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#101 daveg1
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i get 1080p with my hdmi 360 ...
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#103 daveg1
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If you dont own a 1080p t.v. .....none of this matters.

If you do own a 1080p t.v......then;

with my xbox 360 ( with out a hd-dvd add on ) i get;

1080p games ( mostly upscaled from 720p but there are some native 1080p games )

720p digital download movies from the marketplace.

with the HD-DVD add-on ;

Full 1080p hd-dvds every bit as nice or nicer than blu ray disc.

With my PS3;

most games support 720p only and look like crap when upscaled to 1080i/1080p

virtually no digital movie or tv show downloads available

full 1080p blu ray disc with extreme variety in picture quality with many,many terribly mastered blu ray movies that are a complete waste of money and a rip off.

I get much more movie use from my xbox360 set up than my ps3.

Videodogg
everything you just said there was the complete and utter ...................truth...... lol yeah i know i have that stuff too and ive seen the same things you mentioned..
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#104 Riverwolf007
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Hey look the guys that paid up to $600 for a system that comes with a PS1 av cable and does 480i out of the box want to judge the 360, now that's entertainment.
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#105 dream431ca
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i get 1080p with my hdmi 360 ...daveg1

Correction..Upscaled 1080p from 1080i.

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#106 wooooode
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Well if by True HD you mean 1080p then no. But not all BD's are even 1080p at this time which is odd to me.
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#107 SkullboyX
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The people that argue HD-DVD does not offer HD signals are the sort of people that argue VGA is high definition (that's right, it's not). These people have no idea, and have no insider knowledge. These people are naive 15 year olds that think they know best. These people are wrong.Matmoo_Wii60
Then you are telling me that my computer is not doing HD!?!?!?
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#108 mjarantilla
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Well if by True HD you mean 1080p then no. But not all BD's are even 1080p at this time which is odd to me.wooooode

All BDs and HDDVDs are 1080p.

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#109 jdang307
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"true HD" :roll:Jandurin

I have a buddy that does CGI in LA. In their circles, True or FullHD is 1080p. 720p and 1080i is called half HD. That's in the industry.The FCC has labeled HD as 720p and 1080i, and never even contemplated 1080p originally. But the FCC deals with broadcasting. So take your pick.

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#111 TheCanadianRage
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]Well if by True HD you mean 1080p then no. But not all BD's are even 1080p at this time which is odd to me.mjarantilla

All BDs and HDDVDs are 1080p.

no

there are some BD movies that are 1080i

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]"true HD" :roll:jdang307

I have a buddy that does CGI in LA. In their circles, True or FullHD is 1080p. 720p and 1080i is called half HD. That's in the industry.The FCC has labeled HD as 720p and 1080i, and never even contemplated 1080p originally. But the FCC deals with broadcasting. So take your pick.

full HD is nothing but a marketing term

1080p isn't even a high resolution compared to some dispalys out there

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#112 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]"true HD" :roll:jdang307

I have a buddy that does CGI in LA. In their circles, True or FullHD is 1080p. 720p and 1080i is called half HD. That's in the industry.The FCC has labeled HD as 720p and 1080i, and never even contemplated 1080p originally. But the FCC deals with broadcasting. So take your pick.

My pick is: 480p. Enhanced Definition ftw.
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#113 PelekotansDream
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WTF, I thought that one post I recieved was all the attention this topic will get and I come back to see its over 100 posts...

Its just one simple question.

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#114 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

If you dont own a 1080p t.v. .....none of this matters.

If you do own a 1080p t.v......then;

with my xbox 360 ( with out a hd-dvd add on ) i get;

1080p games ( mostly upscaled from 720p but there are some native 1080p games )

720p digital download movies from the marketplace.

with the HD-DVD add-on ;

Full 1080p hd-dvds every bit as nice or nicer than blu ray disc.

With my PS3;

most games support 720p only and look like crap when upscaled to 1080i/1080p

virtually no digital movie or tv show downloads available

full 1080p blu ray disc with extreme variety in picture quality with many,many terribly mastered blu ray movies that are a complete waste of money and a rip off.

