$399 PC to take on the PlayStation 4

I'm sure there were topics like this already, but I want to take this one further and use it for future reference.

So, rules are simple, 399USD, 399EUR or 349GBP to build a PC.
It needs to be a complete tower plus keyboard and mouse, everything expect a monitor, because so often I see users coming up with these magical PCs as cheap as peanuts but its actually just CPU&GPU and maybe some RAM.

For this one you'll need the COMPLETE tower, that means Mother Board, CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD, Optical Drive (should be BluRay but I'll take a DVD one) PSU, Cooling, and so on and so forth, in short, all the bells and whistles because that's what you get from the PlayStation 4, it's a complete unit that only needs plugging to a TV (ence I'm leaving out the PC monitor from the list) and that's it.

So, $399 to build it, go, and lets see how long that PC lasts in the gaming world.

You'll also have to pay for the Operating System, sice you're buying that with the PS4 as well.

It's possible I think. But what does it matter? You will still not be able to play console exclusives.

You won't play games like the last of us on a pc, if you're pc only, you're missing out...on almost everything.

You'll also have to pay for the Operating System, sice you're buying that with the PS4 as well.

lx_theo

It's possible I think. But what does it matter? You will still not be able to play console exclusives.

You won't play games like the last of us on a pc, if you're pc only, you're missing out...on almost everything.

Suppaman100

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

Kane04

that doesn't answer the question.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

Kane04

$399 PC now so you can play games today at mediumish settings and progressively lower them throughout the lifespan of the PS4. 

If you're building a PC just to have graphics a little above the level of a console. Save yourself a massive headache and buy a console or drop the money on a real PC.

PC gaming isn't cheap to start off. Don't let delusional fanboys or over sensationalized articles by PC oriented websites fool you. If you want a solid gaming PC that will play the latest games you gotta spend some money up front and upgrade at least the GPU every 2-3 years. 

It's not insanely expensive ($1200 for a brand new PC with a monitor, OS, keyboard, and mouse is not asking much) and you're going to get a much better deal on video games as well as a much larger library. There is also a lot of benefits of having a nice PC as well. Software packages, internet, general productivity, stuff like that all done on a PC and having a really powerful PC with a nice monitor is a great way to do all of that stuff.

Consoles compliment a PC for a gamer. A console cannot replace a PC.

I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.Shottayouth13-

$399 PC now so you can play games today at mediumish settings and progressively lower them throughout the lifespan of the PS4. 

If you're building a PC just to have graphics a little above the level of a console. Save yourself a massive headache and buy a console or drop the money on a real PC.

PC gaming isn't cheap to start off. Don't let delusional fanboys or over sensationalized articles by PC oriented websites fool you. If you want a solid gaming PC that will play the latest games you gotta spend some money up front and upgrade at least the GPU every 2-3 years. 

It's not insanely expensive ($1200 for a brand new PC with a monitor, OS, keyboard, and mouse is not asking much) and you're going to get a much better deal on video games as well as a much larger library. There is also a lot of benefits of having a nice PC as well. Software packages, internet, general productivity, stuff like that all done on a PC and having a really powerful PC with a nice monitor is a great way to do all of that stuff.

Consoles compliment a PC for a gamer. A console cannot replace a PC.

Wasdie

The way I see it is...

Pay a high price for the system(PC) and save loads of ££ on the games.

or

Pay a low price for the system(CONSOLE) and spend loads of ££ on the games. 

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]

It's possible I think. But what does it matter? You will still not be able to play console exclusives.

You won't play games like the last of us on a pc, if you're pc only, you're missing out...on almost everything.

CaseyWegner

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

sounds like an awful idea

Why cheap out on the PC? Sure it will rival the visuals now but in a couple years the PS4 will get better looking while that PC will have to be upgraded and will start to look worse unless you do so.

If you're gonna PC game spend the money and do it right. It's costly to invest in but you get what you pay for, if the price seems too high then maybe PC gaming isn't for you, I don't JUST game on my PC so the price is a non issue for me

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]

It's possible I think. But what does it matter? You will still not be able to play console exclusives.

