2012....Year of the PS3/SONY Confirmed.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So it can't be year of the PS3 because of sales? You're trying to argue year of is a sales thing? I would argue that the majority of PS3 users here did buy those overhyped exclusives and SW is about the users as they dictate the topic of discussion :|

ActicEdge

I'm trying to welcome him to the age of the multiplatform. He has the PS2 era mentality going on.

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]2011 was the year of the multiplatform not over hyped and poorly selling PS3 exclusive sequel. That's my point.

I'm trying to welcome him to the age of the multiplatform. He has the PS2 era mentality going on.

KC_Hokie

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

How do you know fanboys didn't buy them? Did you run polls or something?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Im not going to speak on the quality of the games themselves, but if we are talking about what will be remembered, then you HAVE to take relevance into account. And in terms of relevance, people are going to look back at the xbox360 and remember Halo, Gears, Forza, and Call of Duty (which might as well be called a 360 exclusive. Thats the platform it will be associated with reguardless), as well as their advancements in Xbox Live (which is basically a synonym for "online gaming"). The 360 is going to be remembered this gen as the industry standard platform.

Again, in terms of RELEVANCE, the only thing PS3 has that will legitimately be remembered/relevant in the real world will be Uncharted and Gran Turismo. (and maybe Metal Gear Solid 4). In reality, while exclusives DO matter, not only did they come too little too late, but Sony doesnt even give them ANY mainstream marketing. The mainstream simply doesnt care about PS3 exclusives, and most people outside of the internet dont even know they exist. (again, outside of Uncharted, Gran Turismo, and Metal Gear). Again, im not speaking on the quality of those games, but in terms of RELEVANCE, and its Sony's fault. Sony failed these games by not agressively marketing them and giving them any market penetration. Nobody is going to talk about them/remember them 5 years from now. They are going to remember the PS3 as the console that launched at $600, with NO GAMES for 2 years, and was inferior in every possible way to the 360 in features (minus Blu Ray player). Not to mention the PSN hack, etc...

StrongDeadlift

COD is hardly asscociated with just the 360? Its a large seller on the PS3 nearing 7+ million units. Its recognizedas a multiplat franchise.

I disagree, people do not associate CoD just with the 360. It might sell the most there but that doesn't mean that's where it gets its sole association. CoD is known as a multiplatform game and everybody knows it. Its avaliable on the PC, The 360, PS3, DS, Wii, ios etc. Its not a 360 brand. It goes through millions of units on platforms not called the Xbox 360. I don't care for some idiots selling one console to buy another for map packs, that's a small isolated situation. Show me tangible proof that CoD is getting its sole association (or even most of it) from the 360 or stop saying this.

Many new games come for the PS3.................The last of Us,Starhawk,The last guardian,Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time,Twisted Metal,Dust 514,Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch,probably God of War 4 and the new games for the PSVita.2012 is a very amazing year for PS3 and Sony,new game.....new games,that is the reason i really like Sony.

AtariKidX

Buying: The Last of Us; The Last Guardian; Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time; Twisted Metal, Dust 514

God of War IV wasn't announced that is a fan-made image, however if it was released and promising as the last three games I think I would nerd it all over the floor.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

lol...another 'year of the PS3 exclusive'. Never heard that before.

Heard that for every year on SW including 2011. 2011 turned out to be the year of the over-hyped PS3 sequel exclusive that sold worse than its predecessor.

We are now in the multiplatform generation buddy. Get out of the PS2 mentality.

Mozelleple112

Most GOTYs of 2006 went to Oblivion, then Bioshock, then Fallout 3, then Uncharted 2, then Red Dead Redemption, and most likely... Skyrim. Unless you're referring exclusively to Gamespot...

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So it can't be year of the PS3 because of sales? You're trying to argue year of is a sales thing? I would argue that the majority of PS3 users here did buy those overhyped exclusives and SW is about the users as they dictate the topic of discussion :|

meetroid8

I'm trying to welcome him to the age of the multiplatform. He has the PS2 era mentality going on.

Have people already forgotten that Black Ops is the best-selling PS3 game of all time?

The only game beating that is Modern Warfare 3.

Meaning the two best-selling game on the PS3 platform belong to the COD franchise.

Have people forgotten that?

WickoSicko

You are right. However, it is marketed as a 360 exclusive, because Microsoft and Activision have had an exclusive marketing partnership on the CoD franchise from 2008 to 2012. Microsoft/Xbox360 will always be associated with CoD (at least this gen) in the same manner that the PS2 was associated with Grand Theft Auto.

