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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]I respectfully disagree, and I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say.smartcriminalOn the Ps3 for instance, if i squeeze the trigger a little bit, i can control the shot burst, where as on the 360 you dont get the same feel. The analog on the ps3 seems to have more precision where as the 360 stick seems to be looser. really? to my knowledge the 360's triggers are pressure sensitive. its pretty obvious in Alan Wake in where if you lightly hold the LT Wake " Iron Sights" without upping the power of the light. also in PDZ there are 3 levels of zoom on the LT depending on how much you pull it. Then The LT an RT hug your fingers better and are more slip proof than the R2 and L2. and well to me LB and RB have a quicker push to them than R1 and L1 which to me feels better.Last I like that the 360 controller is heavier than the sixaxis and DS3. DS3 is so much better than the Sixaxsis it not even funny though. so to me its 360> DS3. PC however IDK, I need a better mouse, but keyboard is awesome once you get used to it.
[QUOTE="smartcriminal"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]I respectfully disagree, and I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say.mayceVOn the Ps3 for instance, if i squeeze the trigger a little bit, i can control the shot burst, where as on the 360 you dont get the same feel. The analog on the ps3 seems to have more precision where as the 360 stick seems to be looser. really? to my knowledge the 360's triggers are pressure sensitive. its pretty obvious in Alan Wake in where if you lightly hold the LT Wake " Iron Sights" without upping the power of the light. also in PDZ there are 3 levels of zoom on the LT depending on how much you pull it. Then The LT an RT hug your fingers better and are more slip proof than the R2 and L2. and well to me LB and RB have a quicker push to them than R1 and L1 which to me feels better.Last I like that the 360 controller is heavier than the sixaxis and DS3. DS3 is so much better than the Sixaxsis it not even funny though. so to me its 360> DS3. PC however IDK, I need a better mouse, but keyboard is awesome once you get used to it.
i forgot to mention that, in games like moh if you squeeze instead of pull the trigger on the 360 version, you go into a "focus" mode if your a sniper
[QUOTE="smartcriminal"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]I respectfully disagree, and I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say.mayceVOn the Ps3 for instance, if i squeeze the trigger a little bit, i can control the shot burst, where as on the 360 you dont get the same feel. The analog on the ps3 seems to have more precision where as the 360 stick seems to be looser. really? to my knowledge the 360's triggers are pressure sensitive. its pretty obvious in Alan Wake in where if you lightly hold the LT Wake " Iron Sights" without upping the power of the light. also in PDZ there are 3 levels of zoom on the LT depending on how much you pull it. Then The LT an RT hug your fingers better and are more slip proof than the R2 and L2. and well to me LB and RB have a quicker push to them than R1 and L1 which to me feels better.Last I like that the 360 controller is heavier than the sixaxis and DS3. DS3 is so much better than the Sixaxsis it not even funny though. so to me its 360> DS3. PC however IDK, I need a better mouse, but keyboard is awesome once you get used to it. They really aren't pressure sensitive, it's probably because of the duration of pressed button from the games u described.
[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="smartcriminal"] On the Ps3 for instance, if i squeeze the trigger a little bit, i can control the shot burst, where as on the 360 you dont get the same feel. The analog on the ps3 seems to have more precision where as the 360 stick seems to be looser. mystervjreally? to my knowledge the 360's triggers are pressure sensitive. its pretty obvious in Alan Wake in where if you lightly hold the LT Wake " Iron Sights" without upping the power of the light. also in PDZ there are 3 levels of zoom on the LT depending on how much you pull it. Then The LT an RT hug your fingers better and are more slip proof than the R2 and L2. and well to me LB and RB have a quicker push to them than R1 and L1 which to me feels better.Last I like that the 360 controller is heavier than the sixaxis and DS3. DS3 is so much better than the Sixaxsis it not even funny though. so to me its 360> DS3. PC however IDK, I need a better mouse, but keyboard is awesome once you get used to it. They really aren't pressure sensitive, it's probably because of the duration of pressed button from the games u described. no, it doesn't matter how longyou hold it it matters n how much pressure you put on the trigger, the frther you pullin PDZ the more zoom the less you pull it slowly goes back after detrimined points. in alan wake its very obvious isnce there's a hint saying "try it". IDK bout pressure sensitive but if you have a 360 download the PDZ demo and try it with the scoped pistols and sniper.