You won't play games like the last of us on a pc, if you're pc only, you're missing out...on almost everything.

Suppaman100

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

watson, i'm referring to the last gen ALONE.

where did i say you're not missing out on any console only games? :|

I'll never understand the logic behind "hey guise let's try to build a PC for $400 and say how it's better than PS4!!!" You can't, and you really wouldn't want to. The point of building a gaming PC is to put as much power into that thing as you can -- at a premium cost -- and future-proof the hell out of it. You might be able to build a PC that can run next-gen games on high at $500, but you will be spending even more money over time upgrading each and every component to keep up. If you're going to build a gaming PC, build it right and realize that you're not going to get it cheaply. It's expensive, but it pays off over time.

Whats the point? PS4 eats all $400 PC's lol

youll need like a 900-1000 dollar rig to take on the PS4, and even then the PS4 is a better buy with better performancexboxiphoneps3

proof? source? benchmarks?

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.lx_theo

$399 PC now so you can play games today at mediumish settings and progressively lower them throughout the lifespan of the PS4. 

If you're building a PC just to have graphics a little above the level of a console. Save yourself a massive headache and buy a console or drop the money on a real PC.

PC gaming isn't cheap to start off. Don't let delusional fanboys or over sensationalized articles by PC oriented websites fool you. If you want a solid gaming PC that will play the latest games you gotta spend some money up front and upgrade at least the GPU every 2-3 years. 

It's not insanely expensive ($1200 for a brand new PC with a monitor, OS, keyboard, and mouse is not asking much) and you're going to get a much better deal on video games as well as a much larger library. There is also a lot of benefits of having a nice PC as well. Software packages, internet, general productivity, stuff like that all done on a PC and having a really powerful PC with a nice monitor is a great way to do all of that stuff.

Consoles compliment a PC for a gamer. A console cannot replace a PC.

Wasdie

In Argentina, consoles launch games cost 113$, a physical copy, and 108$, digital one (on PSN).

Furthermore, PSN+ is not supported, even though we pay twice as much for consoles and games. And PSN only allows 2 downloads of a purchased game.

So f*ck consoles. PC FTW.

PC are much less expensive than consoles in the long run, at least in Argentina. But from what I know, the same situation is true for all Latin America.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the pc has more high scoring exclusives than the 360, ps3, and wii combined. how is it missing out on almost everything?

CaseyWegner

watson, i'm referring to the last gen ALONE.

where did i say you're not missing out on any console only games? :|

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.Shottayouth13-

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.Shottayouth13-

If people were buying PS4 or Xbox One because they needed a solution to word processing, it would matter, but since you're on a gaming board focused on video games, those bonuses really don't matter to people. It's not that the argument isn't valid, it's that it doesn't really matter in a discussion about video games.

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.lx_theo

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] No sh*t Sherlock. Of course PC has more games than any console, they're making games for more than 20+ years. (another reason why you can't compare a console with a PC, it's ridiculous) But srsly if you're going to argue that you're not missing out on any console only games when you're PC only then... :lol: Strong delusions.Suppaman100

watson, i'm referring to the last gen ALONE.

where did i say you're not missing out on any console only games? :|

and that somehow = almost everything?

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]I can't use any of the Adobe suite on a PS4. Contrary to popular System War's belief, there's actually more to do on a PC than just gaming.Kane04

I do a lot of work that involves graphic design, animation and web development, none of which I can do on a PS4. :|

There's more to life than playing games.

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Which is irrelevant to the argument.LordOfPoms

If people were buying PS4 or Xbox One because they needed a solution to word processing, it would matter, but since you're on a gaming board focused on video games, those bonuses really don't matter to people. It's not that the argument isn't valid, it's that it doesn't really matter in a discussion about video games.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]youll need like a 900-1000 dollar rig to take on the PS4, and even then the PS4 is a better buy with better performancelostrib

proof? source? benchmarks?

not possible... it will easely cost over 800 - 1000 bucks. My PC can't play Next gen games at the same rate as next gen consoles properly and it cost me 750 dollars because it's not only the motherboard processor and graphics card... i had to buy a monitor, speakers a case a hardrive the memory the power supply mouse keyboard wireless adaptor and while a lot of people don't consider it.. i also had to buy the desk and chair because i didn't have one before. Now.. do i regret it ? Hell no! Pc over consoles <3 

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

watson, i'm referring to the last gen ALONE.

where did i say you're not missing out on any console only games? :|

CaseyWegner

and that somehow = almost everything?

