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For all you lemmings out there, check out this link!

 http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide

On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he mentions the fact that he has spoken with developers about this subject. I personally think that the difference graphic wise will not be too great but the PS3 will have better looking games nonetheless. Enjoy!

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#102 Sir_Graham
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Unless they decide to make a HD movie instead of a game I can't see that happening.
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#103 killaj2786
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.
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#104 mentzer
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
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You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

if rockstar felt that way towards the DVD9 and the 360 they wouldn't be wasting their time making it for it

Absolutely not true.

Look at how much of a nightmare it was for developing for PS2 last gen. People were predicting that 3rd party devs were going to jump ship and bring their games to either the Xbox or GC because making games on those 2 consoles were so much more easier.

But the devs stuck with the difficult hardware and produced some of last gen's best games.

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Psssst! Lemmings! Check out the top post on this page before bashing the PS3 again k? Thank you and enjoy the video!
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#106 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

Make a game ;) And see how much space you can fill. Within a time limit. I bet its harder than you think ;)
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#107 mentzer
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
killaj2786

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.

 How much RAM will the PS3 have?
256MB of XDR Main RAM @ 3.2GHz and 256MB of GDDR3 VRAM @ 700MHz, or a total of 512MB for the entire system. The RSX graphics chip can actually use all 512MB of system RAM; it is not limited to the 256MB of GDDR3 RAM.  http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p2.html

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Know what you're posting before you post nonsense kid. 

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#108 CarlosPontinas
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The Xbox 360 has 512MB of revolutionary new Unified RAM that is much more advanced than the Non-Unified RAM used in the Playstation 3.

The Xbox 360 is the ONLY videogame console to use the new Unified RAM format. In an effort to keep costs as low as possible, the Playstatation 3 was forced to use the same old outdated Non-Unified RAM technology that has been used for decades.

Game developers are the ones who decide how to partition the fully optimized Unified RAM in any way they want. You can read about that here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/powerplay.htm

One of the reasons why the Xbox 360 version of Call of Duty 3 is better than the Playstation 3 version is because the Xbox 360 RAM is so much superior to the Playstation 3 RAM.

Both the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 have 512MB of RAM; however, the Xbox 360 uses revolutionary new Unified RAM technology that is fully optimized to work with both the Unified Shader GPU and the tri-core CPU.

Like I previously mentioned, the Playstation 3 uses the same old Non-Unified RAM technology that has been used for decades.

Basically, what this means is that the Non-Unified 512MB RAM in the Playstation 3 has two separate sections of RAM. The first section of RAM is 256MB of System RAM that is optimized to work with the CPU. The other section of RAM is 256MB of dedicated Video RAM that is optimized to work with the GPU.

Although the Playstation 3 GPU does technically have access to the CPU System RAM, it is VERY important to remember that the CPU RAM is NOT optimized to work with the GPU; that is NOT its primary function.

Whenever there is a need to use more than 256MB of Video RAM, the Playstation 3 is at a MAJOR disadvantage when compared to the Xbox 360, because the Non-VRAM CPU System RAM of the Playstation 3 offers a very ineffient level of performance when used by the GPU, simply because of the fact that the CPU System RAM is NOT a form of fully optimized Video-RAM.

In other words the PS3 is limited to 256mb of video ram and will always lag behind the 360.

http://www.1up.com/do/userFeedbackDetail?cId=3154633&r=7576937&ct=NEWS


[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM. 

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content.  I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

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For all you lemmings out there, check out this link! http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he speaks with developers all of the time and would not diss the Xbox 360 without knowing for sure that the PS3 will eventually pull ahead visually. If you deny this, you're nothing but a blind fanboy. Enjoy!!! DaddyDC650
What does that have to do wit this threaD!!!!!! GTa4 comes out in October...the dude said within 2 years.....which has nothing to do with this game....and making crystal balls dont mean anything...helll the ps3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 could be better than the 360's....no one kno\ws yet until the first game that shows the ps3 better shows up....Stop thinkin in the future!!! We play for now....notr for 2 years from now. So what are u saying u not gonna play mutiplatform video games for another two years?
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#110 DaddyDC650
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Hey CarlosPontinas, check out my post at the top of the page!!! You're going to love it! = P
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.