Funny how its only lems saying this..[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"][QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]
360 controller>ps3 controller
anyone says you otherwise ia either a liar or a fanboy
HailedJohnDman
funny how 70% of people agree
I don't agree. I don't feel one controller is better than another. Apples and Oranges my friend, and anyone that would argue otherwise is truly a fanboy.
lets look at it like this. PS3 triggers suck, but you can get real triggers. 360 d-pad sucks, but you can mod it in order for it to be acceptable. Both controllers have issues just as both have their strong sides. Luckily for ps3 owners the PS3 controller takes less effort to fix. regardless, both controllers are pro if you fix their weaknesses.
[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] If you want to ignore the part about it only winning in a place where the 360 is favored like america or 360 fan board etc... lol. And before you say this place is multicultural, I know it is, but it's still dominated by americans. Proof. NPD is Godsend around here, and it's really meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Gamtrix
and you just evaded my previous statement that this is a multicultural board, im not even american, alot of people here are from europe, asia or UAE, get your head over that this is not a north american board, this is A MULTICULTURAL BOARD
It's still an american website, america is a multicultural country, the point is the 360 is strongest in america, these are the places where the 360 will show the greatest strenght. Try doing the same poll on a european site or an asian site. That's all I'm saying. And plus, I showed with facts the Dualshock is a higher quality controller, the design layout is personal preference.actually, I believe the Wii is strongest in america.
[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="mayceV"] really? to my knowledge the 360's triggers are pressure sensitive. its pretty obvious in Alan Wake in where if you lightly hold the LT Wake " Iron Sights" without upping the power of the light. also in PDZ there are 3 levels of zoom on the LT depending on how much you pull it. Then The LT an RT hug your fingers better and are more slip proof than the R2 and L2. and well to me LB and RB have a quicker push to them than R1 and L1 which to me feels better.Last I like that the 360 controller is heavier than the sixaxis and DS3. DS3 is so much better than the Sixaxsis it not even funny though. so to me its 360> DS3. PC however IDK, I need a better mouse, but keyboard is awesome once you get used to it.mayceVThey really aren't pressure sensitive, it's probably because of the duration of pressed button from the games u described. no, it doesn't matter how longyou hold it it matters n how much pressure you put on the trigger, the frther you pullin PDZ the more zoom the less you pull it slowly goes back after detrimined points. in alan wake its very obvious isnce there's a hint saying "try it". IDK bout pressure sensitive but if you have a 360 download the PDZ demo and try it with the scoped pistols and sniper. Is not that important of a feature and there's certainly ways to emulate the response as you have described, but it really isn't pressure sensitive, devs used neat tricks to get around that.
It's still an american website, america is a multicultural country, the point is the 360 is strongest in america, these are the places where the 360 will show the greatest strenght. Try doing the same poll on a european site or an asian site. That's all I'm saying. And plus, I showed with facts the Dualshock is a higher quality controller, the design layout is personal preference.[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]
and you just evaded my previous statement that this is a multicultural board, im not even american, alot of people here are from europe, asia or UAE, get your head over that this is not a north american board, this is A MULTICULTURAL BOARD
Some-Mist
actually, I believe the Wii is strongest in america.
The wii never entered the arguement though.This I always knew you were a fakeboy[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]
Oh, really?!
[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"][QUOTE="Dr_Corndog"]Seeing as how the 360 has a controller whose thumbsticks AREN'T place so close together that your thumbs rub against each other when you strafe right and aim left, I'd say the 360 is better.Kickinurass
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err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid loli was playing Gears 1 &2 again and couldnt help but notice that the trigger and the analog stick sucked compared to the Ps3. On games like Halo 3 its fine cause your not zooming in and just generally shooting, but on games like gears it seems off and flimsy.
The Ps3 on the other hand has a pressure sensor thing going and feels more responsive when shooting.
Just my thoughts, does anyone else feel the same?
not really. that's more controller preference. they make 3rd party boxes that allow one to use a ps3 controller on a 360, or a 360 controller on a ps3.err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lolThePsTriplei don't think so. i own and like all 3 consoles, and i prefer the 360's the most.
[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lolclone01i don't think so. i own and like all 3 consoles, and i prefer the 360's the most. The Dualshock is a MUCH better overall controller. ofc everyone has their preference, my preference is quality and refinement. The Dualshock has that, the 360 pad doesn't.
