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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Flame1"]

http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html

interesting info on the state of the 360 (sales-wise as opposed to games-wise)

says that as of the date the article was written (4/10/2007), the 360 has yet to have sold 10 million unit. the article says that MS employed "channel stuffing" to allow them to announce higher sales figures than were true. also explains why MS officially announced the elite at the end of the quarter in order to boost sales figures through booking reservatons for the new console version. MS is undoubtedly in the lead for this game gen currently, but tactics such as these have an air of desperation and you can only wonder how long will its lead last? the article also has a whole bunch of intersting info on the dealings between the manufacters and the retailers.

Dualshockin

We all know MS are lying about their sales figures,why would they have to release another console to compete with the Ps3 if they're indeed selling so well? I'm guessing MS has only sold 7 million units,meaning the Wii will pass it next month,and Ps3 will pass it by Halloween.

please link MS' officially released sales figures..

all you EVER do is "guess"...:roll:

Those "Officially" released sales figures are false,as pointed out by that article. Ms have only sold 7 million units,and have 5 million Live users.

post them...

face it; you have NO "official sales" numbers from MS...

just third party conjecture...

spin it anyway you want, but the 360 is teh #1 console this gen...;)

There is no doubt the 360 is leading with 7 million sold,but how long will it take Ps3&Wii to pass it?A month?2 months?The issue is,MS have been lying about their sold units. Nothing surprising here.

please prove ms had lied... other than a blog... :roll:

until you do, you're just looking foolish..

ps.. you act like people have stopped buying the 360... you couldn't be more wrong...:lol:

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lol wtf type of source is that. JPOBS

What you don't know what informationarbitrage.com is? :o

How can you not know? /sarcasm

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="gmastersexay"][QUOTE="Flame1"]

http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html

interesting info on the state of the 360 (sales-wise as opposed to games-wise)

says that as of the date the article was written (4/10/2007), the 360 has yet to have sold 10 million unit. the article says that MS employed "channel stuffing" to allow them to announce higher sales figures than were true. also explains why MS officially announced the elite at the end of the quarter in order to boost sales figures through booking reservatons for the new console version. MS is undoubtedly in the lead for this game gen currently, but tactics such as these have an air of desperation and you can only wonder how long will its lead last? the article also has a whole bunch of intersting info on the dealings between the manufacters and the retailers.

skelebull3000

Read this earlier. Interesting read though.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/microsoft/microsofts-channel-stuffing-comes-unstuck-251281.php

 

It seems MS is getting a little desperate.

What would make you say that?

And how about this? Read it here

hee, hee...

now THAT'S desperation....:lol:

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THe Xbox 360 has definately sold 10 million consoles.  Taking into account that 10.4 million were sold to retailers in January, it's not hard to see that they have sold well over 10 million since those shipped.

Hell they have been outselling PS3 every month since it's release (Outside of the European launch), which adding up these numbers would mean it should be above 10 million.   All you have to do is see that the Xbox has sold more than the PS3 since it's launch and had almost 8 million by last november.

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And how about this?href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366">Read it hereskelebull3000
You're forgetting Sony broke both Microsoft and Nintendo sales in Europe? http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2006/12/fun-with-microsoft-press-releases-or.html lol
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#56 Pangster007
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I thought it was already obvious that MS forced the 10m shipment mark for the years end. :|

As for 'as of today', guestimating the rate it's been going at, it is around the 10m mark now. 

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#57 Blinblingthing
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There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Truth_Hurts_U

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million     (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="gmastersexay"][QUOTE="Flame1"]

http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html

interesting info on the state of the 360 (sales-wise as opposed to games-wise)

says that as of the date the article was written (4/10/2007), the 360 has yet to have sold 10 million unit. the article says that MS employed "channel stuffing" to allow them to announce higher sales figures than were true. also explains why MS officially announced the elite at the end of the quarter in order to boost sales figures through booking reservatons for the new console version. MS is undoubtedly in the lead for this game gen currently, but tactics such as these have an air of desperation and you can only wonder how long will its lead last? the article also has a whole bunch of intersting info on the dealings between the manufacters and the retailers.

tango90101

Read this earlier. Interesting read though.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/microsoft/microsofts-channel-stuffing-comes-unstuck-251281.php

 

It seems MS is getting a little desperate.

What would make you say that?

And how about this? Read it here

hee, hee...

now THAT'S desperation....:lol:

 

No son, that's called easter. 

