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#101 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="red12355"]

[QUOTE="strangeisland"]

"Graphics King" because of water :lol:

jun_aka_pekto

Yes! Someone start a "water king" thread!

Personally, the only time I saw a console have a "water king" was the N64 with WaveRace 64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmNYVlRul6k

Waverave 64 STILL has some of the most impressive water physics. Awesome game. :)

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#102 Ravenlore_basic
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WHY hype it up now.... JUST wait till the game comes out and see what the critics say!!!!!! Please for the love of all things _______ just leave it be.

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#103 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="red12355"] Yes! Someone start a "water king" thread!

WhenCicadasCry

Personally, the only time I saw a console have a "water king" was the N64 with WaveRace 64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmNYVlRul6k

Waverave 64 STILL has some of the most impressive water physics. Awesome game. :)

That's why it's my favorite N64 game and the first game I got for VC.

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#104 gaming25
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If that's the best, it must be a really down year in the graphics department.strope
C'mon. That vid showed some insane looking water. The game may or may not look as good as Crysis, but I think that the water looks better than anything that I have seen before. Resolution can only go so far. Admit it, Killzone 3 might have the best water.
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#105 pelvist
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Silent Hunter V has much better water and it changes dynamically with the weather in real time too.

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#106 1q3er5
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbtOVS-sok

that is far beyond anything ive seen before, even on my gaming pc with a gtx480.

No.

What he said LOL crysis still wins LOL it will keep winning until they release the next batch of consoles
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#107 SpArKs424
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Nope Crysis 2 .

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#108 gta4_2112
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Looks alright, but I've seen better.

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#109 The_Game21x
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People still think Killzone 3 is better looking than Crysis 2 (or even the first Crysis).

That's...adorable.

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#110 gpuking
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Well, kz3 kicks console crysis2's ass any day and I'm sure the PC version would be in another league due to DX11 and etc. Still, the ocean in KZ3 looks incredible by any standard.

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#111 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Cryostasis is the water king. nothing touches it.
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#112 mouthforbathory
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Looks great indeed like the first one, but it's not beyond a proper dual core with a decent video card.

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#113 7ojistix
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

/thread.

WhenCicadasCry

That's just... erotic. I felt like I was actually swimming in the Maldives when I saw that vid. :P

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#114 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

/thread.

7ojistix

That's just... erotic. I felt like I was actually swimming in the Maldives when I saw that vid. :P

Looks even better at 60fps 1080p. :shock: :P

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#115 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="7ojistix"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

/thread.

WhenCicadasCry

That's just... erotic. I felt like I was actually swimming in the Maldives when I saw that vid. :P

Looks even better at 60fps 1080p. :shock: :P

I was waiting for the shark :P

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#116 D1zzyCriminal
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Are people still debate if KZ3 is graphics king because of onepre bakedsingle water effect? Dear me what next "GRAPHICS KING 2012: LOOK AT THE DETAIL ON THIS BUMP MAPPING ZOMG!11!!"

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#117 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="7ojistix"]

That's just... erotic. I felt like I was actually swimming in the Maldives when I saw that vid. :P

ChubbyGuy40

Looks even better at 60fps 1080p. :shock: :P

I was waiting for the shark :P

Dude, the first time I saw the shark I almost **** my pants. :lol:

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#118 Malta_1980
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for all those who are once again mentioning Crysis... once KZ3 gets released this time ppl can actually compare it to Crysis2, dont forget C2 will be available on consoles... KZ3 doesnt have to be compared to C2 (PC) but the console version.. So we'll see next year which game looks better on consoles..

As regards that footage, pre-rendered or not i still find the overall water effect creates a sort of 'realistic' feel to the surrounding environment...

