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#51 Lionheart08
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So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

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#52 ActicEdge
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So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

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#53 ArchaoN
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First of all, I know what the Japanese did and I know how horrible it was... Secondly, no, nukes were no NECESSARY. We could have just as easily used regular bombs for an extended period of time and cut off their resources, which we were doing, until they gave up. This isn't about a history lesson anyway. The point is, there is no way the Japanese will ever accept the Xbox brand as superior to Nintendo or Sony's products, and the nukes have a lot to do with it and I don't blame them.
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#54 akbar13
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So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08
Microsoft owns Japan so it doesn't even matter.
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#55 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

ActicEdge

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

The fail is strong in this one....

DarkGamer007

how so the US practically pummeled the Japanese Navy and Airforce then they NUKED them why not the germans is it because they were friends with hitler before the war I wonder why.

I do not support the bombings of Japan at all, I think it was one of the worst and most sick decisions the United States possibly ever made. Your post failed because I doubt the Japanese wouldn't purchase an Xbox 360 because a company that happend to be found in the same country that bombed Japan despite the company had nothing to do with the bombings. The droping of the atomic bombs has nothing to do with why the Japanese don't support the Xbox 360.

I just realised Rza's comments. The first one could have been a distasteful joke comment, but the fact that he tried to argue it true makes me giggle.
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#57 BlackTragedy
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So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

NO. here in the west nobody cares about about a piece of tecs country of origin or nes, n64, ps1, ps2 ect would never have done so well.

plus the 360 has more jrpgs then the ps3. Japanese dont like western products

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#58 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

absolutely nothing. lol

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#59 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

One match can light an entire building on fire if used correctly. There just happens to be one post in this thread that sparked a little discussion -- no matter how ridiculous, misguided, and baseless it may have been. :P
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#60 duxter1
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"Hell the Japanese may have won!"

Thanks for agreeing with me but that would not have been possible. The Japanese had no navy or air power left by 1945 and they did not have the ability to build boats/planes. They could not have mass produced the weapons and supplies needed to win. Compared to the US who was mass producing everything and had plenty of veteran soldiers from Europe.

This post went completely OT!

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#61 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

Apparently people think the Japanese are still pissed off at the United States for dropping the atomic bombs so they won't by the Xbox 360 as retaliation....yeah cause that makes sense /sarcasm. I'm sure the Japanese person sitting in the store trying to decide between a Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 isn't going "I shouldn't get the Xbox 360, America bombed my grandparents back in World War II!:. :|

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[QUOTE="ArchaoN"]First of all, I know what the Japanese did and I know how horrible it was... Secondly, no, nukes were no NECESSARY. We could have just as easily used regular bombs for an extended period of time and cut off their resources, which we were doing, until they gave up. This isn't about a history lesson anyway. The point is, there is no way the Japanese will ever accept the Xbox brand as superior to Nintendo or Sony's products, and the nukes have a lot to do with it and I don't blame them.

I'm sorry, and I know I get this from British culture, and THIS is the reason why everyone thinks the US is full of idiots. Someone keeping a tally?
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#63 Silverbond
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I hate these threads because they always go completely off-topic.

"racist to da west"? Really? :|

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Japanese dont like western products

BlackTragedy

Yet the iPod was very popular in Japan.

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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

The fail is strong in this one....

how so the US practically pummeled the Japanese Navy and Airforce then they NUKED them why not the germans is it because they were friends with hitler before the war I wonder why.

I do not support the bombings of Japan at all, I think it was one of the worst and most sick decisions the United States possibly ever made. Your post failed because I doubt the Japanese wouldn't purchase an Xbox 360 because a company that happend to be found in the same country that bombed Japan despite the company had nothing to do with the bombings. The droping of the atomic bombs has nothing to do with why the Japanese don't support the Xbox 360.

It was a reply to the OP post this may or may not have a corrolation to the sales of american products in japan. I wouldn't have brought it up if the OP never mentioned it.
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Whoa, what the hell kind of thread did I walk into? History facts and discussing if nationalism is a factor in purchasing..............this is SW right?

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#67 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

BlackTragedy

NO. here in the west nobody cares about about a piece of tecs country of origin or nes, n64, ps1, ps2 ect would never have done so well.

plus the 360 has more jrpgs then the ps3. Japanese dont like western products

Believe it or not, jRPGS aren't the only games that sell in Japan. And even there, it's literally reached the point where the PS3 and 360 are just about even in terms of RPGS anyway.

And I have to ask you again, 360 not selling like hotcakes = racism how?

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#68 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

I suppose 360 technoligy existed back then and the Japanese came to the conclusion that it was bad and thus now they hate it??? I really don't know. Maybe the possibilty of 360's exploding in the slimer Japanese homes is a fire hazard.

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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]Japanese dont like western products

Stevo_the_gamer

Yet the iPod was very popular in Japan.

