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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Well, it seems the initial reports were correct... 3D gaming is indeed coming to the PS3.

If you remember, there were reports about it earlier this year, when Sony showcased 3D demoes of GT5 Prologue at GDC.

Well, now we have reports, and Sony internal memoes that have indeed confirmed 3D gaming coming to the system.

What do you guys think about the development??? Awesome stuff, huh??? :D

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#2 NoobisMaxcimus
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If it isn't half-assed, it might be awesome.

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#3 spinecaton
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It doesn't say whether or not any TV will work, might have to get a 3D capable TV to have this work properly. Will wait for more information before being excited about it.

Edit: Kotaku states that you will need a 3D television, count me out I am not buying a TV again anytime soon :P

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#4 Adrian_Cloud
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Whatever happened to that whole Blu-Ray movie + Game deal sony was going to offer. I don't see this whole 3D thing really being succesful, Home is a failure and Six Axis is pretty much useless. However im optimistic about this because it would be awesome to have this interact with the Eyetoy.
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#5 finalstar2007
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Yup as always they rock :).. this should be something cool

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#6 dragonfly110
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I wont care as long as its optional, if it isnt Ill be mad, 3D things (you know what I mean, like popping out of TV 3d) give me a headache.

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#7 Darthmatt
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It may sound like a gimick now, but in five years every 3D movie that is in theaters now will be re-released on Blu-ray 3D. The studios see this as a potential cash cow since the market could also support converting older movies into 3D. Jurasic Park 3D anyone? Studios are really starting to get on the 3D train, and its only a matter of time before they start looking for other ways to cash in on it. Because a three week theater run for a 3D movies isn't exactly generating a great revenue stream at the moment.

The live 3D broadcast is also potentially possible through this new single lens 3D camera sony unveild last month. It can film at 240hz so when it splits the left and right channel it will display both eyes at 120hz in order to reduce flicker between the two channels. This is why the new sony TVs are going 240hz instead of 120hz.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200910/09-117E/

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Just saw Christmas Carol in 3D down at the theater a few days ago. The glasses/picture made my eyes focus weird for the first 20-30min, after that the weight of the glasses and lack of coverage(reflection off inside of glasses) pretty much reminded me why "3D" sucks and causes people to be in pain.

It would have taken off on PC if it was any good. This is just a gimmick.

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#9 EmperorSupreme
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Finally! Good 3D technology has been around for some time now. I'd love to see it become mainstream. You can count me in :)
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#10 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Yawn. I'm a cow, but this is the pinnacle of desperation.
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#11 monson21502
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meh, natal for the win. unless sony makes cheaper 3D screens that might make 3d worth watching
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Just saw Christmas Carol in 3D down at the theater a few days ago. The glasses/picture made my eyes focus weird for the first 20-30min, after that the weight of the glasses and lack of coverage(reflection off inside of glasses) pretty much reminded me why "3D" sucks and causes people to be in pain.

It would have taken off on PC if it was any good. This is just a gimmick.

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That's because those glasses are throw away items, I imagine at home comfort wouldn't be as much of an issue. As far as PC it didn't take off because at the time you needed special software, a high end video card and the glasses themselves which were very expensive back then. I won a setup at a tech show and it was awesome, but I can see why it didn't become mainstream, just too expensive.
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great, one more thing to hype as the greatest thing since sliced bread then never get supported again just like the sixaxis... btw do they even make any games that support sixaxis anymore?

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great, one more thing to hype as the greatest thing since sliced bread then never get supported again just like the sixaxis... btw do they even make any games that support sixaxis anymore?

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Except all the major motion picture studios are pushing hard for 3D films. And next they want to figure out how to maximize proffits from those films, which is getting them into the home.

