1st stage of Best of 2008: MGS4 wins 5 awards!

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 DOES have best technical graphics. Try running Crysis on PS3 hardware, it won't look half as good as MGS4. That's the best use of hardwaref50p90

This is becoming more entertaining than what I thought :lol:

This is becoming more entertaining than what I thought :lol:

HAZE-Unit

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 DOES have best technical graphics. Try running Crysis on PS3 hardware, it won't look half as good as MGS4. That's the best use of hardwaref50p90

[QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 DOES have best technical graphics. Try running Crysis on PS3 hardware, it won't look half as good as MGS4. That's the best use of hardwarethepwninator

Yeah, that was '04. I'm sure GameSpot's editors have changed since then, not to mention videogaming standards.

The main reason why MGS4 won this award is because it is TECHNICALLY better than Crysis Warhead. The developers of MGS4 were limited with the PS3, and based on what they had, they produced something spectacular. The Crysis Warhead developers were not limited at all.

Any average PC user who tries to play Crysis Warhead will be extremely dissappointed, unless for some reason they have some monster gaming machine. And that's the reason why Crysis Warhead didn't win this award. You need to have a VERY high-end PC to play it at its maximum capability.

This award is relative, not as straightforward as people here think.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

This is becoming more entertaining than what I thought :lol:

thepwninator

MGS4 was really bad, and thats coming from an MGS fan

It doesn't deserve goty award

that should go to FallOut 3 which killed MGS4 in every aspect

The only award MGS4 should get is longest cut scene

MGS4 was really bad, and thats coming from an MGS fan

It doesn't deserve goty award

that should go to FallOut 3 which killed MGS4 in every aspect

The only award MGS4 should get is longest cut scene

Johnny_Nemesisx

It looks like the alt account trolling has started.

MGS4 was really bad, and thats coming from an MGS fan

It doesn't deserve goty award

that should go to FallOut 3 which killed MGS4 in every aspect

The only award MGS4 should get is longest cut scene

Johnny_Nemesisx

Face it MGS4 was crap

The boss fights were lame

They overused the Nano Machine concept and for some odd reason the Nano machines ruled the world and explained everything from Vamps immortality to Psycho Mantis psychic abilities

And that ending was really bad. it seemed like they threw it all together in a matter of minutes

MGS4 wasnt that good kids

Deal with it

I have a feeling it'll be more entertaining when the GOTY is announced. Stay tuned folks.

MGS4 honestly deserves to win every award it's up for except graphics. That shouldn't have happened.Chutebox

I have a feeling it'll be more entertaining when the GOTY is announced. Stay tuned folks.

one_on_one

Anything but MGS4 at this point would be like jabbing themselves in the eye with a rusty fork :lol:

I'd like to see it just for the laughs :P

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="THQ88"]

MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

fatzebra

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

and heres the thing that everyone is missing out on. it was TECHNICAL graphics. like this guy said on a pc game it's easy to future proof your game. but with a console they're limited, MGS4 really pushed the envelope in terms of techinical graphics.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

This is becoming more entertaining than what I thought :lol:

HAZE-Unit

Ah, how that would make me happy on the inside ;)

Somewhat more on-topic, though: I'm afraid I won't be contributing much more to this thread; I give up, as it's 1 AM here, I haven't been able to sleep more than two hours in the past week (note that I didn't say "per day"), and I don't intend to consume caffeine until the morning.

It was good to see you, Haze, but I think I'm off to play SoaSE :)

and heres the thing that everyone is missing out on. it was TECHNICAL graphics. like this guy said on a pc game it's easy to future proof your game. but with a console they're limited, MGS4 really pushed the envelope in terms of techinical graphics.

enygma500

No one 'missed out' on that. We just spent this whole thread arguing about that one point, and it's pretty obvious now that the award was not what most people thought it was. "Technical Graphics" initially seemed to just be there to differentiate the award from "Artistic Graphics", but I guess GS decided that it meant the best graphics possible on the hardware.

...Man, it seems like I've written this exact same post 50 times.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] Glad to oblige you ;)thepwninator

Ah, how that would make me happy on the inside ;)

Somewhat more on-topic, though: I'm afraid I won't be contributing much more to this thread; I give up, as it's 1 AM here, I haven't been able to sleep more than two hours in the past week (note that I didn't say "per day"), and I don't intend to consume caffeine until the morning.

It was good to see you, Haze, but I think I'm off to play SoaSE :)

[QUOTE="enygma500"]and heres the thing that everyone is missing out on. it was TECHNICAL graphics. like this guy said on a pc game it's easy to future proof your game. but with a console they're limited, MGS4 really pushed the envelope in terms of techinical graphics.

