360 is almost tied with PC for full AAA titles (11 vs 12)

360 is almost tied with PC for full AAA titles (10 vs 11). Hermits want to count expansion packs but expansion packs are not full games. Plus they require the original title to be able to be played. Some of which were before thecurrent gen even started. Expansions should be a second sub category... example 10 AAA games and 3 AAA expansions. Same goes with VC, LIVE arcade, or map packs.

Full Games PC
1.The Orange Box,
2.World in Conflict
3.The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
4.World Soccer Winning Eleven 9
5.Call of Duty 4
6.Gears of War 9
7.Command & Conquer 3
8.GTR 2 9
9.Company of Heroes
10.BioShock
11.Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords

New 12. Crysis

Expansions
1.World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
2.Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar

Full 360 Games
1.Gears of War
2.The Orange Box
3.Halo 3
4.Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
5.Forza Motorsport 2
6.Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
7.Call of Duty 4
8.Perfect Dark Zero
9.Bioshock
10.The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

New 11. Assasin's Creed

360 Arcade Game
1. Puzzle Quest

Games like Mass Effect could easily turn the tide. As could games like WIC coming to 360 also.

360 is almost tied with PC for full AAA titles (10 vs 11). Hermits want to count expansion packs but expansion packs are not full games. Plus they require the original title to be able to be played. Some of which were before thecurrent gen even started. Expansions should be a second sub category... example 10 AAA games and 3 AAA expansions. Same goes with VC, LIVE arcade, or map packs.

Full Games PC

8.GTR 2 9

11.Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords

Expansions
1.World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
2.Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar

Full 360 Games
1.
3.Halo 3

5.Forza Motorsport 2

8.Perfect Dark Zero

360 Arcade Game
1. Puzzle Quest

Games like Mass Effect could easily turn the tide. As could games like WIC coming to 360 also.

rexoverbey

fixed.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Sorry dude, expansions count.The_Ish

I wouldn't count it...they aren't full games and they are rated that way.

How many exclusives does the 360 have?

Also, I noticed that you excluded exclusive AA titles. I wonder why.;)

How many exclusives does the 360 have?

Also, I noticed that you excluded exclusive AA titles. I wonder why.;)

joeblak

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Sorry dude, expansions count.Vandalvideo

I wouldn't count it...they aren't full games and they are rated that way.

[QUOTE="joeblak"]

How many exclusives does the 360 have?

Also, I noticed that you excluded exclusive AA titles. I wonder why.;)

Vandalvideo

I know; that's why I had the wink icon at the end.

I disagree expansion reviews are based off what it adds to a game. Not how it would rate as a completely new game.rexoverbey

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Sorry dude, expansions count.Vandalvideo

I wouldn't count it...they aren't full games and they are rated that way.

I agree, but I realized that basing my argument on the fact that they usually require the original game isn't very viable...so I deleted my previous comment.

expansions count no matter how console fanboys want to spin it. for a expansion pack to get aaa is very difficult and any that gets should be counted

besides you missed 1 pc aaa game which came out last year : diner dash

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"] I disagree expansion reviews are based off what it adds to a game. Not how it would rate as a completely new game.Vandalvideo

Well herms keep up the damage control. Whatever you say, expansions or not, the 360 is damn close to being even with PC for AAA's. Uncle_Uzi

how is it damage control? :|

If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countrexoverbey

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"] If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countVandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"] If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countrexoverbey

even if they don't have more content than orignals almost all of them more content than quite a few console games

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"] If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countnaval

even if they don't have more content than orignals almost all of them more content than quite a few console games

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]Well herms keep up the damage control. Whatever you say, expansions or not, the 360 is damn close to being even with PC for AAA's. CaseyWegner

how is it damage control? :|

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question?

The added content is still being added to the original game or mostly based off the original game. rexoverbey

[QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"] If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countrexoverbey

even if they don't have more content than orignals almost all of them more content than quite a few console games

so are some sequels. :?

Lets look at something like Burning Crusade. 7 new zones, over a thousand new quests, 2 new races, 10 new levels, almost 100 hours of brand new content (NOT counting doing things more then once). How the hell can that not count but something like Gears of War, a 8 hour game (a fantastic 8 hour game mind you) does? OFCOURSE expansions count.Cali3350

Indeed, using Halo 3 as an example, a 6-8 hours game with updated graphics over Halo 2, some new weapons/balancing and some new features and story continutation

Sequals are pretty much the same as expansions, the onyl difference in most cases is the engine.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]Well herms keep up the damage control. Whatever you say, expansions or not, the 360 is damn close to being even with PC for AAA's. Uncle_Uzi

how is it damage control? :|

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question?

Numbers back you up? The 360 has fewer exlusives not even counting expansions, and nearly 5 times fewer AA titles.

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question? Uncle_Uzi

360 is almost tied with PC for full AAA titles (10 vs 11). Hermits want to count expansion packs but expansion packs are not full games. Plus they require the original title to be able to be played. Some of which were before thecurrent gen even started. Expansions should be a second sub category... example 10 AAA games and 3 AAA expansions. Same goes with VC, LIVE arcade, or map packs.

