2007 - Cows get desperate.2008-nothing changes.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Everybody lets go back to 2006 for a minute.Remember waht Sony promised back then?They promised tototally revolutonize gaming.1080p games at 120fps.

Yeah everyone took that with a pinch of salt.But they go and release a console that doesn't even have an fully functioning online gaming service.Its taking them a year and a half to have a must have game released for the system and to top it all of the go and slap a $600 price tag on it,and amazingly some drones actually buy it on release day :lol:.

Wake up Cows.Sony promised everything and delivered next to nothing.

ReturnOfShinobi

Im sorry but the 360 had a horrible launch year full of bad pc ports and not much else.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

2007: Just wait

2008: First AAAA Exclusive in MGS4 and the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide pretty much every month this year.

Sorry lems but the wait is over.

GabeNewellsPie

And sales improve your gaming experience how?

If that's true, my experience is much more improved when I am playing Halo 3 than when he is playing Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted and other games on PlayStation 3.

ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="bulletsword"]i'm surprised that MGS4 wasn't mentioned in any way, TCxboxps2cube

One game,no matter how good,does not make up for nearly 2 years of broken promises and letdowns imo.

and yet the ps3 is still the most advanced and reliable system this generation... i rather own a reliable system than a broken one as my main system.

And yet the 360 and the Wii murder it when it comes to games,y'know the reason we buy these consoles.

yes you are right, there are way more games on the 360 and the wii, but who actually plays all those games? its only a handful of games most poeple play on both systems and the Wii suffers the most out of the two for developers, its hard to sell a game when mario kart or wii fit casuals actually buy games for the system.... im not knocking on wii's sucess, but nintendo is really only making money on this console..... not devs nor publishers.

Way more games on the 360? Um not really it had a year head start and I would say there are less then a dozen must have titles that are on the 360 that are not already on the PS3 or that are on the way. As for the Wii it has the most horrid lineup of any platform to date and it looks like its only getting worse. If casual games are your thing thats great but both the PS3 and 360 are leaps and bounds better as far as quality games go over the Wii.

This thread is full of failure. Not one person has mentioned MGS4.ChrnoTrigger

MGS4 and about 4-5 other games are really the only reason to own a PS3.

Let's see. 1) MGS4 (obviously) 2) Uncharted (incredible) 3) Heavenly Sword (worth playing) 4) MLB 08: The Show (best baseball game this year) 5) Ratchet & Clank (Beautiful game, but gets repetitive.)

Most of the other stuff was just average or just bad. Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf: OOB, Eye of Judgement, Lair, Resistance:FoM, Motorstorm, Tekken 5, GT5: Prologue and HAZE.

So far 2008 for the PS3 hasn't been GREAT, like we were expecting. We are getting Valkyrie Chronicles, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, INFamous and a few other titles before the end of the year. 2008 for the PS3 is definitely better then 2007, but it hasn't been as good as XBox 360's 2007.

[QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and as far as sony go... they go from having a nonexistent ps online to what they have now... Live was garbage during xbox days and it took years to get it where it is now.... and on top of that you are paying for it, so I dont mind waiting on PSN as its free, and coming up to live's level fastGabeNewellsPie

But thats the point.Sony Promised so much pre-launch and yet they couldn't get an online sevice that wasn't completely embarrasing next to Live ready in time for launch.Pathetic.

To build momentum..... why you think companies do what they do..... to get people to look at them. if its close to the original specs than they can slide by.... halo 3 was the same way, commercials and ads were everywhere and they sold alot of them based on halo 2, but now only cult members play that game.... hype can go a long way. M$ just used all their hype too early so they are suffering because of that..... you dont throw your big name games out there in the beginning... you got to have a backup plan in which sadly M$ really does not have right now.... we all know nintendo and sony have better first and second party games than M$ and who dont see that is full of crap.....

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?TheSeaBehindYou

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

2007 Cows : Sales don't matter.

2008 Cows : WE HAVE TEH SALEZZ!1!!

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Everybody lets go back to 2006 for a minute.Remember waht Sony promised back then?They promised tototally revolutonize gaming.1080p games at 120fps.