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#119 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Looks even better at 60fps 1080p. :shock: :P

WhenCicadasCry

I was waiting for the shark :P

Dude, the first time I saw the shark I almost **** my pants. :lol:

Once I heard it existed, like right after the game got out, I so swam out in the ocean. the depth and distance scared me alone (I can't swim IRL and the ocean scares the @^!! out of me.) then the shark comes out, I go strength mode and try to punch it. I lost :(

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#120 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I was waiting for the shark :P

ChubbyGuy40

Dude, the first time I saw the shark I almost **** my pants. :lol:

Once I heard it existed, like right after the game got out, I so swam out in the ocean. the depth and distance scared me alone (I can't swim IRL and the ocean scares the @^!! out of me.) then the shark comes out, I go strength mode and try to punch it. I lost :(

Same. :cry: When you swim deep into the ocean and it gets dark, and anything can be lurking down there -shudders-. Water is my worse fear. :( Now imagine that, and not knowing there was a shark in the game.. It nom'd me too. :P I don't think you can kill it unless you use a cheat.

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#121 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Dude, the first time I saw the shark I almost **** my pants. :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

Once I heard it existed, like right after the game got out, I so swam out in the ocean. the depth and distance scared me alone (I can't swim IRL and the ocean scares the @^!! out of me.) then the shark comes out, I go strength mode and try to punch it. I lost :(

Same. :cry: When you swim deep into the ocean and it gets dark, and anything can be lurking down there -shudders-. Water is my worse fear. :( Now imagine that, and not knowing there was a shark in the game.. It nom'd me too. :P I don't think you can kill it unless you use a cheat.

water isnt my worst fears, nor is heights. I have no problem with either. Bustling city streets scare me though.
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#122 dos4gw82
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KZ3 doesnt have to be compared to C2 (PC) but the console version..

Malta_1980

Who made that rule? We're talking about the graphics king here; this isn't about how good a game can look from within the restraints of the hardware of a single platform.

As a side note, I really, really wish that people would quite automatically dropping Crysis screenshots and videos whenever there is a discussion about what game has the best graphics. There are quite a few other PC games that look equally stunning, and while I'd agree Crysis is probably the most impressive overall, there are certain things that other games do better.

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#123 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

KZ3 doesnt have to be compared to C2 (PC) but the console version..

dos4gw82

Who made that rule? We're talking about the graphics king here; this isn't about how good a game can look from within the restraints of the hardware of a single platform.

As a side note, I really, really wish that people would quite automatically dropping Crysis screenshots and videos whenever there is a discussion about what game has the best graphics. There are quite a few other PC games that look equally stunning, and while I'd agree Crysis is probably the most impressive overall, there are certain things that other games do better.

its not a rule its just common sense... KZ3 is a console game, and Crysis 2 is also available on consoles, so should we compare these games to be fair we should take console versions..

Taking a game (KZ3) available on a $299 console and compare it against Crysis2 for PC running at Max settings (definately not a $299 PC) is simply stupid.. As its stupid for people thinking a console game can look better than a PC game running on a high end gaming PC...

Again since both games are available on consoles, then the console version will have to be compared.. as for Crysis2 PC, well we'll have to compare it to another PC fps title.. :)

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#124 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

KZ3 doesnt have to be compared to C2 (PC) but the console version..

Malta_1980

Who made that rule? We're talking about the graphics king here; this isn't about how good a game can look from within the restraints of the hardware of a single platform.

As a side note, I really, really wish that people would quite automatically dropping Crysis screenshots and videos whenever there is a discussion about what game has the best graphics. There are quite a few other PC games that look equally stunning, and while I'd agree Crysis is probably the most impressive overall, there are certain things that other games do better.

its not a rule its just common sense... KZ3 is a console game, and Crysis 2 is also available on consoles, so should we compare these games to be fair we should take console versions..

Taking a game (KZ3) available on a $299 console and compare it against Crysis2 for PC running at Max settings (definately not a $299 PC) is simply stupid.. As its stupid for people thinking a console game can look better than a PC game running on a high end gaming PC...

Again since both games are available on consoles, then the console version will have to be compared.. as for Crysis2 PC, well we'll have to compare it to another PC fps title.. :)

That doesnt stop the myriad of console gamers from jumping up and yipping about how the console games will be graphics king and comparing their games to PC.
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#125 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its not a rule its just common sense... KZ3 is a console game, and Crysis 2 is also available on consoles, so should we compare these games to be fair we should take console versions..

