360 is an affordable PC

If you're looking for great FPS, RTS, and RPG's you get them.

FPS - Halo 3, BioShock, F.E.A.R, Brothers in Arms Hell's Highway, Call of Duty 2 & 4(Treyarch makes crappy games), GRAW, GRAW 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Half-Life 2: Orange Box

RTS - EndWar, Halo Wars, LOTR BFME2

RPG's - Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fable 2, Mass Effect

Action/Adventure - Assassin's Creed, GTA IV, Splinter Cell 4 & 5, Hitman Blood Money, Condemned

So for anyone whos interested in PC games but can't afford a PC that can run all the games then get a 360.

Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.NobuoMusicMaker

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

I have a 360 and love the system, but for the TC to say it is an affordable PC... WHAT? 

Why did I click on this thread...

 -1 Intelligence.

the playstation can run windows xp and linux, and it does the same stuff as the 360 and then some, the PS3 is an affordable computer.

the playstation can run windows xp and linux, and it does the same stuff as the 360 and then some, the PS3 is an affordable computer.

Strongman98

Minus the games.

the playstation can run windows xp and linux, and it does the same stuff as the 360 and then some, the PS3 is an affordable computer.

Strongman98

Ps3 only runs Windows illegally and very poorly  

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.Deihmos

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

I'm sorry you don't know how to put together a PC or get deals on components. 

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.NobuoMusicMaker

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

I'm sorry you don't know how to put together a PC or get deals on components. 

Lmao. Show me the lowest price you can find the E6600 or the Q6600 if you want better performance? I got my E6600 from Newegg on January 29th and the price was $316 but now it's $223. You basically always get screwed with these price drops.

the playstation can run windows xp and linux, and it does the same stuff as the 360 and then some, the PS3 is an affordable computer.

Strongman98

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Leadtek PX8800 GTS TDH 320MB Extreme GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $259.99*
Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 1.8GHz 800MHz 2MB LGA775 CPU, OEM - $104.00 (ResellerRatings)
ASUS Silent Square 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - $13.99
PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $49.99*

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Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3320820AS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $69.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


Total Price: $732.02

• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
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• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.Deihmos

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

I'm sorry you don't know how to put together a PC or get deals on components.

Lmao. Show me the lowest price you can find the E6600 or the Q6600 if you want better performance? I got my E6600 from Newegg on January 29th and the price was $316 but now it's $223. You basically always get screwed with these price drops.

Umm the 360 isn't THAT powerful. An oced E6400 is good enough to outperform it.  I made my friend a PC with an E6400 ($190 CAD) + 8800GTS ($290 CAD) and then reusing some old parts like case, optical drive, kb+m.  Even got a cheap 2gb OCZ Platinum PC2-6400 for a mere 30 bucks.  So I pretty much made a PC that can outperform a 360 by a lot since 2gb RAM and 8800 GTS pretty much blows it out of specsland.

I can't really show you the deals because they are weekly sale items on NCIX, a local retail store.  I just jump on the gun when something is worth the money.  A bit of Ebay if there's something I can snipe.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.NobuoMusicMaker

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

I'm sorry you don't know how to put together a PC or get deals on components.

Lmao. Show me the lowest price you can find the E6600 or the Q6600 if you want better performance? I got my E6600 from Newegg on January 29th and the price was $316 but now it's $223. You basically always get screwed with these price drops.

Umm the 360 isn't THAT powerful. An oced E6400 is good enough to outperform it.  I made my friend a PC with an E6400 ($190 CAD) + 8800GTS ($290 CAD) and then reusing some old parts like case, optical drive, kb+m.  Even got a cheap 2gb OCZ Platinum PC2-6400 for a mere 30 bucks.  So I pretty much made a PC that can outperform a 360 by a lot since 2gb RAM and 8800 GTS pretty much blows it out of specsland.

I can't really show you the deals because they are weekly sale items on NCIX, a local retail store.  I just jump on the gun when something is worth the money.  A bit of Ebay if there's something I can snipe.

You cannot compare console processors to PC processors. They both work differently as one was designed specifically for gaming. Try the Dirt demo and you will see what I am talking about...You need an 8 series video card to get the game to play smoothly but it plays perfect on the 360 with only 512Mb of ram.