Yeah everyone took that with a pinch of salt.But they go and release a console that doesn't even have an fully functioning online gaming service.Its taking them a year and a half to have a must have game released for the system and to top it all of the go and slap a $600 price tag on it,and amazingly some drones actually buy it on release day :lol:.

Wake up Cows.Sony promised everything and delivered next to nothing.

Polaris_choice

Im sorry but the 360 had a horrible launch year full of bad pc ports and not much else.

360 launch titles had MUCH more diversity

360 launch titles were better

Launch Window: Kameo, PGR3, PDZ (hate it or love it, its amazing online), GRAW, Dead or Alive 4, Ridge Racer 6

Up till PS3 release: Dead Rising, Saints Row, Top Spin 2

All exclusives, as a 360 owner, i couldnt be more happy

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

LOL are you serious? The PS3 sold as good if not better then the 360 during its first 18monthes on the market. Not to mention Sony didnt have a recall that cost the company about 3 billion dollars like Microsoft did with the 360.

Has anyone noticed that the PS3 is having a better year than the 360 ?

Sales - PS3 is beating the 360

Titles - PS3 is beating the 360

Nonstop-Madness

Lets see,this year the PS3 has gotten MGS4,what has the 360 gotten? Oh but the 360 will have games at the end of the year right?

Gears 2?

Fable 2?

Unproven.

...There's using your logic TC. But seriously the 360 is the only platform that hasn't had a huge hitter so far this year,and seeing as the PS3 does have Resistance 2 and LBP,while the 360 has Gears 2 plus some other games,I'd say the two are about even for this year.(even though in my books MGS4 > all 360 games)

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?Polaris_choice

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

LOL are you serious? The PS3 sold as good if not better then the 360 during its first 18monthes on the market. Not to mention Sony didnt have a recall that cost the company about 3 billion dollars like Microsoft did with the 360.

I try not to reply to flame bait, but it's hard to resists.

How many AAAes have the 360 exactly had so far this year? Don't strain yourself counting tc. :P

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

Lets see,this year the PS3 has gotten MGS4,what has the 360 gotten? Oh but the 360 will have games at the end of the year right?

Gears 2?

Fable 2?

Unproven.

...There's using your logic TC. But seriously the 360 is the only platform that hasn't had a huge hitter so far this year,and seeing as the PS3 does have Resistance 2 and LBP,while the 360 has Gears 2 plus some other games,I'd say the two are about even for this year.(even though in my books MGS4 > all 360 games)

stepat201

Did the PlayStation 3 fanboys agree about PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 will be as good when it comes to games in 2008 back in 2007?

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?Polaris_choice

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

LOL are you serious? The PS3 sold as good if not better then the 360 during its first 18monthes on the market. Not to mention Sony didnt have a recall that cost the company about 3 billion dollars like Microsoft did with the 360.

Here we go again with teh sales.I'm talking about games,we're on a gaming forum,not a marketing and advertising forum.;)

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

:lol:

2009: Oh, just wait

2010: Just a little longer

2011: Ah who cares, PS4>>>all

ReturnOfShinobi

The XBox 360 is far from dead. I think M$ is going to keep the 360 on the market even after they release their next game console. I can see $99 XBox 360 flying of retail shelves in 2011.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?TheSeaBehindYou

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Everybody lets go back to 2006 for a minute.Remember waht Sony promised back then?They promised tototally revolutonize gaming.1080p games at 120fps.

Yeah everyone took that with a pinch of salt.But they go and release a console that doesn't even have an fully functioning online gaming service.Its taking them a year and a half to have a must have game released for the system and to top it all of the go and slap a $600 price tag on it,and amazingly some drones actually buy it on release day :lol:.

Wake up Cows.Sony promised everything and delivered next to nothing.

ReturnOfShinobi

Im sorry but the 360 had a horrible launch year full of bad pc ports and not much else.

