360's online play is exactly like the Wii's...

Because we don't have to punch in 15 digit code whenever we want to invite play with someone specific?

Exactly, but people so claim the Xbox 360 has a better service over the Wii and PlayStation 3, yet it has lag also.Hiroshi_Ichirou

[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"][QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

Because we don't have to punch in 15 digit code whenever we want to invite play with someone specific?

shoryuken_

How is he wrong? It's a fact that you have to put in your Wii friend code and a friend code for most games (individually) on the Wii whereas for the 360 you just add the Gamertag.

I wasn't disagreeing with the actual comment, just the fact that he wants the Xbox 360 to look good even though its almost the same as the other consoles lag wise. I really see no reason at all to make the Xbox 360 seem like the king of a online service if it isn't lag free and works almost the same as a Wii or a PlayStation 3. As for bring up something in your later post about the Xbox 360 having downloadable content, that has nothing to do with a online service as far as online playing against people.

Not only that, although people feel the Xbox 360 has more players and everyone has a mic, I gureentee its a few people who don't have a mic. Not that any of that stuff makes it a better sevice, its all mearly opinion.

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

No, Wii's online is better because the games are more fun.

Dear h575309's Wii,

Sorry that you are collecting dust even though your games are more fun than the xbox 360s.

Sincerely, DaBrainz

i didn't know people said 360 online play is better as it's p2p so it's down to the host whether your connection will be good or not. the wii's online is poorly executed with the friend codes. as for playing a game like mario kart online it's just as pleasant as playing a 360 game, same applies to ps3 online (unless private servers are used).

The wii's online play is horrible. o look. i want to add my friend so i can meessage him. one code. i want to play him in ssbb another code. so and so forth.

XBL has very little lag. o and can you chat to your friends well your playing on the wii.

all i can say about the this topics creator. is check out the other services before you got say. the wii online is just as good as the 360.

the only thing the wii is good for. is playing with people with you. in the same room

[QUOTE="T_0_D"]

Your issue comes from several different things. Any game played online will have lag, period end of discussion. Infromation must travel from system to system and this creates lag. Now a way around this is to have dedicated servers so "everyone experiences the same lag". Most 360 games do not have dedicated servers. This can be good or bad depending on your view of things. The bad is that if the "host" of the game has a bad connection then you will experience potential game breaking lag. The good is that no matter how long a game has been out my friends and I can play the game if we both have internet and copies of the game since thier is no server to maintain.

This all being said I would suspect that your friend has a poor internet connection or has not addressed his potential router connection issues. L4D has dedicated servers so any lag he is experiencing is self imposed. COD4 on the other hand does not so he could have either had a poor connection with someone or another issue may have been present.

Now to address your topic. The 360's online play is not exactly like th Wii's. Live's gold experience is ahead of both Nintendo's and Sony's. This is because MS decided to dive into online gaming last generation and has had extra time to work out the issues of maintaining a system like this. Right now I think that their service is worth $40/year. When Sony/Nintendo catch up then I will have to make a choice if I want to continue to pay for a service that is available for free from another supplier (which Sony is getting better and better but is not their yet).

Sorry for the long post but it amazes me when people make uniformed/ignorant comments/posts about online gaming.

nini200

I was under the impression that when you pay for Xbox Live Gold, you were paying for dedicated servers but from what you stated, you're not?

Nope, he has the same connection as I do, running a Wireless N through 6mb connection. Connection is not the issue.

Explain what is the difference with Xbox Live Gold and what makes it better than the other two, that's what I want to know. Everybody here has said Xbox Live is better but noone has stated what makes it better besides gamertags. Why is it better?

And the last comment, I don't mind the occasional long post so no need for apology. The rest was a little harsh though. I will admit, I am a little ignorant when it comes to every aspect of online gaming though.

I have found your friends problem. Using a wireless connection will add to whatever lag he is experiencing. Also what type of router does he have? He probably has not forwarded the appropriate ports or has to strict of a firewall setting enabled. Both of these issues can contribute to or add lag on top of what will exist normally. Vist www.portforward.com to learn more.

The featuresof Xbox Live/360 online service that I thinkbring value:
- Most users have microphones: I enjoy playing online shootersstrategically and being able to easily communicate with my teamates is imperative. PS3 is getting better but not their yet. I do not play the Wii so I really do not know what options it has for mics.
- Cross game chat/private chat options for friends.
- Large and diverse userbase: This can be a double edged sword. It is fun playing with people from all over the world but can be a problem with games such as GEOW2 that do not have dedicated servers and are very susceptible to lag.
- Onlineawareness of all games.
- Intuitive interface...for me at least.
- Large offering ofquality online arcade games.
- Easy to use downloadoptions for expandable games like Rock Band. I have downloaded probably fifty or sixty extra songs for this game and really enjoy the system that is in place.
- Large library of games that interest me. Including PC/360 games that I want to play sitting on a couch in my livingroom not having to worry about updating a computer.
- Netflix, even though I do not use it many of my friends do.