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] It's still an american website, america is a multicultural country, the point is the 360 is strongest in america, these are the places where the 360 will show the greatest strenght. Try doing the same poll on a european site or an asian site. That's all I'm saying. And plus, I showed with facts the Dualshock is a higher quality controller, the design layout is personal preference. Gamtrix
actually, I believe the Wii is strongest in america.
The wii never entered the arguement though.okay okay! for the sake of your argument we can ignore the wii's existence :p
altho it isn't the best console, it still is the only console that fully supports rail-shooters (quality ones at that). the other 2 seem to have next to none.
Yes, definitely. I think it's the best system all around and I'm not a big shooter person.
I absolutely can not stand any of the Playstation systems controllers.
It's kind-of funny, my good buddy Jon is a big shooter player and he bought a PS3 a while back with Kill Zone 2, Uncharted, and I don't remember the other games but he took it back within 2 weeks. He also hated the controller. He liked Kill Zone alright but never could get into it compared to Gears of War or Halo.
[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]I always knew you were a fakeboy[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]ThisThePsTriple
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err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lolActually general consensus amongst people I know is that the 360 has the better controller. I think it would just be Sony fans who would disagree with that statement, you need only just use both controllers and you can see that.
Out of interest, what is it about PC that makes it best for shooters, like some claim? Games wise, I don't know any other big exlusive shooters other than Crysis (which is several years old now) - is it all about the hardware?
err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lol[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"] I always knew you were a fakeboy
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JStroud88
Actually general consensus amongst people I know is that the 360 has the better controller. I think it would just be Sony fans who would disagree with that statement, you need only just use both controllers and you can see that.
did you ever consider that "the people you know" might just be microsoft fans? for example, the friend you just wrote about seems like hes obviously a bigger fan of microsoft. as I've stated before, the comparison is apples and oranges.
fyi, using people you know as a measurement isnt very accurate in regards to the general gaming population.
[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lolGamtrixi don't think so. i own and like all 3 consoles, and i prefer the 360's the most. The Dualshock is a MUCH better overall controller. ofc everyone has their preference, my preference is quality and refinement. The Dualshock has that, the 360 pad doesn't. i don't like the 360 dpad (i don't think most people do). however, i find the 360 controller far more comfortable, and i like the triggers a lot more.
Out of interest, what is it about PC that makes it best for shooters, like some claim? Games wise, I don't know any other big exlusive shooters other than Crysis (which is several years old now) - is it all about the hardware?
PapaJuliio17
Mouse and Keyboard are much more precise for aiming than analog sticks.
Also dedicated servers.
The Wii is the best controller for shooters... I die a little inside saying that. but it is true. RE4 was amazing for it, next is the 360 because of the click response, the sponginess of the ps3 bothered me too much.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]No, PC is in fact the best platform for shooters.Miroku32In fact, PC is almost better at everything with some exception like fighting games or Hack and Slash. From my experience, neither are Platformers. (Unless if you had a joypad).
I would have to say PC
FPS: M/K > DA
TPS: M/K >DA
SHMUPS: Probably a tie. In oldschool ones it doesn't matter in those modern ones that you have a reticle, it isn't for precise shooting just for general direction shooting so I would say it doesn't matter also.
For consoles I don't see any real technical advantages for any of the DA controllers to place them overall over the other. I even see more in the Wiimote and the few shooters it has over DA controllers.
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]err i was agreeing that the 360 controller is better for shooters, but overall the dualshock is the better controller and its only lems that disagree with that... your paranoid lolSome-Mist
Actually general consensus amongst people I know is that the 360 has the better controller. I think it would just be Sony fans who would disagree with that statement, you need only just use both controllers and you can see that.
did you ever consider that "the people you know" might just be microsoft fans? for example, the friend you just wrote about seems like hes obviously a bigger fan of microsoft. as I've stated before, the comparison is apples and oranges.
fyi, using people you know as a measurement isnt very accurate in regards to the general gaming population.
I understand that it is not statistically accurate, but they are average gamers. Unlike just about everyone on the System Wars board. But thanks for the input.
By default, it IS the PC, no battle, no war. But when it comes to consoles, I personally think Motion Controls >>> Dual Analog.nintendoboy16The Wii may have better potential for shooters, but that's it. When Move comes out, i expect PS3 will have the most potential out of the consoles.
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
Actually general consensus amongst people I know is that the 360 has the better controller. I think it would just be Sony fans who would disagree with that statement, you need only just use both controllers and you can see that.