Really guys? Are we really trying to deny that 360/Xbox Live is the primary platform the MAINSTREAM associates with CoD? is this actually an arguement we are having right now :?

keep in mind, I like Sony (and Nintendo) better than Microsoft btw.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]2011 was the year of the multiplatform not over hyped and poorly selling PS3 exclusive sequel. That's my point.

I'm trying to welcome him to the age of the multiplatform. He has the PS2 era mentality going on.

KC_Hokie

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"] Yes, year of the multiplatform games that were also on the PS3 :|

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

el3m2tigre

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

How do you know fanboys didn't buy them? Did you run polls or something?

[QUOTE="WickoSicko"]

Have people already forgotten that Black Ops is the best-selling PS3 game of all time?

The only game beating that is Modern Warfare 3.

Meaning the two best-selling game on the PS3 platform belong to the COD franchise.

Have people forgotten that?

StrongDeadlift

You are right. However, it is marketed as a 360 exclusive, because Microsoft and Activision have had an exclusive marketing partnership on the CoD franchise from 2008 to 2012. Microsoft/Xbox360 will always be associated with CoD (at least this gen) in the same manner that the PS2 was associated with Grand Theft Auto.

Really guys? Are we really trying to deny that 360/Xbox Live is the primary platform the MAINSTREAM associates with CoD? is this actually an arguement we are having right now :?

keep in mind, I like Sony (and Nintendo) better than Microsoft btw.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"] Yes, year of the multiplatform games that were also on the PS3 :|

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

rasengan2552

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while PS3 owner bought multiplatforms instead.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]2011 was the year of the multiplatform not over hyped and poorly selling PS3 exclusive sequel. That's my point.

I'm trying to welcome him to the age of the multiplatform. He has the PS2 era mentality going on.

KC_Hokie

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

Pick one, is it sales or is it games? Your evidence of pointing out fanboys hyping things not buying them which A. you don't know if THEY DID OR DID NOT BUY THEM and B. you haven't specified whether they hyped them to be sales giants (I wonder why :roll: ). Please just stop, because it is the age of the multiplatform game, EXCLUSIVES MATTER THAT MUCH MORE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PLATFORMS. Even then, many of the best selling games this gen were exclusives. Mario Kart, Wii Fit, MGS4, Halo 3, SC2, SSBB, NSMB, Professor Layton, Monster Hunter etc.

Your point isn't valid because year of isn't being defined in terms of sales, its being defined in terms of great games available to purchase and those multiplatform game + THE EXCLUSIVES were available for purchase.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]How is it stupid to point out PS3 fanbois hyped up all sorts of exclusives in 2011 and yet when it was time to buy them they generally didn't. They bought multiplatforms instead.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

KC_Hokie

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while buying multiplatforms instead.

Lol...

The generation is over.

Nintendo won in sales, Xbox in games.

PS3 finished last, and was the generation's biggest failure financially.

WickoSicko

[QUOTE="WickoSicko"]

Lol...

The generation is over.

Nintendo won in sales, Xbox in games.

PS3 finished last, and was the generation's biggest failure financially.

mems_1224

I think Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo did quiet well for themselfs this gen.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Because sales shouldn't be a reference point to whether or not a game was of high quality. Sales and quality should never be intertwined.

rasengan2552

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while buying multiplatforms instead.

And when certain games on a certain system get hyped to the moon and sell poorly....that's not good for the year 'of the whatever' argument. Especially when multiplatforms sell well on that very system.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Halo IV is > about 90% of that combined.Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Because sales shouldn't be a reference point to whether or not a game was of high quality. Sales and quality should never be intertwined.

rasengan2552

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while buying multiplatforms instead.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

How do you know fanboys didn't buy them? Did you run polls or something?

KC_Hokie

You think that the average person who buys games is a fanboy who visits gaming forums and hypes exclusives?

They didn't sell well because they didn't appeal to the general audience.

SW =/= The World.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="WickoSicko"]

Lol...

The generation is over.

Nintendo won in sales, Xbox in games.

PS3 finished last, and was the generation's biggest failure financially.

vtoshkatur

I think Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo did quiet well for themselfs this gen.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"] Yes, year of the multiplatform games that were also on the PS3 :|

Your point is stupid. Pick one, is it games or is it sales? Does having the best games make it your year or does having the best sales make it your year? I can't be both.

ActicEdge

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

Pick one, is it sales or is it games? Your evidence of pointing out fanboys hyping things not buying them which A. you don't know if THEY DID OR DID NOT BUY THEM and B. you haven't specified whether they hyped them to be sales giants (I wonder why :roll: ). Please just stop, because it is the age of the multiplatform game, EXCLUSIVES MATTER THAT MUCH MORE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PLATFORMS. Even then, many of the best selling games this gen were exclusives. Mario Kart, Wii Fit, MGS4, Halo 3, SC2, SSBB, NSMB, Professor Layton, Monster Hunter etc.