This list is just off the top of my head. As far as being harsh, you really should expect some heated debate when you make a controversial comparison like comparing Nintendo's tacked on online alternative to a unified/refined system that is being offered by MS.

Joke thread confirmed, play more Wii and 360 games and you'll see why they're different.

No, Wii's online is better because the games are more fun.

DaBrainz

Does wii have voice chat?Deihmos

Some do. Some wii games work great on wii like mario kart andd James bond Quantom of Solace

the 360's online = the Wii's??!?!?!!!:o:lol: The PSN is "leagues" better than the Wii's online, let alone the 360

The wii's online play is horrible. o look. i want to add my friend so i can meessage him. one code. i want to play him in ssbb another code. so and so forth.

XBL has very little lag. o and can you chat to your friends well your playing on the wii.

all i can say about the this topics creator. is check out the other services before you got say. the wii online is just as good as the 360.

the only thing the wii is good for. is playing with people with you. in the same room

James161324

You say that, yet you don't know that the Wii has WiiSpeak? You may need to take your own advice

What planet are you from?

[QUOTE="nini200"]

I was watching my cousin play CoD4 yesterday and I was thinking that there should be no lag, yet when he pulled up the opponents list, the connections weren't all perfect like they should've been considering that most people here nag about how the 360's online play is far superior to both PS3 and Wii. He sometimes had to shoot a little ahead of the opponent due to lag just like the Wii version of CoD WaW, and sometimes he had a perfect connection just like the Wii version of CoD WaW.

Also, we were playing Left 4 Dead (Great game btw), and halfway into the second match, the match dropped due to connection failure and he stated that it happens quite often which is also weird because people here claim that it is just sooo perfect.

Now Halo 3 worked fine with no lag or anything but so does Mario Kart Wii and Battallion Wars 2.

As much as people here try to down the Wii for the same stuff, I noticed no difference in the actualonline play. Now seeing who's online playing what is nice but you can do that in EA online games on the Wii as well, that's just an user interface, a nice one but that can be added with an update.

Now I'm not an expert on 360's online or anything, I'm just stating what Iexperienced yesterday.

Now can anybody tell me honestly, why is the 360's online play considered so much better than the others?

mythrol

CoD4 doesent have bullet travel time. You shoot it hits. Your leading people cuz of lag. You do that in all games trust me.

Not many games have the actual bullet traveling to its target so you can like see the tracers flying trough the air in a arc for a small ammount of time.

i have no clue why you used L4D when they game runs by dedicated servers. Second of all, halo 3 and cod4 pretty much have the same online coding, they both use CSHD, the lag is still there, the developers are just very good at hiding the lag. In conclusion, it just seem you just wanted to bash the 360 online, saying xbox live sucks would have been easier.

I lag on PSN also. SO does that mean the PS3's online is the same a the Wii'?

[QUOTE="James161324"]

The wii's online play is horrible. o look. i want to add my friend so i can meessage him. one code. i want to play him in ssbb another code. so and so forth.

XBL has very little lag. o and can you chat to your friends well your playing on the wii.

all i can say about the this topics creator. is check out the other services before you got say. the wii online is just as good as the 360.

the only thing the wii is good for. is playing with people with you. in the same room

nini200

You say that, yet you don't know that the Wii has WiiSpeak? You may need to take your own advice

so if you want to talk with some people you need to pay another 30 bucks. and then you can only talk to 4 people at once. FAIL

i have been in xbl partys with 16+ different people.

I have found your friends problem. Using a wireless connection will add to whatever lag he is experiencing. Also what type of router does he have? He probably has not forwarded the appropriate ports or has to strict of a firewall setting enabled. Both of these issues can contribute to or add lag on top of what will exist normally. Vist www.portforward.com to learn more.

The featuresof Xbox Live/360 online service that I thinkbring value:
- Most users have microphones: I enjoy playing online shootersstrategically and being able to easily communicate with my teamates is imperative. PS3 is getting better but not their yet. I do not play the Wii so I really do not know what options it has for mics.
- Cross game chat/private chat options for friends.
- Large and diverse userbase: This can be a double edged sword. It is fun playing with people from all over the world but can be a problem with games such as GEOW2 that do not have dedicated servers and are very susceptible to lag.
- Onlineawareness of all games.
- Intuitive interface...for me at least.
- Large offering ofquality online arcade games.
- Easy to use downloadoptions for expandable games like Rock Band. I have downloaded probably fifty or sixty extra songs for this game and really enjoy the system that is in place.
- Large library of games that interest me. Including PC/360 games that I want to play sitting on a couch in my livingroom not having to worry about updating a computer.
- Netflix, even though I do not use it many of my friends do.

