3 Games that will actually Destroy the Xbox 360 `s Reign

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#151 blazinpuertoroc
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MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?Thug_Pikachu
meh so what...people were dissapointed by MGS2 cause of raiden...it happens...halo 3 might sell less because of how inferior halo 2 was to 1....
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#152 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

geez..if that's the best you got, the 360 has nothing to worry about...:)

flipknoc



sure they're not worried.  that's why MS lowered their june 2007 target from 15 million to 12 million.  because they're starting to figure that the 360 is played out.

what's gonna be funny is to read your excuse why MS exceeded their sales projections..;)

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#153 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="flipknoc"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="flipknoc"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="flipknoc"]did the 360 ever reign?

it went through a whole year with no same-gen competition and it still couldn't reign over the ps2 :lol:

flipknoc

Sony Rule #1: When discussing next-gen sales, always bring up the PS2.

:lol: Cows follow this rule perfectly.



it hurts that xbox is dead, but the ps2 is still alive don't it?

It hurts that PS3 sales are so slow, don't it?



nah, it's not selling slow at all. it's the fastest selling playstation system ever.:D

Yet its dead last.



it sold 1 million in it's first 2 months

vs.

600,000 360s in it's first 2 months.

if ps3 is doing bad, 360 should just quit already:lol:

Correction, they SHIPPED that many. Demand for the 360 was a lot higher. If there wouldn't have been a shortage, the 360 would have killed PS3 in launch sales...
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#154 Riverwolf007
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The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

AgentA-Mi6

so you are saying they will crush them in late 2008 when those games come out?

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#155 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?blazinpuertoroc
meh so what...people were dissapointed by MGS2 cause of raiden...it happens...halo 3 might sell less because of how inferior halo 2 was to 1....

Nah, Bungie told Gamespot that they know that they messed up with Halo 2. In fact, they said that they just can't play Halo 2's multiplayer, and I agree. They said that they rushed to the market, and that the ending and multiplayer suffered. They also said that this will not happen with Halo 3, and I believe them...
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#156 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="flipknoc"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="flipknoc"]did the 360 ever reign?

it went through a whole year with no same-gen competition and it still couldn't reign over the ps2 :lol:

dsmccracken
Wrong, it did indeed have competition: the spectre of the PS3 and Wii. Every gamer who held off on buying a 360, either to wait for the PS3 / Wii or to at least simply sit on the fence and see how the console war plays out after all 3 had launched, IS A LOST SALE DUE TO COMPETITION, regardles of whether the competitor's units were on the shelf yet or not. How does no one get this?



ok so for a whole year, the 360 was competing with something that wasn't even there? lmao:lol::lol:

If you're thirsty and go into a store to buy a Coke, and all they have is Pepsi, you'll probably buy a Pepsi. Bigger ticket items, unlike convenience items, don't work like that. People will indeed wait for their prefered console (you did didn't you?), so how you can't see that this qualifies as competition is beyond me.

Average Joe Schmo does not have a "preferred console". And Average Joe Schmo is the buyer that drives the rediculous sales along with Little Billy's parents. These two groups are just looking for the newest gaming machine that'll put a smile on someone's face. They are not staunchly brand loyal like a few idiots are.

I think that Joe Schmo would stay loyal to the PS3 if all else is equal, as it is familiar, a known quantity. PS2 dominating last gen was no accident. Casuals are not as rabidly loyal as fanboys here in SW, but brand loyalty and recognition does count for something (again, all other factors being equal). The problem is, as it is turning out, not all other factors ARE equal (price and games against Sony, BluRay and HDMI against MS, just to name two each).

PS2 is a "known quantity" not the PS3. The average buyer is smart enough to know that this is "different" then the PS2 in that it is new. People are skeptical of new stuff until they have seen it all over the place and gain a sense that it has proven itself in one way or another. Even if this is following the footsteps of the PS2 there is still skepticism. Consoles are not like car brands.

And no the PS2 dominating was not an accident by any stretch. However the factors that caused it to dominate are not the same this time around. Each company is in a totally different environment then Sony was in 5 years ago. To the point of being upredictable.