Everyone knows Apple are the Japanese in disguise.
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#70 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]Japanese dont like western products

Stevo_the_gamer

Yet the iPod was very popular in Japan.

the iphone certainly isnt

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#71 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No, just unintelligent :P But seriously, this topic is silly.

Stevo_the_gamer

Okay seriously, what the hell does WWII have to do with the 360 selling like crap?

One match can light an entire building on fire if used correctly. There just happens to be one post in this thread that sparked a little discussion -- no matter how ridiculous, misguided, and baseless it may have been. :P

So the solution is SW needs to be ban from playing with matches? That's no fun, I'd basically never post lol. I still will never get these hisroey ddiscussions though, all it ever leads to is moderation and misconception (I never participate though)

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#72 Blue-Sky
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I think Japanese people have many plausible reasons to not buy the Xbox 360 over the competition other than "racism" Have anyone ever looked at the 360 line-up?

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Whoa, what the hell kind of thread did I walk into? History facts and discussing if nationalism is a factor in purchasing..............this is SW right?

bez2083
Yep, don't be surprised, this really is the general IQ of SW. We could focus it down and work out whether it Sheep, Cows or Lemmings making these ridiculous claims. Maybe its the Hermits!
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#74 silentkill62696
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If there is anything more than half of Asia supports about America, it's their decision to drop those nukes on Japan. If America had not done something drastic, I believe that more ppl's lives would've been lost. Ppl who did not experience or hear stories from their families about the war in Asia do not really know how horrible the Japanese were in WWII. I'm sure that if those 2 A bombs were dropped in Germay instead, we would be seeing more agreement that they were necessary. Fact is, the 360 is probably selling poorly because they are afraid of competition just like we Americans are afraid of foreigners stealing our jobs.

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[QUOTE="ArchaoN"]First of all, I know what the Japanese did and I know how horrible it was... Secondly, no, nukes were no NECESSARY. We could have just as easily used regular bombs for an extended period of time and cut off their resources, which we were doing, until they gave up. This isn't about a history lesson anyway. The point is, there is no way the Japanese will ever accept the Xbox brand as superior to Nintendo or Sony's products, and the nukes have a lot to do with it and I don't blame them.tirralirra
I'm sorry, and I know I get this from British culture, and THIS is the reason why everyone thinks the US is full of idiots. Someone keeping a tally?

whoa! what? how do you know hes even from America? im not gonna go there. this thread is already completely off the rails.

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#76 oajlu
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RROD + FPS = no thank you in Japan.

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#77 Rza_rectah
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you guys made me look the devil in the post.:(

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I don't speak acronym but it's impossible to be racist against companies and products.
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So....the japanese are racist because they don't like the 360? Does that make Americans racist then since FPSs are more popular than jRPGS?

Lionheart08

NO. here in the west nobody cares about about a piece of tecs country of origin or nes, n64, ps1, ps2 ect would never have done so well.

plus the 360 has more jrpgs then the ps3. Japanese dont like western products

Believe it or not, jRPGS aren't the only games that sell in Japan. And even there, it's literally reached the point where the PS3 and 360 are just about even in terms of RPGS anyway.

And I have to ask you again, 360 not selling like hotcakes = racism how?

look at the 360s sales or sales beteen other electronics. For consoles that are so similar (ps3,360) everywhere else in the world one doesnt completely overshadow the other. Except in japan. WHY ?.

also theres no denying there the most popular. SE even knows that.

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#80 ActicEdge
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the 360 is probably selling poorly because they are afraid of competition just like we Americans are afraid of foreigners stealing our jobs.

silentkill62696

Not at all. The 360 is selling like crap in Japan because it has no brand power, its building off the horrid marketing job MS did of the original Xbox in Japan and as long as the box shares most of its library with the PS3, it will lose due to popularity of brand. Not to mention the actual release of games for the 360 in Japan is bare and sparse.

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#81 Silverbond
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also theres no denying there the most popular. SE even knows that.

BlackTragedy

There's no denying that FPS games are the most popular here. Is America racist? :o

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So the solution is SW needs to be ban from playing with matches? That's no fun, I'd basically never post lol. I still will never get these hisroey ddiscussions though, all it ever leads to is moderation and misconception (I never participate though)

ActicEdge

Indeed! Actually, just a ban on low level accounts posting here -- thats a much better option. It's entertaining to read, hell, I literally only yesterday finish a ten page research and argumentive essay regarding the use of the atomic bombs on Japan and their necessity. I could do some serious damage in debating that, if someone were to make a topic regarding it in OT -- I'd be there! :P

By the way, I do expect Microsoft to sell at least 75K in Japan this year. (had to add something that was on topic hehe)

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#83 BlackTragedy
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RROD + FPS = no thank you in Japan.

oajlu

360 has more rpgs then ps3

also ps3 may even have more fps then the 360

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if you want horror stories just read up on what japanese did at unit 731, even the worst horror movie couldn't touch what happened there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and thefetus removed

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines

Flame throwers were tested on humans

Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians

being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death

it's funny how it has largely been forgotten or ignored, nazi's were choirboys in comparison

I don't bear any resentment to japanese living now, was another time, but still. I can understand why older folk who went through the war might have ill feelings towards japanese

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#85 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

also theres no denying there the most popular. SE even knows that.

