2011, who wins?

Look at Kinect's library and tell me it is not a gimmick, one AA game doesn't make it NOT a gimmick. Pretty much everyone knows that thing is a gimmick by now, only fanboys keep stating otherwise.kuraimen

Wouldn't move be just as gimmicky then...? I mean, they went and built a gun addon for KZ3. If that's not milking I don't know what is.

Facts are facts

killzoneded

But thats not what a fact is defined as.

Hoping that a game can be released on the 360 is not the same as a game being released on the 360. Once you can understand this we will ahve a foundation to work on.

You hope that the Witcher will go to your console, but it may not. Until it does you cannot say 'Witcher 2 is on console'.

With 2 AAAE's and 1 AAAAE Kinect game coming this year; the 360 can't be stopped. :shock:

:P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Look at Kinect's library and tell me it is not a gimmick, one AA game doesn't make it NOT a gimmick. Pretty much everyone knows that thing is a gimmick by now, only fanboys keep stating otherwise.rpgs_shall_rule

Wouldn't move be just as gimmicky then...? I mean, they went and built a gun addon for KZ3. If that's not milking I don't know what is.

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Look at Kinect's library and tell me it is not a gimmick, one AA game doesn't make it NOT a gimmick. Pretty much everyone knows that thing is a gimmick by now, only fanboys keep stating otherwise.kuraimen

Wouldn't move be just as gimmicky then...? I mean, they went and built a gun addon for KZ3. If that's not milking I don't know what is.

Unless you cansomehow prove those Kinect games wont be 10/10 ones, then they count every bit as much as any other title

Also these are new IPs, a host lot better than rehearses

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] Kinect games are new, they are unproven, the dance games DO work as you rightly point out, the steel batallion and project draco look like they could be interesting. until they come out, they are prefectly viable games and DO count as exclusives, no matter what your opinion of them is. I said that the COW attitude is sad when it comes to mainstream games on other systems, which it is as you have just proved yourself by calling it a "gimmick" need i remind you that Dance central achieved a higher score than the second coming of jesus himself (GT5) that must really hurt. as for your lack of interest in gears, well certainly not for you since you probably dont have a 360. i have no interest in UC3, since i dont have a PS3, doesn't mean either game cant be great though.sts106mat

hey, i own kinect, i haven't played with it for a while, there is nothing about that interests me at the moment, doesn't mean there wont be something in the next few months. Also Kinects library has more what i would call "software" than games, things like Kawashima or fitness evolved / fitness things. Remember people said the wii was a gimmick, kinect is certainly not perfect, my missus thinks it was a waste of money to be honest. however i keep an open mind and have told her, its new technology, lets see what comes.

i am interested to see how developers work with it to be honest, IMO it has different potential for gaming than the wii or PS Move does, those 2 devices are too similar. so there are some interesting things on the horizon with kinect, i hope they turn out good, no-one can know yet. hating on it isn't going to help if it does get that great game / integrates superbly with great games in the future.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

Wouldn't move be just as gimmicky then...? I mean, they went and built a gun addon for KZ3. If that's not milking I don't know what is.

killzoneded

Unless you cansomehow prove those Kinect games wont be 10/10 ones, then they count every bit as much as any other title

Also these are new IPs, a host lot better than rehearses

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well yes but the PS3 library is filled with actual games not Move games.kuraimen

Unless you cansomehow prove those Kinect games wont be 10/10 ones, then they count every bit as much as any other title

Also these are new IPs, a host lot better than rehearses

Good luck with that, Rise of Nightmares got a 18 rating, so much for Kinect beeing only for casuals

Also i am sure Diablo 3 and Withcer 2 teams have 10 console related jobs just for fun and there will not be a console port

Sure thing

[QUOTE="nightshade869"]Everyone wins.HaloinventedFPS

except 360 owners

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

hey, i own kinect, i haven't played with it for a while, there is nothing about that interests me at the moment, doesn't mean there wont be something in the next few months. Also Kinects library has more what i would call "software" than games, things like Kawashima or fitness evolved / fitness things. Remember people said the wii was a gimmick, kinect is certainly not perfect, my missus thinks it was a waste of money to be honest. however i keep an open mind and have told her, its new technology, lets see what comes.

i am interested to see how developers work with it to be honest, IMO it has different potential for gaming than the wii or PS Move does, those 2 devices are too similar. so there are some interesting things on the horizon with kinect, i hope they turn out good, no-one can know yet. hating on it isn't going to help if it does get that great game / integrates superbly with great games in the future.

sts106mat

Well there's nothing I can do or say to prove kinect games are going to suck, lets call it a hunch ;) So we can only wait. I personally wouldn't be using them for claiming ownage though.

