360 not true HD movies?

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

UandalUideo

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

UandalUideo

i would put plasmas at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hd tvs

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

UandalUideo

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

Spindoc_SEI

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

DLPs are the way to go, unless youre looking for cute, then go for a plasma or an lcd, the only beef i have with DLPs is that the bulbs dont last very long

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

Spindoc_SEI

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

And the LCD will look like crap compared to it. I'm sure some don't mind, but LCD just doesn't cut it for me. Most have ghost trails and if you ever get a pixel stuck on you're screwed. DLP has issues too but not nearly as bad as LCD.

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

UandalUideo

wrong. most lcd sets below 32" are 720p. why? because 1080p on these sets are moot unless you sit 1' away from the set. 37" and higher are a mix bag of 720p and 1080p, the latter of which you most definitely pay more. most tv's now a days are 1080p because manufacturers may more money off of these tv's than 720p sets. hence the marketing ploy of "true HD": a term invented by electronics makers to get people to pay twice as much money for a slight increase pixels over 720p (most of the time, the average person can't tell the difference unless you have a 52" or higher set.)

btw, lcd tv's dont' suck. they are f---ing awesome. i know, i own one.

[QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

You know, it's amazing how every single cow now owns a huge 1080p HDTV and 7.1 surround sound system (to go along with their high-end gaming PCs) this gen. Funny how that works out, huh?

I'd be willing to bet that 99% of these people claiming "TEH TRUE HD" wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p vs 1080p.

ParadiddleFill

That is because they do what Sony tells them too and Sony tells them that 1080p is "true HD" so they can sell a few more HDTV's.

funny part is cows actually did research they would realize how the whole 1080p vs 720p is pretty much a marketing tool used to make people spend more money

yeah, because a 1280x800 monitor is clearly just as good as a 1900x1200 one. ha

[QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

ParadiddleFill

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

DLPs are the way to go, unless youre looking for cute, then go for a plasma or an lcd, the only beef i have with DLPs is that the bulbs dont last very long

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead of bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and there is not need for a color wheel.

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

latinrage69

wrong. most lcd sets below 32" are 720p. why? because 1080p on these sets are moot unless you sit 1' away from the set. 37" and higher are a mix bag of 720p and 1080p, the latter of which you most definitely pay more. most tv's now a days are 1080p because manufacturers may more money off of these tv's than 720p sets. hence the marketing ploy of "true HD": a term invented by electronics makers to get people to pay twice as much money for a slight increase pixels over 720p (most of the time, the average person can't tell the difference unless you have a 52" or higher set.)

btw, lcd tv's dont' suck. they are f---ing awesome. i know, i own one.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking of small TVs. I have a 57" TVand 110" (projector setup)...so the small ones don't cross my radar screen.

DLPs are the way to go, unless youre looking for cute, then go for a plasma or an lcd, the only beef i have with DLPs is that the bulbs dont last very longParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

Spindoc_SEI

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

I would like a link with proof of this. I was under the impression that 1080p is really only used in 56"-60"+, since otherwise the difference is so minimal it hardly matters.

I just bought a Samsung 50" (720p) for $1100.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

You know, it's amazing how every single cow now owns a huge 1080p HDTV and 7.1 surround sound system (to go along with their high-end gaming PCs) this gen. Funny how that works out, huh?

I'd be willing to bet that 99% of these people claiming "TEH TRUE HD" wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p vs 1080p.

killzowned24

That is because they do what Sony tells them too and Sony tells them that 1080p is "true HD" so they can sell a few more HDTV's.

funny part is cows actually did research they would realize how the whole 1080p vs 720p is pretty much a marketing tool used to make people spend more money

yeah, because a 1280x800 monitor is clearly just as good as a 1900x1200 one. ha

sitting in front of a monitor and sitting infront of a television set is completely diffrent. When you are sitting 8 or 9 feet away from a 1080p tv thats 40 or even 50inch chances are you wont know the diffrence between 720 and 1080

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

latinrage69

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

DLPs are the way to go, unless youre looking for cute, then go for a plasma or an lcd, the only beef i have with DLPs is that the bulbs dont last very long

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead od bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and their is not need for a color wheel.