This list is just off the top of my head. As far as being harsh, you really should expect some heated debate when you make a controversial comparison like comparing Nintendo's tacked on online alternative to a unified/refined system that is being offered by MS.

T_0_D

Thanks for trying to at least put some thought into your posts unlike most of the people here that have Obviously never played a Wii and just want to bash it.

To Answer your features list:

1. Yes, the Wii has a Voice Chat/Microphone it's called WiiSpeak

2. Also Available through the WiiSpeak Channel

3. The Wii also has a Large Diverse Userbase. That is true about the Double Edge Sword.

4 & 5. Basically 4 & 5 can be added with a simpleupdate.

6. Basicallyyour opinion. You're entitled to that.

7. Now that the Wii is starting to support Full DLC like 360 and PS3, download content will be pretty much the same ease of use. I think they are going to use DLC through SD Cards up to 32 GB for now at least.

8. again, opinion. The Wii has a large library of games that interest me.

9. I've read here that the Wii is thinking about streaming movies through netflix as well.

Oh I expected plenty of heat but the fact still stands, the online play in 360 is just as laggy as it is on Wii or PS3. Some games are lagfests and some work beautifully.

but saying the wii's online service is just as good as the 360 or ps3 is a fail

and its a fight your never win

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

The wii's online play is horrible. o look. i want to add my friend so i can meessage him. one code. i want to play him in ssbb another code. so and so forth.

XBL has very little lag. o and can you chat to your friends well your playing on the wii.

all i can say about the this topics creator. is check out the other services before you got say. the wii online is just as good as the 360.

the only thing the wii is good for. is playing with people with you. in the same room

James161324

You say that, yet you don't know that the Wii has WiiSpeak? You may need to take your own advice

so if you want to talk with some people you need to pay another 30 bucks. and then you can only talk to 4 people at once. FAIL

i have been in xbl partys with 16+ different people.

While you have to pay $30 once for Voice chat on the Wii, you have to pay a continuous amount monthly or yearly just to chat online with the 360, so $30 compared to the $100's calculated overtimesounds much better.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

[QUOTE="nini200"]

You say that, yet you don't know that the Wii has WiiSpeak? You may need to take your own advice

nini200

so if you want to talk with some people you need to pay another 30 bucks. and then you can only talk to 4 people at once. FAIL

i have been in xbl partys with 16+ different people.

While you have to pay $30 once for Voice chat on the Wii, you have to pay a continuous amount monthly or yearly just to chat online with the 360, so $30 compared to the $100's calculated overtimesounds much better.

that is the same lame excuse. that everyone who doesn't use xbl uses. dude fine i a better excuse. i rather paying 3-4 for a half way decent service. be able to play with my friends without jumping throuh a ton stuff. and i like demos.

and have the abilty to know when my friends are online. jump right into the game there playing and be able to talk to people in game and with more than 3 friends

i have no clue why you used L4D when they game runs by dedicated servers. Second of all, halo 3 and cod4 pretty much have the same online coding, they both use CSHD, the lag is still there, the developers are just very good at hiding the lag. In conclusion, it just seem you just wanted to bash the 360 online, saying xbox live sucks would have been easier.

Dante2710

Not true, I don't want to bash the 360's online, I'm just trying to point out that it isn't better simply because they all lag when you're playing online. Now I can agree that the 360's Online UI is better than the Wii and PS3's but the actual Online PLAY is the same, all are laggy depending on the game.

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

so if you want to talk with some people you need to pay another 30 bucks. and then you can only talk to 4 people at once. FAIL

i have been in xbl partys with 16+ different people.

James161324

While you have to pay $30 once for Voice chat on the Wii, you have to pay a continuous amount monthly or yearly just to chat online with the 360, so $30 compared to the $100's calculated overtimesounds much better.

that is the same lame excuse. that everyone who doesn't use xbl uses. dude fine i a better excuse. i rather paying 3-4 for a half way decent service. be able to play with my friends without jumping throuh a ton stuff. and i like demos.

and have the abilty to know when my friends are online. jump right into the game there playing and be able to talk to people in game and with more than 3 friends

You have no clue what this thread is about. There is no argument with you anymore.

I lag on PSN also. SO does that mean the PS3's online is the same a the Wii'?

RyanShazam

No, but it does mean that theOnline PLAY is. All of them have lag. How many times am I going to have to write this before people understand what this thread clearly states in the title?

TC, are you sure that the lag wasn't caused by your friend's NAT settings?

