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#1 PS3nut
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You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

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#2 rybe1025
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Someone seems to be drinking to much of the Sony Kool-Aid
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#3 st1ka
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microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so no
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#4 johnnyblazed88
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your sure by 2010 they'll have a new xbox? haha u fail
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#5 BioShockOwnz
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It doesn't matter to me. I'm getting amazing games on the #2 and #3, while I get shovelware on #1. Best selling means squat to me anymore.
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Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as wellPS3nut
This is all just mindless speculation. Speculation, I say!
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#7 360-ps3-wii-pc
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Tell that to Square.
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#8 BIOWAREISKING
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your ignorance disgusts me blu-ray is going no where sony has dropped the price of the ps3 just as much as ms did with the 360 360 is profitable 360 is selling more hardware and software than ps3 epic fail
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#9 360-ps3-wii-pc
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your ignorance disgusts me blu-ray is going no where sony has dropped the price of the ps3 just as much as ms did with the 360 360 is profitable 360 is selling more hardware and software than ps3 epic failBIOWAREISKING
not to mention all the once touted 3rd party dev's for Sony have made an interesting move this gen. That alone shows the confidence in the PS3 as a viable platform to sell your games at a profit has become more and more doubtful in their eye's. but why would that matter. The funny thing is how long ago the PS3 fans were laughing saying never on the 360 cause it cant do it. Now most of those games are on the 360. When will people learn?
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You are a disgrace to Sony! and the PS3!
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#11 dotWithShoes
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[QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"]your ignorance disgusts me blu-ray is going no where sony has dropped the price of the ps3 just as much as ms did with the 360 360 is profitable 360 is selling more hardware and software than ps3 epic fail360-ps3-wii-pc
not to mention all the once touted 3rd party dev's for Sony have made an interesting move this gen. That alone shows the confidence in the PS3 as a viable platform to sell your games at a profit has become more and more doubtful in their eye's. but why would that matter. The funny thing is how long ago the PS3 fans were laughing saying never on the 360 cause it cant do it. Now most of those games are on the 360. When will people learn?

now they are sayin, well it would have looked better if it was PS3 only.
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#13 torontomapleafs
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Ok... Untill than i'll be enjoying Halo 3, Gears 2, Forza 3, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, Fable 2, and many more that i will be hearing about this upcoming July or earlier.
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#14 SemiMaster
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microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so nost1ka
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.
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#15 Munasha
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why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.
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why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.Munasha
thanks for proving ps3 is irrelevant.

oh and playing my games on vista> paying $50 for quake 4 on a mac

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why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.Munasha
I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place.
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#18 BIOWAREISKING
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so noSemiMaster
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

no linky no facty oh and sony has already started development on the "ps4" since they have already stated it would use a new cell cpu which is in the oven.
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#19 Kratos_OMEGA
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Ps2- 130 Million Xbox - 25 Million Ps3 - 17 million+ 360 - 24 Million + Gigantic difference in previous marketshare. MS are pissing on Sony at the moment.
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why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.Munasha
As far as the Wii most 360 fans on here are not worried about the Wii if it sells great or bad. They just want to see the 360 sell more then the PS3 and see the PS3 stay in last place. As of right now that is happening so thats all that matters.
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#21 BIOWAREISKING
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[QUOTE="Munasha"]why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.360-ps3-wii-pc
I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place.

he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game console
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#22 BIOWAREISKING
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Ps2- 130 Million Xbox - 25 Million Ps3 - 17 million+ 360 - 24 Million + Gigantic difference in previous marketshare. MS are pissing on Sony at the moment.Kratos_OMEGA
ms has all ready said the 360 outsold the xbox already
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so noSemiMaster
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

if you believe this FACT then you are sadly confused. Consoles hit the drawing board pretty much as soon as the current gen one releases. You think Sony is gonna wait until 2010 to start designing a system?
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#24 PS3nut
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[QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"][QUOTE="Munasha"]why do 360 fan boys keep talking about sales. Windows sells more than Mac but that doesn't mean its better. and also if its all about sells then wii is sellin more hardware and software than 360 so i guess its the best console out there then.BIOWAREISKING
I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place.

he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game console

Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.
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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so nodotWithShoes
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

if you believe this FACT then you are sadly confused. Consoles hit the drawing board pretty much as soon as the current gen one releases. You think Sony is gonna wait until 2010 to start designing a system?