I get much more movie use from my xbox360 set up than my ps3.

daveg1

everything you just said there was the complete and utter ...................truth...... lol yeah i know i have that stuff too and ive seen the same things you mentioned..

Now Let me Clear up that crap that was posted

when it comes to HD PS3 owns 360

LINK to HD article

When to come to games running 1080 P natively PS3 has like probably 4 times as much games running this resolution were as X360 has two I think. I only know of Virtua Tennis, but i think there was another one

As for HD movie Viewing I am yet to hear a review telling me X360 is any where near as good as PS3. Heck PS3 ranks near the top even compared to standalone BD players

That dude at the top was either joking or lacking in up to date info

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#115 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Granted. The PS3 is a great movie player.
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#116 dru26
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One could always get a reciever or tv that converts all programming to 1080p or whatever HD selection you intend on using. But besides that every recent 360 game that I have in my collection has 1080p as a usuable selection on the back of the box. Unlike some of my ps3 games, most notably Motorstorm and R+C, which are 720p. This whole argument is rather pointless, as both HD-DVDs and BDs can display in "TrueHD".
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#117 rockydog1111
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Are people really this clueless?

Well if DVD had enough space for a full HD movie, that kinda makes BR/HD-DVD obsolete. no?

Jandurin

Actually, DVDs do have enough space for 720p movies. But don't let the electronics industry catch you spreading that around. They have a little bit of money invested in making you buy new things.

not enough room for other languages and all the "options". But, yes, definitely enough space.

Only if compressed, which takes away from overall quality.

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Only if compressed, which takes away from overall quality.rockydog1111
There are uncompressed 720p movies that take up only 4 gigs.
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#119 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]i get 1080p with my hdmi 360 ...dream431ca

Correction..Upscaled 1080p from 1080i.

no actualy its 720p upscaled the 1080i/p

anyways i was talking about hd-dvd's..

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[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

If you dont own a 1080p t.v. .....none of this matters.

If you do own a 1080p t.v......then;

with my xbox 360 ( with out a hd-dvd add on ) i get;

1080p games ( mostly upscaled from 720p but there are some native 1080p games )

720p digital download movies from the marketplace.

with the HD-DVD add-on ;

Full 1080p hd-dvds every bit as nice or nicer than blu ray disc.

With my PS3;

most games support 720p only and look like crap when upscaled to 1080i/1080p

virtually no digital movie or tv show downloads available

full 1080p blu ray disc with extreme variety in picture quality with many,many terribly mastered blu ray movies that are a complete waste of money and a rip off.

I get much more movie use from my xbox360 set up than my ps3.

Blinblingthing

everything you just said there was the complete and utter ...................truth...... lol yeah i know i have that stuff too and ive seen the same things you mentioned..

Now Let me Clear up that crap that was posted

when it comes to HD PS3 owns 360

LINK to HD article

When to come to games running 1080 P natively PS3 has like probably 4 times as much games running this resolution were as X360 has two I think. I only know of Virtua Tennis, but i think there was another one

As for HD movie Viewing I am yet to hear a review telling me X360 is any where near as good as PS3. Heck PS3 ranks near the top even compared to standalone BD players

That dude at the top was either joking or lacking in up to date info

Funny, all the games I've played on PS3 so far run in 720p. Dirt, Bioshock, and Call of Duty 4 run in 1080p on 360.

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#121 Impex
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]It most certainly does - through DL though not disk format.Jandurin

The download movies are only 720 movies, True HD is 1080p and those movies are too large for DL. So is lossless audio.

"true HD" :roll:

Yeah, I can barely even tell the difference. My Toshiba 37" 720p looks better than some 1080p TVs.

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#122 TheCanadianRage
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

If you dont own a 1080p t.v. .....none of this matters.

If you do own a 1080p t.v......then;

with my xbox 360 ( with out a hd-dvd add on ) i get;

1080p games ( mostly upscaled from 720p but there are some native 1080p games )

720p digital download movies from the marketplace.

with the HD-DVD add-on ;

Full 1080p hd-dvds every bit as nice or nicer than blu ray disc.

