I would do this if I had a 3d capable T.V.
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Sounds pretty interesting. I've two TV's, one 40" Sony Bravia, but it's only 60hz. I have a 50" Samsung Plasma 600hz. I'm not sure if either one will be able to take advantage of this feature, but it they can, I'm all for it.
[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]
This has to be the biggest waste of time and money for sony. Very few people will utilize this feature.
jherbach1222
true. But its nice to have the feature available if your willing to buy the glasses ect. Cant say 360 or wii does that :/ I have a feeling they will tout the whole 3D feature in their new ps3 ads.
3D will only take off if people dont have to buy a brand new TV for it. I'd be more likely to use 3D if I didnt have to buy a new TV.[QUOTE="jherbach1222"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]
This has to be the biggest waste of time and money for sony. Very few people will utilize this feature.
carljohnson3456
true. But its nice to have the feature available if your willing to buy the glasses ect. Cant say 360 or wii does that :/ I have a feeling they will tout the whole 3D feature in their new ps3 ads.
3D will only take off if people dont have to buy a brand new TV for it. I'd be more likely to use 3D if I didnt have to buy a new TV.as would I, If I knew about this earlier I would have got one bc I just upgraded my Tv sucks :(
[QUOTE="leperphiliac"]So what typr of 3d glasses would you need?donalbaneThe $200 kind.
I may sound like a noob, but can't they just make it possible to use the ones from the movies? Not the red and blue ones, the new Real 3D ones from like Avatar and UP.
[QUOTE="ccagracing"]also movies are a guided experience so they can get the perfect shot for each environment, in games the results can be unpredictable. like recently in the uk a football match was shown in 3d in select bars, and because it's live and uncontrollable the results was hit and miss. i will start to care when tv's become 3d without glasses, 5-10 years off most likely. Thing is, there's another element of unpredictability right there: the location of the audience (and more importantly, their eyes). Most autostereoscopic sets lave limited viewing angles and usually have to slice the screen up like a lenticular display to pull off the trick.Im not sure about this 3D stuff at the moment. I watched Avatar in 3D and it was impressive, but look how much money that movie had spent on it and then take into account the Massive Screen, Surround Sound and perfectly accoustically setup room. I just think for the average household its a gimmick at the moment and this is regardless if its PS3, PC or Xbox doing it.
Mckenna1845
And some people need to look past the hype machine and realize that CES displays tend to hide some of the details, such as limited horizontal resolution and viewing angles (think lenticular 3D displays).Seems like some people dont realise that there are already 3dtv that dont need glasses and already working (Checkout CES) and set for release. so glassless 3dtvs are not 5-10 years away like someone said they are less than 2 years away. People calling it a gimmick need to remember 5 years ago people said 'HDTVs are a gimmick' and 'you will never need a Gigabyte of memory' now look HDTVs are in atleast 75% of household and A Gigbyte is now so easy to fill up that Terabytes are being introduced technology moves forward and doesnt stand still. 3D is going to like HD in 5 years where everyone has its. Just like those other 'gimmicks' I will be the first to say 'I told you so'. I remember those days as a kid when a MB was a lot of memory now it cant hold a 3 minute song.
viper-kid
The $200 kind.[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="leperphiliac"]So what typr of 3d glasses would you need?awssk8er716
I may sound like a noob, but can't they just make it possible to use the ones from the movies? Not the red and blue ones, the new Real 3D ones from like Avatar and UP.
Those are polarized glasses. They're not a bad technique but require some tricky tech to be usable with things like LCD monitors.Polarized glasses are passive tech and are usable with more than one viewer.I can't believe people are falling for this crap.Until they can find a way to do this without forcing you to wear glasses it's useless and incredibly stupid. What happens when you have more than one person over to watch stuff?
heretrix
[QUOTE="Tessellation"]enjoy paying $2000 to play 3D games.donalbaneIf you are buying a new TV anyway, why not spend an extra $200 to play in 3D? If it's not important to you, don't do it, but don't knock people who are interested in the idea. What's the point? Sounds to me like he mad he cant afford the tech to game in 3D. Some of the people in this thread are hilarious for bashing this. Maybe because it's Sony pushing it forward and not MS or Nintendo. I bet some of the same people were/are the ones who bashed HD tvs and blu rays when they came out. Look how that turned out.
[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]
This has to be the biggest waste of time and money for sony. Very few people will utilize this feature.
jherbach1222
true. But its nice to have the feature available if your willing to buy the glasses ect. Cant say 360 or wii does that :/ I have a feeling they will tout the whole 3D feature in their new ps3 ads.
It's pretty easy for any 3D chip to achieve. It's all a matter of changing the camera perspective. All it takes is the right software.[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]... yet again Sony wasting resources in development that 99% of the population will most likely never use, just like Playstation Home.. EndorphinMaster
They're good at that.
People should have figured that out the first ridiculous commericals they aired.. With the creepy baby..If you are buying a new TV anyway, why not spend an extra $200 to play in 3D? If it's not important to you, don't do it, but don't knock people who are interested in the idea. What's the point? Sounds to me like he mad he cant afford the tech to game in 3D. Some of the people in this thread are hilarious for bashing this. Maybe because it's Sony pushing it forward and not MS or Nintendo. I bet some of the same people were/are the ones who bashed HD tvs and blu rays when they came out. Look how that turned out.[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]enjoy paying $2000 to play 3D games.coltsfan4ever
Bluray still isn't the standard (DVD is still more widely used). And 3D gimmicks are alot different than HD.