Taking a game (KZ3) available on a $299 console and compare it against Crysis2 for PC running at Max settings (definately not a $299 PC) is simply stupid.. As its stupid for people thinking a console game can look better than a PC game running on a high end gaming PC...

Again since both games are available on consoles, then the console version will have to be compared.. as for Crysis2 PC, well we'll have to compare it to another PC fps title.. :)

ferret-gamer

That doesnt stop the myriad of console gamers from jumping up and yipping about how the console games will be graphics king and comparing their games to PC.

true but by myriad of console gamers you mean a few fanboys... if we give importance to crap franboys post in here then we're just as stupid as they are..

PS3 is my fav console, but i'd feel stupid to say KZ2 looks better than crysis... same thing once KZ3 & Crysis2 (PC) come out, as much as KZ3 will look good it wont match C2 for PC in terms of visual quality.. (although i do tend to prefare KZ2/KZ3 when it comes to artistic style, but that comes down to personal taste)..

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#127 dos4gw82
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its not a rule its just common sense... KZ3 is a console game, and Crysis 2 is also available on consoles, so should we compare these games to be fair we should take console versions..

Taking a game (KZ3) available on a $299 console and compare it against Crysis2 for PC running at Max settings (definately not a $299 PC) is simply stupid.. As its stupid for people thinking a console game can look better than a PC game running on a high end gaming PC...

Again since both games are available on consoles, then the console version will have to be compared.. as for Crysis2 PC, well we'll have to compare it to another PC fps title.. :)

Malta_1980

This isn't a thread about fairness, and the rule you are trying to impose isn't "common sense," it's an attempt to alter the point of the discussion. We're talking about what game will be the most impressive graphically, period; I'm sorry if you don't think that it's a topic worth discussing. If you want to discuss which game will look the most impressive from within the a single platform you can and should create a separate thread instead of trying to steer this one somewhere else.

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#128 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its not a rule its just common sense... KZ3 is a console game, and Crysis 2 is also available on consoles, so should we compare these games to be fair we should take console versions..

Taking a game (KZ3) available on a $299 console and compare it against Crysis2 for PC running at Max settings (definately not a $299 PC) is simply stupid.. As its stupid for people thinking a console game can look better than a PC game running on a high end gaming PC...

Again since both games are available on consoles, then the console version will have to be compared.. as for Crysis2 PC, well we'll have to compare it to another PC fps title.. :)

dos4gw82

This isn't a thread about fairness, and the rule you are trying to impose isn't "common sense," it's an attempt to alter the point of the discussion. We're talking about what game will be the most impressive graphically, period; I'm sorry if you don't think that it's a topic worth discussing. If you want to discuss which game will look the most impressive from within the a single platform you can and should create a separate thread instead of trying to steer this one somewhere else.

am not imposing anything, am just sharing my opinion... i think you should chill and take it easy.. we're talking about video games :)

Consoles & high end PC's cannot compete in the same league just like small/medium sized family cars cannot compete with Ferrari / Porsche on a technical & performance basis etc...

TC clearly made a mistake in forgetting to put 'console' in his title or else is one of those who wrongly thinks consoles can produce better visuals than PC..

apparently its still not obvious to many that we can have a console graphics king & a PC graphics king....

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#129 shroofnayef
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cool graphics brooo...but bad game broooo :(HaloReachGOTY
It has substantially better competitive MP than Halo Reach...So I suppose HR's competitive MP is terrible?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27426200

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#130 loadedboon
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbtOVS-sok

that is far beyond anything ive seen before, even on my gaming pc with a gtx480.

ZoomZoom2490

So you are saying a game on a console will be the best looking game of 2011?

I don't think so.

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#131 shroofnayef
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While KZ3 obviously doesnt have the best water effects in gaming, it certainly does have some of the best. Also, it has certain aspects that easily beat Crysisunmodded graphically (I know Crysis looks better overall though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yKs1kq04

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#132 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]cool graphics brooo...but bad game broooo :(shroofnayef

It has substantially better competitive MP than Halo Reach...So I suppose HR's competitive MP is terrible?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27426200

that can't be determined objectively. try again;) if Killzone 3 falters in holding an active online community based on: ratio/copies sold over X years. similar to KZ2, I'll just wonder what kind of crazy statement you made.:D

better MP retains players, does it not?