360 launch titles had MUCH more diversity

360 launch titles were better

Launch Window: Kameo, PGR3, PDZ (hate it or love it, its amazing online), GRAW, Dead or Alive 4, Ridge Racer 6

Up till PS3 release: Dead Rising, Saints Row, Top Spin 2

All exclusives, as a 360 owner, i couldnt be more happy

I will say that the 360 launch titles are way more variety than what they been putting out on the system lately.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Everybody lets go back to 2006 for a minute.Remember waht Sony promised back then?They promised tototally revolutonize gaming.1080p games at 120fps.

Yeah everyone took that with a pinch of salt.But they go and release a console that doesn't even have an fully functioning online gaming service.Its taking them a year and a half to have a must have game released for the system and to top it all of the go and slap a $600 price tag on it,and amazingly some drones actually buy it on release day :lol:.

Wake up Cows.Sony promised everything and delivered next to nothing.

ReturnOfShinobi

Im sorry but the 360 had a horrible launch year full of bad pc ports and not much else.

360 launch titles had MUCH more diversity

360 launch titles were better

Launch Window: Kameo, PGR3, PDZ (hate it or love it, its amazing online), GRAW, Dead or Alive 4, Ridge Racer 6

Up till PS3 release: Dead Rising, Saints Row, Top Spin 2

All exclusives, as a 360 owner, i couldnt be more happy

Im sorry but 360 launch titles did not look better then PS3 launch titles. I would say the 360 games that were out at the time of the PS3's launch looked better then the PS3 launch titles. But comparing launch titles the PS3 clearly had the edge. REFOM looked better then PDZ and even though Genji day of blades sucks it still looked great.

As for all the titles you named the only ones I have or DOA4, Dead Rising and GRAW. And the PS3 got Ridge Racer 7 which was probably a little better 6. As I say before you couldnt name 12 must have titles that are excluisve to the 360 eventhough it had a 1 year headstart.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?pielover666

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]yep my grandkids are going to enjoy ps3 home, i'll give my ps3 to them
sure by then the RED ray will come out :lol:ReturnOfShinobi

Youre right, the XBOX 720 is going to be out at the end of 08, because MS want to ditch a profit making console duh!:P

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

:lol:

2009: Oh, just wait

2010: Just a little longer

2011: Ah who cares, PS4>>>all

XanderZane

The XBox 360 is far from dead. I think M$ is going to keep the 360 on the market even after they release their next game console. I can see $99 XBox 360 flying of retail shelves in 2011.

Regardless, MS are in a GREAT position, 360 sales are only rising year after year, the Jasper chip is soon to come out, and then after that the CP/GPU. This is really important as it will reduce costs drastically, but may also lead to them having a console similar to the size of PSone or PS2 Slim, reducing costs EVEN more. Also, software sales are really taking off, and while non-traditional games arent there just yet, they are right now the higher than PS3. Also, Japan isnt as dead as people think it is, when you considering that Japanese 360 users are making a big contribution to software sales

People think MS are going to ditch the console, but MS are going to do the opposite and that is milk as much as possible mainly because well... its a SUCCESS

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

:lol:

2009: Oh, just wait

2010: Just a little longer

2011: Ah who cares, PS4>>>all

XanderZane

The XBox 360 is far from dead. I think M$ is going to keep the 360 on the market even after they release their next game console. I can see $99 XBox 360 flying of retail shelves in 2011.

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

seeing like how many GeOW used copies been on the shelf i wonder if the casual community will buy this time......

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

To name few, Halo Wars (hope), Fable 2. But seriously, we do not need more than Gears of War in order to show how games are meant to be created...

[QUOTE="pielover666"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

LOL are you serious? The PS3 sold as good if not better then the 360 during its first 18monthes on the market. Not to mention Sony didnt have a recall that cost the company about 3 billion dollars like Microsoft did with the 360.