With my PS3;

most games support 720p only and look like crap when upscaled to 1080i/1080p

virtually no digital movie or tv show downloads available

full 1080p blu ray disc with extreme variety in picture quality with many,many terribly mastered blu ray movies that are a complete waste of money and a rip off.

I get much more movie use from my xbox360 set up than my ps3.

Spindoc_SEI

everything you just said there was the complete and utter ...................truth...... lol yeah i know i have that stuff too and ive seen the same things you mentioned..

Now Let me Clear up that crap that was posted

when it comes to HD PS3 owns 360

LINK to HD article

When to come to games running 1080 P natively PS3 has like probably 4 times as much games running this resolution were as X360 has two I think. I only know of Virtua Tennis, but i think there was another one

As for HD movie Viewing I am yet to hear a review telling me X360 is any where near as good as PS3. Heck PS3 ranks near the top even compared to standalone BD players

That dude at the top was either joking or lacking in up to date info

Funny, all the games I've played on PS3 so far run in 720p. Dirt, Bioshock, and Call of Duty 4 run in 1080p on 360.

actually none of those games run in 1080p on 360

360 just scales the games to 1080p

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#123 Spindoc_SEI
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I love all the upscaling arguments that go on, it makes me laugh.
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#124 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="rockydog1111"]Only if compressed, which takes away from overall quality.Jandurin
There are uncompressed 720p movies that take up only 4 gigs.

1. How long timewise are they?

2. They'd be impossible to play in a stock DVD player uncompressed--you can't even play uncompressed DVD footage on a stock drive (bandwidth is the problem here--you'll overwhelm the drive).

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#125 HuusAsking
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actually none of those games run in 1080p on 360

360 just scales the games to 1080p

TheCanadianRage
In the final analysis, does resolution really matter? Halo 3 doesn't render 720p natively but has high definition lighting...and scored a 9.5. I won't go further from there. Meanwhile, there's a decent list of 1080p native PS3 games...yet not one exclusive's managed to even reach 9.0.
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#126 HuusAsking
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I have to ponder again. Is a 1080p TV even worth it right now when there aren't even 1080p TV signals available on broadcast, satellite, or cable (sat and cable usually stick to the FCC standard--and the FCC standard precludes 1080p because of bandwidth and codec limitations). Sure, there are 1080p sources besides television, but in the end what do we watch more often than the rest. 2 to 1 it's the good-ol' telly.
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#127 Bgrngod
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BAMB!!! 1080p on your 360.
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#128 Videodogg
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[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

If you dont own a 1080p t.v. .....none of this matters.

If you do own a 1080p t.v......then;

with my xbox 360 ( with out a hd-dvd add on ) i get;

1080p games ( mostly upscaled from 720p but there are some native 1080p games )

720p digital download movies from the marketplace.

with the HD-DVD add-on ;

Full 1080p hd-dvds every bit as nice or nicer than blu ray disc.

With my PS3;

most games support 720p only and look like crap when upscaled to 1080i/1080p

virtually no digital movie or tv show downloads available

full 1080p blu ray disc with extreme variety in picture quality with many,many terribly mastered blu ray movies that are a complete waste of money and a rip off.

I get much more movie use from my xbox360 set up than my ps3.

Blinblingthing

everything you just said there was the complete and utter ...................truth...... lol yeah i know i have that stuff too and ive seen the same things you mentioned..

Now Let me Clear up that crap that was posted

when it comes to HD PS3 owns 360

LINK to HD article

When to come to games running 1080 P natively PS3 has like probably 4 times as much games running this resolution were as X360 has two I think. I only know of Virtua Tennis, but i think there was another one

As for HD movie Viewing I am yet to hear a review telling me X360 is any where near as good as PS3. Heck PS3 ranks near the top even compared to standalone BD players

That dude at the top was either joking or lacking in up to date info

No i am not joking or uninformed. I speak from practical experience from owning both console which work side by side, hooked up to the same Samsung 1080p dlp hdtv. I sure dont see any HD advantage with the PS3,