I think its going to be PS3. It will have the highest scoring games of 2011.

I think its going to be PS3. It will have the highest scoring games of 2011.

tonitorsi

I dont see how, Last Guardian is the only one that has a chance and that is comingin2012

Nothing will score as high as Dark Souls, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, Gears 3, Forza4in 2011

Codename Kingdoms will be the absolute graphics king as well

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] to be honest i expected a bit more of an intelligent response from you after the post i wrote, but ok, if thats what you think, never mind.sts106mat

Well there's nothing I can do or say to prove kinect games are going to suck, lets call it a hunch ;) So we can only wait. I personally wouldn't be using them for claiming ownage though.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="killzoneded"]

Unless you cansomehow prove those Kinect games wont be 10/10 ones, then they count every bit as much as any other title

Also these are new IPs, a host lot better than rehearses

killzoneded

Good luck with that, Rise of Nightmares got a 18 rating, so much for Kinect beeing only for casuals

Also i am sure Diablo 3 and Withcer 2 teams have 10 console related jobs just for fun and there will not be a console port

Sure thing

You can have mature casual games. :D

Also, Witcher!!! Those games have console "teams" (which I highly doubt are 10 people each) in order to test the viability and cost of porting to consoles.

Well there's nothing I can do or say to prove kinect games are going to suck, lets call it a hunch ;) So we can only wait. I personally wouldn't be using them for claiming ownage though.

kuraimen

So because you don't like the selection, you think the games "suck." Why do I have the distinct feeling that if something like Kinect were available on the PS3, you would love it. Aside from that...Right now, Kinect is incredibly casual. Does that mean the titles aren't of interest? Not remotely. I've played a few Kinect games at a friend's house and enjoyed them immensely. I'll actually try something before I pass judgement.

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Hey you are dismissing Sorcery so why couldn't I dismiss Kinect games? I'm just bookmarking this thread for future ownage when all those kinect "hardcore" games release lolrpgs_shall_rule

Good luck with that, Rise of Nightmares got a 18 rating, so much for Kinect beeing only for casuals

Also i am sure Diablo 3 and Withcer 2 teams have 10 console related jobs just for fun and there will not be a console port

Sure thing

You can have mature casual games. :D

Also, Witcher!!! Those games have console "teams" (which I highly doubt are 10 people each) in order to test the viability and cost of porting to consoles.

Actually console teams are used to port the game to consoles as we speak

People dont waste money and pay wages just to have fun, they are making games

CDProject has confirmed the vibility a million times already BTW, trust me they dont hire to that, what a joke

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well there's nothing I can do or say to prove kinect games are going to suck, lets call it a hunch ;) So we can only wait. I personally wouldn't be using them for claiming ownage though.

clone01

So because you don't like the selection, you think the games "suck." Why do I have the distinct feeling that if something like Kinect were available on the PS3, you would love it. Aside from that...Right now, Kinect is incredibly casual. Does that mean the titles aren't of interest? Not remotely. I've played a few Kinect games at a friend's house and enjoyed them immensely. I'll actually try something before I pass judgement.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] a bit better, still not quite there, because no-ones using them for claiming ownage, sts106mat

whose doing that? killzonedad is just adding 360 exclusives to the two games the TC bothered to put on his "list" he is not claiming ownage, just re-dressing the biased post. people like you are trying to annoy him by claiming that he is owned for using kinect titles, which have just as much right to be there as any other games.

Indeed, especially since somehow Sorcery was not "forgotten", but all 10 Kinect titles were

Funny thread and fanboy TC

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I think its going to be PS3. It will have the highest scoring games of 2011.

killzoneded

I dont see how, Last Guardian is the only one that has a chance and that is comingin2012

Nothing will score as high as Dark Souls, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, Gears 3, Forza4in 2011

Codename Kingdoms will be the absolute graphics king as well

Hellooooou

Uncharted 3....96 on Meta critic with 100 reviews. 80 GOTY awards, more than 140 industry awards...ring a bell?

Hellooooou

Uncharted 3....96 on Meta critic with 100 reviews. 80 GOTY awards, more than 140 industry awards...ring a bell?

tonitorsi

Which doesn't mean the sequel will do as well(or even close), especially with the competition it's getting.

