1UP review Too human

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

For those of you who aren't aware - Too Human has been killed by the media. The journalists of the gaming world, at E3 2006 - made up their minds. Denis Dyack has a personal disagreement with gaming journalists that just makes the situation worse. He basically feels you should be able to make up your own minds on games, that there should be a unified platform for gaming, and that the people who help make games (like writers, music designers, and animators) should be getting a paycheck from their developer even after the project is finished (instead of fired - like what happens when a project at EA is done).

Sounds like a terrible guy, right? Well unfortunately when you start saying things like "think about the consumer" and "make sure the guys making games are well-off" you piss off a lot of the profit mongers - amongst those the gaming journalism industy, and the console manufacturers and publishers who *fund* the gaming journalism industry.

Teufelhuhn

No no, I fully believe that some people don't like the game - but reviews like the one 1up did are a hit piece. Even if the reviewer doesn't like the game, to have factually incorrect information, or to greatly exaggerate faults while leaving out huge amounts of the game's content is a failing of his journalistic integrity.

Much of the review's information is also factually incorrect - even in the demo, not every enemy in the game "blindly charges you" - and later game enemies are certainly more complex to take down - though they don't even mention status effects, polarity enemies, and the epic varients of levels - which leads me to believe they didn't play that far.

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It's just a rather poorly written review with an obvious bias - and Mr. Dyack hasn't played the "game" of bull**** well with the journalists - in fact, he's spent a considerable amount of time fighting NeoGAF, struggling to get fair reviews for his title, and addressing stuff from E3 2006 that should have no bearing on his review score. I think the reality is - this game is getting attacked due to things that have nothing to do with the game - and many of the reviewers aren't even really *playing* the game before writing their review.

That bodes ill for the indusry - Dyack got the game out with a month to spare for these reviewers to spend the time they *need* to spend to grasp the game, and they wrote a 600-word review that sounds like something a troll in System Wars would write :|. I expect better.

:lol: lemmings are in damage control hereedo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control hereRobbieH1234

don't justify a flop even I was excited for this game, oh well I guess I'll be buying tov then

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control hereRobbieH1234

Someone could write that without even going through the whole game...

deangallop

Bingo - which raises the question - why would they write it that way? It's essentially a hit piece.

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control herehopesfall2own

:lol: and you assume I'm a cow :lol:

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control hereedo-tensei

:lol: and you assume I'm a cow :lol:

1UP's reviews are typically very short, so within those limits (which they likely impose on themselves), it's hard for them to justify their low score and they will often have to ignore other gameplay elements in their reviews. Perhaps they did get one or two things wrong in the review, which admittedly is quite bad for a Journalist, who's meant to analyse games, but that dosen't make him inherently biased.

*bad analogy imminent* There's been a mixed bag of reviews, similar to Revels, some good some bad. Some people enjoy it and others don't, 1UP, it seems, just didn't like it. I bet we'll see a few AA's or AAA's soon, at least they'll get their facts right :P

Here's an interesting factoid - Giancarlo Varanini - the guy who wrote this review - is the news editor for the Official Playstation Magazine :|subrosian

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control hereRobbieH1234

Here's an interesting factoid - Giancarlo Varanini - the guy who wrote this review - is the news editor for the Official Playstation Magazine :|subrosian

Here's an interesting factoid - Giancarlo Varanini - the guy who wrote this review - is the news editor for the Official Playstation Magazine :|subrosian

Just get over it everybody, it's not even Gamespot's score. It's just a review score from 1up which we dont even "count" in here. I've been annoyed by review scores before, but some people almost seem to be taking this personal.

I think we should save the "floppage" and "conspiracy theories" until we get more scores in.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Here's an interesting factoid - Giancarlo Varanini - the guy who wrote this review - is the news editor for the Official Playstation Magazine :|hopesfall2own

Well apparently there were two other reviews by different writers (as EGM tends to do), which were pretty much the same thing.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12436788&postcount=722

10 years in development and it's still unpolished... am I the only one that finds that hilarious? :lol:dracula_16

10 years in development and it's still unpolished... am I the only one that finds that hilarious? :lol:dracula_16

haha, and with all the defending of the game 1up did with denis on 1up yours podcast, saying, oh my game gets bashed for no reason what so ever by people who have never played it, its awesome, just play the game. and then its met pretty much all with 7s, while thats not Bad, seriously they hyped it to be like a genre changing amazing experience and i honestly forget how much money MS poored into it, i doubt this is the responce they wantedVendettaRed07

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"]:lol: lemmings are in damage control herehopesfall2own

:lol: and you assume I'm a cow :lol:

hey if that's your opinion :D

I've been looking for other games he has officially reviewed out of curiosity, but cannot find any (ps3, 360, or otherwise). I think it would be interesting to see how his other reviews have been. musicalmac

I actually heard that the guy reviewing it worked as a reviewer for gamespot at some point.

And so it begins. I offer this:

which I will update as more scores roll in.