Here we go again with teh sales.I'm talking about games,we're on a gaming forum,not a marketing and advertising forum.;)

The PS3 has had a good year of games and as of late the PS3 and 360 share most of there titles. I recomend you check out the latest issue of GI when they compare the top upcoming 360 titles vs the top upcoming PS3 titles. The count is 360 10 the PS3 16. If anything the PS3 simply has more to look foward to not to mention it has had a better year thus far.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

:lol:

2009: Oh, just wait

2010: Just a little longer

2011: Ah who cares, PS4>>>all

ReturnOfShinobi

The XBox 360 is far from dead. I think M$ is going to keep the 360 on the market even after they release their next game console. I can see $99 XBox 360 flying of retail shelves in 2011.

Regardless, MS are in a GREAT position, 360 sales are only rising year after year, the Jasper chip is soon to come out, and then after that the CP/GPU. This is really important as it will reduce costs drastically, but may also lead to them having a console similar to the size of PSone or PS2 Slim, reducing costs EVEN more. Also, software sales are really taking off, and while non-traditional games arent there just yet, they are right now the higher than PS3. Also, Japan isnt as dead as people think it is, when you considering that Japanese 360 users are making a big contribution to software sales

People think MS are going to ditch the console, but MS are going to do the opposite and that is milk as much as possible mainly because well... its a SUCCESS

Exactly,great post.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

LOL are you serious? The PS3 sold as good if not better then the 360 during its first 18monthes on the market. Not to mention Sony didnt have a recall that cost the company about 3 billion dollars like Microsoft did with the 360.

Here we go again with teh sales.I'm talking about games,we're on a gaming forum,not a marketing and advertising forum.;)

Well in addition to outselling the 360 in 2007, and so far in 2008, the PS3 has also put out the most quality titles in the last year as well :P... how's that for gaming? The 360 hasn't had any good exclusives since Halo 3 and Mass Effect a year ago. Since that same period, the PS3 put out Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, GT5: P, & MGS4. The PS3 is currently dominating when it comes to games, and it doesn't seem to be letting up anytime soon.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Everybody lets go back to 2006 for a minute.Remember waht Sony promised back then?They promised tototally revolutonize gaming.1080p games at 120fps.

Yeah everyone took that with a pinch of salt.But they go and release a console that doesn't even have an fully functioning online gaming service.Its taking them a year and a half to have a must have game released for the system and to top it all of the go and slap a $600 price tag on it,and amazingly some drones actually buy it on release day :lol:.

Wake up Cows.Sony promised everything and delivered next to nothing.

xboxps2cube

and the 600 dollar one is the best one out all of the ps3's that one was closer to sony promises than the one we have now.....

No, there was still things missing on it like dual HDMI and a HDMI cable. No headset and terrible exclusive launch titles. Remember Untold Legend, Gundam and Genji? The PS3 launch was pretty bad. Then promised 2 million PS3 for a worldwide launch and only delivered 800,000 for the U.S. and Japan market. the European launch got delayed. Remember? :roll:

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="pielover666"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ReturnOfShinobi

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

The Dreamcast also had one of the best first years ever for a gaming console when it came to quality of games due to the fact that it was so much more powerful then the competiton( N64 and PS1) and was still easy to develope for. But it wasnt enough to save it in the long run was it?

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="fishfake"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]This thread is full of failure. Not one person has mentioned MGS4.bulletsword

not finished ? how long do you want to play mgs4 ?

I'm still in the process of getting all 40 emblems, which gives many goodies such as the bandana, stealth camo, Altair's costume, Big boss face camo, etc, etc.

Try harder next time. MGS4 probably has the most replay value for a single-player driven game.

After that, try beating Halo 3 on Legendary with all skulls on, which only two persons in the world have done. It should make you cool.

since when did people play games to look cool? if anything, doing something like that proves your inner nerdiness

To show your uber awesomness to the chicks 8)

:lol:

Im sorry but 360 launch titles did not look better then PS3 launch titles. I would say the 360 games that were out at the time of the PS3's launch looked better then the PS3 launch titles. But comparing launch titles the PS3 clearly had the edge. REFOM looked better then PDZ and even though Genji day of blades sucks it still looked great.