TC, are you sure that the lag wasn't caused by your friend's NAT settings?

skelebull3000

That is possible but if that is set properly, will the 360's online play be lag free?

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

TC, are you sure that the lag wasn't caused by your friend's NAT settings?

nini200

That is possible but if that is set properly, will the 360's online play be lag free?

Every game has lag :/ The lag won't completely vanish but it'll play a lot better.

Wow this thread has alot of posts. I own all three consoles, and the 360 has the best online features by far. Not really sure why people are trying to say otherwise. Thread is fail.

Wow this thread has alot of posts. I own all three consoles, and the 360 has the best online features by far. Not really sure why people are trying to say otherwise. Thread is fail.

h575309

Maybe because this thread isn't about the online "FEATURES", it's about the online "PLAY" making You = Fail

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Wow this thread has alot of posts. I own all three consoles, and the 360 has the best online features by far. Not really sure why people are trying to say otherwise. Thread is fail.

nini200

Maybe because this thread isn't about the online "FEATURES", it's about the online "PLAY" making You = Fail

Features influence the "play".

What planet are you from?

Gamertag-TFTW

don't make threads like this saying that the 360 online play is exactly like the wii.

if you wanted to say they had similar ammounts of lag. you should have thought better before you posted it.

the 360 online play is no were similar to the wii's online play

your going to get this response. becuase almost everyone one knows the xbl has better online play than the wii

from what i have played the wii has more lag than xbl

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]

What planet are you from?

Jandurin

How'd you know?

All online games lag. It is just how much you perceive that lag that makes all the difference. The games that usually lag (IMO) are the graphic intensive ones (like GEOW) and ones with poor net coding or no regional filters built into them.

As far as Wii speak I think my daughter uses that in Animal Crossing with her friends but isn't that limited to only a few games? It would be difficult to comunicate in an intensive online match via an open mic (not a face/head mounted system). I think it boils down to a few things...the Wii is not going after the hardcore online gamer (which it sounds like you may be). They are going after a casual market that they have taylored their online for. If you ever upgrade and get COD MW2 for a PS3 or 360 let me know and I will send you my online tags and we can get in some matches together.

All online games lag. It is just how much you perceive that lag that makes all the difference. The games that usually lag (IMO) are the graphic intensive ones (like GEOW) and ones with poor net coding or no regional filters built into them.

As far as Wii speak I think my daughter uses that in Animal Crossing with her friends but isn't that limited to only a few games? It would be difficult to comunicate in an intensive online match via an open mic (not a face/head mounted system). I think it boils down to a few things...the Wii is not going after the hardcore online gamer (which it sounds like you may be). They are going after a casual market that they have taylored their online for. If you ever upgrade and get COD MW2 for a PS3 or 360 let me know and I will send you my online tags and we can get in some matches together.

T_0_D

I got a PS3 as well so if I get it, I will let you know.

but the wii online is better becuz we dont need wires but we need wifi

but the wii online is better becuz we dont need wires but we need wifi

louisfoxton

how does built in wifi make the wii's online better

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Wow this thread has alot of posts. I own all three consoles, and the 360 has the best online features by far. Not really sure why people are trying to say otherwise. Thread is fail.

Maybe because this thread isn't about the online "FEATURES", it's about the online "PLAY" making You = Fail

4 & 5. Basically 4 & 5 can be added with a simpleupdate.

nini200

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Wow this thread has alot of posts. I own all three consoles, and the 360 has the best online features by far. Not really sure why people are trying to say otherwise. Thread is fail.

h575309

Maybe because this thread isn't about the online "FEATURES", it's about the online "PLAY" making You = Fail

so right

the only problem i have had is with battlefield and connection issues. besides that i have notice no lag.

if you want to talk about lag go play Battlefield heros .

Actually I'm not even sure if Wii games support updates from the Internet...do any Wii games do that?

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I lag on PSN also. SO does that mean the PS3's online is the same a the Wii'?

nini200

No, but it does mean that theOnline PLAY is. All of them have lag. How many times am I going to have to write this before people understand what this thread clearly states in the title?

Does wii have voice chat?Deihmos

Wii Speak.

And I'd rather not have voice chat because really, who wants to listen to some eleven year old screaming?

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]online = lag always no way around it there is always some level of lagSolid_Tango

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Does wii have voice chat?Crazyguy105

Wii Speak.

And I'd rather not have voice chat because really, who wants to listen to some eleven year old screaming?

yeah its not really a positive feature imo.

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Does wii have voice chat?DaBrainz

Wii Speak.

And I'd rather not have voice chat because really, who wants to listen to some eleven year old screaming?

yeah its not really a positive feature imo.

Are you serious? How do you coordinate in team-based games? Or socialize with friends that you're playing with?

Teufelhuhn