Silverbond

There's no denying that FPS games are the most popular here. Is America racist? :o

you just took my post out of context :roll:

I didnt say jrgs had anything to with racism.

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[QUOTE="Deano"]

if you want horror stories just read up on what japanese did at unit 731, even the worst horror movie couldn't touch what happened there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and thefetus removed

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines

Flame throwers were tested on humans

Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians

being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death

it's funny how it has largely been forgotten or ignored, nazi's were choirboys in comparison

I don't bear any resentment to japanese living now, was another time, but still. I can understand why older folk who went through the war might have ill feelings towards japanese

The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.
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#88 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

also theres no denying there the most popular. SE even knows that.

Silverbond

There's no denying that FPS games are the most popular here. Is America racist? :o

you just took my post out of context :roll:

I didnt say jrgs had anything to with racism.

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#89 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

also theres no denying there the most popular. SE even knows that.

BlackTragedy

There's no denying that FPS games are the most popular here. Is America racist? :o

you just took my post out of context :roll:

I didnt say jrgs had anything to with racism.

No I didn't. :|

According to you, if American products aren't selling like hotcakes, it's racism.

So, if Japanese RPGs don't sell as well as the western FPS over here then it must be racism.

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Man did this thread take a sharp left turn, I feel like I'm in history class now.
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[QUOTE="Deano"]

if you want horror stories just read up on what japanese did at unit 731, even the worst horror movie couldn't touch what happened there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and thefetus removed

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines

Flame throwers were tested on humans

Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians

being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death

it's funny how it has largely been forgotten or ignored, nazi's were choirboys in comparison

I don't bear any resentment to japanese living now, was another time, but still. I can understand why older folk who went through the war might have ill feelings towards japanese

Rza_rectah

The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.

a small group of ppl that go agaisnt the gov and america is not the same as a nations military

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The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.Rza_rectah

what the hell does that have to do with what japanese did?

anyway I'd like an actual source for that story, instead of just rumour.

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#93 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

There's no denying that FPS games are the most popular here. Is America racist? :o

Silverbond

you just took my post out of context :roll:

I didnt say jrgs had anything to with racism.

No I didn't. :|

According to you, if American products aren't selling like hotcakes, it's racism.

So, if Japanese RPGs don't sell as well as the western FPS over here then it must be racism.

yeah you did.

why dont you post all of what ive said

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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Deano"]

if you want horror stories just read up on what japanese did at unit 731, even the worst horror movie couldn't touch what happened there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and thefetus removed

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines

Flame throwers were tested on humans

Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians

being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death

it's funny how it has largely been forgotten or ignored, nazi's were choirboys in comparison

I don't bear any resentment to japanese living now, was another time, but still. I can understand why older folk who went through the war might have ill feelings towards japanese

The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.

a small group of ppl that go agaisnt the gov and america is not the same as a nations military

the KKK was actually part of the government and the movie was premiered on the White house lawn.
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#95 tikki25x
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welcome to History Wars ladies and gentlemen. lol

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#96 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.Deano

what the hell does that have to do with what japanese did?

anyway I'd like an actual source for that story, instead of just rumour.

Not everything i read is from the internet find it yourself if your interested in it.
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Square-Enix CEO Yoichi Wada is frustrated with Japanese gamers' refusal to give Western-made games a chance, calling the Japanese term for the games "terribly discriminatory."

you gonna argue with this guy about his own ppl

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#98 bad_fur_day
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not surprised you wouldnt hate the country A bombed your country not once but twice just to demonstrate their power to the world after the war was practically won.

Rza_rectah

Erm, you call having to invade japan practically won, they could hardly get them off a meaningless rock.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]The KKK hung a pregnant woman slit her stomach open and stepped on the fetis. This thread is over with the WWII talks and world genocides.Deano

what the hell does that have to do with what japanese did?

anyway I'd like an actual source for that story, instead of just rumour.

He's proving a point. History always takes sides. Again I refer to Edward Said's Orientalism - another point he makes, your culture conditions you, why do you think you find it so hard to find Rza's comment true. not that I'm saying it is of course. It is typical of human civilisation to take what important people say but not your neighbour. Not that I'm saying all history is false either but that mcuh of it is skewed to one side. NB I am so sorry for my continuing contribution to this rather odd thread but i feel like some people here need to be better informed.
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Not everything i read is from the internet find it yourself if your interested in it.Rza_rectah

which means you have no proof.