Your point isn't valid because year of isn't being defined in terms of sales, its being defined in terms of great games available to purchase and those multiplatform game + THE EXCLUSIVES were available for purchase.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] If a game gets good scores, sells poorly, and as a result that series ends or the developer closes, etc are the scores or lack sales more important?

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while buying multiplatforms instead.

KC_Hokie

And when certain games on a certain system get hyped to the moon and sell poorly....that's not good for the year 'of the whatever' argument. Especially when multiplatforms sell well on that very system.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Halo IV is > about 90% of that combined.Spartan070

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] pretty much this. considering how much of a stranglehold sony had last gen this gen was an absolute failure for them. they're gonna need to step up their game next genmems_1224

I think Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo did quiet well for themselfs this gen.

Oh yeah forsure but Sony probably sold their souls for that kinda success they had last gen =P

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

How do you know fanboys didn't buy them? Did you run polls or something?

KiZZo1

You think that the average person who buys games is a fanboy who visits gaming forums and hypes exclusives?

They didn't sell well because they didn't appeal to the general audience.

SW =/= The World.

It's just laughable to see another 'year of the PS3 exclusive' post. We see these things every year and they are becoming laughable.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] If a game gets good scores, sells poorly, and as a result that series ends or the developer closes, etc are the scores or lack sales more important?

Ultimately you need sales. Just the way it is. And it's obviously a bad thing for the 'year of the PS3 exclusive' argument when every 2011 PS3 exclusive sequel sold worse than its predecessor while buying multiplatforms instead.

KC_Hokie

And when certain games on a certain system get hyped to the moon and sell poorly....that's not good for the year 'of the whatever' argument. Especially when multiplatforms sell well on that very system.

Okay then, best games of gen included, MW3, BO, WiiFit, WiiSports Resort, Mario Kart Wii . . .actually not a terrible list by any means but hardly representative of gaming as a whole. Lots of exclusives sell like ass. Lots of multiplats do too, so what? This is system wars not business 2247.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]How is it stupid to point out PS3 fanbois hyped up all sorts of exclusives in 2011 and yet when it was time to buy them they generally didn't. They bought multiplatforms instead.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

KC_Hokie

How do you know fanboys didn't buy them? Did you run polls or something?

And the few hundreds of thousands copies sold, they probably weren't fanboys right?

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] What do you mean? God of War IV will most likely be a better game than Halo 4. The Last Guardian will put Halo 4 to shame and make it look like a mediocre title.AtariKidX

There is a lot of quiet trolling and quiet damage control in this thead.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]How is it stupid to point out PS3 fanbois hyped up all sorts of exclusives in 2011 and yet when it was time to buy them they generally didn't. They bought multiplatforms instead.

Good lord...how is that not a valid point?

KC_Hokie

Pick one, is it sales or is it games? Your evidence of pointing out fanboys hyping things not buying them which A. you don't know if THEY DID OR DID NOT BUY THEM and B. you haven't specified whether they hyped them to be sales giants (I wonder why :roll: ). Please just stop, because it is the age of the multiplatform game, EXCLUSIVES MATTER THAT MUCH MORE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PLATFORMS. Even then, many of the best selling games this gen were exclusives. Mario Kart, Wii Fit, MGS4, Halo 3, SC2, SSBB, NSMB, Professor Layton, Monster Hunter etc.

Your point isn't valid because year of isn't being defined in terms of sales, its being defined in terms of great games available to purchase and those multiplatform game + THE EXCLUSIVES were available for purchase.

Yeah, year of great PS3 games getting released. Not year of they are going to sell millions.

Something like Sin and Punishment 2 foor example sold like crap but it by no means is representative that because an exclusive game sold poorly its not a worthy addition to the library.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]so you're sticking with this argument. Ok.rasengan2552

And when certain games on a certain system get hyped to the moon and sell poorly....that's not good for the year 'of the whatever' argument. Especially when multiplatforms sell well on that very system.

Anyone can see the hype and actual sales figure were way off. To act like those games weren't hyped like crazy is revisionist history. And the sales figures are in comparison to those who had purchased PS3 exclusives in the past....when there were fewer PS3s on the market too.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Pick one, is it sales or is it games? Your evidence of pointing out fanboys hyping things not buying them which A. you don't know if THEY DID OR DID NOT BUY THEM and B. you haven't specified whether they hyped them to be sales giants (I wonder why :roll: ). Please just stop, because it is the age of the multiplatform game, EXCLUSIVES MATTER THAT MUCH MORE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PLATFORMS. Even then, many of the best selling games this gen were exclusives. Mario Kart, Wii Fit, MGS4, Halo 3, SC2, SSBB, NSMB, Professor Layton, Monster Hunter etc.