I guess the biggestbad thing about DLPs are they aren't flat panels. But *most* people that get a flat panel don't spend the money (or know how to do it themselves) to run the wires properly so that they are hidden...defeating the point of the flat panel.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]It most certainly does - through DL though not disk format.Jandurin

The download movies are only 720 movies, True HD is 1080p and those movies are too large for DL. So is lossless audio.

sum1 just swallowed a Sony marketing pamflet

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

You know, it's amazing how every single cow now owns a huge 1080p HDTV and 7.1 surround sound system (to go along with their high-end gaming PCs) this gen. Funny how that works out, huh?

I'd be willing to bet that 99% of these people claiming "TEH TRUE HD" wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p vs 1080p.

ParadiddleFill

That is because they do what Sony tells them too and Sony tells them that 1080p is "true HD" so they can sell a few more HDTV's.

funny part is cows actually did research they would realize how the whole 1080p vs 720p is pretty much a marketing tool used to make people spend more money

yeah, because a 1280x800 monitor is clearly just as good as a 1900x1200 one. ha

sitting in front of a monitor and sitting infront of a television set is completely diffrent. When you are sitting 8 or 9 feet away from a 1080p tv thats 40 or even 50inch chances are you wont know the diffrence between 720 and 1080

Funny thing is I've seen DVDs on a Great DVD player and TV look better than HD content on a mediocre TV. And most people won't be able to tell the big difference. They are told it's better so they think it is. I have a neighbor that is clueless on this, but thinks since it says it's better it must be, but I could clearly see issue (I didn't say anything because sometimes it's better not to know).

[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead of bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and there is not need for a color wheel.

UandalUideo

I guess the biggestbad thing about DLPs are they aren't flat panels. But *most* people that get a flat panel don't spend the money (or know how to do it themselves) to run the wires properly so that they are hidden...defeating the point of the flat panel.

ok. now explain to me where in this sentence you see that i stated anything about running wires. btw, i noticed that you made your account today and have run up almost 100 posts. sounds you're a fakeboy and hence you're statements will be regarded as BS. my guess is you made this account a few minuted ago just to post in this thread, thus the name Vandal Video, because your primary account probably got suspended.

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead of bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and there is not need for a color wheel.

latinrage69

I guess the biggestbad thing about DLPs are they aren't flat panels. But *most* people that get a flat panel don't spend the money (or know how to do it themselves) to run the wires properly so that they are hidden...defeating the point of the flat panel.

ok. now explain to me where in this sentence you see that i stated anything about running wires. btw, i noticed that you made your account today and have run up almost 100 posts. sounds you're a fakeboy and hence you're statements will be regarded as BS. my guess is you made this account a few minuted ago just to post in this thread, thus the name Vandal Video, because your primary account probably got suspended.

well he is right about running wires, chances are if you wanna hook up a flat pannel tv to the wall, youre going to need to hire a electrician so he could install the wires to be hooked up where the tv is going to be placed, other wise you are going to see the wires hanging out everywhere

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

You know, it's amazing how every single cow now owns a huge 1080p HDTV and 7.1 surround sound system (to go along with their high-end gaming PCs) this gen. Funny how that works out, huh?

I'd be willing to bet that 99% of these people claiming "TEH TRUE HD" wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p vs 1080p.

ParadiddleFill

That is because they do what Sony tells them too and Sony tells them that 1080p is "true HD" so they can sell a few more HDTV's.

funny part is cows actually did research they would realize how the whole 1080p vs 720p is pretty much a marketing tool used to make people spend more money

yeah, because a 1280x800 monitor is clearly just as good as a 1900x1200 one. ha

sitting in front of a monitor and sitting infront of a television set is completely diffrent. When you are sitting 8 or 9 feet away from a 1080p tv thats 40 or even 50inch chances are you wont know the diffrence between 720 and 1080

the difference is still worth it and earns a higher name.