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please prove ms had lied... other than a blog... :roll:until you do, you're just looking foolish..ps.. you act like people have stopped buying the 360... you couldn't be more wrong...:lol:tango90101
Sony will no doubt be looking into this issue,until then,the InformationArbitrage article is solid. The 360 is selling,but not as much as MS are claiming it is.I'm surprised GameSpot hasnt done an article on this yet.
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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]And how about this?href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366" mce_href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366">Read it hereDualshockin
You're forgetting Sony broke both Microsoft and Nintendo sales in Europe? http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2006/12/fun-with-microsoft-press-releases-or.html lol

However, sales dropped very rapidly after that.

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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]And how about this?href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366">Read it hereDualshockin
You're forgetting Sony broke both Microsoft and Nintendo sales in Europe? http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2006/12/fun-with-microsoft-press-releases-or.html lol

At which it fell by 82%?

And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.

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#62 tango90101
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Blinblingthing

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million     (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

that's where you started guessing....

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#63 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Blinblingthing

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your ownage is spectacular.
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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]And how about this?href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366" mce_href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366">Read it hereDualshockin
You're forgetting Sony broke both Microsoft and Nintendo sales in Europe? http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2006/12/fun-with-microsoft-press-releases-or.html lol

Date of your article (the one you just posted) is 11th december 2006. And it's a blog. Again. Date of my article 10th of April 2007. Mine's more recent and shows the current state of the PS3 in Europe.

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#65 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Dualshockin

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your  self ownage is spectacular.

Fixed it for you....

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At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Pangster007
The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.
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#67 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

DXGreat1_HGL

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your ownage is spectacular.

Fixed it for you....

It seems you're trying to create tension?This isnt allowed.
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#68 tango90101
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

DXGreat1_HGL

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your  self ownage is spectacular.

Fixed it for you....

it's funny how cows use "guesses" and "opinions" over reality...

very entertaining....:lol:

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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Dualshockin
The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

it's ALREADY worldwide..

but not a phenomenon by ANY measure.... :(

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Flame1"]

http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html

interesting info on the state of the 360 (sales-wise as opposed to games-wise)

says that as of the date the article was written (4/10/2007), the 360 has yet to have sold 10 million unit. the article says that MS employed "channel stuffing" to allow them to announce higher sales figures than were true. also explains why MS officially announced the elite at the end of the quarter in order to boost sales figures through booking reservatons for the new console version. MS is undoubtedly in the lead for this game gen currently, but tactics such as these have an air of desperation and you can only wonder how long will its lead last? the article also has a whole bunch of intersting info on the dealings between the manufacters and the retailers.

tango90101

We all know MS are lying about their sales figures,why would they have to release another console to compete with the Ps3 if they're indeed selling so well? I'm guessing MS has only sold 7 million units,meaning the Wii will pass it next month,and Ps3 will pass it by Halloween.

please link MS' officially released sales figures..

all you EVER do is "guess"...:roll:

Those "Officially" released sales figures are false,as pointed out by that article. Ms have only sold 7 million units,and have 5 million Live users.

post them...

face it; you have NO "official sales" numbers from MS...

just third party conjecture...

spin it anyway you want, but the 360 is teh #1 console this gen...;)

LINK

Microsoft News Tracker articles in the Peter Moore category. ... That "sold" number refers to units "sold into retail" and refers to units in transit, ...

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I think some of what the dude wrote could be somewhat accurate, and think that the 360 is around 10 million sold.

But I lost all credibility for the article when he stated that the PS3 is on track to out sell the 360 by the end of the year.  This dude obviously has a hate on for MS, and the article obviously show this.  He lost crediability with that hilarious and obvious outright lie.

Besides that, the harsh reality is the the inferior hardware Wii is outselling both the 360 and PS3.  And the 360 is outselling the PS3.  Wii will do really good for the next 2 years, but drop off after that.  It's graphics are really dated, but the control scheme will keep it in the game for a little while along with it "Mario" games.

 

AgentVX
why is it impossible? the ps3 is selling better than the 360 was in its 1st year :? and i guess they took into account wii will stop selling due to its crappy games.
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Date of your article (the one you just posted) is 11th december 2006. And it's a blog. Again. Date of my article 10th of April 2007. Mine's more recent and shows the current state of the PS3 in Europe.skelebull3000
http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html April 10,2007 :)
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Dualshockin
The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

 Yes, we know the PS3 has delivered all of those pics of unsold PS3's prove it....

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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Dualshockin
The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Everyone expects a drop in sales after launch, but as high as 82%? i don't think so.

As for your second sentence... wth? Are you a Sony PR? 

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="skelebull3000"]And how about this?href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366" mce_href="http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/news/poor-ps3-sales-reduce-retailers-to-discounts?articleid=153957366">Read it herePangster007

You're forgetting Sony broke both Microsoft and Nintendo sales in Europe? http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2006/12/fun-with-microsoft-press-releases-or.html lol

At which it fell by 82%?