I have a 7950Gt which was over $200 when i got it in November. At that time there were only the 8800gtx and gts out for over $500.00

:lol: If it's an afforable PC, then why is it so poorly built? Any prebuilt gaming machine is of better quality then the 360.

And Halo Wars is going to suck, RTS's are crap on consoles, not to mention some of the games you mentioned are on the PC and were ported to the 360.

BTW, Battle for Middle Earth 2 sucked on PC, what makes you think its better on thet 360?

Half-Life 2: Orange Box

jimmygrace

That's where I stopped reading.

the playstation can run windows xp and linux, and it does the same stuff as the 360 and then some, the PS3 is an affordable computer.

Strongman98

ROFL, the ps3 does not have nearly the mutlimedia funtions/intergration with PC/PCHT/Media center as the 360 does....that is a known fact and I will whip that list out. 

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.Deihmos

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

Well that depends on where you look, the E6600 OEM is 299.99 CAD online right now from TigerDirect, thats the same price as the Core 360 in Canada. Either way though you can build a good gaming PC that is relatively powerful for 1200 bucks and you wouldnt have to pay for online gameplay or maps and mods as well. Plus you get limitless hard drive space and upgradeable components.

You cannot compare console processors to PC processors. They both work differently as one was designed specifically for gaming. Try the Dirt demo and you will see what I am talking about...You need an 8 series video card to get the game to play smoothly but it plays perfect on the 360 with only 512Mb of ram.

Deihmos

You can't compare PC hardware scaling to Console standard hardware is what you're actually saying.  But in terms of raw power, which is what the topic is all about, then PC can be cheaper and more powerful.  The fact that DirT doesn't run well on your computer doesn't mean Oblivion can't run better.  It probably does better than 360. 

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.DSgamer64

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

Well that depends on where you look, the E6600 OEM is 299.99 CAD online right now from TigerDirect, thats the same price as the Core 360 in Canada. Either way though you can build a good gaming PC that is relatively powerful for 1200 bucks and you wouldnt have to pay for online gameplay or maps and mods as well. Plus you get limitless hard drive space and upgradeable components.

a 1200 dollar PC will need to be upgraded in a year and I doubt it will play Crysis extremely well

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Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 1.8GHz 800MHz 2MB LGA775 CPU, OEM - $104.00 (ResellerRatings)
ASUS Silent Square 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - $13.99
PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $49.99*

SAMSUNG Black 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe Technology - $20.99
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Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


Total Price: $732.02

• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
  • ||More
• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

projectpat2007

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.Neal_Gore

Sure you can. My PC couldn't run Dirt properly and it cost a lot more than an Xbox. The E6600 processor is almost the price of the Xbox core.

Well that depends on where you look, the E6600 OEM is 299.99 CAD online right now from TigerDirect, thats the same price as the Core 360 in Canada. Either way though you can build a good gaming PC that is relatively powerful for 1200 bucks and you wouldnt have to pay for online gameplay or maps and mods as well. Plus you get limitless hard drive space and upgradeable components.

a 1200 dollar PC will need to be upgraded in a year and I doubt it will play Crysis extremely well

lol 

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

You cannot compare console processors to PC processors. They both work differently as one was designed specifically for gaming. Try the Dirt demo and you will see what I am talking about...You need an 8 series video card to get the game to play smoothly but it plays perfect on the 360 with only 512Mb of ram.

NobuoMusicMaker

You can't compare PC hardware scaling to Console standard hardware is what you're actually saying.  But in terms of raw power, which is what the topic is all about, then PC can be cheaper and more powerful.  The fact that DirT doesn't run well on your computer doesn't mean Oblivion can't run better.  It probably does better than 360. 

If Oblivion was built from the ground up for the 360 it would kick the PC's butt

You can't get a 400 dollar PC that would play Oblivion at all

And good luck playing Crysis on your current rig

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

You cannot compare console processors to PC processors. They both work differently as one was designed specifically for gaming. Try the Dirt demo and you will see what I am talking about...You need an 8 series video card to get the game to play smoothly but it plays perfect on the 360 with only 512Mb of ram.

NobuoMusicMaker

You can't compare PC hardware scaling to Console standard hardware is what you're actually saying.  But in terms of raw power, which is what the topic is all about, then PC can be cheaper and more powerful.  The fact that DirT doesn't run well on your computer doesn't mean Oblivion can't run better.  It probably does better than 360. 