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

I think its going to be PS3. It will have the highest scoring games of 2011.

tonitorsi

I dont see how, Last Guardian is the only one that has a chance and that is comingin2012

Nothing will score as high as Dark Souls, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, Gears 3, Forza4in 2011

Codename Kingdoms will be the absolute graphics king as well

Hellooooou

Uncharted 3....96 on Meta critic with 100 reviews. 80 GOTY awards, more than 140 industry awards...ring a bell?

Well, frankly U2 was a one in a million case, i have never played a more boring game that scored so high, was over in a single day too

If that is what PS3 has, then well, i will only be playing on 360 and Wii

No it's actually because I can recognize a gimmick when I see one. I think Move is also a gimmick *gasp* does that mean Move is on the 360?kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] a bit better, still not quite there, because no-ones using them for claiming ownage, sts106mat

whose doing that? killzonedad is just adding 360 exclusives to the two games the TC bothered to put on his "list" he is not claiming ownage, just re-dressing the biased post. people like you are trying to annoy him by claiming that he is owned for using kinect titles, which have just as much right to be there as any other games.

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Of course they are, people here are saying 360s list is better and listing a bunch of Kinect games :|kuraimen

whose doing that? killzonedad is just adding 360 exclusives to the two games the TC bothered to put on his "list" he is not claiming ownage, just re-dressing the biased post. people like you are trying to annoy him by claiming that he is owned for using kinect titles, which have just as much right to be there as any other games.

The 360 list is better, Codename Kingdoms alone is enough for that

Add the biggest racer and shooter in 2011 by far too and i dont think 360 has equal in exclusives

And then it has all the unique Kinect and XBLA games that bring something new and unique to the table and count every bit as much as any PS3 title (esepcially the mediocre KZ3 and ratchet)

So far PS3 has underdelivered vastly, proof that i have played Torchlight more than all PS3 games in 2011 so far

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

Good luck with that, Rise of Nightmares got a 18 rating, so much for Kinect beeing only for casuals

Also i am sure Diablo 3 and Withcer 2 teams have 10 console related jobs just for fun and there will not be a console port

Sure thing

killzoneded

You can have mature casual games. :D

Also, Witcher!!! Those games have console "teams" (which I highly doubt are 10 people each) in order to test the viability and cost of porting to consoles.

Actually console teams are used to port the game to consoles as we speak

People dont waste money and pay wages just to have fun, they are making games

CDProject has confirmed the vibility a million times already BTW, trust me they dont hire to that, what a joke

Your back to making stuff up I see.

'Actually console teams are used to port the game to consoles as we speak' I mean really? You just made this up you have NO proof of this at all. You really have to stop lying for your console.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] No it's actually because I can recognize a gimmick when I see one. I think Move is also a gimmick *gasp* does that mean Move is on the 360?clone01

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

You can have mature casual games. :D

Also, Witcher!!! Those games have console "teams" (which I highly doubt are 10 people each) in order to test the viability and cost of porting to consoles.

tenaka2

Actually console teams are used to port the game to consoles as we speak

People dont waste money and pay wages just to have fun, they are making games

CDProject has confirmed the vibility a million times already BTW, trust me they dont hire to that, what a joke

Your back to making stuff up I see.

'Actually console teams are used to port the game to consoles as we speak' I mean really? You just made this up you have NO proof of this at all. You really have to stop lying for your console.

I need proof to know that a company with 10 console jobs are making a console game ?

Not me, there is a word we use for that, which is "obvious"

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that really.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

whose doing that? killzonedad is just adding 360 exclusives to the two games the TC bothered to put on his "list" he is not claiming ownage, just re-dressing the biased post. people like you are trying to annoy him by claiming that he is owned for using kinect titles, which have just as much right to be there as any other games.

sts106mat

To gamers. Why do you think Wii was not included even though it probably has more exclusives than all the others combined? Nobody would claim ownage using something like WiiFit for obvious reasons.

or is its attach rate so low, because it has so many games out?sts106mat

The company that makes THE MSOT MONEY WINS...

exclusives have been all but irrelevant as revenue drivers since the rise of call of duty..end of story.

and in that contest its Nintendo, Microsoft, Activision and then as always Sony and its exclusives LAST.

who doesnt know this by now?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

whose doing that? killzonedad is just adding 360 exclusives to the two games the TC bothered to put on his "list" he is not claiming ownage, just re-dressing the biased post. people like you are trying to annoy him by claiming that he is owned for using kinect titles, which have just as much right to be there as any other games.

killzoneded

The 360 list is better, Codename Kingdoms alone is enough for that

Add the biggest racer and shooter in 2011 by far too and i dont think 360 has equal in exclusives