Cherokee_Jack

No one 'missed out' on that. We just spent this whole thread arguing about that one point, and it's pretty obvious now that the award was not what most people thought it was. "Technical Graphics" initially seemed to just be there to differentiate the award from "Artistic Graphics", but I guess GS decided that it meant the best graphics possible on the hardware.

...Man, it seems like I've written this exact same post 50 times.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 DOES have best technical graphics. Try running Crysis on PS3 hardware, it won't look half as good as MGS4. That's the best use of hardwareenygma500

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT GAME LOOKS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's technically proficient graphics. what game makes the best use of its hardware! a ****ing DS game could win this award.

FOR THE LAST ****ING TIME, THE AWARD ISN'T FOR GRAPHICS OVERALL. IT'S FOR TECHNICALLY PROFICIENT GRAPHICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does nobody understand this. is it a hard concept to grasp. are people really that stupid now-a-days that they cant even READ the title of the award. yes crisis looks better but considering the platform its on it had better look a million times better.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="MarloStanfield"] It grinds to a halt if i put more than 2xAA onGameslave_

You can't be serious. EVERYTHING in Crysis looks better than MGSIV. The physics, the textures, the AA, the FPS, the lighting, the models, the details, the resolution etc. I'm not arguing which game is better, but Crysis Warhead is just leagues ahead of MGSIV in graphics and I'm astounded that people even thought about comparing them graphically.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]and heres the thing that everyone is missing out on. it was TECHNICAL graphics. like this guy said on a pc game it's easy to future proof your game. but with a console they're limited, MGS4 really pushed the envelope in terms of techinical graphics.

Cherokee_Jack

No one 'missed out' on that. We just spent this whole thread arguing about that one point, and it's pretty obvious now that the award was not what most people thought it was. "Technical Graphics" initially seemed to just be there to differentiate the award from "Artistic Graphics", but I guess GS decided that it meant the best graphics possible on the hardware.

...Man, it seems like I've written this exact same post 50 times.

i quoted your last post as saying "but crysis looks better." so obviously you seem to think that the award is for best overall looking game. it's not. the best looking game this gen and for many to come(most likely) will be crysis.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] What does that have to do with anything? Crysis is still the better-looking game in the end.Cherokee_Jack

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT GAME LOOKS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's technically proficient graphics. what game makes the best use of its hardware! a ****ing DS game could win this award.

FOR THE LAST ****ING TIME, THE AWARD ISN'T FOR GRAPHICS OVERALL. IT'S FOR TECHNICALLY PROFICIENT GRAPHICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does nobody understand this. is it a hard concept to grasp. are people really that stupid now-a-days that they cant even READ the title of the award. yes crisis looks better but considering the platform its on it had better look a million times better.

then quit being so oblivious to the title of the award. all the lemmings and hermits are in here whining over nothing. that post wasn't meant for just you. nobody seems to understand the meaning of the award.

they should've had a third award for best graphics overall or something just to make sure things like this aren't so easily confused

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="enygma500"]and heres the thing that everyone is missing out on. it was TECHNICAL graphics. like this guy said on a pc game it's easy to future proof your game. but with a console they're limited, MGS4 really pushed the envelope in terms of techinical graphics.

enygma500

No one 'missed out' on that. We just spent this whole thread arguing about that one point, and it's pretty obvious now that the award was not what most people thought it was. "Technical Graphics" initially seemed to just be there to differentiate the award from "Artistic Graphics", but I guess GS decided that it meant the best graphics possible on the hardware.

...Man, it seems like I've written this exact same post 50 times.

i quoted your last post as saying "but crysis looks better." so obviously you seem to think that the award is for best overall looking game. it's not. the best looking game this game and for many to come(most likely) will be crysis.

I did think that, as did everyone else who was surprised by MGS4 winning, but since they obviously would have picked Crysis if they had been judging on graphics and only graphics, I guess they've changed their minds since 2004 (or just picked up new editors who think differently) and have decided that the hardware is a factor.

[QUOTE="enygma500"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

No one 'missed out' on that. We just spent this whole thread arguing about that one point, and it's pretty obvious now that the award was not what most people thought it was. "Technical Graphics" initially seemed to just be there to differentiate the award from "Artistic Graphics", but I guess GS decided that it meant the best graphics possible on the hardware.

...Man, it seems like I've written this exact same post 50 times.

Cherokee_Jack

i quoted your last post as saying "but crysis looks better." so obviously you seem to think that the award is for best overall looking game. it's not. the best looking game this game and for many to come(most likely) will be crysis.