How much RAM will the PS3 have?
256MB of XDR Main RAM @ 3.2GHz and 256MB of GDDR3 VRAM @ 700MHz, or a total of 512MB for the entire system. The RSX graphics chip can actually use all 512MB of system RAM; it is not limited to the 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p2.html

.

Know what you're posting before you post nonsense kid.

Basically, what this means is that the Non-Unified 512MB RAM in the Playstation 3 has two separate sections of RAM. The first section of RAM is 256MB of System RAM that is optimized to work with the CPU. The other section of RAM is 256MB of dedicated Video RAM that is optimized to work with the GPU. http://www.1up.com/do/userFeedbackDetail?cId=3154633&r=7576937&ct=NEWS It's time u should take ur own advice.... Thanks Carlos : )
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
toxicmog

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

Make a game ;) And see how much space you can fill. Within a time limit. I bet its harder than you think ;)

Within a time limit it's always difficult to produce alot of content.

But it's a testimony to R*'s talent and dev size when they can put out a sequel like Vice City in just 12 months.

Plus, don't forget, onc of the data files that take up the most room is sound, and we all know how R* loves to create virtual radio stations, and tons of dialouge.

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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]For all you lemmings out there, check out this link! http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he speaks with developers all of the time and would not diss the Xbox 360 without knowing for sure that the PS3 will eventually pull ahead visually. If you deny this, you're nothing but a blind fanboy. Enjoy!!! killaj2786
What does that have to do wit this threaD!!!!!! GTa4 comes out in October...the dude said within 2 years.....which has nothing to do with this game....and making crystal balls dont mean anything...helll the ps3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 could be better than the 360's....no one kno\ws yet until the first game that shows the ps3 better shows up....Stop thinkin in the future!!! We play for now....notr for 2 years from now. So what are u saying u not gonna play mutiplatform video games for another two years?

What does my post have to do with this thread? This thread is about how either the 360 or the PS3 will hold GTA 4 back. I'm proving to you that the 360 has the best chance of holding the game back because the PS3 is a more powerful system according to the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 @ IGN and the DEVELOPERS he has spoken to. In my opinion, I think that both versions of GTA 4 will either be exactly alike or the PS3 will have a few features that the 360 version will not. Nothing to brag about though. Check out the video before you get all upset. You'll love it. = P
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.killaj2786
San Andreas took only  3.9  GBs... less than.half of a DVD9.....and u saw that world... think wut they would do for GTA4...

Ok...I stand corrected.  But remember that San Andreas for PS2 didn't have 480p which in itself saves a lot more space than 480i.  Trying to fit a constantly streaming, no load time 720p game on a DVD9 has to be a challenge for RockStar, especially if the game is as large as San Andreas. 

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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.AvIdGaMeR444

San Andreas took only  3.9  GBs... less than.half of a DVD9.....and u saw that world... think wut they would do for GTA4...

Ok...I stand corrected.  But remember that San Andreas for PS2 didn't have 480p which in itself takes up a lot more space than 480i.  Trying to fit a constantly streaming, no load time 720p game on a DVD9 has to be a challenge for RockStar, especially if the game is as large as San Andreas. 

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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yes, the 360 will hold back GTAIV....GTAIV will still be an incredible game, but there will be sacrifices made to fit everything on DVD9. San Andreas for the PS2 nearly took up all the space right? Even with much better compression methods being used nowadays, RockStar will have to scale down aspects of the game to fit on the 360 DVD.AvIdGaMeR444

San Andreas took only 3.9 GBs... less than.half of a DVD9.....and u saw that world... think wut they would do for GTA4...

Ok...I stand corrected. But remember that San Andreas for PS2 didn't have 480p which in itself saves a lot more space than 480i. Trying to fit a constantly streaming, no load time 720p game on a DVD9 has to be a challenge for RockStar, especially if the game is as large as San Andreas.

