[QUOTE="rexoverbey"]Wrong, tests have been done that shows the PS3 using a mere 25-30 watts more than 360 pretty much uniformly (except in idle where the difference is much closer). Post the test! There is no way RSX which is based off 7800/7900 architecture is using only 25 watts more. The whole 360 system only uses 200watts where as the PS3 uses 385 watts.The PS3 uses a high wattage GPU based off a PC GPU. I don't know the exact number for RSX but the Cell and RSX use 385 watts!
Runningflame570
360 vs ps3 overall build quality analysis ( no 56k)
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HIGH WATTAGE = HIGH HEAT LOW WATTAGE = LOW HEAT ^^^ It's pretty elementary understanding.The CPU is drawing most of those watts as I already showed you earlier. The Xenos is effecient and uses only 35 Watts w/ the whole system using less than 200. Plus those PC numbers are WAY OFF unless they are using motherboard built in graphics. The 8800GTX alone uses 140-170 watts by itself. "Nvidia suggest a power consumption of 140-170W depending on the manufacturer and the cooling device since it can also drain some power. " http://news.softpedia.com/news/8800GTX-Power-Analysis-40450.shtml
YEA, BUT THE XBOX CONSUMES A LOT...
INFACT. 360 I CONSUMES ALMOST AS MUCH AS THIS BEAST PC.
CPU: Intel Core 2 X6800 BEAST
Video Card: Foxconn GeForce 7950GT BEAST
Motherboard: Intel DX975XBX BEAST
Audio: Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty BEAST
Memory: 4GB DDR2 6400 BEAST
CAN YOU SAY INEFICIENT CRAP?
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-1.htm
LOOK AT THE 360 AVERAGE 176w LOL...
AND IDLE? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
LOL. THAT PC IS A HUGE HUGE MONSTER. YET CONSUMES LESS.
Core 2 X6800 IIS THE MOST POWERFUL CPU IN EXISTENCE + 4GB OF MEMORY !!!!!
. 360 IS A FREAKING OVEN . YOU CANOT SPIN THAT.
machitocaliente
SPIN THIS
The CPU is drawing most of those watts as I already showed you earlier. The Xenos is effecient and uses only 35 Watts w/ the whole system using less than 200. Plus those PC numbers are WAY OFF unless they are using motherboard built in graphics. The 8800GTX alone uses 140-170 watts by itself. "Nvidia suggest a power consumption of 140-170W depending on the manufacturer and the cooling device since it can also drain some power. " http://news.softpedia.com/news/8800GTX-Power-Analysis-40450.shtml[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]HIGH WATTAGE = HIGH HEAT LOW WATTAGE = LOW HEAT ^^^ It's pretty elementary understanding.
YEA, BUT THE XBOX CONSUMES A LOT...
INFACT. 360 I CONSUMES ALMOST AS MUCH AS THIS BEAST PC.
CPU: Intel Core 2 X6800 BEAST
Video Card: Foxconn GeForce 7950GT BEAST
Motherboard: Intel DX975XBX BEAST
Audio: Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty BEAST
Memory: 4GB DDR2 6400 BEAST
CAN YOU SAY INEFICIENT CRAP?
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-1.htm
LOOK AT THE 360 AVERAGE 176w LOL...
AND IDLE? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
LOL. THAT PC IS A HUGE HUGE MONSTER. YET CONSUMES LESS.
Core 2 X6800 IIS THE MOST POWERFUL CPU IN EXISTENCE + 4GB OF MEMORY !!!!!
. 360 IS A FREAKING OVEN . YOU CANOT SPIN THAT.
rexoverbey
SPIN THIS
i have nothing to spin. Im right. you are wrong. end of story. read the test again. any modern GPU has independent 2d / 3d clocks. AND YOU FAIL AGAIN, the vga in the test it not a 8800gtx yet IT DESTROYS XENOS REALLY REALLY BAD. + 4 gb of ddr2 800 ram + the most powerful cpu on earth = less consumption than xbox 360 with retro power pc based cpu. OVEN. END OF STORY[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]
EXPELLED OUT THROUGH THE BACK IS THE ONLY CORRECT PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS
COOL AIR ITS NOT PASSING TROW THE HEATSINK AT ANY TIME.. INTERNAL HOT AIR IS EXPELLED OUT OF THE CASE. YOU NEED A FRONT COOLER 2 DO THAT.
thinicer
Yes it is passing over the heatsink because the hot air is being directly sucked from the heat sink on both GPU & CPU and passed out the back. The hot air that surrounds the heatsink is then replaced with cooler outside air that rushes into the console from the vents on the top and sides of the console. There can't be a vacuum of air inside, correct? If air exits, it HAS to enter from somewhere. It's simple physics, and you're disagreeing with it. Nice job. It may not be the most efficient of cooling mechanisms, but it gets the job done, at least for me! My 360 is not at all hot to the touch, it's just a little warm after a good hour of playing Gears, and it's doing its job cooling.
Now if what you say is true, then the 360 would be scalding hot because, afterall, hot air would continue to accumulate inside to the point where it just reaches melt down. It's totally false.
If the 360 is such an inefficient cooling mechanism, then I guess my console must be a complete abberation because it never gets hot on the outside. It cools efficiently.
It dsnt work that way. the cpu uses some sort of pseudo-passive cooling, the gpu relies on rather ineffective passive cooling , both the gpu and cpu are 2 thermally isolated components, the fan duct + rear fans force the hot air out NOT IN. this maintains the upper part of the copper heatpipe cooler than the lower part. heat travels 2 the upper (cooler part) and goes away from the processor ( dissipation )
the vents are meryl there to recycle the air inside, they DO NOT provide direct airflow to the gpu nor cpu. in order to accomplish that you need UNRESTRICTED AND DIRECT AIRFLOW PATH . THAT + some form of FAN DIRECTLY MOUNTED ONTO THE HEATSINK , the fins of that particular heatsink are not wide enough all they do is provide and increase of the surface area ( aluminium)
your teory barely works with cpu coolers like these optimized to get performace from low airflow
( guess what, they have really well spaced fins )
Any tighter, and fanless operation would not be possible because of the impedance to airflow
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