I can clearly tell 1080 from 720, its crisper and overall better. I really dont see how you cant tell double the resolution?

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="jbeen"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

killzowned24

the difference is still worth it and earns a higher name.

I can clearly tell 1080 from 720, its crisper and overall better. I really dont see how you cant tell double the resolution?

the only way you can tell 1080p from 720p is if youre standing an inches away from the tv, however in actual movie settings your eye is not going to be able to pick up the extra pixels from a distance of more then a few feet. Like i said again if you wanna be hyped into buying a 1080p set go right ahead, but you are going to be spending the extra hundreds of dollars on a number

[QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

Apathetic-Irony

I can purchase a 52" DLP television from Samsung for around $1,500 that does 1080p. That is a great price for anyone looking for a large TV and an HD experience. A LCD of the same size and capability would cost more than twice that amount. A plasma like this would cost $5,000-$7,000. DLP televisions are affordable and have a great picture quality.

I would like a link with proof of this. I was under the impression that 1080p is really only used in 56"-60"+, since otherwise the difference is so minimal it hardly matters.

I just bought a Samsung 50" (720p) for $1100.

This is a newer model 50" one for $1699.99, but before they ran out of stock a couple of months ago you could pickup the older model for a couple hundred dollars cheaper. I don't remember what the model number is, but I have one at home. It uses a bulb instead of the LED engine and isn't slim-depth. It cost $2,100 brand new a year ago. I remember seeing Best Buy and Circuit City having these models on sale to clear out their stock of these to make way for the new ones.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead of bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and there is not need for a color wheel.

UandalUideo

I guess the biggestbad thing about DLPs are they aren't flat panels. But *most* people that get a flat panel don't spend the money (or know how to do it themselves) to run the wires properly so that they are hidden...defeating the point of the flat panel.

ok. now explain to me where in this sentence you see that i stated anything about running wires. btw, i noticed that you made your account today and have run up almost 100 posts. sounds you're a fakeboy and hence you're statements will be regarded as BS. my guess is you made this account a few minuted ago just to post in this thread, thus the name Vandal Video, because your primary account probably got suspended.

Huh? Put down teh crack pipe. I was giving another reason why LCD aren't that good and the only real drawback to DLPs right now. Got it...it's called having a conversation. If you don't like people adding to your comments...don't post on an internet forum.

wow. so much anger, so little brain activity. not everyone hangs their tv's on the wall. rptv's suffer from more than being massive in size. for instance, bulbs. the bulbs die in 2 years, 3 if your lucky. this requires a new bulb that can only be bought from the tv's maker for hundreds. btw, more people buy flat panels (lcd tv's predominantly) than rptv's which is why rptv sales a re stagnant and failing. another problem with rptv's is size availablility. not everyone has room for a 70" 400lb tv.

on a personal note, ease up on the drug references and flaming. they are cause for suspension and banning.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

the difference is still worth it and earns a higher name.

I can clearly tell 1080 from 720, its crisper and overall better. I really dont see how you cant tell double the resolution?

ParadiddleFill

the only way you can tell 1080p from 720p is if youre standing an inches away from the tv, however in actual movie settings your eye is not going to be able to pick up the extra pixels from a distance of more then a few feet. Like i said again if you wanna be hyped into buying a 1080p set go right ahead, but you are going to be spending the extra hundreds of dollars on a number

QFT!!

I went froma 36" 1080i CRT to a 1080p HDTV and couldn't tell a difference sitting (about) 8' away.

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

that's why manufacturers like samsung are using LED's instead of bulbs. LED's never have to be replaced and there is not need for a color wheel.

latinrage69

I guess the biggestbad thing about DLPs are they aren't flat panels. But *most* people that get a flat panel don't spend the money (or know how to do it themselves) to run the wires properly so that they are hidden...defeating the point of the flat panel.

ok. now explain to me where in this sentence you see that i stated anything about running wires. btw, i noticed that you made your account today and have run up almost 100 posts. sounds you're a fakeboy and hence you're statements will be regarded as BS. my guess is you made this account a few minuted ago just to post in this thread, thus the name Vandal Video, because your primary account probably got suspended.