Your point isn't valid because year of isn't being defined in terms of sales, its being defined in terms of great games available to purchase and those multiplatform game + THE EXCLUSIVES were available for purchase.

ActicEdge

Yeah, year of great PS3 games getting released. Not year of they are going to sell millions.

Something like Sin and Punishment 2 foor example sold like crap but it by no means is representative that because an exclusive game sold poorly its not a worthy addition to the library.

I'll be broke next year :P

TC your forgot:

And so much moreeeeeeee :cry:

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Spartan070"] Not for me :Dmems_1224

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I'll be broke next year finalstar2007

I really want to say some stuff right now ... I mean seriously, when the hell has COD been marketed as a 360 exclusive ? the mainstream doesn't just associate COD with the 360, you're pulling that out of thin air. You're obviously partial to the 360 with all these arguments you come up with. No matter how much you try to deny that you don't like one over the other its PAINFULLY obvious to us all.rasengan2552

I mean really, are you telling me if we both went to the mall right now and polled everybody which brand they associated it with, that Microsoft wouldnt lead the poll?

Like pointing out the FACT that 360 exclusives are more relevant in the mainstream than PS3 exclusives. Thats a fact, not my opinion. All you have to do is see how many people went to the Gears 3 midnight launches, and compare that to how baren the Uncharted 3 midnight launch was.

Here is The7thlvl, a youtube SONY fanboy (although he isnt a drone), who went to the Unchartd 3 midnight launch, and compared it to Gearsn3's:

(watch at 14:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nwdtZ0fCzRI#t=880s

Am I a "microsoft fanboy" for pointing that out? Or pointing out the day one numbers of every 360 exclusive? The 360 is the industry standard this gen bro. I dont say that because I have a secret hidden agenda of promoting Microsoft. I say it because it is the truth.

By the way, Microsoft and Activision have had an exclusive partnership with CoD. That is why map packs come out first on the platform, and thats also why you dont see commercials for the PS3 versions on TV. Its always the 360 version.

i feel sorry for people who arent gaming on the PS3 or dont own a PS3 at this point.

i hope that the lemmings are at least able to squeeze some enjoyment out of their mountain of kinect garbage and that the sheep are able to enjoy their..... crushing, empty void

2012 is just another good year for gamers

• Diablo 3
• Starhawk
• Last of Us (hopefully it has a 2012 release)
• ME3
• Max Payne 3
• RE Operation Raccoon City
• Xenoblade (for the NA folks)
• Kingdoms Of Amalur
• Aliens Colonial Marines (I have faith in Gearbox)
• Guild Wars 2 (hopefully a 2012 release)
• South Park the RPG

I'll be broke next year :P

TC your forgot:

And so much moreeeeeeee :cry:

finalstar2007

It looks interesting.......the PS3 is very hot in 2012.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Halo again......??How many halo games we need....??Anything new than boring halo games for the XBOX..??lolel3m2tigre

Exclusives are not that important as Resistance 3 has sold only 500,000 copies as of Ocotber 2011, Resistance 2 sold 385,000 in its first month so as KC Hokie said, worse than previous title with an increased installed userbase. It proves PS3 fans dont think exclusives are that important to them as they dont buy them in the same amounts they buy Multiplatform games like Assassins Creed, COD, BF3 or even Homefront. Out of the list on the first page, Last Guardian is not confirmed for 2012, TLOU is 2013 as in Eurogamer preview and GOW 4 has no info at all.Take those games out and the list is not very impressive and easily outdone by Mass Effect 3, Bioshock Infi` Halo 4 and the posssibilty of GTA 5 next year.

2012 is just another good year for gamers

• Diablo 3
• Starhawk
• Last of Us (hopefully it has a 2012 release)
• ME3
• Max Payne 3
• RE Operation Raccoon City
• Xenoblade (for the NA folks)
• Kingdoms Of Amalur
• Aliens Colonial Marines (I have faith in Gearbox)
• Guild Wars 2 (hopefully a 2012 release)
• South Park the RPG

Ballroompirate

i feel sorry for people who arent gaming on the PS3 or dont own a PS3 at this point.

i hope that the lemmings are at least able to squeeze some enjoyment out of their mountain of kinect garbage and that the sheep are able to enjoy their..... crushing, empty void

arbitor365

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

i feel sorry for people who arent gaming on the PS3 or dont own a PS3 at this point.

i hope that the lemmings are at least able to squeeze some enjoyment out of their mountain of kinect garbage and that the sheep are able to enjoy their..... crushing, empty void

AtariKidX