JStroud88
did you ever consider that "the people you know" might just be microsoft fans? for example, the friend you just wrote about seems like hes obviously a bigger fan of microsoft. as I've stated before, the comparison is apples and oranges.
fyi, using people you know as a measurement isnt very accurate in regards to the general gaming population.
I understand that it is not statistically accurate, but they are average gamers. Unlike just about everyone on the System Wars board. But thanks for the input.
what does that even mean? that they only game moderately? that they only play mainstream games? and is your friends being average gamers supposed to make your point (if you think the ps3 controller is better, then you must be a sony fan) more accurate?
oh, and no problem.
pc is the best platform for the ones who have money ! that said
wii follows pc ,
360 is just way overloaded with fpses and that doesnt mean its the platform lolthat just means 360 needs to get more variety or di the only thing 360 is better at is online
anything else!
ps3 and wii do better !
to be spacific
i rather play a variety of games on my ps3 or wii then play any of the fpses released lately on the 360 -perfect dark and any other fps on arcade is an exception
wii is the most fun platform to play fpses on !
dont even start saying oh but you cant talk or play online in most of them
that is just an excuse
not a fact ,
i rather play with some one beside me then play with 15 -31 other kids yelling over the mic
and with goldeneye007
we can now replay one of the most funnest games of all time , that only 4-5 OTHER GAMES SINCE THEN CAN MATCH
those 5 =
perfect dark
and 3 timesplitters titles in case your wondering
those are the only 5 fpses that matter to me
sure halo1 and cod was good but not as fun as the others in multiplayer and they didnt include a boosting singleplayer along side it either
they only offer one or the other
i rather do both!
lets face it
halo and cod are not aimed for sp
their aimned at their mp portion of the game
goldeneye and the 4 are both ,they offer good sp and great mp
so ya wii is the sp /mp king
The Xbox 360 is the best platform for shooters because in under a month it will have Halo: Reach, it's as simple as that.
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]
did you ever consider that "the people you know" might just be microsoft fans? for example, the friend you just wrote about seems like hes obviously a bigger fan of microsoft. as I've stated before, the comparison is apples and oranges.
fyi, using people you know as a measurement isnt very accurate in regards to the general gaming population.
Some-Mist
I understand that it is not statistically accurate, but they are average gamers. Unlike just about everyone on the System Wars board. But thanks for the input.
what does that even mean? that they only game moderately? that they only play mainstream games? and is your friends being average gamers supposed to make your point (if you think the ps3 controller is better, then you must be a sony fan) more accurate?
oh, and no problem.
Basically they don't lead sad lives, and form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies. I guess that was what I was trying to get at.
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
I understand that it is not statistically accurate, but they are average gamers. Unlike just about everyone on the System Wars board. But thanks for the input.
JStroud88
what does that even mean? that they only game moderately? that they only play mainstream games? and is your friends being average gamers supposed to make your point (if you think the ps3 controller is better, then you must be a sony fan) more accurate?
oh, and no problem.
Basically they don't lead sad lives, and form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies. I guess that was what I was trying to get at.
well I'm sorry, but that doesn't prove your point what-so-ever.
so far this is what you've said: "people who own both prefer the 360 controller because it's better. If you prefer the ps3 controller you're just a sony fan. this makes sense because my friends are average gamers and they prefer the 360 controller. an average gamer is someone who doesn't lead a sad life or form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies."
alright. that's good enough proof for me.
I don't prefer one console over the other, or controller for that matter (as a lot of ps360 owners would say). would you say that you might have grown a profound attachment to your 360 controller?
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]
what does that even mean? that they only game moderately? that they only play mainstream games? and is your friends being average gamers supposed to make your point (if you think the ps3 controller is better, then you must be a sony fan) more accurate?
oh, and no problem.Some-Mist
Basically they don't lead sad lives, and form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies. I guess that was what I was trying to get at.
well I'm sorry, but that doesn't prove your point what-so-ever.
so far this is what you've said: "people who own both prefer the 360 controller because it's better. If you prefer the ps3 controller you're just a sony fan. this makes sense because my friends are average gamers and they prefer the 360 controller. an average gamer is someone who doesn't lead a sad life or form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies."
alright. that's good enough proof for me.
I don't prefer one console over the other, or controller for that matter (as a lot of ps360 owners would say). would you say that you might have grown a profound attachment to your 360 controller?