Huh? Put down teh crack pipe. I was giving another reason why LCD aren't that good and the only real drawback to DLPs right now. Got it...it's called having a conversation. If you don't like people adding to your comments...don't post on an internet forum.

wow. so much anger, so little brain activity. not everyone hangs their tv's on the wall. rptv's suffer from more than being massive in size. for instance, bulbs. the bulbs die in 2 years, 3 if your lucky. this requires a new bulb that can only be bought from the tv's maker for hundreds. btw, more people buy flat panels (lcd tv's predominantly) than rptv's which is why rptv sales a re stagnant and failing. another problem with rptv's is size availablility. not everyone has room for a 70" 400lb tv.

on a personal note, ease up on the drug references and flaming. they are cause for suspension and banning.

OK. now explain to me where I spoke about bulbs.

See how silly you sounded in your first post! My point is LCDs are a horrible medium for watching movies/TV. They cost more (especially considering installation). The PQ isn't as good as plasma or DLP and you always run the risk of losing a few pixels or worse having them stuck on a color like red.

Even if you don't hang the TV on the wall...many still expose the cables running to it (just likea PC monitor does). It looks like garbage in most homes. My point is if you're going to put the money in doing it right with a flat panel a plasma is better for PQ.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

the difference is still worth it and earns a higher name.

I can clearly tell 1080 from 720, its crisper and overall better. I really dont see how you cant tell double the resolution?

LosDaddie

the only way you can tell 1080p from 720p is if youre standing an inches away from the tv, however in actual movie settings your eye is not going to be able to pick up the extra pixels from a distance of more then a few feet. Like i said again if you wanna be hyped into buying a 1080p set go right ahead, but you are going to be spending the extra hundreds of dollars on a number

QFT!!

I went froma 36" 1080i CRT to a 1080p HDTV and couldn't tell a difference sitting (about) 8' away.

Well the only way to really tell would be to watch a 1080P signal (HD DVD OR BluRay) and the scene would have to have a bunch of motion. And even then you'll only notice if you're looking for it.

The big jump was VHS to DVD. DVD to HD not a very big deal (and this is coming from someone that has a 110" HD projector setup).

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

ParadiddleFill

i would put plasmas at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hd tvs

Actually, they're currently the best HDTVs out there. Don't let the flashier LCD manufacturers fool you. A good Panasonic or Pioneer plasma has the best picture quality next to a CRT.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

mjarantilla

i would put plasmas at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hd tvs

Actually, they're currently the best HDTVs out there. Don't let the flashier LCD manufacturers fool you. A good Panasonic or Pioneer plasma has the best picture quality next to a CRT.

the only reason i put them at the bottom is because they are acceptable to burn ins (although the newer models are becoming better) and also the picture diminishes in contrast over time

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

ParadiddleFill

i would put plasmas at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hd tvs

Actually, they're currently the best HDTVs out there. Don't let the flashier LCD manufacturers fool you. A good Panasonic or Pioneer plasma has the best picture quality next to a CRT.

the only reason i put them at the bottom is because they are acceptable to burn ins (although the newer models are becoming better) and also the picture diminishes in contrast over time

The picture lasts at least as long as LCDs, and burn-in is nearly impossible on new models after two or three weeks.

now you're just being ridiculous. all tv will have wires exposed unless you you hide them inside the wall.

you do not need to pay for installing unless you're too inept to plug in color coded cables.

regardless what you think, lcd tv;s are a great medium for watching tv and playing games. if they weren't, they wouldn't be the most popular type of television on the market.

in the end, you fail.

latinrage69

Ah I get it...you bought an LCD and are trying to justify it. Sorry I didnt' mean to hurt your feelings. But RPTVs do a better job of hiding the wires as they all run behind it on a stand. Placing a TV on your wall or a decorative table doesn't look right unless you hide all the cables.

