360 Going to hold GTA:IV back?

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="md108"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Bigger =/= better

Vice City >>> San Andreas
Freebird8877

STRICTLY opinion. But for me, Vice City had a killer sound track, whereas San An's was bleh. And the comedy was a little more funny in VC, and Tommy...

Tomy was a true badass.

GTA 3 was an new experience and it was finally the full realization of what I always wanted. The Ability to roam freely through and entire city. No, it wasn't perfect, but it was something I always wanted in a game. Also the radio stations were hilarious.

GTA Vice City was cool because of the setting and the addition of motorcycles, flight and swimming. The soundtrack is probably undeniably one of the best, and the cast of characters and voice talent is of the same quality. The radio stations are still hilarious.

GTA San Andreas, love it or hate it, is a technical marvel with incredibly large game area with tons of stuff to do in it. The addition of parachuting, the casino games and the jetpack are really cool additions to the game... I really don't understand the hate that these games recieve. The stories are good, the voice acting is probably the best in the industry (Dennis Hopper, Samuel L.Jackson, Peter Fonda, Burt Reynolds, etc) and the gameplay is incredibly varied..These games are long and continue to be playable even after you finish them. I truly believe that a lot of people in System wars and on the internet in general that hate on GTA are posers trying to give themselves some sort of credibilty..

End rant.

agreed. DVD 9 limits developers.

360 is a next-gen console with a last gen format.


xxThyLordxx

In fact GTA was better on the Xbox.

This time around will it be held back? Nope. Why not? Well, if you ever try to fill a 9GB space with custom made textures, sounds, code etc., you'll appreciate just how much hard work goes into making video games. I know because I've done it. I worked for 6 months and barely filled a space of 2GB.

9 GB is plenty. It will be a while before DVD9 becomes obsolete.

Bigger =/= better

Vice City's story >>> San Andreas' story
foxhound_fox

Vice City >>>> San AndreasCwlHeddwyn

I think so. It would have been nice to see Rockstar fully explore blu-ray, but it looks like they won't be able to because of the 360's DVD-9 restraints. I am sure Rockstar will take full advantage of everything else on the PS3 though.KeyWii

[QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

We all know the PS3's Blu-Ray holds up to 50GB duel layer, but with DVD9, will 360 be holding PS3 GTA back from reaching it's full potential (ig: bigger map, more pedestrians,HD, sound) I'm just curious ;)

thinicer

[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

We all know the PS3's Blu-Ray holds up to 50GB duel layer, but with DVD9, will 360 be holding PS3 GTA back from reaching it's full potential (ig: bigger map, more pedestrians,HD, sound) I'm just curious ;)

iwishiwasrich

[QUOTE="iwishiwasrich"][QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

We all know the PS3's Blu-Ray holds up to 50GB duel layer, but with DVD9, will 360 be holding PS3 GTA back from reaching it's full potential (ig: bigger map, more pedestrians,HD, sound) I'm just curious ;)

thinicer

[QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
cutmaclass1

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]agreed. DVD 9 limits developers.

360 is a next-gen console with a last gen format.


CarlosPontinas

In fact GTA was better on the Xbox.

This time around will it be held back? Nope. Why not? Well, if you ever try to fill a 9GB space with custom made textures, sounds, code etc., you'll appreciate just how much hard work goes into making video games. I know because I've done it. I worked for 6 months and barely filled a space of 2GB.

9 GB is plenty. It will be a while before DVD9 becomes obsolete.

[QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
Me-Ur-Daddy

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Bigger =/= better

Vice City >>> San Andreas
Freebird8877

I have to disagree with you big time, In Vice City, the area was so small that it felt like i was restrained all the time, and with the loading screens between islands, that just killed it.  But in SA, i felt more free, especially without the loading screens. IMO, bigger is better, more freedom, more fun.

The quality of the game itself was better in Vice though. I could have fun in Vice just sitting in a car listening to the radio, or driving around seeing all the cool sights. San Andreas was so drab, even the Las Vegas strip at night was boring.