I agre...on some aspect....tho...u seen games like Oblivion and wut the can do.... sthe same can be done on GTA4.
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]For all you lemmings out there, check out this link! http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he speaks with developers all of the time and would not diss the Xbox 360 without knowing for sure that the PS3 will eventually pull ahead visually. If you deny this, you're nothing but a blind fanboy. Enjoy!!! killaj2786
What does that have to do wit this threaD!!!!!! GTa4 comes out in October...the dude said within 2 years.....which has nothing to do with this game....and making crystal balls dont mean anything...helll the ps3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 could be better than the 360's....no one kno\ws yet until the first game that shows the ps3 better shows up....Stop thinkin in the future!!! We play for now....notr for 2 years from now. So what are u saying u not gonna play mutiplatform video games for another two years?

What does my post have to do with this thread? This thread is about how either the 360 or the PS3 will hold GTA 4 back. I'm proving to you that the 360 has the best chance of holding the game back because the PS3 is a more powerful system according to the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 @ IGN and the DEVELOPERS he has spoken to.. Check out the video before you get all upset. You'll love it. = P

IN 2 YEARS!!! 2 YEars is not October ditwit.....learn to post some accurate for once... Damn these fanboys get on my nerves... And u diddnt read my whole post...

Yes, MAYBE in 2 years. He's not a psychic. I'm guessing more like 1 year. Rockstar is more than likely creating both versions to be identical. What's going to happen when they release GTA 5 in two years or so? Hmmmmm... LoL! Btw, I own both an Xbox 360 and a PS3. One last thing. I am doing nothing but giving out my opinion and linking people to a great video that will educate lemmings. No need to insult me with name calling. I must have hit a nerve. = )
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
killaj2786

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.

How much RAM will the PS3 have?
256MB of XDR Main RAM @ 3.2GHz and 256MB of GDDR3 VRAM @ 700MHz, or a total of 512MB for the entire system. The RSX graphics chip can actually use all 512MB of system RAM; it is not limited to the 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p2.html

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Know what you're posting before you post nonsense kid.

Basically, what this means is that the Non-Unified 512MB RAM in the Playstation 3 has two separate sections of RAM. The first section of RAM is 256MB of System RAM that is optimized to work with the CPU. The other section of RAM is 256MB of dedicated Video RAM that is optimized to work with the GPU. http://www.1up.com/do/userFeedbackDetail?cId=3154633&r=7576937&ct=NEWS It's time u should take ur own advice.... Thanks Carlos : )

Did you just post a opinion from a 1up memeber feedback???

:lol:

Anyway, here is a excerpt from YOUR link.


"Although the Playstation 3 GPU does technically have access to the CPU System RAM, it is VERY important to remember that the CPU RAM is NOT optimized to work with the GPU; that is NOT its primary function."

Now whether this "member" is correct about the effeciency or not, that is not the point of my post.

The RSX has access to 512MB of memory.

Try again.

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#120 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

Make a game ;) And see how much space you can fill. Within a time limit. I bet its harder than you think ;)

Within a time limit it's always difficult to produce alot of content.

But it's a testimony to R*'s talent and dev size when they can put out a sequel like Vice City in just 12 months.

Plus, don't forget, onc of the data files that take up the most room is sound, and we all know how R* loves to create virtual radio stations, and tons of dialouge.

They're all MP3s.
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[QUOTE="akif22"] they can release it one more than one disc if they really want to

How? You'd have to put in the 2nd disc for a different area. That wouldn't work in a game as open as GTA.
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Hey CarlosPontinas, you check out the video yet? It'll prove that your opinions about the PS3 mean jack according to developers and IGN's own editor-in-chief of Xbox 360. I'll hook you up with the link again k?

http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide

On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. It'll be @ the 1:20 mark.

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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="toxicmog"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
CarlosPontinas

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

Make a game ;) And see how much space you can fill. Within a time limit. I bet its harder than you think ;)

Within a time limit it's always difficult to produce alot of content.

But it's a testimony to R*'s talent and dev size when they can put out a sequel like Vice City in just 12 months.

Plus, don't forget, onc of the data files that take up the most room is sound, and we all know how R* loves to create virtual radio stations, and tons of dialouge.

They're all MP3s.

And your point?

Plus, don't forget with Blu-Ray R* could go for the higher bit rate and produce much better sound.