Trust me cable management matters to those with nice rooms/houses. When I setup my projector...I ran a 100ft HDMI cable in the wall/ceiling to it and the receiver.

Have you seen the Blame it on Halo 3 video? Super funny video but his flat panel setup is garbage as it has wires strong out across the room.

I don't understand why someone pays good money on an LCD flat panel (which is mainly bought because it's flat and can be unobtrusive and look nice/cool) just have have cables hanging out of it all over the place. Well if it's a small flat panel I can understand but big ones? Really baffles the mind.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"]

First MOST all HDTVs are either 720p or 1080i. 1080P is pretty much LCD TVs (which suck) and high end DLPs and very high end plasma TVs.

Since most people are watching on a set that does 720P does it matter?

mjarantilla

i would put plasmas at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hd tvs

Actually, they're currently the best HDTVs out there. Don't let the flashier LCD manufacturers fool you. A good Panasonic or Pioneer plasma has the best picture quality next to a CRT.

the only reason i put them at the bottom is because they are acceptable to burn ins (although the newer models are becoming better) and also the picture diminishes in contrast over time

The picture lasts at least as long as LCDs, and burn-in is nearly impossible on new models after two or three weeks.

Plasma's main drawback is price for 1080P sets.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"]now you're just being ridiculous. all tv will have wires exposed unless you you hide them inside the wall.

you do not need to pay for installing unless you're too inept to plug in color coded cables.

regardless what you think, lcd tv;s are a great medium for watching tv and playing games. if they weren't, they wouldn't be the most popular type of television on the market.

in the end, you fail.

UandalUideo

Ah I get it...you bought an LCD and are trying to justify it. Sorry I didnt' mean to hurt your feelings. But RPTVs do a better job of hiding the wires as they all run behind it on a stand. Placing a TV on your wall or a decorative table doesn't look right unless you hide all the cables.

Trust me cable management matters to those with nice rooms/houses. When I setup my projector...I ran a 100ft HDMI cable in the wall/ceiling to it and the receiver.

Have you seen the Blame it on Halo 3 video? Super funny video but his flat panel setup is garbage as it has wires strong out across the room.

I don't understand why someone pays good money on an LCD flat panel (which is mainly bought because it's flat and can be unobtrusive and look nice/cool) just have have cables hanging out of it all over the place. Well if it's a small flat panel I can understand but big ones? Really baffles the mind.

i'm not ashamed of buying an LCD tv nor do i regret it. it's the best damn purchase i made (next to the 360 of course).

what part of "it's not hanging on a fu--ing wall" do you not understand? is it so hard for you picture a flat panel tv on a tv than on a wall? are you that dense? btw, the wires are hidden by the tv stand so you fail.

i manage my cables. they are runn along the ceiling so no one can see them then run down the corners of the wall in to the av receiver and the tv.

why do i need to see a video of some one playing halo 3. if want to see some halo 3 action, i'll play it myself.

i spend good money on an lcd because it's thinner and better to watch than a behemoth crt (thought he blacks are better on a crt). btw, it's a 32" lcd. not too big, not too small.

[QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]now you're just being ridiculous. all tv will have wires exposed unless you you hide them inside the wall.

you do not need to pay for installing unless you're too inept to plug in color coded cables.

regardless what you think, lcd tv;s are a great medium for watching tv and playing games. if they weren't, they wouldn't be the most popular type of television on the market.

in the end, you fail.

latinrage69

Ah I get it...you bought an LCD and are trying to justify it. Sorry I didnt' mean to hurt your feelings. But RPTVs do a better job of hiding the wires as they all run behind it on a stand. Placing a TV on your wall or a decorative table doesn't look right unless you hide all the cables.

Trust me cable management matters to those with nice rooms/houses. When I setup my projector...I ran a 100ft HDMI cable in the wall/ceiling to it and the receiver.