Consoles also dont have an operating system that takes up about 5 GB's of HDD space, anti virus, firewall and all the background garbage that you find on Windows PC's. That is why consoles can run with less memory, because they dont have so many things to process unlike PC's.

I am basically done with upgrading my PC to play one or two games. I will continue playing Battlefield and the few PC games that I play  but upgrading has become rediculous. When I got my 7950Gt it was the 3rd fastest GPU with the 8800GTX and GTS in the top and that was in Novmember. But they were over $500 and there is no way i was going to pay that much top play 4 games.

Now it cannot run a game like Dirt properly since it recommends an 8 series card while the Xbox plays it perfect in 1080i.

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

gingerdivid

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

Neal_Gore

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol 

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

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Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
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Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


Total Price: $732.02

• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
  • ||More
• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

projectpat2007

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

A car 30,000 dollars then after you drive it off the lot and a year later it's only worth 15,000

A home in a nice neighborhood 250,000, a family moves in that makes the current residence move elsewhere, the house is then worth 200,000 or less

Doing over time price comparisons is stupid

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

Neal_Gore

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

Neal_Gore

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

But that doesn't change the fact that the PC still has more overall, meaning that the 360 is in no way, shape or form an alternative to the PC.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

projectpat2007

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol 

Which ones are those that are not multiplat?

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

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Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 1.8GHz 800MHz 2MB LGA775 CPU, OEM - $104.00 (ResellerRatings)
ASUS Silent Square 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - $13.99
PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $49.99*

SAMSUNG Black 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe Technology - $20.99
Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3320820AS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $69.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


Total Price: $732.02

• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
  • ||More
• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

Neal_Gore

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

A car 30,000 dollars then after you drive it off the lot and a year later it's only worth 15,000

A home in a nice neighborhood 250,000, a family moves in that makes the current residence move elsewhere, the house is then worth 200,000 or less

Doing over time price comparisons is stupid

Why? 

If you actually believe a comparison of initial price is a smarter idea...you need to check your head, really.

Your probably saying that because the 360, out of all the console, cost the most after the initial price...

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

Neal_Gore

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol

Which ones are those that are not multiplat?

Only one is multiplat, I believe...that would be C&C3...which ofcouse is many times better on PC. 

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

Neal_Gore

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol 

Which ones are those that are not multiplat?

Without multiplats, it comes down to two: Galactic Civiliazations II: Dark Avatar and World of WarCraft: The Burning Crusade.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

-The-G-Man-

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol

Which ones are those that are not multiplat?

Without multiplats, it comes down to two: Galactic Civiliazations II: Dark Avatar and World of WarCraft: The Burning Crusade.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

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Leadtek PX8800 GTS TDH 320MB Extreme GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $259.99*
Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 1.8GHz 800MHz 2MB LGA775 CPU, OEM - $104.00 (ResellerRatings)
ASUS Silent Square 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - $13.99
PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $49.99*

SAMSUNG Black 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe Technology - $20.99
Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3320820AS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $69.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


Total Price: $732.02

• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
  • ||More
• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

projectpat2007

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

A car 30,000 dollars then after you drive it off the lot and a year later it's only worth 15,000

A home in a nice neighborhood 250,000, a family moves in that makes the current residence move elsewhere, the house is then worth 200,000 or less

Doing over time price comparisons is stupid

Why?

If you actually believe a comparison of initial price is a smarter idea...you need to check your head, really.

Your probably saying that because the 360, out of all the console, cost the most after the initial price...

After you buy a console, you have to buy games for it right? And if your a Xbox owner, if you want to play with your console on the internet, you have to pay money.

I don't buy a system for paper-weight, I buy 1, to play games... 

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

gingerdivid

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

Your special

Uh I can make a PC that's more powerful than the Xbox with less cash involved.NobuoMusicMaker

The funny thing is, they are only expansions but yet they still have more replayablility than Gears of War. gingerdivid

Not to mention that the third AAA, Command and Conquer 3, is better on PC.  It doesn't count because it's multiplat.

And Gears is still a good game; I've played the single player many times and the multiplayer is very addictive.