Good point TC, entry level PC's at 400$ can't match a PS4. But the PS4 wont ever pass my 1150$ machine throughout its entire lifespan in terms of graphics and performance.. (1400$ if you include screen)

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] U srs? You said and I quote: "... how is it missing out on almost everything?" referring to the PC. On which I answered it missed out on A LOT OF games that are only on consoles.Suppaman100

and that somehow = almost everything?

[QUOTE="Kane04"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Which is irrelevant to the argument.Shottayouth13-

I do a lot of work that involves graphic design, animation and web development, none of which I can do on a PS4. :|

There's more to life than playing games.

You can develop pretty much anything on PC including games, PCs are about so much more that can never be achieved with a games console. You get MUCH more for your money when you buy a PC, you arent limited to just gaming but many features of the PC platform make gaming so much better on it.

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] But the PC is not just a gaming system, and it will never be. There's no PC that can play only games and do nothing else. You're asking for an impossible scenario. Shottayouth13-

dont' argue with the person... PC's cost more than consoles because they have multi use while the console can only be an entertainment system to play games or watch something. The Pc can do all of that and then some. While to some people it's not worth it if you make good use of the PC is very much well worth more than the money you put in.

You can develop pretty much anything on PC including games, PCs are about so much more that can never be achieved with a games console. You get MUCH more for your money when you buy a PC, you arent limited to just gaming but many features of the PC platform make gaming so much better on it.

pelvist

You don't need the highest end PC to enjoy great games. You just need one that is capable enough and you will be fine. Going all-in on the high end isn't a bad idea though.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and that somehow = almost everything?

LordOfPoms

I wasn´t missing on anything. Sony exclusives are overrated crap. Played Uncharted 2 yeasterday. Stopped after 20 min because it was f*cking boring. In the end, came back to playing Psyconauts, a game with a real gameplay. 

Tried Final Fantasy 13. What a crap game. I mean,seriously, the game is a f*cking one single corridor you run through fighting mosters with the same powers over and over again and watching cinematics at checkpoints.

Today will be playing the Last of Us. Certainly will be disappointed again.

Sony exclusives are for noobs, people who have never played games with a real gameplay.

[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]

[QUOTE="Kane04"] Exactly, I spend easily several times more money in PC gaming hardware than console gaming hardware, since I keep earing its not more expensive I'm surely doing something wrong. All I know is pressed again a wall the "master race" only argument is "its not just for gaming"... I still have a working desktop that i bought in 1999, P3, 128MB RAM, 8GB HDD that can surf the net just fine. Even something that can handle Photoshop or video editing DOESN'T need to be a gaming PC, a gaming PC is for GAMES, because how many people here are actual architects that do "need " a gaming PC power to do some actual work? So I subscribe to the same opinion that a PC doing more than games in a comparison with a console is and invalid counter argument.lx_theo

I do a lot of work that involves graphic design, animation and web development, none of which I can do on a PS4. :|

There's more to life than playing games.

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"] Let's be honest here, PC only gamers are missing out on a lot of games. Look at this gen, how many (good, AA+) games are console only, probably more than a 100. Like I said, if you're saying PC only gamers aren't missing out at all,... well that's just delusional.jhonMalcovich

I wasn´t misssing anything. Sony exclusives are overrated crap. Played Uncharted 2 yeasterday. Stopped after 20 min because it was f*cking boring. In the end, came back to playing Psyconauts, a game with a real gameplay. 

Tryed Final Fantasy 13. What a crap game. I mean,seriously, the game is a f*cking one single corridor you run through fighting mosters with the same powers over and over again and watching cinematics at checkpoints.

Today will play the Last of Us. Certainly will be disappointed again.