I did think that, as did everyone else who was surprised by MGS4 winning, but since they obviously would have picked Crysis if they had been judging on graphics and only graphics, I guess they've changed their minds since 2004 (or just picked up new editors who think differently) and have decided that the hardware is a factor.

yeah sorry, your post just happened to be the one i quoted. i wasn't actually angry, just trying to seem that way. people tend to respond to ***** and caps moreso then posts without. i figured maybe people would actually read it. because i had seen like 10 other posts stateing the same thing i did, but they were completely ignored and everyone else just kept on saying "bu...bu teh crysis looks better"

They really do need a third award for game with the best graphics. nothing technical, just what game looks the best

They really do need a third award for game with the best graphics. nothing technical, just what game looks the best

enygma500

They had better, next year. I don't want to go through this again when the next Crysis expansion looks better than KZ2.

Best Original Music
Patapon

Whaaa? So the music magically becomes good rather than stupid and annoying because it's incorporated into the gameplay? I logic the understand don't.

Aw come on! They picked Valkyria Chronicles over Prince of Persia for best art direction. Some people just have no taste. VC looks so incredibly flat and bland, and with the character's stupid porcelain doll faces... As for trying to look like a sketch, yes it does, it does look like it's trying to look like a sketch.InsaneBasura

Best Original Music
Patapon

Whaaa? So the music magically becomes good rather than stupid and annoying because it's incorporated into the gameplay? I logic the understand don't.

InsaneBasura

Have you played it?

I found it to be truly original and catchy. When you build up and they all start singing along with the beat it's really motivating.

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Aw come on! They picked Valkyria Chronicles over Prince of Persia for best art direction. Some people just have no taste. VC looks so incredibly flat and bland, and with the character's stupid porcelain doll faces... As for trying to look like a sketch, yes it does, it does look like it's trying to look like a sketch.Rodneythepom

It sort of plays like a board game in 3D and that's exactly what it looks like. Oh lord how overrated I think that game's visuals are...

Look at any other website and either GTA IV or Gears of War 2 is winning GOTY. Look at GameRankings; GTA IV and Gears 2 both have higher averages than MGS4.george999819

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

Best Original Music
Patapon

Whaaa? So the music magically becomes good rather than stupid and annoying because it's incorporated into the gameplay? I logic the understand don't.

FragTycoon

Have you played it?

I found it to be truly original and catchy. When you build up and they all start singing along with the beat it's really motivating.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

Best Original Music
Patapon

Whaaa? So the music magically becomes good rather than stupid and annoying because it's incorporated into the gameplay? I logic the understand don't.

InsaneBasura

Have you played it?

I found it to be truly original and catchy. When you build up and they all start singing along with the beat it's really motivating.

you made up your mind with that 5 sec sound-bite?

wow, no arguing that :|

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Have you played it?

I found it to be truly original and catchy. When you build up and they all start singing along with the beat it's really motivating.

FragTycoon

you made up your mind with that 5 sec sound-bite?

wow, no arguing that :|

POPNPONPONPATAPATAPONPONPATAPATAPONPATAPATAOHNOI'VEDIEDFROMBEINGPUNCHEDINTHEFACETHROUGHTHEPSPSCREEN!
That's probably how I'd react were I to play it.

A shame that the GOTY is tainted by that horrible list of noms, 'cause MGS4 would probably get it anyway. But with that and the technical graphics award...it isn't going to feel right.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 DOES have best technical graphics. Try running Crysis on PS3 hardware, it won't look half as good as MGS4. That's the best use of hardwarekunu822

Yeah, that was '04. I'm sure GameSpot's editors have changed since then, not to mention videogaming standards.

The main reason why MGS4 won this award is because it is TECHNICALLY better than Crysis Warhead. The developers of MGS4 were limited with the PS3, and based on what they had, they produced something spectacular. The Crysis Warhead developers were not limited at all.

Any average PC user who tries to play Crysis Warhead will be extremely dissappointed, unless for some reason they have some monster gaming machine. And that's the reason why Crysis Warhead didn't win this award. You need to have a VERY high-end PC to play it at its maximum capability.

This award is relative, not as straightforward as people here think.

Well back in 2004 the devlopers of Riddick were limited with the Xbox, and based on what they had, they produced something spectacurlar. The Doom 3 (winner of the best tech graphics) Developers were not limited at all. But Doom 3 still won.

I would say even on med. (A setting that would be fairly easy to get to on a fairly mid-range PC) Crysis Warhead would look better than MGS 4. I would even say Gears 2 looks better than MGS 4.

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