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
thinicer

because rockstar was committed to sony

[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
Kahuna_1

because rockstar was committed to sony

Nah, the PS3 is holding the 360 version back with its lesser graphics. jd7-03

The answer is still no.DaysAirlines

yup but i never even liked GTA in the first place.

[QUOTE="jd7-03"]Nah, the PS3 is holding the 360 version back with its lesser graphics. DaddyDC650

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]agreed. DVD 9 limits developers.

360 is a next-gen console with a last gen format.


Me-Ur-Daddy

In fact GTA was better on the Xbox.

This time around will it be held back? Nope. Why not? Well, if you ever try to fill a 9GB space with custom made textures, sounds, code etc., you'll appreciate just how much hard work goes into making video games. I know because I've done it. I worked for 6 months and barely filled a space of 2GB.

9 GB is plenty. It will be a while before DVD9 becomes obsolete.

What was the point of your response?

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
thinicer

because rockstar was committed to sony

first of all, the story behind that game is confusing...second of all, i was talking about GTA GTA2 GTA3 GTA VC and GTA SA all being on sonys system first.

God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
the-very-best

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows. 

Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.AvIdGaMeR444

I'll be interested to see how this works out. To tell the truth, Im confused how Rockstar will handle this. Does the PS3 get the higher res textures and more sound clips? 50GB is a lot after allflamingschmoes2

To have nice textures and a smooth flowing game you need RAM. The 360 has twice as much as the PS3.

Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.AvIdGaMeR444

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="jd7-03"]Nah, the PS3 is holding the 360 version back with its lesser graphics. jd7-03

[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="cutmaclass1"][QUOTE="thinicer"]
If the developers felt that DVD-9 would limit them then they would not have brought it to the Xbox 360 in the first place.
Kahuna_1

because rockstar was committed to sony

first of all, the story behind that game is confusing...second of all, i was talking about GTA GTA2 GTA3 GTA VC and GTA SA all being on sonys system first.

[QUOTE="jd7-03"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="jd7-03"]Nah, the PS3 is holding the 360 version back with its lesser graphics. DaddyDC650

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.Me-Ur-Daddy

seeing how Oblivion, Mass Effect, Saints Row, Crackdown and many other games fit easily onto a single DL DVD-9, i'm not worried about GTA4. Not one bit...Nedemis

[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]I'll be interested to see how this works out. To tell the truth, Im confused how Rockstar will handle this. Does the PS3 get the higher res textures and more sound clips? 50GB is a lot after allCarlosPontinas

To have nice textures and a smooth flowing game you need RAM. The 360 has twice as much as the PS3.

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.killaj2786

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="jd7-03"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="jd7-03"]Nah, the PS3 is holding the 360 version back with its lesser graphics. CarlosPontinas

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
CarlosPontinas

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]seeing how Oblivion, Mass Effect, Saints Row, Crackdown and many other games fit easily onto a single DL DVD-9, i'm not worried about GTA4. Not one bit...Me-Ur-Daddy

[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]I'll be interested to see how this works out. To tell the truth, Im confused how Rockstar will handle this. Does the PS3 get the higher res textures and more sound clips? 50GB is a lot after allCarlosPontinas

To have nice textures and a smooth flowing game you need RAM. The 360 has twice as much as the PS3.

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.Me-Ur-Daddy

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
the-very-best

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.

[QUOTE="mido275"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

We all know the PS3's Blu-Ray holds up to 50GB duel layer, but with DVD9, will 360 be holding PS3 GTA back from reaching it's full potential (ig: bigger map, more pedestrians,HD, sound) I'm just curious ;)

nextgengaming18

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
the-very-best

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
CarlosPontinas

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM. 

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content.  I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

[QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

We all know the PS3's Blu-Ray holds up to 50GB duel layer, but with DVD9, will 360 be holding PS3 GTA back from reaching it's full potential (ig: bigger map, more pedestrians,HD, sound) I'm just curious ;)

thinicer

yeah , i think you are right, and i also believe that Mass Effect will be bigger or if not the same size in terms of map space, and all that.......