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Yes, MAYBE in 2 years. He's not a psychic. I'm guessing more like 1 year. Rockstar is more than likely creating both versions to be identical. What's going to happen when they release GTA 5 in two years or so? Hmmmmm... LoL! Btw, I own both an Xbox 360 and a PS3. One last thing. I am doing nothing but giving out my opinion and linking people to a great video that will educate lemmings. No need to insult me with name calling. I must have hit a nerve. = ) DaddyDC650

The only education need here is a crash course in reality. The PS3 is flawed and limited to 256mb of dedicated video RAM. There's no point in worrying about storage when your machine can't even process basic graphics.

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Actually 360 will have more content than the ps3 version.MTBare
how do you know this
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So I'm guessing you do not want to get owned, CarlosPontinas? Do us all a favor and check the video out. Educate yourself on how the PS3 is indeed more powerful than the 360 no matter what you might think. =)
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]For all you lemmings out there, check out this link! http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he speaks with developers all of the time and would not diss the Xbox 360 without knowing for sure that the PS3 will eventually pull ahead visually. If you deny this, you're nothing but a blind fanboy. Enjoy!!! DaddyDC650
What does that have to do wit this threaD!!!!!! GTa4 comes out in October...the dude said within 2 years.....which has nothing to do with this game....and making crystal balls dont mean anything...helll the ps3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 could be better than the 360's....no one kno\ws yet until the first game that shows the ps3 better shows up....Stop thinkin in the future!!! We play for now....notr for 2 years from now. So what are u saying u not gonna play mutiplatform video games for another two years?

What does my post have to do with this thread? This thread is about how either the 360 or the PS3 will hold GTA 4 back. I'm proving to you that the 360 has the best chance of holding the game back because the PS3 is a more powerful system according to the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 @ IGN and the DEVELOPERS he has spoken to.. Check out the video before you get all upset. You'll love it. = P

IN 2 YEARS!!! 2 YEars is not October ditwit.....learn to post some accurate for once... Damn these fanboys get on my nerves... And u diddnt read my whole post...

Yes, MAYBE in 2 years. He's not a psychic. I'm guessing more like 1 year. Rockstar is more than likely creating both versions to be identical. What's going to happen when they release GTA 5 in two years or so? Hmmmmm... LoL!

Which goes bakk to my question: wut the hell does this have to wit
[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.

How much RAM will the PS3 have?
256MB of XDR Main RAM @ 3.2GHz and 256MB of GDDR3 VRAM @ 700MHz, or a total of 512MB for the entire system. The RSX graphics chip can actually use all 512MB of system RAM; it is not limited to the 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p2.html

.

Know what you're posting before you post nonsense kid.

Basically, what this means is that the Non-Unified 512MB RAM in the Playstation 3 has two separate sections of RAM. The first section of RAM is 256MB of System RAM that is optimized to work with the CPU. The other section of RAM is 256MB of dedicated Video RAM that is optimized to work with the GPU. http://www.1up.com/do/userFeedbackDetail?cId=3154633&r=7576937&ct=NEWS It's time u should take ur own advice.... Thanks Carlos : )

Did you just post a opinion from a 1up memeber feedback???

:lol:

Anyway, here is a excerpt from YOUR link.


"Although the Playstation 3 GPU does technically have access to the CPU System RAM, it is VERY important to remember that the CPU RAM is NOT optimized to work with the GPU; that is NOT its primary function."

Now whether this "member" is correct about the effeciency or not, that is not the point of my post.

The RSX has access to 512MB of memory.

Try again.

I never it didnt dude...I'm saying that they way they're optizimed, the 360 seems more to have 512 RAm than the ps3 does.... Just beacause it has access to the Ram doesnt mean it'll be able to use it all...
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GTA4 had better not be 'held back.'  If they have to make different versions of the game, then, so be it!  The game should only be on the PS3, anyway.  Rockstar lost it.
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So I'm guessing you do not want to get owned? Do us all a favor and check the video out. Educate yourself about how the PS3 is indeed more powerful than the 360 no matter what you might think. =)DaddyDC650
My friend. Quit with this denial.

The PS3 has a literal bandwidth bottleneck when it comes to rendering certain graphical components, like textures, maps etc. This cannot be cured unless the hardware is changed.

The PS3 cannot handle the load a 360 takes for granted.

