30fps = Next Gen Standard.........Here's Why

30fps is NOT enough, cant believe so many here think it is playable. Fast-paced games is a hell play with that low frame-rate, you really begging for eyestrain.

If 30fps is standard i wish it is an option for lower the detail for 60fps....oh wait...i can already do that on PC :lol:

aroxx_ab

30 fps looks fine movies are even shot at 24. I find games running at 60 fps have a soap opera effect on them. The movments dont look that real anymore. Kinda like those old world war one reels

next gen is all about detail and devs and gonna want to push as many things on screen as possible. sure next gen consoles can easily do 1080p 60fps but it will still only look this gen. 30fps is absolutely playable and even have its own benefits over 60fps. the best looking console games next gen are most likely going to be 30fps, allowing max detail and maximum polish. killu-later

Indeed, that is exactly how it will be

Who wants to halve his game visuals, just to increase frame rate that only 1% of gamers may notice and is only 1% as important (when they do notice it) as having double the detail, lighting passes and effects on screen instead

Same can be said about resolution, why halve his game visuals, just to increase resolution that only 2% of gamers may notice and is only 5% as important (when they do notice it) as having double the detail, lighting passes and effects on screen instead

30 fps looks fine movies are even shot at 24. I find games running at 60 fps have a soap opera effect on them. The movments dont look that real anymore. Kinda like those old world war one reels

dontshackzmii

Movies have motion blur hardcoded (by the way cameras work) and that is why they look fine in 24fps

If games can replicate motion blur properly, then 24fps will look like the best Hollywood movie and 60fps will be totally useless

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30 fps looks fine movies are even shot at 24. I find games running at 60 fps have a soap opera effect on them. The movments dont look that real anymore. Kinda like those old world war one reels

loosingENDS

Movies have motion blur hardcoded (by the way cameras work) and that is why they look fine in 24fps

If games can replicate motion blur properly, then 24fps will look like the best Hollywood movie and 60fps will be totally useless

[QUOTE="killu-later"]next gen is all about detail and devs and gonna want to push as many things on screen as possible. sure next gen consoles can easily do 1080p 60fps but it will still only look this gen. 30fps is absolutely playable and even have its own benefits over 60fps. the best looking console games next gen are most likely going to be 30fps, allowing max detail and maximum polish. charizard1605

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30 fps looks fine movies are even shot at 24. I find games running at 60 fps have a soap opera effect on them. The movments dont look that real anymore. Kinda like those old world war one reels

Inconsistancy

Movies have motion blur hardcoded (by the way cameras work) and that is why they look fine in 24fps

If games can replicate motion blur properly, then 24fps will look like the best Hollywood movie and 60fps will be totally useless

Maybe the very fast ones would benefit, depends on how well motion blur can be impemented though, racing games probably would need more than 30fps

But good motion blur could cover for the lower frame rate, like in movies

next gen is all about detail and devs and gonna want to push as many things on screen as possible. sure next gen consoles can easily do 1080p 60fps but it will still only look this gen. 30fps is absolutely playable and even have its own benefits over 60fps. the best looking console games next gen are most likely going to be 30fps, allowing max detail and maximum polish. killu-later

[QUOTE="killu-later"]next gen is all about detail and devs and gonna want to push as many things on screen as possible. sure next gen consoles can easily do 1080p 60fps but it will still only look this gen. 30fps is absolutely playable and even have its own benefits over 60fps. the best looking console games next gen are most likely going to be 30fps, allowing max detail and maximum polish. amaneuvering

Indeed, why would anyone want a 60fps game instead of a 2x better looking 30fps one ?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I'm not a fan of screen tearing.i5750at4Ghz

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] and if you dont get more frames than your monitor's refresh rate, then chances are you wont be getting much screen tearinglightleggy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't next gen hardware benefit with a slight increase in RAM, let's say 6-8 gigs and an efficient unified GPU/CPU, using quad cores? I don't think pumping out 1080p at 60fps would be a problem next gen if they were to have these, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't next gen hardware benefit with a slight increase in RAM, let's say 6-8 gigs and an efficient unified GPU/CPU, using quad cores? I don't think pumping out 1080p at 60fps would be problem next gen if they were to have these, right?

VERTIGO47

So even though 3ds already does 60 fps and Iwata asks says Wii U will have 60 fps then xbox and sony will do 30 and at the same time believe that Wii U will look the same as PS3/360...interesting logic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't next gen hardware benefit with a slight increase in RAM, let's say 6-8 gigs and an efficient unified GPU/CPU, using quad cores? I don't think pumping out 1080p at 60fps would be a problem next gen if they were to have these, right?

VERTIGO47

They will be able to easilly do 1080p and 60fps, yet noone will ever use those instead of making a 4x better looking game at 720p and 30fps

The main reason is, that console games give more attention to graphics instead of gameplay

30fps = bad gameplay

60fps = superior gameplay

pretty much this is the reason why cod's (that run with 60fps on console) destroys every other console game.

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Thats what I was thinking but then I realized Im missing some GREAT games when ignoring consoles...

BlbecekBobecek

Agreed Demons Souls/Dark souls are pinnacle of gaming (but so are some recent PC-only games like Witcher 2).

Also those Nintendo exclusives like Metroid Prime and Zelda are worth picking up, and Valkyria Chronicles is up there too.

LOL@ bold. LOLOLOLOL. yeah, 15fps, no storyline with cheap deaths is really the highest achievement of gaming ever!

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yeah, the only ones I'm really glad I bought a console for was Demon's/Dark Souls. Otherwise, I could have lived without any of the others(Uncharted, Gears, MGS4, etc).

Agreed Demons Souls/Dark souls are pinnacle of gaming (but so are some recent PC-only games like Witcher 2).

Also those Nintendo exclusives like Metroid Prime and Zelda are worth picking up, and Valkyria Chronicles is up there too.

LOL@ bold. LOLOLOLOL. yeah, 15fps, no storyline with cheap deaths is really the highest achievement of gaming ever!

i'm 28 and i know exactly how it was. i'm just not blinded by nostalgia like most of my generation and i can appreciate progress. dark souls is mediocre at best.

i'm 28 and i know exactly how it was. i'm just not blinded by nostalgia like most of my generation and i can appreciate progress. dark souls is mediocre at best.

nismo8000

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i'm 28 and i know exactly how it was. i'm just not blinded by nostalgia like most of my generation and i can appreciate progress. dark souls is mediocre at best.

sethman410

yeah, i remember it, and it sucked for the most part. i never said i liked it. in fact, i only owned like 8 games for the NES and about 7 for the SNES. the only game from that era that has really stuck with me is FF3 for SNES, all of the others were just throwaways. i never loved any NES games and i had fun with a lot of SNES games but only a few of them really left an impression on me. they were mainly mindless blasting/punching/jumping etc...

my current games library is 3 times bigger then both my NES and SNES combined. not because i have more money now, but because there are way more good games now.

30fps? pfthhhh, for like 40% of the time, the frame rates dips to 12fps regularly, it probably averages somewhere around 20fps. i can't find the link right now, maybe someone will post it.