194  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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I'd rather be able to put my own good quality rechargeable batteries in it than be forced to use crap ones that last only a few hours like the DS4.

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#195 harrygooch
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@GoldenElementXL: duracell batterries come with the xbox one. and 360. google it, they partnered up to screw you over. have fun.

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#196 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@FastRobby said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@FastRobby said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

So why not include the play and charge kit with the controller then?

Because that's choice is with the user. They include AA batteries with the controller... If they would include the P&C kit, then they could've made it directly inside the controller. They choose not to do that, and include AA batteries with each controller.

Well i'm so glad they allowed me the option to pay them more money. How generous Microsoft is. Not just any company will make it so you have to pay more for standard items. Thank you microsoft. Thank you so much. Just for that I'll pay them $200 for the elite controller because they deserve it.

Yeah I rather have a controller where I can't change the battery, and that it lasts for 3 whole hours. How lucky I am...

But the play and charge kit battery pack can be replaced. What's your excuse now?

That the battery still dies after multiple recharges, and that you have to buy a new one. So PS4 standard battery only lasts for 4-5 hours, can you image what it does after multiple recharges (which you have to do anyway since they go down so quickly). It will only last for a few hours anymore, until it completely dies, and then you have to buy a new one... Those aren't excuses I'm looking for, Microsoft did the right thing doing it like this. You might not agree with it, that's your choice, but don't call the reasons why they do it "excuses", that's just childish.

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#197  Edited By raugutcon
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@BigShotSmoov007:

"bu, bu, bu, but you can purchase a LONGER CORD for your PoS4 controller when it runs out of battery " ..... yeah right, what the **** is the point on having a WIRELESS CONTROLLER that after 4 hours is ------> NO LONGER WIRELESS ?!?! ( from a PoS4 owner )

"bu, bu, bu, but I like having AN EXTRA CONTROLLER charging for when I need it " ..... hmm, let´s see ..... PoS controller is worth what ? in Mexico 990 Mex, pack of 4 rechargeable batteries + charging station = 250 Mex ...... if the math I learned at elementary school is right 250 < 990 ( from a PoS4 owner )

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#198 tushar172787
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@tushar172787: How do normal batteries not "go off". Whether it's a internal rechargeable battery or regular ones...they are going to die at some point regardless. At least with a rechargeable battery you can plug it in and play at the same time.

@Wasdie:The price of a controller after 2 years would be less than all those batteries you'd have to buy within those 2 years.

And if you get a rechargable battery pack....they're not cheap.

1. sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but a rechargeable battery pack costs 12$

2. yes, and when the battery fails, you need to get a new controller altogether.. unlike buying another battery for 5$

3. when you plug it in, it's essentially a wired controller, and you have to sit close to your TV or something to put it in the power source. the xbox controller will last you six days while the ps4 controller will last you 6 hours...

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#199 tushar172787
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@harrygooch said:
@tushar172787 said:

good, we don't want the batteries going off every 6 hours, do you?

lol, umm plug it in for 10 mins....while you're playing.

so it's a wired controller now? and you have to sit close to your TV if you want to charge them... so much for convenience

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#200 shellcase86
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@Livecommander: Like I said the cable is so short and I don't like to be 2 feet away from my 55" TV. It takes much longer than 10 minutes to get a proper charge. The battery swap takes 10 seconds and back to business. I use rechargeables and always have a spare set on the ready. I don't see the problem here at all.

FYI the controller can be plugged into any outlet, cell phone-microcharger, usb port. Pretty convenient.