Instead of DVD9 holding Rockstar back it's the PS3 hardware they're worrying about.

GTA IV on the PS3 will look bad compared to the 360 version, or else the 360 version will be dumbed down so that no one notices the discrepancy.

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Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Obviously I've hit a nerve right? Sad... how mature to insult someone instead of arguing like mature adults. I'm guessing you're an adult correct? Anyways, keep that video bookmarked. LoL!
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Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?DaddyDC650
Read slowly.

256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

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#132 CarlosPontinas
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GTA4 had better not be 'held back.'  If they have to make different versions of the game, then, so be it!  The game should only be on the PS3, anyway.  Rockstar lost it.mc2k4
Unfortunately the only thing holding them back is the PS3.
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#133 mentzer
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]For all you lemmings out there, check out this link! http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/gamehead/index.jhtml?open=episodeGuide On the left side of that page under "Gamehead: Episode Guide", click on Ep 1: 2007 Preview. Once you click on it, the web page will reveal all 4 parts. Click on Episode 4. @ the 1:20 mark, the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN will ADMIT that within 2 years, the PS3 will have more to offer graphically in games when compared to the 360. Keep in mind that he speaks with developers all of the time and would not diss the Xbox 360 without knowing for sure that the PS3 will eventually pull ahead visually. If you deny this, you're nothing but a blind fanboy. Enjoy!!! killaj2786
What does that have to do wit this threaD!!!!!! GTa4 comes out in October...the dude said within 2 years.....which has nothing to do with this game....and making crystal balls dont mean anything...helll the ps3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 could be better than the 360's....no one kno\ws yet until the first game that shows the ps3 better shows up....Stop thinkin in the future!!! We play for now....notr for 2 years from now. So what are u saying u not gonna play mutiplatform video games for another two years?

What does my post have to do with this thread? This thread is about how either the 360 or the PS3 will hold GTA 4 back. I'm proving to you that the 360 has the best chance of holding the game back because the PS3 is a more powerful system according to the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 @ IGN and the DEVELOPERS he has spoken to.. Check out the video before you get all upset. You'll love it. = P

IN 2 YEARS!!! 2 YEars is not October ditwit.....learn to post some accurate for once... Damn these fanboys get on my nerves... And u diddnt read my whole post...

Yes, MAYBE in 2 years. He's not a psychic. I'm guessing more like 1 year. Rockstar is more than likely creating both versions to be identical. What's going to happen when they release GTA 5 in two years or so? Hmmmmm... LoL!

Which goes bakk to my question: wut the hell does this have to wit
[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]God, I hope not.

I've worried so much about this but I have a lot of faith in Rockstar and I know they're going to amaze me. They continue to do it every time they release a new GTA so I don't see why this time will be an exception.

This is the major reason I don't like games going multiplat.
mentzer

You act as if the dynamic is in PS's favor!! Truth be told it's the 360 owners who should be worried about getting a delayed version with washed out mapping and terrible draw distances, just so as to placate the cows.



SA, a last gen game with rather mediocre graphics took up 4GB from memory.

I don't want Rockstar to feel constrained to have to try and fit GTAIV in 9GB when they have the potential for so much more. There's rumours GTAIV will be (or was supposed to be) 9 times the size of SA.

I want GTAIV to be the best it can be, and I don't feel it's going to be now that it's on 2 platforms from day one but I'd love to be proved wrong by Rockstar because GTAIV is by far my most anticipated game of this year.

The problem here is you don't understand what it takes to fill GBs of disk space. If SA is 4GB (and that's a huge game BTW), then what makes you think RS needs more than twice that space for GTA IV? What are you expecting-- photorealism? Also what makes you think your PS3 could handle that? It only has 256mb of RAM.

PS3 has 512MB of RAM.

I do see possible problems that R* could face on the 360 version due to the media, since Blu-Ray allows for so much content and doesn't burden the developer with having to make sacrifices due to needed compression routines.

GTA is all about content, content and content. I'm sure R* is smiling about Blu-Ray and frowning about DVD9.

A) Actually the PS3 has a 256 MB of Ram for the CPu and 256 RAM for the GPU, While the 360 have 516 For both makes it easier to develop, I wouldnt be suprised if the 360 verison is the main focus right now and the PS3 version is the side order.... B) I guess u never heard of Downloadable content.