If the console is meant to stay viable in the market 10 years (as opposed to the standard of 5), then maybe...it'd be a way to slash the R&D costs, for sure. And are you sure Sony is still banking on Cells? Because didn't they withdraw from the consortium that helped to make them?
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#26 BIOWAREISKING
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[QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"][QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"] I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place. PS3nut
he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game console

Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.

almost 2 times as many A+ titles= ps3 being an inferior gaming console

run along now

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[QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"][QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"] I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place. PS3nut
he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game console

Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.

And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"] The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

if you believe this FACT then you are sadly confused. Consoles hit the drawing board pretty much as soon as the current gen one releases. You think Sony is gonna wait until 2010 to start designing a system?

If the console is meant to stay viable in the market 10 years (as opposed to the standard of 5), then maybe...it'd be a way to slash the R&D costs, for sure. And are you sure Sony is still banking on Cells? Because didn't they withdraw from the consortium that helped to make them?

Never said Sony was going to go cell next time around.
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:lol: all the OP was missing was "(good read)" in the title. This one is too easy for me to even try lol
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your sure by 2010 they'll have a new xbox? haha u failjohnnyblazed88

At least back up your 'fail' remark with evidence. YOU fail :P

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#31 Fizzman
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so whats Sony gonna do next gen when it doesnt have a 120million userbase to carry an incredibly overpriced system with almost no games for its 1st year? If you think this gen is bad for Sony wait till next gen when MS actually has alot more respect in the industry then it did with the xbox.

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#32 HuusAsking
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Never said Sony was going to go cell next time around.dotWithShoes
My note was in reply to the following message on the first page:
oh and sony has already started development on the "ps4" since they have already stated it would use a new cell cpu which is in the oven.BIOWAREISKING
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#33 BIOWAREISKING
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]your sure by 2010 they'll have a new xbox? haha u failsuper_biohazard

At least back up your 'fail' remark with evidence. YOU fail :P

lol evidence
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You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

PS3nut

Oh geez, there are so many things wrong with this post that I don't know where to start...

The PS3 is ten times more better (someone needs to brush up on his sentence structure...) equipped than the PS2? Did it hurt when you pulled that figure out of your ass? Secondly, Microsoft could have a ten year life cycle in store for the Xbox 360. If you'll recall, they've already said they'll continue to make it as long as its profitable.

Check the links here and here if you don't believe me.

Now hold on. According to you, the Xbox was an "utter failure" but in the same breath, you admonish MS for taking it off the market after 4 years? Contradictory much? :? Second, yeah, the Xbox 360 is getting cheaper to make, just like the PS2 is. Because of that, the cheaper it gets to make, the more money MS stands to make from it. It's never going to get so cheap that it's not worth manufactuing any more until long after the next Xbox is released and as far as we know, that could be another five years from now. Again, as long as it's selling, MS is going to manufacture it as it just equals more money in their wallets. I don't know where you're getting your logic from.

Microsoft also stated that the next Xbox will not release until around 2011 - 2012. Unless you've forgotten, that's the same lifecycle as the PS2. The PS2 was released in 2000 and the PS3 was released in 2006. If the next Xbox releases in November of 2011, that'll be six years, just like the PS2 and PS3 so unless you constitute the PS3 being a rip off back in 2006, your point fails. The price of Xbox Live didn't increase when the Xbox 360 released so why would it increase when the next Xbox is released? Oh, and by the way, you don't honestly think Sony isn't going to release the PS4 around 2012 do you?

The Xbox 360 is in it for the long haul as well. You can believe it or not but you'll see how wrong you are in a few years. :wink:

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You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

PS3nut

My God I have to drag this rebuttall out of long lost documents. Good thing I put this into a word document over a year ago becuase I got sick of rewriting back then. And it seems it was worth because even now it is being brough back up. Well the below is old but still counters your entire point I am just to lazy to update it:

No more support for 360 after 2009

It seems this totally illogical statement is making a huge comeback. I have seen 3 or 4 thread in the last three days with some reference to it. Can we please just kill this mistaken belief already. The reason Sony still supports the PS2 and MS stopped supporting XBox is very simple:

The PS2 is a cash cow for Sony so why would they kill it off? They own all the components so were able to decrease costs to the point where they are making a profit while selling it for $129. The original XBox was made of all third party components which MS has no control over - therefore making it unprofitable even at$170, so of course they stopped production when the 360 began.

With the 360 MS owns the components and will be able to reduce cost in the same way as SONY did with PS2 and will with PS3.

Do you really think if the PS2 was unprofitable at this point Sony would still be producing and backing it?

The fact is PS2 is at this time subsidizing the PS3, why would Sony kill off what at this point is keeping them afloat. On the other hand original Xbox at this point would be an anchor around MS's ankle. 360 after two years has become profitable on the hardware side, they will not kill it off immediately as it will subsidize the next Xbox in its first two years of existence.