I've been looking for other games he has officially reviewed out of curiosity, but cannot find any (ps3, 360, or otherwise). I think it would be interesting to see how his other reviews have been. musicalmac

he used to work for gamespot, he reviewed DMC 2 and gave it a 6.4

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/devilmaycry2/review.html

I actually heard that the guy reviewing it worked as a reviewer for gamespot at some point.

cobrax75

I've been looking for other games he has officially reviewed out of curiosity, but cannot find any (ps3, 360, or otherwise). I think it would be interesting to see how his other reviews have been. musicalmac

Because you think that review makes it possible he is biased?

Curious, what did you think of the review from Gamespot on PS3's Ratchet and Clank?

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

darthogre

"gets popcorn and waits"

Curious, what did you think of the review from Gamespot on PS3's Ratchet and Clank?

darthogre

Because you think that review makes it possible he is biased?

Curious, what did you think of the review from Gamespot on PS3's Ratchet and Clank?

darthogre

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

I actually heard that the guy reviewing it worked as a reviewer for gamespot at some point.

musicalmac

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

heretrix

"gets popcorn and waits"

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

I actually heard that the guy reviewing it worked as a reviewer for gamespot at some point.

musicalmac

Can't find any written though, but he's obviously done many. He's done loads of previews aswell.

He's obviously not some newcomer, he's obviously reasonably trusted by 1UP, I doubt there's anything shady about him.

EDIT: I found this

It's a beat-em-up called new New Legends on the Xbox, only thing I could find remotely close to Too Human.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]haha, and with all the defending of the game 1up did with denis on 1up yours podcast, saying, oh my game gets bashed for no reason what so ever by people who have never played it, its awesome, just play the game. and then its met pretty much all with 7s, while thats not Bad, seriously they hyped it to be like a genre changing amazing experience and i honestly forget how much money MS poored into it, i doubt this is the responce they wantedhopesfall2own

rofl, you think this is going to sale 2-3 million the first month?

and for the record EVERYONE who develops games cares about the score of their game.....specially on high profile websites. I've asked all developers and they say scores can make or break their game. You can pretend it doesn't matter but it DOES.....maybe not to you but it does to them.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

heretrix

"gets popcorn and waits"

dunno bout this thread, but Dur_Rocky has been hyping it AAA for ages.

Its getting kind of annoying actually...

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

I actually heard that the guy reviewing it worked as a reviewer for gamespot at some point.

musicalmac

yeah i dont think out of all the stuff ive seen him review, nothing over a 7.9, but then again, i dont think any of those games deserved any higher than that

I've been looking for other games he has officially reviewed out of curiosity, but cannot find any (ps3, 360, or otherwise). I think it would be interesting to see how his other reviews have been. musicalmac

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

heretrix

"gets popcorn and waits"

before the demo was launched, i did, even after the demo it's still my number 1 must buy game, but i stoped hyping it AAA after the demo

Can't find any written though, but he's obviously done many. He's done loads of previews aswell.

He's obviously not some newcomer, he's obviously reasonably trusted by 1UP, I doubt there's anything shady about him.

gingerdivid

is 1up a good source for reviews? iam just asking please don't flame me:Dagentzero23

Yeah 1up is actually a pretty good source. Ah well, I'm still buying this game and I'm going to love it:D

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

TAKE_IT_BACK

"gets popcorn and waits"

dunno bout this thread, but Dur_Rocky has been hyping it AAA for ages.

Its getting kind of annoying actually...

This game has gotten A-AA hype. We'll see if it meets that hype.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

Dreams-Visions

"gets popcorn and waits"

dunno bout this thread, but Dur_Rocky has been hyping it AAA for ages.

Its getting kind of annoying actually...

This game has gotten A-AA hype. We'll see if it meets that hype.

I know. just pointing out that someone did hype it AAA

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="heretrix "]

Who in this thread hyped Too human to be AAA?

"gets popcorn and waits"

TenP

Dur_Rocky did!

many did. Lemmings just don't want to admit it

not my quote -mac

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

st1ka

"gets popcorn and waits"

before the demo was launched, i did, even after the demo it's still my number 1 must buy game, but i stoped hyping it AAA after the demo

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

heretrix

"gets popcorn and waits"

before the demo was launched, i did, even after the demo it's still my number 1 must buy game, but i stoped hyping it AAA after the demo

this game if anything has received more bashing then praising

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

Dreams-Visions

"gets popcorn and waits"

dunno bout this thread, but Dur_Rocky has been hyping it AAA for ages.

Its getting kind of annoying actually...

This game has gotten A-AA hype. We'll see if it meets that hype.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

how funny.....those who hyped Too Human AAA.........you can tell right away who they are. Suddenly it's "1up's review is trash......their biased now".

At least their are more reasonable Lems that admit they saw problems with the game after playing the demo......but it's funny that their is so much damage control from the few Lems that actually thought this was going to get AA-AAA and maybe their own personal GOTY.

heretrix

"gets popcorn and waits"

before the demo was launched, i did, even after the demo it's still my number 1 must buy game, but i stoped hyping it AAA after the demo

I disagree, that all depends on what side your standing on, I remember the Lair incident perfectly, I remember a lot of people that didn't hype the game simply because it was a flying dragon game, and just hyped it for it's grafics, and I remember LOADS of threads claiming how Too Human was this and that, and a reason to get a 360 over the PS3 and yada yada yada, Too Human is looking to be the 360's Lair.