As for all the titles you named the only ones I have or DOA4, Dead Rising and GRAW. And the PS3 got Ridge Racer 7 which was probably a little better 6. As I say before you couldnt name 12 must have titles that are excluisve to the 360 eventhough it had a 1 year headstart.

Polaris_choice

I named you 9 games, i could include multiplats too, that you simply had to buy because they made the other versions look crap in general. Such games include Tomb Raider, Burnout Revenge and Battlefield 2 MC (a gorgeous and hugely underated game). On top of that, who cares if games are multiplat? Again, as a 360 owner, you couldnt be more happy to have a great choice of titles. Theres too many to count, but i think Oblivion seales the deal

Let's see how the year has gone so far for the consoles:

2008 for PS3: MGSIV is AAAAe

2008 for Wii: Brawl and No More Heroes AAAe

2008 for 360: No AAAe's so far

Not really dominance IMO for the 360.

[QUOTE="pielover666"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?GabeNewellsPie

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?TheSeaBehindYou

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

To name few, Halo Wars (hope), Fable 2. But seriously, we do not need more than Gears of War in order to show how games are meant to be created...

[QUOTE="bulletsword"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="fishfake"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]This thread is full of failure. Not one person has mentioned MGS4.cifru

not finished ? how long do you want to play mgs4 ?

I'm still in the process of getting all 40 emblems, which gives many goodies such as the bandana, stealth camo, Altair's costume, Big boss face camo, etc, etc.

Try harder next time. MGS4 probably has the most replay value for a single-player driven game.

After that, try beating Halo 3 on Legendary with all skulls on, which only two persons in the world have done. It should make you cool.

since when did people play games to look cool? if anything, doing something like that proves your inner nerdiness

To show your uber awesomness to the chicks 8)

:lol:

Because chicks like more when you gather embles and get bandana than doing something that's only made by 2 persons in the world.

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="pielover666"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?Polaris_choice

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

The Dreamcast also had one of the best first years ever for a gaming console when it came to quality of games due to the fact that it was so much more powerful then the competiton( N64 and PS1) and was still easy to develope for. But it wasnt enough to save it in the long run was it?

But the 360 is headed for its 3rd birthday this year and its still has strong sales,but more importantly it has a quality selection of games,and theres more coming. 360=/= The Dreamcast :|

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?ermacness

The ones who said, "oh waitz, 2008, all gamez, kz 2 resistance gow 3, FF!!"!11

Which means that 2009 will be greater, but not 2008...

To name few, Halo Wars (hope), Fable 2. But seriously, we do not need more than Gears of War in order to show how games are meant to be created...

What about Resistance? Curb stomped by Gears of War. And you know, the only true rival, in my opinion, is MGS 4, no Motor, no Socom, no new IP.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="pielover666"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]ok, let's see what i can do here. The ps3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 07 (with all of it's glorified software) and have been outselling the 360 in N.A (the 360's home market) except for 2 months in 08. The ps3 have a AAAAE, a feat that the 360 have yet to achieve, not to mention that the 360 is near HOPELESS everywhere else besides the US (and UK) heck, even most of the analysts predicts that the ps3 will overtake the 360 this gen (even peter moore from ea). So now, who's desperate?pielover666

Ok I'll ask again,how do sales improve your gaming experience?

Besides the fact that the PS3 has had the worst first year and a half of any console in living memory.

The Dreamcast sold pathetically,the 360 is selling more than enough to keep devs happy.You can't compare the two.Try again ;)

2007: Just wait

2008: First AAAA Exclusive in MGS4 and the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide pretty much every month this year.

Sorry lems but the wait is over.

Polaris_choice

Well people are buying the PS3 as a Blu-Ray playing instead of a game console, that can happen. Yes Cows are still waiting for more quality games to come out. The 360 outsold the PS3 a couple times this year in the U.S. Worldwide the XBox 360 is killing the PS3 in software sales. That's more important to developers then anything else. The Wii has outsold the PS3 every month since it launched. :lol: That's pretty sad when you launch at the same time and the Wii outsells you 2:1 for almost a full year. :lol: That's worse then the PS3 outselling the XBox 360 for a few months.