Crysis> Killzone at graphics is objective:) however.

sorry to ruin the old cow parade again.

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#133 glez13
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true but by myriad of console gamers you mean a few fanboys... if we give importance to crap franboys post in here then we're just as stupid as they are..

PS3 is my fav console, but i'd feel stupid to say KZ2 looks better than crysis... same thing once KZ3 & Crysis2 (PC) come out, as much as KZ3 will look good it wont match C2 for PC in terms of visual quality.. (although i do tend to prefare KZ2/KZ3 when it comes to artistic style, but that comes down to personal taste)..

Malta_1980

A shame this almost always ends up happening. :(

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#134 KarateeeChop
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While KZ3 obviously doesnt have the best water effects in gaming, it certainly does have some of the best. Also, it has certain aspects that easily beat Crysisunmodded graphically (I know Crysis looks better overall though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yKs1kq04

shroofnayef

sorry, but crysis beats kz2 in every single way graphically.

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#135 shroofnayef
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

While KZ3 obviously doesnt have the best water effects in gaming, it certainly does have some of the best. Also, it has certain aspects that easily beat Crysisunmodded graphically (I know Crysis looks better overall though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yKs1kq04

sorry, but crysis beats kz2 in every single way graphically.

Crysis 2 on PC? Probably, but Crysis 2 on consoles is just a joke...
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#136 1q3er5
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Nope Crysis 2 .

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I'll bet you crysis will still look better than crysis 2. Consoles are limiting crysis 2 now. Even with nice PC only graphical enhancements, over it is still being limited.
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#137 hd5870corei7
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Lol not even close.

Even Just Cause 2 has better water effects.

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Just Cause 2's water is amazing. (on PC is drool worthy)
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#138 Hakkai007
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Lol not even close.

Even Just Cause 2 has better water effects.

hd5870corei7

Just Cause 2's water is amazing. (on PC is drool worthy)

Yah and the game runs really smooth.

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#139 thedoomerguy117
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbtOVS-sok

that is far beyond anything ive seen before, even on my gaming pc with a gtx480.

ZoomZoom2490
Nah ah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etwR_GFaBl4
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#140 nethernova
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Yeah, not even ocean king.
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#141 SakusEnvoy
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It's called pre-calculated physics animations. In other words, unlike games like Crysis or Just Cause 2, the water is not animated in realtime and does not react with the environment in real-time. It's just an animated backdrop, like a skybox.

Not to diminish it's effect though, it looks really good. But it's not technically impressive.

Kinthalis

Why does a graphics king have to be technically impressive? Can't it just be the best-looking game that comes out that year? (Not that I'm saying Killzone 3 will be the best looking that year, I'd lean more towards The Witcher 2 than this or Crysis 2/Gears 3, but just saying).

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#142 thedoomerguy117
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Or Reach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klw_OLUrxgA It doesn't have a powerhouse of an engine, but it sure does look amazing. The artwork and vistas just blew me away.
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#143 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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While KZ3 obviously doesnt have the best water effects in gaming, it certainly does have some of the best. Also, it has certain aspects that easily beat Crysisunmodded graphically (I know Crysis looks better overall though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yKs1kq04

shroofnayef

Those explosions are my favourite in gaming, they were awesome in Kz2 and look even better in 3!

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#144 thedoomerguy117
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[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

While KZ3 obviously doesnt have the best water effects in gaming, it certainly does have some of the best. Also, it has certain aspects that easily beat Crysisunmodded graphically (I know Crysis looks better overall though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yKs1kq04

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Those explosions are my favourite in gaming, they were awesome in Kz2 and look even better in 3!

Don't look amazing to me.
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#145 mattuk69
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Crysis Water can't be beat!

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#146 thedoomerguy117
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Crysis Water can't be beat!

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#147 call_of_duty_10
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Crysis Water can't be beat!

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