30 frames vs 60 frames

I dont mind and notice, though since KZ3 needs to have a constant lock on the 30 FPS for the 3D tech, it appears to be 60 FPS.

COD4 was 60fps? Damn you guys, now i'll pay attention to frame rates and i wont be able to get used to 30 again :(#

EDIT: Whats bad company 2's frame rate?

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

yeah, thats true. Some games are even broke and are constantly switching between 30 and 60 with nothing in between like in SH3 on PC. I played it with a framelocker @ 30. It was just annoying when ever you got into a new room its going from 60 to 30.

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

I run 120 refresh rate myself :P makes games more smooth imo

HFkami

me too its awesome for old classics like doom and hexen.

Are those videos supposed to be examples of each? If so MEGA fail. It's the same video running at different speeds. That's not how it works. Video framerate isn't the same as game and animation framerate...In movies its speed in games its fluidity.

blues35301

No they are real check out the frames with fraps or something. Youtube doesnt allow more than 35 frames.

Yeah, but its the exact same video. Meaning the game was only played once at a certain gameplay framerate. Probably 30 fps. Then the video was edited to run faster at 60fps. You can tell because the second one just seems faster. Its not the same thing as in game framerate. Games framerate makes for more fluidity.

A faster running movie/video is just faster running. In movies and videos its speed. Less frames is slomo and so on. In games its just smoothness of animation and such.

If you want to showcase a game running in each you need to play a pc game such as crysis at settings to run around 30 fps. And then replay again with lowered settings (maybe resolution and a few other settings) to get near 60fps. And record each session. The videos wouldn't be identical but then you'd see the diff between a game running at 60fps and 30fps.

Less frames is slomo and so on.

blues35301

Slow motion video actually REQUIRES an incredibly high frame rater when capturing it and displaying because animation fluidity is the top most priority.

Yeah, but its the exact same video. Meaning the game was only played once at a certain gameplay framerate. Probably 30 fps. Then the video was edited to run faster at 60fps. You can tell because the second one just seems faster. Its not the same thing as in game framerate. Games framerate makes for more fluidity.

A faster running movie/video is just faster running. In movies and videos its speed. Less frames is slomo and so on. In games its just smoothness of animation and such.

If you want to showcase a game running in each you need to play a pc game such as crysis at settings to run around 30 fps. And then replay again with lowered settings (maybe resolution and a few other settings) to get near 60fps. And record each session. The videos wouldn't be identical but then you'd see the diff between a game running at 60fps and 30fps.

blues35301

the mp4 video itself and the actual gameplay were 60 frames, i just uploaded the same video in different pages with different maximums for framerates. I did nothing speed up.

30 is fine for me but 60 is nice.

I usually build a new PC which start with 60 FPS but as the years go by it games get more demanding and I still wantto max them out.

I only build a new PC once there are enough games I cannot get close to maxing and keeping a 30 FPS count.

[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

30 is the lowest any game should hit. Higher is ALWAYS better. I can't ever see myself saying I wish this 60 FPS game ran at 30.

I can see turning down effects for better framerate. I can see putting up with 30 for the effects if the developers gave me no choice (consoles) or the leap from high to ultra is noticeable.

I can't imagine anyone saying, "I really like it when my games run slower".

GoGoGadget_

No, there's a trick to that. The movie reel is shown at 24fps, but the shutter opens twice on each frame. So the screen is actually blinking at 24x2. :)

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

Yeah, but its the exact same video. Meaning the game was only played once at a certain gameplay framerate. Probably 30 fps. Then the video was edited to run faster at 60fps. You can tell because the second one just seems faster. Its not the same thing as in game framerate. Games framerate makes for more fluidity.

A faster running movie/video is just faster running. In movies and videos its speed. Less frames is slomo and so on. In games its just smoothness of animation and such.

If you want to showcase a game running in each you need to play a pc game such as crysis at settings to run around 30 fps. And then replay again with lowered settings (maybe resolution and a few other settings) to get near 60fps. And record each session. The videos wouldn't be identical but then you'd see the diff between a game running at 60fps and 30fps.

HFkami

the mp4 video itself and the actual gameplay were 60 frames, i just uploaded the same video in different pages with different maximums for framerates. I did nothing speed up.

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

Less frames is slomo and so on.

nintendog66

Slow motion video actually REQUIRES an incredibly high frame rater when capturing it and displaying because animation fluidity is the top most priority.

EDIT: Whats bad company 2's frame rate?firefluff3

Mine is 50-56 FPS on High.

Preferably though, I like 60 FPS, but if it drops to 30, I'm fine too.

[QUOTE="firefluff3"]EDIT: Whats bad company 2's frame rate?ExESGO

Mine is 50-56 FPS on High.

Preferably though, I like 60 FPS, but if it drops to 30, I'm fine too.

60FPS for sure everything always looks better that way much smoother and fluid. 30FPS is just the least amount you can have while having a enjoyable exp. Only reason you should be playing at that is if your PC cant handle 60FPS it or your playing on consoles.

Couldn't tell the difference in the two videos. I only notice it when there's slowdown.

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

Less frames is slomo and so on.

Slow motion video actually REQUIRES an incredibly high frame rater when capturing it and displaying because animation fluidity is the top most priority.