And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.

Are there only two electronic gaming console retailers in the UK???

And wasn't that a Easter Weekend Promo???

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#76 MrKittle
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What is up with these threads lately. Microsoft already announced in January that they have sold over 10 million units...people
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lol that article talking a load of biased bs
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.tango90101

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

it's ALREADY worldwide..

but not a phenomenon by ANY measure.... :(

You do know it's selling more than the 360 was at this point?LOL,the Xbox isnt doing well in the war.
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#79 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

tango90101

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million     (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

that's where you started guessing....

So I used NPD, mediaCreate and M$'s histotrical sales data to come up with a number

What did you use again???

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#80 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]Date of your article (the one you just posted) is 11th december 2006. And it's a blog. Again. Date of my article 10th of April 2007. Mine's more recent and shows the current state of the PS3 in Europe.Dualshockin
http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html April 10,2007 :)

 So do you have anything that isn't someones random rants in a blog?

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#81 supermechakirby
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wowOMG

informationarbitrage is such a great website that everyone knows

 

I MEAN IT HAS TO BE TRUE

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#82 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Pangster007

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Everyone expects a drop in sales after launch, but as high as 82%? i don't think so.

As for your second sentence... wth? Are you a Sony PR?

Show me an article from the UK where it states the 360 sold more than the Ps3 in 1 month. I'll wait lol
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#83 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Blinblingthing

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million     (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Ok are you ready to sit down? Brace yourself ok? So you admit the 360, counting with NPD numbers, add up to almost 9 million right?

ok.....here we go!

NPD DOES NOT COUNT WALMART.

OK. Now go back and do the math again.... since you like to guess, I would assume that WALMART has sold well over a million 360's since 11/22/05.

That would pretty much make their numbers accurate. 

Thank you.

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#84 mighty_shark
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Flame1"]

http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/04/microsoft_phili.html

interesting info on the state of the 360 (sales-wise as opposed to games-wise)

says that as of the date the article was written (4/10/2007), the 360 has yet to have sold 10 million unit. the article says that MS employed "channel stuffing" to allow them to announce higher sales figures than were true. also explains why MS officially announced the elite at the end of the quarter in order to boost sales figures through booking reservatons for the new console version. MS is undoubtedly in the lead for this game gen currently, but tactics such as these have an air of desperation and you can only wonder how long will its lead last? the article also has a whole bunch of intersting info on the dealings between the manufacters and the retailers.

tango90101

We all know MS are lying about their sales figures,why would they have to release another console to compete with the Ps3 if they're indeed selling so well? I'm guessing MS has only sold 7 million units,meaning the Wii will pass it next month,and Ps3 will pass it by Halloween.

please link MS' officially released sales figures..

all you EVER do is "guess"...:roll:

Those "Officially" released sales figures are false,as pointed out by that article. Ms have only sold 7 million units,and have 5 million Live users.

post them...

face it; you have NO "official sales" numbers from MS...

just third party conjecture...

spin it anyway you want, but the 360 is teh #1 console this gen...;)

As of now: It has sold the most This gen?: Maybe not
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#85 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

tango90101

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your  self ownage is spectacular.

Fixed it for you....

it's funny how cows use "guesses" and "opinions" over reality...

very entertaining....:lol:

WHy don't you use some hard EU figures then?

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#86 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Pangster007

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Everyone expects a drop in sales after launch, but as high as 82%? i don't think so.

As for your second sentence... wth? Are you a Sony PR? 

I've often wondered :lol:

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#87 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Blinblingthing

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Your  self ownage is spectacular.

Fixed it for you....

it's funny how cows use "guesses" and "opinions" over reality...

very entertaining....:lol:

WHy don't you use some hard EU figures then?

post them.. it was YOUR "formula"...

oh that's right.. you don't need them.. you've estimated... :roll:

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#88 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

heretrix

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million     (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

Ok are you ready to sit down? Brace yourself ok? So you admit the 360, counting with NPD numbers, add up to almost 9 million right?

ok.....here we go!

NPD DOES NOT COUNT WALMART.

OK. Now go back and do the math again.... since you like to guess, I would assume that WALMART has sold well over a million 360's since 11/22/05.

That would pretty much make their numbers accurate. 

Thank you.

Ok are you ready to sit down? Brace yourself ok?

Walmart sales Are aggregated/Estimated in their Monthly reports :D

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#89 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.DXGreat1_HGL

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Yes, we know the PS3 has delivered all of those pics of unsold PS3's prove it....