HDMI is not even common knowledge yet. For people like you and me it's important, but for the guy that just got a big HDTV because it was the lowest price, they have no clue if their TV even has HDMI or not.

The first thing the average guy will see when looking at the PS3 and Xbox360 next to each other is the price. After that they look at what games they can take home with them that day. These two factors probably around 90% of a buyers decision. That other %10 covers the "perks" that such as HDMI, HD Space (most people don't even realize what the HD space will be used for), Bluu-Ray, bells, whistles.

To this person, the 360 wins.

To people that actually investigate a little bit and begin to weigh the other factors, the PS3 has the "potential" to win down the road when more games are out, and even more potential when the Blu-Ray factor kicks in.

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#157 Runningflame570
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Those games are at the top of their genres, both critically and sales-wise but I'm not certain they can do it alone. However, thats not to say I don't think the PS3 doesn't have enough ammo to knockout the 360..though perhaps not the Wii with the current level of hype and the current price-point.
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#158 The_SandRock
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Hey, no love for DMC4?TheCrimsonKoopa

Took the words out of my mouth, that game is the only reason [as of now], I am getting a PS3.

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#159 -L-U-I-S-
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MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?Thug_Pikachu
While theres truth in it, remember PS2 has a much wider selection of game genres than Xbox
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#160 HuusAsking
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The first thing the average guy will see when looking at the PS3 and Xbox360 next to each other is the price. After that they look at what games they can take home with them that day. These two factors probably around 90% of a buyers decision.Bgrngod
Also, when it comes to casuals, there is a ceiling beyond which most casuals won't buy no matter how tempting. I believe the price is $500. Beyond that, the only things casuals will buy are appliances (essential things around the home). TVs and computers can be considered appliances because of their overwhelming utility (and are the only two electronic devices to succeed at over $500). Also, the PS2's popularity didn't really take off until after it dropped price.
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#161 danneswegman
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they will hurt 360 sales. that much is certain. I know i want to play MGS4. never cared much for GT series and FF neither (yeah sorry...). But destroy.... nah...
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#162 Tactis
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Well: Mass Effect

 Halo 3

Gears of War 2(Only fair since you put FF which hasn’t been announced either, or i could have put Fable 2 since that may come out the same year FF does.)

Those look better IMO not to mention other good potential AAAs(like Blue Dragon) and many more AAs that are coming out.

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#163 ReaperXxxx
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The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

AgentA-Mi6
1) The most overrated series in the history of console gaming. 1 was good, 2 was amazing, 3 was only average. They need to up the ante significantly to be a threat. It don't see it happening. It will be a good, enjoyable game, but not a blockbuster. 2) Oooh, another JRPG. FF was relevant years ago but outside of Japan no one cares anymore. 3) A great racing series, one of the best of all time. The 360 has an excellent PGR3 and Forza 2 looks incredible. It'll be a great game, no doubt, but its not going to kill the 360 in any way. Plus its too early for anything to be "crushing" anything else. While I'm sure the original post would be a big hit on the school bus with other PS3 fanboys, its a bit weak to hold up here.
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#164 blacktorn
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3 games that will destroy the games that are supposed to destroy the 360's reign are:

1.halo 3

2.lost odyssey

3.pgr 4 (ok it wont reign over gta 5 but it's something in the driving department :P)

Although i'm going to buy a ps3 in 2008 for the games you mentioned anyway,so i have no hate for anyone :)
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#165 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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so, basically for the past 10 years you've been playing rehashes and sequels while we're getting new classics all the time? i don't see how that's going to crush the 360.
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#166 halostrider14
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will all you sony fanboys stop its just so funny watching you guys make random stuff to help yourselves feel better that you bought a ps3 lol mass effect, fozra, halo3 among others will crush ps3
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#167 mlbslugger86
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not really since nobody knows when exactly gran turismo 5 is coming out,and metal gear solid 4 is going to be in the midst of the release dates of two big games,gta 4 and halo 3.
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#168 solidsnakeEx3
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I'm pretty sure Halo is more popular than Metal Gear Solid.
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#169 milsvaard
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The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