Have you seen the Blame it on Halo 3 video? Super funny video but his flat panel setup is garbage as it has wires strong out across the room.

I don't understand why someone pays good money on an LCD flat panel (which is mainly bought because it's flat and can be unobtrusive and look nice/cool) just have have cables hanging out of it all over the place. Well if it's a small flat panel I can understand but big ones? Really baffles the mind.

i'm not ashamed of buying an LCD tv nor do i regret it. it's the best damn purchase i made (next to the 360 of course).

what part of "it's not hanging on a fu--ing wall" do you not understand? is it so hard for you picture a flat panel tv on a tv than on a wall? are you that dense? btw, the wires are hidden by the tv stand so you fail.

i manage my cables. they are runn along the ceiling so no one can see them then run down the corners of the wall in to the av receiver and the tv.

why do i need to see a video of some one playing halo 3. if want to see some halo 3 action, i'll play it myself.

i spend good money on an lcd because it's thinner and better to watch than a behemoth crt (thought he blacks are better on a crt). btw, it's a 32" lcd. not too big, not too small.

Do you not have ghosting issues with the LCD and gaming? A friend of mine got an LCD and hooked up his 360...it was ghosting very badly, but I kept quiet about it...no need making him notice the faults.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="UandalUideo"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]now you're just being ridiculous. all tv will have wires exposed unless you you hide them inside the wall.

you do not need to pay for installing unless you're too inept to plug in color coded cables.

regardless what you think, lcd tv;s are a great medium for watching tv and playing games. if they weren't, they wouldn't be the most popular type of television on the market.

in the end, you fail.

UandalUideo

Ah I get it...you bought an LCD and are trying to justify it. Sorry I didnt' mean to hurt your feelings. But RPTVs do a better job of hiding the wires as they all run behind it on a stand. Placing a TV on your wall or a decorative table doesn't look right unless you hide all the cables.

Trust me cable management matters to those with nice rooms/houses. When I setup my projector...I ran a 100ft HDMI cable in the wall/ceiling to it and the receiver.

Have you seen the Blame it on Halo 3 video? Super funny video but his flat panel setup is garbage as it has wires strong out across the room.

I don't understand why someone pays good money on an LCD flat panel (which is mainly bought because it's flat and can be unobtrusive and look nice/cool) just have have cables hanging out of it all over the place. Well if it's a small flat panel I can understand but big ones? Really baffles the mind.

i'm not ashamed of buying an LCD tv nor do i regret it. it's the best damn purchase i made (next to the 360 of course).

what part of "it's not hanging on a fu--ing wall" do you not understand? is it so hard for you picture a flat panel tv on a tv than on a wall? are you that dense? btw, the wires are hidden by the tv stand so you fail.

i manage my cables. they are runn along the ceiling so no one can see them then run down the corners of the wall in to the av receiver and the tv.

why do i need to see a video of some one playing halo 3. if want to see some halo 3 action, i'll play it myself.

i spend good money on an lcd because it's thinner and better to watch than a behemoth crt (thought he blacks are better on a crt). btw, it's a 32" lcd. not too big, not too small.

Do you not have ghosting issues with the LCD and gaming? A friend of mine got an LCD and hooked up his 360...it was ghosting very badly, but I kept quiet about it...no need making him notice the faults.

to answer the first question: crown molding. it's not exactly on the ceiling but near it.

second question: i have no ghosting on with the tv. it really depends on the response time of the pixels. 8ms and below will not give any ghosting. my brother had an older lcd tv that had serious ghosting issues. that tv had about a 25ms response time. those are no longer available, however.

