$199 x360 confirmed for 09/07/08

Hasn't Sony dropped the price more than anyone to date?dsmccracken

Never as severely as this.

Didn't the PS2 drop it's price several times last gen? When was it ever desperate? Between rounds of kicking the competition's a$$?

dsmccracken

It dropped its price after it became cheaper to produce. As time passes, mass prodction of a particular product becomes less costly.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]eh, the arcade? I want the pro.Haziqonfire

I don't think so. Right now the 360 pro is $299 here in the US, but that's only until the 20 GB runs out, in which case it will be back at $349 with the 60 GB. But, if this price drop rumor is true, then the 60 GB pro will stay at $299.

Its funny how the 360 has not taken away any features and continues to add some (HDMI) and yet still drop the price.

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Hasn't Sony dropped the price more than anyone to date?gamecubepad

Never as severely as this.

This is all just rumors. So a $79 price drop is severe? The 360 made it's debut at $399 and 3 years later it might hit $299. The PS3 dropped from $599 to $499 in only 1 year. How is that not as severe?gamecubepad

The 60 gig dropped in price because it was apart of the clearance sale, which isn't a price drop. It was being replaced by another $599 model that was 80 gigs, which has only recently dropped in price--But not in only one year.

And please, by all means, just leave out the fact that the PS3 has been beating the 360 in sales. That's a pretty big factor. Also the fact that the 360 didn't have to compete with the PS3 during the first year of this generation. Now that they have to deal with a more popular PS3, they're cutting price percentages.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]eh, the arcade? I want the pro.TheDarkDisciple

I don't think so. Right now the 360 pro is $299 here in the US, but that's only until the 20 GB runs out, in which case it will be back at $349 with the 60 GB. But, if this price drop rumor is true, then the 60 GB pro will stay at $299.

that would make sense. microsoft wouldn't say the 60 gig will also cost $299, then everyone would wait until the it comes out instead of buying a 20 gig. they'll probably drop the 60 gigs price without much prior announcement.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

price drops are usually a sign of desperation

st1ka

i don't know the circunstances maybe it was, maybe it wasn't

or maybe you should learn how to read

Fair enough. Now if you'd please read the second paragraph instead of trying to fall back on, "It's a tie!"

The circumstances here still differ. Greatly.

and it didn't happen its no longer julyimprezawrx500

Sony am cry?

Pripyat

this is temporary. this sku is being discontinued and thats why its getting price drop. my best friend is a manager at gamestop and he said thats why. so dont get too happy

idk, that seems a bit TOO low.

but what ever good for microsoft. but prenium is still the best deal

[QUOTE="Pripyat"]

Sony am cry?

patrickjw333

this is temporary. this sku is being discontinued and thats why its getting price drop. my best friend is a manager at gamestop and he said thats why. so dont get too happy

The thing about the Playstation 3 is that they never price-cut the original lower-end model, but instead offered more and more features over time at the $500 price point. For people who value backwards compatibility (and extra USB ports, SACD support...), they've never been able to buy a PS3 for under $500. Itinerant_Voice

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]and it didn't happen its no longer julyloftus42

I know I was just playing with you american's writing the date different from the rest of the world

Wow! You must be an econimics major!!! How are you so smrt?diped

accountancy and administration actually... although i'll be honest i don't know the english term. what do you call 3 years in College? i know it's not a bachelor, but what is it? college degree? Major? honest question

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

price drops are usually a sign of desperation

loftus42

:roll: I thought price drops were a sign of desperation though, I mean if you have no reasoning to back up what you say - why even say it in the first place? Then again, this is SystemWars so I guess I'm just wasting my time.

or maybe you should learn how to read

just saying, the word "usually" doesn't mean everytime

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Pripyat"]

Sony am cry?

Pripyat

price drops usually are a sign of desperation

So you think Sony will follow?

actually MS are following sony's :lol: still you americans are well lucky...

I worked as an analyst way before getting my recent job and I know that MS's recent moves are a sign of desperation.PS_Family

That's great, I worked in Sony's R & D from 2000 - 2005 and I can tell you Sony is far more desperate then any company in the in dustry. See I can do it top,,,

[QUOTE="loftus42"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]and it didn't happen its no longer julyimprezawrx500

I know I was just playing with you american's writing the date different from the rest of the world

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

price drops are usually a sign of desperation

st1ka

:roll: I thought price drops were a sign of desperation though, I mean if you have no reasoning to back up what you say - why even say it in the first place? Then again, this is SystemWars so I guess I'm just wasting my time.

or maybe you should learn how to read

just saying, the word "usually" doesn't mean everytime

Then it's interesting. Why did you say it, unless you're claiming that this is the case? It was quite obviously your intent - otherwise there's no reason to make such a remark.

Thing is, pricedrops can be a sign of desperation, a "combat" maneouver, or simply a reflection of the value of a console, which will be reduced over time in normal conditions. Considering that microsoft right now seems to have managed to start being profitable *and* that they pretty much have a record for slowest price decline in consoles, it makes desperation seem quite unlikely.

Or was sony very desperate in the PS2 days? They dropped the price quicker.

Then it's interesting. Why did you say it, unless you're claiming that this is the case? It was quite obviously your intent - otherwise there's no reason to make such a remark.

Thing is, pricedrops can be a sign of desperation, a "combat" maneouver, or simply a reflection of the value of a console, which will be reduced over time in normal conditions. Considering that microsoft right now seems to have managed to start being profitable *and* that they pretty much have a record for slowest price decline in consoles, it makes desperation seem quite unlikely.

Or was sony very desperate in the PS2 days? They dropped the price quicker.

Grive

i said it because more often than not it is a sign of desperation, however i can't know for sure if it is or it isn't, to me it kinda looks like it yes

as for the PS2 days like i said before i don't have the information to say anything about it

i said it because more often than not it is a sign of desperation, however i can't know for sure if it is or it isn't, to me it kinda looks like it yes

as for the PS2 days like i said before i don't have the information to say anything about it

st1ka

Thing is, that is absolutely incorrect. An effective reduction in price (or increase in value for the same price) is the standard for pretty much every electronic consumer product out there. The Xbox360 has been reducing it's price at a pace slower than the average by a very, very large margin.

For comparison, at 2.5 years, the Ps2 had dropped to 60% of it's original price (300 to 180), while the 360 has dropped to around 75% of it's original price in the most extreme case (pro model, from 400 to 300), and that's with a slightly larger timeframe. In the case of the core and Elite, the price drops have been even smaller, though in the case of the core, value was increased too, so I guess it could be said to have the same ratio.

on the release date of Tales of Vesperia eh...

(for japan)

[QUOTE="Pripyat"]

Sony am cry?

st1ka

price drops are usually a sign of desperation

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Pripyat"]

Sony am cry?

vaderhater

price drops usually are a sign of desperation

do what? that makes no sense. do you read your posts before u submit them?

If this happens and Sony doesn't follow, it's a win for the Xbox 360Jyuusandaime

360 is dropping the price after the PS3 did recently.

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"]If this happens and Sony doesn't follow, it's a win for the Xbox 360LOXO7

360 is dropping the price after the PS3 did recently.

Sony hasn't made any price drops this year. In fact, unlike Microsoft which slashed the 20 gigabyte price to $299, Sony specifically refused to lower the price of the 40 gigabyte SKU. The 80 gigabyte being offered for $399 is just the 40 gigabyte SKU with more space, which Sony calls "adding more value to consumers".

A lot of people are waiting for a genuine price cut under $400 for the PS3.