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#15 lhughey
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chances are, if it can be done on the PS3, it can be done on the 360. The only problem is that it will probably require you to get a 120hz tv to view it. Also, games really need to be made with 3d in mind to really get the benefit of it. But i'll reserve judgements until i see it. Hopefully it works better than Nvidia's 3d glasses thing, but i doubt it as the Nvidia solution probably has more hardware ties than the PS3.
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I think it's a waste of time. You need a ridiculously expensive TV for this to work, quite a lot of people still aren't HD ready, it's gonna be at least 3 years before more than like 200 people have 3D TV's. As for using 3D, I think 3D is great, and could work in a lot of games to add atmosphere, horror games for example. But it could also ruin some games, anyone who's seen a 3D movie knows that when something flies out of the screen you sometimes involuntarily flinch, or jump a little, which, if overused could become irritating and make you stop playing.
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

great, one more thing to hype as the greatest thing since sliced bread then never get supported again just like the sixaxis... btw do they even make any games that support sixaxis anymore?

Darthmatt

Except all the major motion picture studios are pushing hard for 3D films. And next they want to figure out how to maximize proffits from those films, which is getting them into the home.

well there is hype and there is reality and if you want to look at the history of hype and glean a lesson from whats actually happened it's pretty easy to see this is a load of bs that may get implemented a few years down the road if at all

then even if it does happen it has a pretty good chance to be nothing but fail....

see heres the problem with sw, i can put relevent examples in front of you all day just like i did with sixaxis but we don't do logical here we do

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I think it's a waste of time. You need a ridiculously expensive TV for this to work, quite a lot of people still aren't HD ready, it's gonna be at least 3 years before more than like 200 people have 3D TV's. As for using 3D, I think 3D is great, and could work in a lot of games to add atmosphere, horror games for example. But it could also ruin some games, anyone who's seen a 3D movie knows that when something flies out of the screen you sometimes involuntarily flinch, or jump a little, which, if overused could become irritating and make you stop playing.bobbetybob
Exactly what I was thinking.

ITHOUGHT IT ALREADY DID 4-D!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It has been delayed since the launch of the PS3.
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Just saw Christmas Carol in 3D down at the theater a few days ago. The glasses/picture made my eyes focus weird for the first 20-30min, after that the weight of the glasses and lack of coverage(reflection off inside of glasses) pretty much reminded me why "3D" sucks and causes people to be in pain.

It would have taken off on PC if it was any good. This is just a gimmick.

We aren't talking about cheap 3D glasses here but about new TVs being able to display 3D images.
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Just saw Christmas Carol in 3D down at the theater a few days ago. The glasses/picture made my eyes focus weird for the first 20-30min, after that the weight of the glasses and lack of coverage(reflection off inside of glasses) pretty much reminded me why "3D" sucks and causes people to be in pain.

It would have taken off on PC if it was any good. This is just a gimmick.

EmperorSupreme

That's because those glasses are throw away items, I imagine at home comfort wouldn't be as much of an issue. As far as PC it didn't take off because at the time you needed special software, a high end video card and the glasses themselves which were very expensive back then. I won a setup at a tech show and it was awesome, but I can see why it didn't become mainstream, just too expensive.

I also saw Shrek 4D at Universal Studios and 7th Portal at Paramount and both of those used regular red/blue glasses and offered a much better experience than the Disney 3D movie, which used polarized glasses.

My guess is that unless you have a special curved screen, and 4 projectors(two for each eye) like Shrek 4D, the results will be only slightly impressive.

There were some parts in Christmas Carol that had truly amazing clarity and depth of field like the scene with Ghost of Christmas Present, and when Bob comes home with tiny Tim, but the rest was literally painful.

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imagine silent hill in 3D :o
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Just saw Christmas Carol in 3D down at the theater a few days ago. The glasses/picture made my eyes focus weird for the first 20-30min, after that the weight of the glasses and lack of coverage(reflection off inside of glasses) pretty much reminded me why "3D" sucks and causes people to be in pain.

It would have taken off on PC if it was any good. This is just a gimmick.

gamecubepad

That's because those glasses are throw away items, I imagine at home comfort wouldn't be as much of an issue. As far as PC it didn't take off because at the time you needed special software, a high end video card and the glasses themselves which were very expensive back then. I won a setup at a tech show and it was awesome, but I can see why it didn't become mainstream, just too expensive.

I also saw Shrek 4D at Universal Studios and 7th Portal at Paramount and both of those used regular red/blue glasses and offered a much better experience than the Disney 3D movie, which used polarized glasses.