How much RAM will the PS3 have?
256MB of XDR Main RAM @ 3.2GHz and 256MB of GDDR3 VRAM @ 700MHz, or a total of 512MB for the entire system. The RSX graphics chip can actually use all 512MB of system RAM; it is not limited to the 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p2.html

.

Know what you're posting before you post nonsense kid.

Basically, what this means is that the Non-Unified 512MB RAM in the Playstation 3 has two separate sections of RAM. The first section of RAM is 256MB of System RAM that is optimized to work with the CPU. The other section of RAM is 256MB of dedicated Video RAM that is optimized to work with the GPU. http://www.1up.com/do/userFeedbackDetail?cId=3154633&r=7576937&ct=NEWS It's time u should take ur own advice.... Thanks Carlos : )

Did you just post a opinion from a 1up memeber feedback???

:lol:

Anyway, here is a excerpt from YOUR link.


"Although the Playstation 3 GPU does technically have access to the CPU System RAM, it is VERY important to remember that the CPU RAM is NOT optimized to work with the GPU; that is NOT its primary function."

Now whether this "member" is correct about the effeciency or not, that is not the point of my post.

The RSX has access to 512MB of memory.

Try again.

I never it didnt dude...I'm saying that they way they're optizimed, the 360 seems more to have 512 RAm than the ps3 does.... Just beacause it has access to the Ram doesnt mean it'll be able to use it all...

Your post makes no sense what so ever.

And your link came from a member on the 1up network named mike_ mgoblue who used sources like theinquirer and OXM and msxbox-world. 

You think maybe it's a little biased??  :roll:

Get a link from a dev stating the same think and then you'll have a point.

And you did post that the PS3 only has 256 MB of RAM for the RSX and Cell..  Stop trying to backtrack, you'll only make yourself look bad.

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#134 DaddyDC650
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?CarlosPontinas

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

Did you even check the video out? If developers could only use 256mb of video ram, how are the PS3 LAUNCH TITLE ports like COD 3 for example look just as good as the 360's? Why would developers and even the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN admit that the PS3 is more powerful? You're in la la land my friend. Check the video out if you haven't already k?
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#136 mentzer
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?CarlosPontinas

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

I love these kids that completely ignore the fact that the RSX can use all of the 512 MB of RAM. 

Like it doesn't exist in their little minds  :lol:

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#137 DaddyDC650
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Obviously I've hit a nerve right? Sad... how mature to insult someone instead of arguing like mature adults. I'm guessing you're an adult correct? Anyways, keep that video bookmarked. LoL!killaj2786
Lord....help this child since he doesnt kno wut ditwit means cuz he as well be a nitwit...So he can stop bein the biased fanboy he is, sttart postin accurate info and stop think bout the future but the here and now....... thank u....gnight

Ditwit isn't really a word and you have tons of problems even spelling simple words correctly like "wut". It's spelled WHAT. You're nothing but a lemming who fails to realize the truth. Check out the video again k? LoL! Kids these days...
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#138 killaj2786
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?DaddyDC650

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

Did you even check the video out? If developers could only use 256mb of video ram, how are the PS3 LAUNCH TITLE ports like COD 3 for example look just as good as the 360's? Why would developers and even the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN admit that the PS3 is more powerful? You're in la la land my friend. Check the video out if you haven't already k?



http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/p-2.html

ORLY?

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#139 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?mentzer

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

I love these kids that completely ignore the fact that the RSX can use all of the 512 MB of RAM. 

Like it doesn't exist in their little minds  :lol:

...at a cost. It taxes important things like refresh rates. it's why PS3 games look jerky and slow. 
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#140 Vyse_The_Daring
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GTA4 had better not be 'held back.'  If they have to make different versions of the game, then, so be it!  The game should only be on the PS3, anyway.  Rockstar lost it.mc2k4
Why should it be? Sounds like sour grapes over Sony losing one of their biggest exclusives.
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#141 DaddyDC650
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killaj2786, OMG!! DId you even check out those screenshots? THE TEXTURES LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME! Sure the PS3 version looks a little brighter but, THE TEXTURES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME! Pwned? Lmao!
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#142 killaj2786
Member since 2006 • 2531 Posts
[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Obviously I've hit a nerve right? Sad... how mature to insult someone instead of arguing like mature adults. I'm guessing you're an adult correct? Anyways, keep that video bookmarked. LoL!DaddyDC650
Lord....help this child since he doesnt kno wut ditwit means cuz he as well be a nitwit...So he can stop bein the biased fanboy he is, sttart postin accurate info and stop think bout the future but the here and now....... thank u....gnight