AgentA-Mi6


Final Fantasy XIII will sell lots of PS3s, that I agree with.
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The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

AgentA-Mi6
1: It's popularity have decreased slightly but it's still excellent. 2: I absolutely freaking hate what they are doing with Final Fantasy. Best shmest, there are plenty of RPGs still just as worthwhile as Final Fantasy. 3: I like Forza Motorsport better.
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#171 Guess_With_ReX
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Isn't MGS a stleath game? Isn't halo and FPS? WTF?????????????
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#172 edd721
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The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

AgentA-Mi6
Not being a fanboy but, my opinion is x360 already won...
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#173 killab2oo5
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I never thought of MGS4 being a "system seller".Its a really good game,but doesn't have mass appeal.FFXIII and GT5 I guess would be considered system seller.I wont retaliate with 360 games,because its all just opinion.
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#174 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="ReaperXxxx"] 2) Oooh, another JRPG. FF was relevant years ago but outside of Japan no one cares anymore. 3) A great racing series, one of the best of all time. The 360 has an excellent PGR3 and Forza 2 looks incredible. It'll be a great game, no doubt, but its not going to kill the 360 in any way. Plus its too early for anything to be "crushing" anything else. While I'm sure the original post would be a big hit on the school bus with other PS3 fanboys, its a bit weak to hold up here.

1) Actually Final Fantasy gets most of it's sales outside of Japan, theres a reason Dragon Quest IX went to a portable system and the main entry of Final Fantasy didn't..Dragon Quest is more popular in Japan which is dominated by portables at the moment. 2) Nope, it won't kill the 360 but Gran Turismo is always a million+ seller..I don't think theres been a game in the franchise that has sold fewer than 2.5 million and A-Spec sold 14 million. The last point I can fully agree on.
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#175 MGS9150
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MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?Thug_Pikachu


But MGS2 did sell 8 million.
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#176 swaginator
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[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="zeonne"][QUOTE="xbox3604lyf"]cool 3 games that will destroy ps's reign

Halo 3
Fable 2
Mass Effect
zeonne
fable 2....beating ff13? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: didnt think there were any lems left on the hype train for that game after the first one under delivered

Why don't you tell me??? Killzone 2 is being hyped regardless of the first one floping it like it's hot.

kz2 is now being dev'd mostly by sony, not even really the same people which is why killzone liberation( psp) scored aaa in some places aa in all others the game has a dev team now of over 120 people and bigger budget then most summer blockbuster movies do....thats why its being hyped

Killzone 2 has a 200 million dollar budget?
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#177 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?MGS9150


But MGS2 did sell 8 million.

Last I checked, it only sold around 6 1/2 mil. Halo 2 sold 9 mil and beat out FF10.
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#178 thedarkomen
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Establish Franchise Games > Old Unproven 5 Hour Ones
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#179 nivet14
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What will GT5 do ?
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#180 Adrian_Cloud
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What will GT5 do ?nivet14
GT3 is the best selling exclusive game last gen with over 14+ million games sold. I wonder what GT5 will do, its in practically the same sitatution.
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#181 Dreams-Visions
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this thread does not deliver.
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#183 quocthai
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

Bgrngod

1) MGS has never been a console seller. Halo has. It sold many an XBOX. MGS is one of those games that is in a list with 4 other games that together are "a system selling group of games" if you will. Since Halo was THE big title on XBOX, it sold systems without ever mentioning other games. Both Halo chapters outscored the MGS games that went up against. Weak argument on my part, but it's just a mirror image of what you are stating. Two weak arguments. Many MANY people do indeed care about the price of a console that has great games. Why do you think the PS2 is still selling? Wouldn't all those buyers already have bought a PS2?