My guess is that unless you have a special curved screen, and 4 projectors(two for each eye) like Shrek 4D, the results will be only slightly impressive.

There were some parts in Christmas Carol that had truly amazing clarity and depth of field like the scene with Ghost of Christmas Present, and when Bob comes home with tiny Tim, but the rest was literally painful.

That's weird, because my experiences are the exact opposite of yours. Polarized is great and I have no problem watching a full movie with them, sure they could make the glasses more comfortable, and they probably will if you're buying a $2500 TV for 3D. But red and blue is complete crap, for one thing you can't judge most colours, everything is just a sort of browny green colour which is a massive downside, the glasses are even worse than the polzarized ones since they're usually made of cardboard and if you watch for too long your eyes start to hurt because everything gets a bit blurred and crossed over.
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imagine silent hill in 3D :ocoupe_delacoupe
Or RE4 OR DEAD SPACE!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
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[QUOTE="coupe_delacoupe"]imagine silent hill in 3D :okhoofia_pika
Or RE4 OR DEAD SPACE!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

on a theatre size screen would be too real. *and holding the sony wand as a melee weapon
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Id love to see Kilzone2 in 3d woooh :o

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Yawn. I'm a cow, but this is the pinnacle of desperation.khoofia_pika
you aren't cow enough. the wand+ 3D gaming could be a killer combo, but i would rather wait to see wz my eyes.
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]That's because those glasses are throw away items, I imagine at home comfort wouldn't be as much of an issue. As far as PC it didn't take off because at the time you needed special software, a high end video card and the glasses themselves which were very expensive back then. I won a setup at a tech show and it was awesome, but I can see why it didn't become mainstream, just too expensive. bobbetybob

I also saw Shrek 4D at Universal Studios and 7th Portal at Paramount and both of those used regular red/blue glasses and offered a much better experience than the Disney 3D movie, which used polarized glasses.

My guess is that unless you have a special curved screen, and 4 projectors(two for each eye) like Shrek 4D, the results will be only slightly impressive.

There were some parts in Christmas Carol that had truly amazing clarity and depth of field like the scene with Ghost of Christmas Present, and when Bob comes home with tiny Tim, but the rest was literally painful.

That's weird, because my experiences are the exact opposite of yours. Polarized is great and I have no problem watching a full movie with them, sure they could make the glasses more comfortable, and they probably will if you're buying a $2500 TV for 3D. But red and blue is complete crap, for one thing you can't judge most colours, everything is just a sort of browny green colour which is a massive downside, the glasses are even worse than the polzarized ones since they're usually made of cardboard and if you watch for too long your eyes start to hurt because everything gets a bit blurred and crossed over.

I think it's because of the special screen and projector system that Shrek 4D and 7th Portal use. I think they both use 4 projectors and a curved screen, as opposed to Christmas Carol, which used 2 projectors and a flat screen.

With the correct setup 3D is amazing, but people can't afford 4 projectors and a curved screen, let alone convert the source material to work on such a system. Someday, but not on PS3.

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#29 kramer_inc
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I think I will wait to see it before I start to bash it then possibly have to eat my own words. :)

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#30 fabz_95
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I wont care as long as its optional, if it isnt Ill be mad, 3D things (you know what I mean, like popping out of TV 3d) give me a headache.

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Agreed. If they can make it work, it'd be pretty cool.
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requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR.
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3D requires high refresh rates to avoid heavy flickering and migraines, it's the reason there was a decline in 3D gaming on PC in the transition from CRTs to 60hz flat screens.

Whatever Sony intends don't be surprised if it is not supported on every screen out there, that and they have to get the performance to split the image from somewhere.

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Yawn. I'm a cow, but this is the pinnacle of desperation.2mrw
you aren't cow enough. the wand+ 3D gaming could be a killer combo, but i would rather wait to see wz my eyes.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOW, I'm cow enough. :P The Wand's good enough, but 3D? Ugh..... it reminds me of Virtual Boy.... which just makes me feel sick.... :|
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Interesting idea, but like many things Sony seems to be doing I think they are getting a little ahead of themselves, why not use this tech for the PS4 a few years down the road when everyone will have a TV with a high enough refresh rate to display?
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It doesn't say whether or not any TV will work, might have to get a 3D capable TV to have this work properly. Will wait for more information before being excited about it.