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

HuusAsking

i dont know where you get your info from but 720p is not ED its HD

1080i is interlacedso you dont see the full image its a camera trick youre only seeing half of the pixels at one time

its not fair comparing the pixels on a 1080i set to a 720p set becuase you arent seeing half of the pixels, but on a 720p you are seeing all of the images pixel because the image isnt interlace. Thats why 720p is a higher quaility then 1080i, but again the human eye cant really tell the diffrence when watching the image from a movie veiwing distance, and all of these 1080i 720p 1080p are just numbers that in theory have value but in real world are just marketing gimmicks trying to get you to buy the tv with the bigger numbers

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]It most certainly does - through DL though not disk format.latinrage69

The download movies are only 720 movies, True HD is 1080p and those movies are too large for DL. So is lossless audio.

teh marketing terms FTL

no, i've been in video production for years. indeed, the gold standard is 1080p. will the lack thereof prevent someone from enjoying a movie or a game? no, not really.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

ParadiddleFill

i dont know where you get your info from but 720p is not ED its HD

1080i is interlacedso you dont see the full image its a camera trick youre only seeing half of the pixels at one time

its not fair comparing the pixels on a 1080i set to a 720p set becuase you arent seeing half of the pixels, but on a 720p you are seeing all of the images pixel because the image isnt interlace. Thats why 720p is a higher quaility then 1080i, but again the human eye cant really tell the diffrence when watching the image from a movie veiwing distance, and all of these 1080i 720p 1080p are just numbers that in theory have value but in real world are just marketing gimmicks trying to get you to buy the tv with the bigger numbers

um, no...720 and 1080 are resolution standards. if you have a 720p monitor, you are getting a resolution of 720 X 486, but each frame is full, not interlaced. if you have a 1080i monitor, you are getting a resolution of 1920 x 1080, but it is interlaced. 1080p is the current best right now - 1920 x 1080 progressive scan. that being said, a moving 1080 nativeimage will lookbetter than a moving 720 image. screen grabs are a different story.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

clone01

i dont know where you get your info from but 720p is not ED its HD

1080i is interlacedso you dont see the full image its a camera trick youre only seeing half of the pixels at one time

its not fair comparing the pixels on a 1080i set to a 720p set becuase you arent seeing half of the pixels, but on a 720p you are seeing all of the images pixel because the image isnt interlace. Thats why 720p is a higher quaility then 1080i, but again the human eye cant really tell the diffrence when watching the image from a movie veiwing distance, and all of these 1080i 720p 1080p are just numbers that in theory have value but in real world are just marketing gimmicks trying to get you to buy the tv with the bigger numbers

um, no...720 and 1080 are resolution standards. if you have a 720p monitor, you are getting a resolution of 720 X 486, but each frame is full, not interlaced. if you have a 1080i monitor, you are getting a resolution of 1920 x 1080, but it is interlaced. 1080p is the current best right now - 1920 x 1080 progressive scan. that being said, a moving 1080 nativeimage will lookbetter than a moving 720 image. screen grabs are a different story.

umm...with 720p you get a resolution of 1280 x 720, not 720 x 486. also, 720 x 480, not 486, is the resolution of a widescreen dvd and slightly less than EDTV (852 x 480). 1080p is the current "best" for the consumer market but there are resolutions that are much higher (up to 4320p to be exact). though if you have a screen below 50" of sit more than 10" from the screen, you will not notice any difference between 720p/1080i/p at all.

Are people really this clueless?

Well if DVD had enough space for a full HD movie, that kinda makes BR/HD-DVD obsolete. no?

Blue-Sky

Agreed

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]It most certainly does - through DL though not disk format.killzowned24

The download movies are only 720 movies, True HD is 1080p and those movies are too large for DL. So is lossless audio.

teh marketing terms FTL

how so?

1080p has over 2 times more pixels then HDlite 720p.

so what's 1440p or 1600p?