2) Blue Dragon is selling really well in Japan, and over there is considered a system seller. Interesting that many former FF creaters worked on this one. Oblivion is already out, and in the US has received a LOT of attention for the 360. Yes it is out for the PC too, but for people who don't play PC games, this is THE next-gen RPG right now and perhaps for awhile. FFXIII may not even come out for another 2 years, which would be more then enough time for either the PS3 or Xbox360 to take a commanding lead, and possibly enough to get SquareEnix to jump platforms. (not very likely, but always a possibility)

3) Forza 2, only a few months away. GT4 was an exceptionally weak entry into the series. Hope they can get more done with GT5, but it's possible the GT series may have peaked.  Good luck seeing this game in 2007.  It may end up competing with Forza3.

Sony has absolutely no magic bullets to end the 360. It will take many different (read: way more then 3) factors to cause any trouble for the 360.

hey, nice sig. I s that your set up?
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#184 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?HuusAsking


But MGS2 did sell 8 million.

Last I checked, it only sold around 6 1/2 mil. Halo 2 sold 9 mil and beat out FF10.

Three years later on a console base twice the size as PS2 was at the time of FFX's release. ;)
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#185 whitetiger3521
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No Tekken 6 on that list? I am dissapointed
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#186 Runningflame570
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No Tekken 6 on that list? I am dissapointedwhitetiger3521
Tekken 6 is significant, but the others are all bigger than Tekken is today. If you asked me around the time Tekken 3 was released I might say differently, but thats how it stands right now. Gran Turismo of course is bigger than all of them when it comes to sales alone, but significantly smaller when it comes to actual system-seller potential..though I'm sure it will heavily factor for many people.
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#187 lilrush
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holy seems like an army of wild lemmings has stomped and stampeded into this forum immedietly after the almighty "XBOX REIGN" was threatened lol That being said, the threadmaker makes some good points.
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#188 lilrush
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So lemmy get this straight:

a game about sneaking around and avoiding fighting… like a sissy (thats also rumored to be coming to the 360),

a wack eastern RPG with lame *** looking characters and a story with 0 voice acting (hmmm I wonder if your 6 axis can tilt you metrosexual in that game),

and a boring ass racing game that will charge you for extra cars

is supposedly gunna crush the dominating system this gen (360) YEH **** RITES

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I hope you are aware of the label that your comments and your spelling of "let me" just stamped on your forehead.
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#190 AgentA-Mi6
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holy seems like an army of wild lemmings has stomped and stampeded into this forum immedietly after the almighty "XBOX REIGN" was threatened lol That being said, the threadmaker makes some good points.lilrush
This topic is generating a few coherent arguments altough
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#191 Ryuhayabuza
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There is no way that i am going to read 10 pages of post so i don't know if this has already been stated. Two of the three games that you listed are made by 3rd party developers, not by Sony. Therefore this is a possibility that those games could end up getting ported to the 360.
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#192 burntout_83
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I agree with 2 of them but I don't think that GT5 will have a huge effect on the 360.jmorey01


GT3 sold more than halo1+2 combined....
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#193 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"]MGS3 didnt even sell half of what Halo 2 did , with a userbase that is 4 times bigger :?Runningflame570


But MGS2 did sell 8 million.

Last I checked, it only sold around 6 1/2 mil. Halo 2 sold 9 mil and beat out FF10.

Three years later on a console base twice the size as PS2 was at the time of FFX's release. ;)

So Halo 2 had less opportunity to sell than FF10 (since FF10 had more time to sell--the rest of the PS2 generation).

As for GT5's relation to GT3, there is one significant difference--competition. Microsoft now has Forza Motorsport with which to counter GT.
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#194 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="jmorey01"]I agree with 2 of them but I don't think that GT5 will have a huge effect on the 360.burntout_83


GT3 sold more than halo1+2 combined....

Can you prove that? GT3 sold some 14.5 mil. Halo 2 alone sold almost 9 and I believe Halo did 7, putting the grand total at around 16 million.
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#195 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="jmorey01"]I agree with 2 of them but I don't think that GT5 will have a huge effect on the 360.burntout_83


GT3 sold more than halo1+2 combined....