30 is good, but then with 60 you have an extra 30 on that 30. Frankly I'm not sure which is best.

I can't believe people can tell the difference. The only point it bugs me at is below 20 FPS, thats what I try to play all my PC games at, and it doesn't make a bit of difference on multiplayer (could1 twentieth of a second possiblymake a difference?)

I can't believe people can tell the difference. The only point it bugs me at is below 20 FPS, thats what I try to play all my PC games at, and it doesn't make a bit of difference on multiplayer (could1 twentieth of a second possiblymake a difference?)

magnax1

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

I can't believe people can tell the difference. The only point it bugs me at is below 20 FPS, thats what I try to play all my PC games at, and it doesn't make a bit of difference on multiplayer (could1 twentieth of a second possiblymake a difference?)

Ringx55

I can't at all. I mean, I can tell a difference, but it doesn't make a difference in the experience of the game. I Didn't have any trouble reacting in COD2 when I ran it at 20 FPS, I still played very well.

The higher the better of course but some games I prefer being at 30FPS while having some awesome graphics like Uncharted. On the other hand games like SF, GT5 & Wipeout should always be at 60FPS because of the game being fast paced and all..

Oh by the way, is Bayonetta 60FPS?

sanim02

30 fps is good but I'd take 60 fps over 30 fps anyday.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

30 fps > 60 fps. I see everyone above me only plays CSS and Cod games :O

TerrorRizzing

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"][QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

You know fighters are on consoles as well right? And you know that the fighters on consoles almost universally run at 60fps right? Its the standard in fighting games.

TerrorRizzing

I just hope with the next-gen consoles, 60 FPS will be more standard in games. I would love Halo so much if it was 60 FPS :P My friend has one of those anti-judder TVs though, it makes Bad Company 2 on 360 look as if it's running at a higher frame-rate!-RocBoys9489-

I need 50-60 fps for First/Third Person Shooters. Particularly online.

~30 is fine for everything else, really..but less than that starts to become a visual annoyance.

60 FPS is much, much, much better. I'd easily give up stuff like "textures" and "lighting" for it. (And if it isn't already showing, I know nothing about graphics).nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

60 fps is where it's at. Dreamcast showed me that consoles shouldn't be limited in that regard, and yet 10 years later the consoles shifted back a few paces, and games are coming out at 30fps, and even lower at times......Luckily Nintendo didn't follow that trend.

Some games I just find are near unplayable at 30fps though.Once you've grown accustomed to 60fps in the majority of your games you will begin to notice the choppiness in games that don't run near that.

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="GoGoGadget_"]

[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

30 is the lowest any game should hit. Higher is ALWAYS better. I can't ever see myself saying I wish this 60 FPS game ran at 30.

I can see turning down effects for better framerate. I can see putting up with 30 for the effects if the developers gave me no choice (consoles) or the leap from high to ultra is noticeable.

I can't imagine anyone saying, "I really like it when my games run slower".

br0kenrabbit

No, there's a trick to that. The movie reel is shown at 24fps, but the shutter opens twice on each frame. So the screen is actually blinking at 24x2. :)

I prefer stability over higher framerate, if possible.Teufelhuhn

I can't believe people can tell the difference. The only point it bugs me at is below 20 FPS, thats what I try to play all my PC games at, and it doesn't make a bit of difference on multiplayer (could1 twentieth of a second possiblymake a difference?)

magnax1

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

I can't believe people can tell the difference. The only point it bugs me at is below 20 FPS, thats what I try to play all my PC games at, and it doesn't make a bit of difference on multiplayer (could1 twentieth of a second possiblymake a difference?)

HuusAsking

Like I said, I can notice, but it just makes 0 impact on the game, and it doesn't make it look much better. I'd much rather they push out better graphics then a higher framerate.

I can live with 30. Anything lower starts to get annoying really quickly.

It honestly depends on the game. I agree with some that sometimes 30 fps are fine in some games but over all i enjoy smooth 60 fps.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]60 FPS is much, much, much better. I'd easily give up stuff like "textures" and "lighting" for it. (And if it isn't already showing, I know nothing about graphics).HuusAsking

60fps. Runs smoother, and higher is always better.

How about steady frames? I'd much prefer playing a game running at a constant 30fps than one running at 80fps that decides to drop to 40fps when the action heats up.

depends on the game.

19fps is the bare minimum i can handle. i know, i have a rediculously high tolderance for frame rates.

painguy1

How about steady frames? I'd much prefer playing a game running at a constant 30fps than one running at 80fps that decides to drop to 40fps when the action heats up.

Heirren

you know whats funny though, most console games cant even maintain 30 fps. I dont like 30 fps with dips in the low 20s high teens, which is why i game mostly on pc.

any game below 60fps i wont buy, and if i accidentally do, i throw it out immediately when i find out. i also dont buy games from the developer anymore usually

any game below 60fps i wont buy, and if i accidentally do, i throw it out immediately when i find out. i also dont buy games from the developer anymore usually

CaptainHarley

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

How about steady frames? I'd much prefer playing a game running at a constant 30fps than one running at 80fps that decides to drop to 40fps when the action heats up.

TerrorRizzing

Well, it isn't smoother. Dips in framerate fiddle with timing, which is the most important part of a smooth playing game. Do you like playing laggy Street Fighter online?

isnt crysis only 25