It doesn't offer full HD movies from disc, either DVD or HD-DVD. Both formats have to compress video and audio to fit on the disc.AIH_PSP

technically no format offers uncompressed video

you have to watch the original master for that

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

latinrage69

i dont know where you get your info from but 720p is not ED its HD

1080i is interlacedso you dont see the full image its a camera trick youre only seeing half of the pixels at one time

its not fair comparing the pixels on a 1080i set to a 720p set becuase you arent seeing half of the pixels, but on a 720p you are seeing all of the images pixel because the image isnt interlace. Thats why 720p is a higher quaility then 1080i, but again the human eye cant really tell the diffrence when watching the image from a movie veiwing distance, and all of these 1080i 720p 1080p are just numbers that in theory have value but in real world are just marketing gimmicks trying to get you to buy the tv with the bigger numbers

um, no...720 and 1080 are resolution standards. if you have a 720p monitor, you are getting a resolution of 720 X 486, but each frame is full, not interlaced. if you have a 1080i monitor, you are getting a resolution of 1920 x 1080, but it is interlaced. 1080p is the current best right now - 1920 x 1080 progressive scan. that being said, a moving 1080 nativeimage will lookbetter than a moving 720 image. screen grabs are a different story.

umm...with 720p you get a resolution of 1280 x 720, not 720 x 486. also, 720 x 480, not 486, is the resolution of a widescreen dvd and slightly less than EDTV (852 x 480). 1080p is the current "best" for the consumer market but there are resolutions that are much higher (up to 4320p to be exact). though if you have a screen below 50" of sit more than 10" from the screen, you will not notice any difference between 720p/1080i/p at all.

my apologies...i'm working in NTSC (which is 720 x 486)world right now, and i mixed up my 720pnumbers...yes, there are higher resolutions, but i was referring to the consumer market. also, watch an NFL game on CBS (1080i) and then watch one on ESPN (720p) and i have to say there is quite a big difference.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

I don't know if 1080p is gonna be all that big a deal...unless someone's come up with a way to transmit 1080p60 TV signals for sporting events (the current standard's bandwidth limits the signal to either 720p60 or 1080i30/60--1080i is good enough for film but high-motion events like those on ESPNHD use 720p to prevent interlace tearing).

As for the whole "HD is 1080p only" argument...technically, 720p is not HD...it's ED. HD is defined officially as 1080i, but since like I said before interlace tearing occurs with fast motion, 720p has its uses and is thus usually called HD as well.

PS. SDTV is defined as 480p.

clone01

i dont know where you get your info from but 720p is not ED its HD

1080i is interlacedso you dont see the full image its a camera trick youre only seeing half of the pixels at one time

its not fair comparing the pixels on a 1080i set to a 720p set becuase you arent seeing half of the pixels, but on a 720p you are seeing all of the images pixel because the image isnt interlace. Thats why 720p is a higher quaility then 1080i, but again the human eye cant really tell the diffrence when watching the image from a movie veiwing distance, and all of these 1080i 720p 1080p are just numbers that in theory have value but in real world are just marketing gimmicks trying to get you to buy the tv with the bigger numbers

um, no...720 and 1080 are resolution standards. if you have a 720p monitor, you are getting a resolution of 720 X 486, but each frame is full, not interlaced. if you have a 1080i monitor, you are getting a resolution of 1920 x 1080, but it is interlaced. 1080p is the current best right now - 1920 x 1080 progressive scan. that being said, a moving 1080 nativeimage will lookbetter than a moving 720 image. screen grabs are a different story.

umm...with 720p you get a resolution of 1280 x 720, not 720 x 486. also, 720 x 480, not 486, is the resolution of a widescreen dvd and slightly less than EDTV (852 x 480). 1080p is the current "best" for the consumer market but there are resolutions that are much higher (up to 4320p to be exact). though if you have a screen below 50" of sit more than 10" from the screen, you will not notice any difference between 720p/1080i/p at all.

my apologies...i'm working in NTSC (which is 720 x 486)world right now, and i mixed up my 720pnumbers...yes, there are higher resolutions, but i was referring to the consumer market. also, watch an NFL game on CBS (1080i) and then watch one on ESPN (720p) and i have to say there is quite a big difference.

yea. ESPN is smoother during fast paced sequences (football/other sports) like other 720p channels while CBS and other 1080i channels are slightly sharper. they both still pale in comparison to an HD movie from xbox live video marketplace and hd dvd/blu-ray.