Yeah, not what I said. I wasn't creating a proof statement.
It's a shame when we live in a world where forum mod's keep us from commenting on anothers intelligence. You are obviously not interested in discussion much like most everyone else here. When I do come to this site I will stick to the console-specific boards.
[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]
[QUOTE="JStroud88"]
Basically they don't lead sad lives, and form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies. I guess that was what I was trying to get at.
JStroud88
well I'm sorry, but that doesn't prove your point what-so-ever.
so far this is what you've said: "people who own both prefer the 360 controller because it's better. If you prefer the ps3 controller you're just a sony fan. this makes sense because my friends are average gamers and they prefer the 360 controller. an average gamer is someone who doesn't lead a sad life or form profound attachments to gaming consoles or gaming companies."
alright. that's good enough proof for me.
I don't prefer one console over the other, or controller for that matter (as a lot of ps360 owners would say). would you say that you might have grown a profound attachment to your 360 controller?
Yeah, not what I said. I wasn't creating a proof statement.
It's a shame when we live in a world where forum mod's keep us from commenting on anothers intelligence. You are obviously not interested in discussion much like most everyone else here. When I do come to this site I will stick to the console-specific boards.
then feel free to elaborate on your points and make a sound argument. it's kind of hilarious to know you would show off your 'intelligence' by relying on personal insults. fanboys will be fanboys :]
FPS on PC>all other systems
the mouse and the keyboard are hands down the best controls for FPS games, you dont get the same feeling with a controller, just doesn't work. PC is where the FPS was born, and theres a good reason for this.
Even though i know i could do that, i prefer the simplicity of a console We continue to change the topic, fact is shooters are best on PC, that is all there is to it really. It's not, it's actually the worst cause of the constant hackers/cheaters, fact.[QUOTE="smartcriminal"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] so plug in a controller.millerlight89
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]We continue to change the topic, fact is shooters are best on PC, that is all there is to it really. It's not, it's actually the worst cause of the constant hackers/cheaters, fact.[QUOTE="smartcriminal"] Even though i know i could do that, i prefer the simplicity of a consoleroflumadkid
Uh, I play FPS on the PC, I have not encountered hackers/cheaters.
It's not, it's actually the worst cause of the constant hackers/cheaters, fact.[QUOTE="roflumadkid"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] We continue to change the topic, fact is shooters are best on PC, that is all there is to it really.
Xtasy26
Uh, I play FPS on the PC, I have not encountered hackers/cheaters.
Such as? I bought mw2 on my PC and played like 20 games, and atleast 10 of them had some type of hacker. Mainly the floating/super jump hack or whatever, or the automatically change map to rust and unlimited noobtubes/ammo. Never had any of these issues on the 360 version. Nearly every single PC game has a ton of hackers, whether it's WoW or some FPS.[QUOTE="Xtasy26"][QUOTE="roflumadkid"] It's not, it's actually the worst cause of the constant hackers/cheaters, fact.roflumadkid
Uh, I play FPS on the PC, I have not encountered hackers/cheaters.
Such as? I bought mw2 on my PC and played like 20 games, and atleast 10 of them had some type of hacker. Mainly the floating/super jump hack or whatever, or the automatically change map to rust and unlimited noobtubes/ammo. Never had any of these issues on the 360 version. Nearly every single PC game has a ton of hackers, whether it's WoW or some FPS.Well mostly steam games, I had 0 problems with it (TF2, LF4D, Counterstrike, etc, SFIV, etc). I also didn't have problems with MW2. I know that Steam is pretty strict about cheating. So, you can't generalize. It depends on the game I suppose and users.
I enjoy shooters on the PS3 as much as i enjoy shooters on the 360. Btoh systems feel good to me while playing.
It's not, it's actually the worst cause of the constant hackers/cheaters, fact.[QUOTE="roflumadkid"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] We continue to change the topic, fact is shooters are best on PC, that is all there is to it really.
Xtasy26
Uh, I play FPS on the PC, I have not encountered hackers/cheaters.
both statements are equally ridiculous. There is absolutely no way you've never run into a hacker before in a PC game. at the same time "roflumadkid", how about trying out some protected servers? You know, one's that have anti-cheat programs (like the majority of the steam games). Granted, there are coders out there that can bypass those anticheat mods easily but, it definitely tones down the frequency of 'cheaters'.
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