And then it has all the unique Kinect and XBLA games that bring something new and unique to the table and count every bit as much as any PS3 title (esepcially the mediocre KZ3 and ratchet)

So far PS3 has underdelivered vastly, proof that i have played Torchlight more than all PS3 games in 2011 so far

[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] He started claiming the 360 2011 list is better using Kinect games. The lists are about relevant games, that's why you don't see any of those lists being exhaustive (there are a lot of PC and PS3 games missing too). So yeah he was not just listing he wanted to "prove" the 360 list is better.kuraimen

To gamers. Why do you think Wii was not included even though it probably has more exclusives than all the others combined? Nobody would claim ownage using something like WiiFit for obvious reasons.

We are all waiting for the proof that 360 Kinect games will be like Wii Fit and not 10/10 core ones

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well there's nothing I can do or say to prove kinect games are going to suck, lets call it a hunch ;) So we can only wait. I personally wouldn't be using them for claiming ownage though.

kuraimen

So because you don't like the selection, you think the games "suck." Why do I have the distinct feeling that if something like Kinect were available on the PS3, you would love it. Aside from that...Right now, Kinect is incredibly casual. Does that mean the titles aren't of interest? Not remotely. I've played a few Kinect games at a friend's house and enjoyed them immensely. I'll actually try something before I pass judgement.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="clone01"] Just like the Wii is a gimmick, right? Why don't you actually, I don't know, "try" something before you dismiss it.

sts106mat

Well in that case it could be measured by how much time users spent playing with the console and the Wii is the lowest from the 3 in that statistic too.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that really.clone01

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]or is its attach rate so low, because it has so many games out?clone01

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] list of relevant games? relevant to who? = Fanboys LOLkillzoneded

To gamers. Why do you think Wii was not included even though it probably has more exclusives than all the others combined? Nobody would claim ownage using something like WiiFit for obvious reasons.

We are all waiting for the proof that 360 Kinect games will be like Wii Fit and not 10/10 core ones

I need proof to know that a company with 10 console jobs are making a console game ?

Not me, there is a word we use for that, which is "obvious"

killzoneded

The makers of the witcher are hoping for a console port deal, they still havn't got one.

They need a publisher, it would be a bonus if they people they hire have 360 experience in case they do get a publisher.

Plus you have no idea what else the dev is making at the moment. You keep adding 2 + 2 and getting 20,000.

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Hellooooou

Uncharted 3....96 on Meta critic with 100 reviews. 80 GOTY awards, more than 140 industry awards...ring a bell?

waltefmoney

Which doesn't mean the sequel will do as well(or even close), especially with the competition it's getting.

And how does that applies with this?

UC2 had the same tough competition in 2009, and still made a name for itself.

Uncharted as a franchise is showing sings of evolving foward. Not the other way around.

If we go by that, UC3 will scored just as great or perhaps surpass it since Naughty Dog only knows how to do that and what works and what doesn't. By your analogy, UC3 wont score as good, wont be anything of an improvement, will has the same melody, same, song and same tune.

Thats not how it works.

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

I need proof to know that a company with 10 console jobs are making a console game ?

Not me, there is a word we use for that, which is "obvious"

tenaka2

The makers of the witcher are hoping for a console port deal, they still havn't got one.

They need a publisher, it would be a bonus if they people they hire have 360 experience in case they do get a publisher.

Plus you have no idea what else the dev is making at the moment. You keep adding 2 + 2 and getting 20,000.

I am sure will be impossible to find a publisher with a multimillion selling game like Witcher

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Hellooooou

Uncharted 3....96 on Meta critic with 100 reviews. 80 GOTY awards, more than 140 industry awards...ring a bell?

tonitorsi

Which doesn't mean the sequel will do as well(or even close), especially with the competition it's getting.

And how does that applies with this?

UC2 had the same tough competition in 2009, and still made a name for itself.

Uncharted as a franchise is showing sings of evolving foward. Not the other way around.

If we go by that, UC3 will scored just as great or perhaps surpass it since Naughty Dog only knows how to do that and what works and what doesn't. By your analogy, UC3 wont score as good, wont be anything of an improvement, will has the same melody, same, song and same tune.

Thats not how it works.

Frankly U2 case is strange, the game was cool and all, but was over in one sitting, a day and was constant moving in a linear coriddor that open to room where you shoot and sometimes jump

That is the most basic stuff a game can have as gameplay, shallow is an understatemt

Now, it may have got all those scores, but frankly i would trade all Uncharted games until year 3111 to play Demons Souls