Since we all know boxes are an indication of whether or not a system is selling,correct?
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#90 DXGreat1_HGL
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So to sum up this thread from a cows perspective, Blogs are reliable sources of information and to avoid ownage, just speculate....
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#91 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.Dualshockin

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Yes, we know the PS3 has delivered all of those pics of unsold PS3's prove it....

Since we all know boxes are an indication of whether or not a system is selling,correct?

 Wow, and the 360 has been out for 1 and 1/2 years and now the 'global phenomenon' has just as many unsold boxes out after 4 months...

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#92 Dualshockin
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post them.. it was YOUR "formula"...oh that's right.. you don't need them.. you've estimated... :roll:tango90101
His NPD numbers arent estimates are they?The 360 has sold nowhere near 5 million units in Europe,thus,even when added with Japan sales,it still hasnt sold 10 million units.
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#93 Dualshockin
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Wow, and the 360 has been out for 1 and 1/2 years and now the 'global phenomenon' has just as many unsold boxes out after 4 months...DXGreat1_HGL
Lol so your logic now changes? Okay.
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#94 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]At which it fell by 82%?And the temporary price cuts by certain retailers (£425 down to £400)? I don't think the retailers anticipated such a sharp drop in sales.DXGreat1_HGL

The 82% is compared to the launch sales,and this is why one may believe the sales have fallen off dramatically. The Playstation 3 home entertainment console has delivered in Europe,with amazing titles coming soon,expect the console to be a worldwide phenomenon.

Yes, we know the PS3 has delivered all of those pics of unsold PS3's prove it....

Since we all know boxes are an indication of whether or not a system is selling,correct?

 Wow, and the 360 has been out for 1 and 1/2 years and now the 'global phenomenon' has just as many unsold boxes out after 4 months...

:lol: Dualshockin just got self-owned.  Of course a system that's been out for a year and a half isn't going to have much demand :roll:

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#95 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

WHy don't you use some hard EU figures then?

tango90101

post them.. it was YOUR "formula"...

oh that's right.. you don't need them.. you've estimated... :roll:

you can pretend all you want. but that doesn't change a thing.

Historical M$ sells 60% of there US numbers in EU. I don't  think things changed as 360 hasn't broken any EU records

 

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#96 Krigon
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There already over 10 million.

Here is 2 sites.

http://www.vgcharts.com/

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

Out of the hundreds of guessing sites out there.

Blinblingthing

Lets do the Math :D

NPD 360 Figures As follows

Nov/2005 330,000
Dec/2005 280,000
Jan/2006 250,000
Feb/2006 160,000
Mar/2006 190,000
Apr/2006 300,000
May/2006 220,000
Jun/2006 280,000
Jul/2006 210,000
Aug/2006 200,000
Sep/2006 260,000
Oct/2006 220,000
Nov/2006 510,000
Dec/2006 1,130,000
Jan/2007 294,000
Feb/2007 228,000

I Got 5.05 Million (As of Up to February)

JPN 360 are for a Fact Under 450K. (I can post weeks upon week of sales, so I'll be generous and over estimate)

EU has historical been 60% of US numbers so thats about 3.03 Million

thats around 8.53 Million million up to Feb 07

unless you can so me some hard EU numbers or some historical data showing EU percentages Vs US numbers its fact 360 hasn't sold 10 as of Feb 07

 

You haven't added the sells in Australasia or Southamerica or Africa. Unless you are counting them all in your estimations for Europe ("Others" in vgchart).

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#97 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]post them.. it was YOUR "formula"...oh that's right.. you don't need them.. you've estimated... :roll:Dualshockin
His NPD numbers arent estimates are they?The 360 has sold nowhere near 5 million units in Europe,thus,even when added with Japan sales,it still hasnt sold 10 million units.

They know for a Fact NA is 360's Storgest MArket. But for some reason they want to act as If 360 sells as much in EU as in NA

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#98 Dualshockin
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:lol: Dualshockin just got self-owned. Of course a system that's been out for a year and a half isn't going to have much demand :roll:Tylendal
Actually,denial can be considered self-ownage :lol:
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#99 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]post them.. it was YOUR "formula"...oh that's right.. you don't need them.. you've estimated... :roll:Blinblingthing

His NPD numbers arent estimates are they?The 360 has sold nowhere near 5 million units in Europe,thus,even when added with Japan sales,it still hasnt sold 10 million units.

They know for a Fact NA is 360's Storgest MArket. But for some reason they want to act as If 360 sells as much in EU as in NA

I remember a few days ago a Lemming was trying to defend 360 sales figures....In Japan LOL NA is Microsofts right now,in Europe,they dont have a strong following.
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#100 Tylendal
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100th post :D:D:D