The only reason the PS2 is still supported is because it is profitable, not because Sony loves you.

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so noSemiMaster
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

How do you know that? You don't have any proof to back up your claims. As far as you or I know, Sony could've started development on the PS4 months ago and we just haven't heard of it yet.

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[QUOTE="PS3nut"][QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"]he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game consoleHuusAsking
Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.

And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

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#38 st1ka
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="PS3nut"] Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.PS3nut

And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

oh my god :lol: this entire post is sig worthy :lol:

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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="PS3nut"] Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.PS3nut

And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

:lol: Tell me you didn't just compare the PS3 to the Matrix. :lol:
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.The_Game21x

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

:lol: Tell me you didn't just compare the PS3 to the Matrix. :lol:

doesn't NEO die in the end on the third movie? and by end i mean when they actually reach a TIE in the war

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The Matrix?!? That Sony brand kool-aid really f's up your mind...
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I don't really the third party developers think that way. Also...are Sony fanboys getting so desperate the only thing they can argue anymore is with the Playstation 2!? How about buying a 360 and enjoying good games THIS generation? While it last, and not when Sony has made their "comeback" in 2099.
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.st1ka

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

oh my god :lol: this entire post is sig worthy :lol:

I agree that is sig worthy in a major way. That post of his reached epic status.
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Wow, reading this just made my brain hurt. I need to relieve the pressure, wheres my drill?

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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="PS3nut"] Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.PS3nut

And yet it's so difficult to use that no one wants to bother with it. It's PlayStation vs. Saturn, only the wrong shoe is on Sony's foot. Power means nothing if you can't employ it right. It's like a muscle car with bad intakes and shoddy tires.

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

And then again, what if everything just slowed to a crawl--or even worse, simply crashed--because what you are trying to do is above and beyond the ceiling of the hardware's capabilities. Put it this way. Can you expect a baseline Core 2 Duo with a two-gen old graphics card to run Crysis at Ultra High settings at 1920x1080p and expect it to pump out 60fps locked? I sincerely hope you answer "NO". It all comes down to the absolute potential of the PS3...and the learning curve (which, as the Saturn proved, can be too steep. There's also that unreasonably high goal Sony set back in 2005 which set many people's expectations in stone (word to the wise: do not make claims no matter how humble unless you're prepared to back it up).
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

"to help you sleep at night." ..... why do fanboys always throw in this cliche? Do you have a lot of trouble sleeping at night due to the console sales war? Anyway, anyone who thinks that Sony will make the same mistake AGAIN and allow MS to get a head start is deluded. Anyone who thinks that the PS3 will enjoy the life-cycle longevity of the PS2 with it's 110+ million install base is deluded. For those keeping a count at home, that's deluded twice over.
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[QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"][QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"] I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place. PS3nut
he's just mad he paid more for the inferior video game console

Inferior game console ? why don't you go get a side by side tech spec sheet of each and give us the link. Don't worry i won't blame you if you don't want to do it and embarrass the 360, because excluding sales, the PS3 is the most technologically advanced console on the market.

I can grant this, but it brings 2 questions to mind. 1) Why do so many multiplats still suffer on the PS3 if it is so advanced? 2) In what way exactly did having advanced tech keep the original Xbox from getting jolly-stomped by the "inferior" PS2?
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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so nodotWithShoes
The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

if you believe this FACT then you are sadly confused. Consoles hit the drawing board pretty much as soon as the current gen one releases. You think Sony is gonna wait until 2010 to start designing a system?

I never said they weren't going to be making it, but it is a fact that the PS4 is still in negotiations of which company will be designing it. Absolute 100% fact.
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I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

PS3nut

If only a movie analogy could actually make "teh hidden powerz of teh cell" come to life... I wonder how hard it would be to think of a movie analogy where an over-arrogant blowhard throws it's weight around, only to be dealt a huge comeuppance at the end. Something in the vein of Caddyshack, maybe?

Sorry to say, recounting scenes from your favourite movie makes for poor evidence in a debate, and runs the risk of having to relive the exploits of Paulie Shore if you're not careful.

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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"] The Xbox 720 is in development at ATI/AMD right now, 2011 is the "theoretical earliest release date". The PS4 is not even in development yet. Fact.

if you believe this FACT then you are sadly confused. Consoles hit the drawing board pretty much as soon as the current gen one releases. You think Sony is gonna wait until 2010 to start designing a system?

I never said they weren't going to be making it, but it is a fact that the PS4 is still in negotiations of which company will be designing it. Absolute 100% fact.

lol whatever makes you feel special