I don't believe that. But even if it is true, the 360 version of GT4 is getting 2 extra episodes. So either way, Microsoft wins...
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#196 ScareLegendary
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wow im sorry there are no games. 360 will reign
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#197 Playerpat0
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

The Ps3 is going to crush the 360 with :

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: This game is going to put halo 3 to shame... ¿Why?

Answer: Because mgs4 is a console seller itself, no one cares about the price of a console with great and unique games like this one and it has more fans than halo ( mgs saga started 5 years before :P)

2) Final Fantasy XIII : The best Rpg saga ever made with no discussion , this exclusive is itself a proof the the Japanese companies loyalty to their national Console makers ( this also benefits Nintendo)And No incoming rpg for the 360 can be compared to this one

3) Gran Turismo 5 : The best cars game of all time with a huge fan base all over the world and with an always innovative gameplay fame , This game is going to pawn the competition.

This 3 Games are three major Hits to Microsoft and with a little help from Nintendo the job will be done :twisted:

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hmmm lets see: 1) Bio Shock or Alan Wake or best yet...BANJO!!! 2) Blue Dragon or Mass effect 3) Forza kicks, pardon the pun, asphault

Not to mention Gears.
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#198 Runningflame570
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So Halo 2 had less opportunity to sell than FF10 (since FF10 had more time to sell--the rest of the PS2 generation).

As for GT5's relation to GT3, there is one significant difference--competition. Microsoft now has Forza Motorsport with which to counter GT.
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The argument does not hold up...the vast majority of any title's sales come within the first month after it is released in a region. For the second point, Forza Motorsport has nowhere near the following of Gran Turismo, even taking into account differences in install base (which are a lot less if you are following the 100 million = 60 million line of thought) Gran Turismo 4 sold FAR more than Forza (something like 5 times as much) even in the US where the Xbox was strongest. Care to explain that?

[QUOTE="burntout_83"][QUOTE="jmorey01"]I agree with 2 of them but I don't think that GT5 will have a huge effect on the 360.-GeordiLaForge-


GT3 sold more than halo1+2 combined....


I don't believe that. But even if it is true, the 360 version of GT4 is getting 2 extra episodes. So either way, Microsoft wins...



Uhmm..do you even know what GT stands for? Heres a hint: Its not Grand Theft Auto.
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#199 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]So Halo 2 had less opportunity to sell than FF10 (since FF10 had more time to sell--the rest of the PS2 generation).

As for GT5's relation to GT3, there is one significant difference--competition. Microsoft now has Forza Motorsport with which to counter GT.
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The argument does not hold up...the vast majority of any title's sales come within the first month after it is released in a region. For the second point, Forza Motorsport has nowhere near the following of Gran Turismo, even taking into account differences in install base (which are a lot less if you are following the 100 million = 60 million line of thought) Gran Turismo 4 sold FAR more than Forza (something like 5 times as much) even in the US where the Xbox was strongest. Care to explain that?

Go GT3 sold some 13 million within one month of its release? Can you prove that with actual sales numbers? The thing is, a game is usually available for quite a length of time after its release, and many people may not snap it up until the price goes down (I bought a used copy at $18). Casuals are penny-pinchers, remember.

As for Forza, it didn't get as much exposure as it should since it was the rising upstart. It's a rising star like GT was before its peak at 3. Now, Microsoft is likely to be touting Forza 2 to the hilt, especially since its predecessor was technically superior to GT4 (9.2 vs. 8.9 here). This along with PGR3 (and the upcoming 4), a port of GTR, among other things, are likely to give Sony serious competition in the racer department. Not to mention the price difference between the consoles. Blow it off all you like, but most people won't pay $500 unless it's an appliance.
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#200 Dead_Menn
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[QUOTE="Dead_Menn"]

So lemmy get this straight:

a game about sneaking around and avoiding fighting… like a sissy (thats also rumored to be coming to the 360),

a wack eastern RPG with lame *** looking characters and a story with 0 voice acting (hmmm I wonder if your 6 axis can tilt you metrosexual in that game),

and a boring ass racing game that will charge you for extra cars

is supposedly gunna crush the dominating system this gen (360) YEH **** RITES

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