Edit: Kotaku states that you will need a 3D television, count me out I am not buying a TV again anytime soon :P

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thats my exact thoughts. they keep upgrading tv's nowadays like they do with cell phones, except that the average person isnt gonna buy a new tv every 2 years....

no thanks

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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I also saw Shrek 4D at Universal Studios and 7th Portal at Paramount and both of those used regular red/blue glasses and offered a much better experience than the Disney 3D movie, which used polarized glasses.

My guess is that unless you have a special curved screen, and 4 projectors(two for each eye) like Shrek 4D, the results will be only slightly impressive.

There were some parts in Christmas Carol that had truly amazing clarity and depth of field like the scene with Ghost of Christmas Present, and when Bob comes home with tiny Tim, but the rest was literally painful.

gamecubepad

That's weird, because my experiences are the exact opposite of yours. Polarized is great and I have no problem watching a full movie with them, sure they could make the glasses more comfortable, and they probably will if you're buying a $2500 TV for 3D. But red and blue is complete crap, for one thing you can't judge most colours, everything is just a sort of browny green colour which is a massive downside, the glasses are even worse than the polzarized ones since they're usually made of cardboard and if you watch for too long your eyes start to hurt because everything gets a bit blurred and crossed over.

I think it's because of the special screen and projector system that Shrek 4D and 7th Portal use. I think they both use 4 projectors and a curved screen, as opposed to Christmas Carol, which used 2 projectors and a flat screen.

With the correct setup 3D is amazing, but people can't afford 4 projectors and a curved screen, let alone convert the source material to work on such a system. Someday, but not on PS3.

I'm surprised the big places that have things like Shrek 4D and whatever else don't have polarized glasses yet, would be the perfect mix. And I agree about not having it on PS3, mainly because it uses a lot of power, which means you can only make simple 3D games anyway, thus negating the whole point of 3D, which is to make you feel more immersed. If that's not happening it's basically the most expensive gimmick you'll ever buy.
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#37 skektek
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It doesn't say whether or not any TV will work, might have to get a 3D capable TV to have this work properly. Will wait for more information before being excited about it.

Edit: Kotaku states that you will need a 3D television, count me out I am not buying a TV again anytime soon :P

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You need a TV with a refresh rate of 120hz or better. Most LCD TVs sold thus far are 60hz. New higher end TVs are 120hz and above.

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

great, one more thing to hype as the greatest thing since sliced bread then never get supported again just like the sixaxis... btw do they even make any games that support sixaxis anymore?

Riverwolf007

Except all the major motion picture studios are pushing hard for 3D films. And next they want to figure out how to maximize proffits from those films, which is getting them into the home.

well there is hype and there is reality and if you want to look at the history of hype and glean a lesson from whats actually happened it's pretty easy to see this is a load of bs that may get implemented a few years down the road if at all

then even if it does happen it has a pretty good chance to be nothing but fail....

see heres the problem with sw, i can put relevent examples in front of you all day just like i did with sixaxis but we don't do logical here we do

"OMG!!! PONIES!!!"

It does take years for this technology to become affordable and in every home. Just like CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray, it was expensive at first and took a few years to get out to a mass audience. You talk of logic, but you fail to see things from a marketing perspective. As I said, studios are all putting a lot of money into developing 3D content. I work on 3D stereo conversion projects and things are only getting busier. A typical 3D film gets about a four week run in theaters before its gone for good. At that point, the investment the studio made producing that 3D film can no longer generate revenue. Which begs the question, why do a 3D movie in the first place? Well, because its been shown that it sells tickets in a time when movie going audiences are dwindling. Imagine all those 3D releases now available for the home, and couple that with the potential for older movies to be converted into 3D. The studios see a potential gold mine in the home 3D movie market and sony, which owns Columbia and Tri-star will yet again have a leg up over the competition.