I don't care what anyone says here you would be hard pressed to build a gaming rig (strictly gaming not talking web surfing or anyother pc functionality) for $400 or less that can out preform the 360Medjai

"(strictly gaming not talking web surfing or anyother pc functionality)  "

You just described a console.

If you are willing to pay more for the initial price and over time, pay less..and have the ability to web surf and do other PC functions, get a PC. 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You are obviously using the term "PC" loosely as PC's can almost do anything nowadays, if this was the case, every office block would be riddled with 360's.

In terms of games, the PC has more AAA, AA and A titles to an overwhelming degree, such a foolish title for a thread.

gingerdivid

Duh, the PC has been out for a long time. The 360 has been out over a year. This year you'll see more AAA titles on the 360 than on the PC.

The PC already has 3 this year...the 360 just got its first AAA of the year...lol

Which ones are those that are not multiplat?

Without multiplats, it comes down to two: Galactic Civiliazations II: Dark Avatar and World of WarCraft: The Burning Crusade.

The funny thing is the people that look exactly like their character in the WoW and I'm talking about the dwarf

When I'm a senior citezen I'll think about getting into silly games like WoW

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

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• DVD burner
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projectpat2007

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"][QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

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ABIT IB9 LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $69.99*
Leadtek PX8800 GTS TDH 320MB Extreme GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $259.99*
Antec NeoHE 500W Power Supply - $39.99*
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 1.8GHz 800MHz 2MB LGA775 CPU, OEM - $104.00 (ResellerRatings)
ASUS Silent Square 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - $13.99
PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $49.99*

SAMSUNG Black 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe Technology - $20.99
Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3320820AS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $69.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - $64.99
Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard - $17.90 (ResellerRatings)
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse PC Gaming w/ Adjustable Weights - $39.20*


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• Chenming AE-601 full tower case (Chenming AE-601 Review)
• 965P IB9 motherboard (abit IB9 Review)
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS (The GeForce 8800 GTS with 320 MB memory)
• 500W power supply with +12V rails combined @ 38A (eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5)
  • ||More
• OC friendly E4300 processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300: Affordable and Highly Overclockable)
• ASUS Silent Square CPU cooler (ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler: New Candidate for Super Cooler Title?)
• 2GB PC2 5300 memory (Intel Core 2: Is high speed memory worth its price?)
• DVD burner
• 320GB SATA II hard drive (Benchmark Results of 17 Hard Drives)
• Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Vista Upgrade Limitations Workaround)
• Ideazon MERC keyboard (ZBoard MERC Gaming Keyboard Review)
• Logitech G5 mouse (Logitech G5 Laser Mouse Review)

projectpat2007

PC ($732.02) + 25 games ($50 each)= $1982.02

Xbox 360 ($400) + 25 games ($60 each) + Xbox Live for 4 years ($50 each year) =2100

A car 30,000 dollars then after you drive it off the lot and a year later it's only worth 15,000

A home in a nice neighborhood 250,000, a family moves in that makes the current residence move elsewhere, the house is then worth 200,000 or less

Doing over time price comparisons is stupid

Why?

If you actually believe a comparison of initial price is a smarter idea...you need to check your head, really.

Your probably saying that because the 360, out of all the console, cost the most after the initial price...

If noticed thoug, half those components are deals...that is $1000 PC without the deals. A person could go find a used 360 if looked carefully enogh for $200-250. And what if they don't play a lot of online, just the games? That also knocks out money...

I build computers, I grew up with them all my life. The fact is...not every single computer user looks for deals, or builds computers...infact 80% or more don't. While the 360 will also have a static price.

Face it, it's a known fact that consoles are a much better value. You spend money, and they last for 5-10 years...PC's your upgrading every year if you wanna keep up. In the long run, you spend way more on computers, you should know better then that.

Yes, PC's are technologically better, but at the same time because of consoles optimization's they keep up better. Nobody here can argue that vs past generations...they consoles are keeping up better with PC's. They won't out do em no...but they are bluring the lines.

PC's just have to many varibles, but they have to. Just enjoy the ****ing games, that goes for everyone. I can't believe how whiney everyone can be. The fact is they all have good graphics. It's like comparing Lamborgini or Ferrari, or Porsche...pick your poison.