Ditwit isn't really a word and you have tons of problems even spelling simple words correctly like "wut". It's spelled WHAT. You're nothing but a lemming who fails to realize the truth. Check out the video again k? LoL! Kids these days...

It's a forum. U really don't need to correct ur words.....I'm pretty sure ur a little 13 year fanboy that lives in his a room all day tryin to argue sayin he's an adult and the proof u have is from an editor...not devleopr but editor on something that wont happen for two years.....MAy GOD help u.
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#143 Aldojr000
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Why not, right now only GTA4 devs know how big the game its going to be.
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#144 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?DaddyDC650

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

Did you even check the video out? If developers could only use 256mb of video ram, how are the PS3 LAUNCH TITLE ports like COD 3 for example look just as good as the 360's? Why would developers and even the editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN admit that the PS3 is more powerful? You're in la la land my friend. Check the video out if you haven't already k?

Maybe you think the words of a developer will miraculously upgrade all PS3 SKUs. Understand that the problem is a design flaw.

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#146 joe_g_patton
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Has a PS3 multiplat outscored the 360 version yet?  I would ask the question:  Will the PS3 keep the PS3 version of GTA IV from reaching it's potential?
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#147 solidx12
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i don't think so they can release it one more than one disc if they really want to and extra areas can always be added later via download onto the hard driveakif22

MONEY talks....

lol why would rockstar care about PS3 owners?

you can use some of my logic.

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#148 mentzer
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Self-owned?CarlosPontinas

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256mb of dedicated video ram.

That's all the PS3 has.

I love these kids that completely ignore the fact that the RSX can use all of the 512 MB of RAM. 

Like it doesn't exist in their little minds  :lol:

...at a cost. It taxes important things like refresh rates. it's why PS3 games look jerky and slow. 

Oh....so Resistence plays "jerky and slow".  :roll:

Guess that's why the online play is pratically lag free.

You have no idea what you're talking about and should be banned for making any future posts.

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#149 killaj2786
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Why not, right now only GTA4 devs know how big the game its going to be.Aldojr000
Thank u I hate stupid predictions from fanboys....I've made my point, owned this pathetic child 15 times and im goin to sleep thank u... good night.

Btw, I'm buyin a ps3.....it's just not worth it and the moment...
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#150 DaddyDC650
Member since 2007 • 1241 Posts
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Hey killaj2786, damage control much? I bet you loved that video eh? Btw, it's NITWIT. Not DITWIT. LMAO!!! Obviously I've hit a nerve right? Sad... how mature to insult someone instead of arguing like mature adults. I'm guessing you're an adult correct? Anyways, keep that video bookmarked. LoL!killaj2786
Lord....help this child since he doesnt kno wut ditwit means cuz he as well be a nitwit...So he can stop bein the biased fanboy he is, sttart postin accurate info and stop think bout the future but the here and now....... thank u....gnight

Ditwit isn't really a word and you have tons of problems even spelling simple words correctly like "wut". It's spelled WHAT. You're nothing but a lemming who fails to realize the truth. Check out the video again k? LoL! Kids these days...

It's a forum. U really don't need to correct ur words.....I'm pretty sure ur a little 13 year fanboy that lives in his a room all day tryin to argue sayin he's an adult and the proof u have is from an editor...not devleopr but editor on something that wont happen for two years.....MAy GOD help u.

OMFG!! Check the video out again. The editor-in-chief of Xbox 360 over @ IGN admitted that he SPOKE WITH DEVELOPERS ON THIS SUBJECT AND THAT THE PS3 IS INDEED MORE POWERFUL. He mentioned that once developers learn how the Cell works, PS3 games will have more to offer graphically when compared to the 360. Self-pwned FTW!