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#39 EmperorSupreme
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requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR. Ontain
I'm guessing I can't afford it day one either, but a year or two down the road it's very likely. It has to start somewhere though. That's pretty much how all technology works. Today's $600 gpu for a computer is tomorrows $150 gpu for the mainstream, but without that $600 gpu we would never get to the $150 gpu.
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#40 z4twenny
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they still haven't stated if the 3d gaming is going to require a special tv or jut one that runs at 120 hz, lots of tv's are running 120+hz now so that wouldn't be a big deal. but if you have to buy a special tv for it, then its pretty much money wasted. i'm not trading in my tv for a special one that costs twice as much because sony made it.

that being said, if its applicable to all 120 hz tv's, then you include the wand and the eyetoy, you basically have your ps3 reading your movements into the game and displaying the game in 3d, it's about a step away from virtual reality.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR. EmperorSupreme
I'm guessing I can't afford it day one either, but a year or two down the road it's very likely. It has to start somewhere though. That's pretty much how all technology works. Today's $600 gpu for a computer is tomorrows $150 gpu for the mainstream, but without that $600 gpu we would never get to the $150 gpu.

120hz "3D Ready" TVs aren't that expensive.

Toshiba 40" 1080p 120hz $999

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#42 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Ontain"]requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR. skektek

I'm guessing I can't afford it day one either, but a year or two down the road it's very likely. It has to start somewhere though. That's pretty much how all technology works. Today's $600 gpu for a computer is tomorrows $150 gpu for the mainstream, but without that $600 gpu we would never get to the $150 gpu.

120hz "3D Ready" TVs aren't that expensive.

Toshiba 40" 1080p 120hz $999

yeah, but its a toshiba :|

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they still haven't stated if the 3d gaming is going to require a special tv or jut one that runs at 120 hz, lots of tv's are running 120+hz now so that wouldn't be a big deal. but if you have to buy a special tv for it, then its pretty much money wasted. i'm not trading in my tv for a special one that costs twice as much because sony made it.

that being said, if its applicable to all 120 hz tv's, then you include the wand and the eyetoy, you basically have your ps3 reading your movements into the game and displaying the game in 3d, it's about a step away from virtual reality.

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I beleive it only works on a 3D ready TV. Sony is making thier 240hz sets so the left and right eye can be split and still display at 120hz per eye. So you don't notice the flicker as the left and right eye frames trun on and off.

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#44 skektek
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] I'm guessing I can't afford it day one either, but a year or two down the road it's very likely. It has to start somewhere though. That's pretty much how all technology works. Today's $600 gpu for a computer is tomorrows $150 gpu for the mainstream, but without that $600 gpu we would never get to the $150 gpu.ogvampire

120hz "3D Ready" TVs aren't that expensive.

Toshiba 40" 1080p 120hz $999

yeah, but its a toshiba :|

That is just one example.

What is wrong with Toshiba? They make pretty good TVs.

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#45 Jynxzor
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120hz Sony TV's don't cost much more either alot of there 120hz modles are actually on sale to make room for their new 240hz TVs.
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#46 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="skektek"]

120hz "3D Ready" TVs aren't that expensive.

Toshiba 40" 1080p 120hz $999

skektek

yeah, but its a toshiba :|

That is just one example.

What is wrong with Toshiba? They make pretty good TVs.

they are decent, i dont know about 'pretty good'

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#47 donalbane
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Great, now I have to buy a new TV... I'm a sucker for 3D. Most Samsung DLPs have the feature (120hz).
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#48 2mrw
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Interesting idea, but like many things Sony seems to be doing I think they are getting a little ahead of themselves, why not use this tech for the PS4 a few years down the road when everyone will have a TV with a high enough refresh rate to display?Jynxzor
the PS3 needs all the help it can get, wz Natal on the way, Sony should be prepared wz an atomic bomb on its side, i just hope that could work and it would be for resonable price
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#49 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I like the sound of it, i'm up for the glasses until 3d tvs become cheap, i mean there was a tv show about the queen in 3d the other day so it could really become something for the future, though i doubt it would take off too much this gen it would be good to have a system sorted out for next gen when this stuff could become mainstream. This plus OLED tvs = technology win
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#50 Cait__Sith
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I better not need a new TV for this, I have a Sony XBR4 120hz, andjust a couple weeks ago a Pioneer Elite Kuro.