Full Games PC
1.The Orange Box,
2.World in Conflict
3.The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
4.World Soccer Winning Eleven 9
5.Call of Duty 4
6.Gears of War 9
7.Command & Conquer 3
8.GTR 2 9
9.Company of Heroes
10.BioShock
11.Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords

Expansions
1.World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
2.Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar

Full 360 Games
1.Gears of War
2.The Orange Box
3.Halo 3
4.Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
5.Forza Motorsport 2
6.Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
7.Call of Duty 4
8.Perfect Dark Zero
9.Bioshock
10.The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

360 Arcade Game
1. Puzzle Quest

Games like Mass Effect could easily turn the tide. As could games like WIC coming to 360 also.

rexoverbey

missed diner dash (full game) for pc

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question?

Uncle_Uzi

well, it's the truth. how do the numbers back you up?

[QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"] If they are full fledged games why aren't they marketed that way. Still reviewed as a expansion not a full game. Shouldn't countrexoverbey

even if they don't have more content than orignals almost all of them more content than quite a few console games

so if something is good, and you add an expansion pack to continue the story it should not be counted ? the why are halo 3 or kotor 2 counted ?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]Well herms keep up the damage control. Whatever you say, expansions or not, the 360 is damn close to being even with PC for AAA's. Uncle_Uzi

how is it damage control? :|

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question?

What promising titles? Mass Effect .... terrific ... what else?

Not to mention next year the 360 is creamed by the PC / PS3 and possible the Wii by then somehow :P

You can whine how the system is praised, lemmings do the same thing to the sheep/cows but oh ... when thye are losing "Im so sick of hermits blah blah blah" ...

QQ more honestly ...

so if something is good, and you add an expansion pack to continue the story it should not be counted ? the why are halo 3 or kotor 2 counted ?

naval

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]

Because Casey, Hermits always come stomping in on all the console's fun saying "teh PC haz teh most trippple A titels u console nUbs!!!1!!?!1!" Well who's laughing now? 360 has more promising titles for the rest of this year than PC does. And when a console gets AAA, hermits always downplay and say "lower standerds u dunt kno good fps fool." Well I'm sick of it. This thread nails the point home. PC isn't as impressive as hermits always praise it to be, and the numbers certainly back me up. Does that answer your question?

CaseyWegner

well, it's the truth. how do the numbers back you up?

In AAA's. The thread is about AAA's. Not AA's... AAA's. A 1 or 2 difference is not that great seeing how I can play a very large amount of the same games on a system that costs far less to own and operate. I'll keep my 360 and stick to Rome: TW thank you. PC is losing it's 'grip' in SW, and you know it.

P.S. Rome: Total War is the greatest RTS ever invented.... FACT!

In AAA's. The thread is about AAA's. Not AA's... AAA's. A 1 or 2 difference is not that great seeing how I can play a very large amount of the same games on a system that costs far less to own and operate. I'll keep my 360 and stick to Rome: TW thank you. PC is losing it's 'grip' in SW, and you know it.

P.S. Rome: Total War is the greatest RTS ever invented.... FACT!

Uncle_Uzi

sure...for AAAs. why not look at a bigger picture?

Let's stay on topic please here.

Weird... you're the mod and I'm telling YOU to stay on topic...

Let's stay on topic please here.

Weird... you're the mod and I'm telling YOU to stay on topic...

Uncle_Uzi

it's still ahead. winning is winning.

In AAA's. The thread is about AAA's. Not AA's... AAA's. A 1 or 2 difference is not that great seeing how I can play a very large amount of the same games on a system that costs far less to own and operate. I'll keep my 360 and stick to Rome: TW thank you. PC is losing it's 'grip' in SW, and you know it. Uncle_Uzi

[QUOTE="naval"]

so if something is good, and you add an expansion pack to continue the story it should not be counted ? the why are halo 3 or kotor 2 counted ?

rexoverbey

lots of game use same engine, so ? many expansions have more features than you listed, so ? halo 3 is not reviewed as a complete new title otherwsie the story wouldn't make much sense would it now ? requiring the orignal game, how does it makes another game less of a game, and how about expansion packs that are standalone ?

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]In AAA's. The thread is about AAA's. Not AA's... AAA's. A 1 or 2 difference is not that great seeing how I can play a very large amount of the same games on a system that costs far less to own and operate. I'll keep my 360 and stick to Rome: TW thank you. PC is losing it's 'grip' in SW, and you know it. Vandalvideo

its 14 to 10 now and next year 360 is sure goingto be left behind by a large margin

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="naval"]

so if something is good, and you add an expansion pack to continue the story it should not be counted ? the why are halo 3 or kotor 2 counted ?

naval

lots of game use same engine, so ? many expansions have more features than you listed, so ? halo 3 is not reviewed as a complete new title otherwsie the story wouldn't make much sense would it now ? requiring the orignal game, how does it makes another game less of a game, and how about expansion packs that are standalone ?

Expansions don't count. You can't play an expansion unless you have main game. I don't care if they ship with more content.Pro_wrestler

ever heard of a STAND ALONE expansion? They don't require the main game. They still have just as much content as any full fledged game too..All the Galactic Civilization "expansions" are stand alone games. They count. Opposing Fronts and Forged alliance(both AA) also are stand-alone. Not counting Burning Crusade is perfectly proposterous because that has more content than all the games on the 360 COMBINED. Just wanted to point those things out.