30fps = Next Gen Standard.........Here's Why

The point is 30 fps is absolutely enough for most games and the tradeoff for visual downgrade to make a game 60 fps is just not worth it most of the time.

Weaksauce, I can do 60 fps on my pc already.

next gen is all about detail and devs and gonna want to push as many things on screen as possible. sure next gen consoles can easily do 1080p 60fps but it will still only look this gen. 30fps is absolutely playable and even have its own benefits over 60fps. the best looking console games next gen are most likely going to be 30fps, allowing max detail and maximum polish. killu-later

And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PDragonfireXZ95

Thats what I was thinking but then I realized Im missing some GREAT games when ignoring consoles...

And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PDragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :Pkillu-later

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :Pkillu-later

Yeah if their cpu is a patato.

Weaksauce, I can do 60 fps on my pc already.

Austindro

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PBlbecekBobecek

Thats what I was thinking but then I realized Im missing some GREAT games when ignoring consoles...

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PAustindro

Troll confirmed.

Not really. Im a PC gamer since early 90s and as far as I remember Ive always had framerate issues on my PC. Now I can afford high end PC that handles anything on max with decent fps but there are not enough good games on PC anymore.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

Weaksauce, I can do 60 fps on my pc already.

killu-later

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

In your dreams, maybe.

CoD is 60 FPS, and that is in all likelihood the primary reason it's referred to as the "King of FPS".

60 FPS, if anything, is the future.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PDragonfireXZ95

Thats what I was thinking but then I realized Im missing some GREAT games when ignoring consoles...

Agreed Demons Souls/Dark souls are pinnacle of gaming (but so are some recent PC-only games like Witcher 2).

Also those Nintendo exclusives like Metroid Prime and Zelda are worth picking up, and Valkyria Chronicles is up there too.

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

Weaksauce, I can do 60 fps on my pc already.

Austindro

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularBlbecekBobecek

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

i5750at4Ghz

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularBlbecekBobecek

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

I prefer the fluidity of 60fps, that is what I am use to. The drop-off is noticeable is to me.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularBlbecekBobecek

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

And PS2 graphics were enough too but here we are...

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

Weaksauce, I can do 60 fps on my pc already.

Austindro

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

I personally have a preference for 60fps. Resolution, I'm fine if they can keep it at a good 1080p, or even 720p if it means more in the effects and elsewhere.

To me, the framerate is what matters the most since it affects gameplay, and it gives me an extra sense of immersion.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :Pkillu-later

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularkillu-later

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularkillu-later

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

In your dreams, maybe.

CoD is 60 FPS, and that is in all likelihood the primary reason it's referred to as the "King of FPS".

60 FPS, if anything, is the future.

GTAV2012

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PDarth_Kane

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]And I will continue to play on my PC and not care. :PDarth_Kane

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] yay now the whole world knows that your PC can do 60fps, you are now officially popularkillu-later

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

No one here is even talking about 120 fps, why are you doubling the frames? The difference between 30 frames to 60 is still noticeable to the human eye. I prefer progression with each gen, I don't want gaming to be stagnate.

[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] go on youtube.....most PC gamers struggle to even run @ 30fpsInconsistancy

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

[QUOTE="killu-later"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

i5750at4Ghz

I turn off vsync for most games.

[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"] go on youtube.....most PC gamers struggle to even run @ 30fpsInconsistancy

Probably because FRAPS recording gameplay halves your framerate

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] No it doesn't, just turn off the lock framerate in FRAPS's options, only costs 7fps in crysis2 for me.Austindro

I turn off vsync for most games.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

The point of my statement is that many pc gamers are already gaming with 60fps. It will be embarrassing if next gen consoles run at 30fps.

Gue1

Why? Most games are 100% fine on 30 fps. The only thing that needs to run on higher fps are racing games and fast paced shooters like Quake 3 Arena that you cant (or dont want to) play on joypad anyway.

And PS2 graphics were enough too but here we are...

Thats not the same. Graphics improved a lot but most of devs decided (aka design decision) that 30 fps is enough and its not worth to cut the image quality and reach 60 fps. TBH if you showed me two screens with exactly the same game and one would be running at 60 fps while the other would be at 30 fps, I think I couldnt even tell you which is which. I can only tell the difference when Im playing Quake 3 Arena on near-pro level - thats where the framerate shows.

Notice that this discussion (30 fps vs 60 fps) is only a matter of what level you decide is enough. There could easily be another guy who would say that anything below 120 fps is too low for him, but general consensus is that 30 fps is enough for most games and there is no reason to change it even in next gen.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Even with lock framerate off my framerates drops to 30, do you have to turn off vsync?i5750at4Ghz

I turn off vsync for most games.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

I turn off vsync for most games.

SaltyMeatballs

wait so you think the next gen systems will have lower standards than the 3ds...really?

30 fps has advantages over 60? Please, name me some.

30 fps has advantages over 60? Please, name me some.

cain006

its a good thing Im a pc gamer because I can get whatever FPS I want.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

30 fps has advantages over 60? Please, name me some.

Inconsistancy