I don't care who pushes 3D. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Magnavox, Panasonic. It still is an eyestrain and unappealing with alot of programs and movies. I would not want to watch movies in 3D for more than an hour let alone play a 40 hour game with glasses like that. You'd go blind.
Doesn't your tv have to be over 200hz to be able to utilize this? ihazfishsticksmy Shap Aqua does 240hz so bring it lol. And runs 5ms. 10,000 contrast and its three years old. Not bad huh?
[QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"]Doesn't your tv have to be over 200hz to be able to utilize this? caseypayne69my Shap Aqua does 240hz so bring it lol. And runs 5ms. 10,000 contrast and its three years old. Not bad huh?
check the manual. my samsung i purchased about 6 months ago has a 600 hz refresh rate, but its a subfield motion. im guessing yours probably is too (in which case it wont play 3d games)
yeah, i'm much more interested in what this NAT traversal is. maybe it will help me get to NAT 2!!!What the heck is all that other stuff? NAT traversal looks very interesting.
Zero_epyon
my Shap Aqua does 240hz so bring it lol. And runs 5ms. 10,000 contrast and its three years old. Not bad huh?[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"]Doesn't your tv have to be over 200hz to be able to utilize this? z4twenny
check the manual. my samsung i purchased about 6 months ago has a 600 hz refresh rate, but its a subfield motion. im guessing yours probably is too (in which case it wont play 3d games)
10 000:1 contrast ratio is horrid. that half of what my HDTV is and whenever there's a dark scene in a movie or TV show it's very noticeable.People act like 3D is a new thing in gaming. I was gaming in 3D in the 80's with Radracer!
Nothing beats some 3D rad racer with a powerglove.
Pixel-Pirate
I love the powerglove!
Its so bad!
Whats worse than a fanboy hyping a game?
A fanboy hyping a firmware update
So TC is a fanboy just because he's interested in something a console will be offering? You have a very broad definition of the word, buddy.Needed to play 3d.
1.A tv capable of 3d.
2.Glasses ranging from 100-200 dollars.
3.a new tv with the new 3d film on it so you don't need glasses. thousands of dollars.
4.Not be prone to getting headaches from 3d.
3d is a gimmick I yet again got another headache, Friends wanted to see 3d alice in wonderland so I relented and went to the 3d version as well not only did 3d ruin my movie going experience, I still have a headache from it last night....
People should learn to relax. 3D is going to be an option, not a necessity. What's wrong with options?
People should learn to relax. 3D is going to be an option, not a necessity. What's wrong with options?
KratosTwin
the problem is is that they are pushing it hard, tv makers, movies...ect what should have been an option that died away is now seemingly becoming a Necessity. and for people like me faux 3d will never be a viable option until it doesn't give us headaches, And nothing so far says its won't. red and blue gave me headaches, Polarized has given me headaches, Shutter glasses headaches, It stands to reason the new tv filters will give me headaches.
Whats funny about it is people actually think its 3d its not, Its faux 3d its an illusion its a combination of technqiues to trick your eyes into thinking some parts of the image are in the forground and some are not, But its an illusion there will never be any thing but faux 3d till we have true 3d till now its 3d images and world put up on a 2d screen, this simply tricks your eyes and brain, till I can walk into a room and move around an object in my 3rd dimensional space that is artificial then its not true 3d but faux 3d.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
People should learn to relax. 3D is going to be an option, not a necessity. What's wrong with options?
WilliamRLBaker
the problem is is that they are pushing it hard, tv makers, movies...ect what should have been an option that died away is now seemingly becoming a Necessity. and for people like me faux 3d will never be a viable option until it doesn't give us headaches, And nothing so far says its won't. red and blue gave me headaches, Polarized has given me headaches, Shutter glasses headaches, It stands to reason the new tv filters will give me headaches.
Whats funny about it is people actually think its 3d its not, Its faux 3d its an illusion its a combination of technqiues to trick your eyes into thinking some parts of the image are in the forground and some are not, But its an illusion there will never be any thing but faux 3d till we have true 3d till now its 3d images and world put up on a 2d screen, this simply tricks your eyes and brain, till I can walk into a room and move around an object in my 3rd dimensional space that is artificial then its not true 3d but faux 3d.
I am sorry about your headaches, seriously. I've watched movies in 3D such as Avatar and experienced no such thing.
I still don't see it as them forcing anyone to buy it or use it. It's just an option and also still very early and a long way from becoming mainstream.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
People should learn to relax. 3D is going to be an option, not a necessity. What's wrong with options?
KratosTwin
the problem is is that they are pushing it hard, tv makers, movies...ect what should have been an option that died away is now seemingly becoming a Necessity. and for people like me faux 3d will never be a viable option until it doesn't give us headaches, And nothing so far says its won't. red and blue gave me headaches, Polarized has given me headaches, Shutter glasses headaches, It stands to reason the new tv filters will give me headaches.
Whats funny about it is people actually think its 3d its not, Its faux 3d its an illusion its a combination of technqiues to trick your eyes into thinking some parts of the image are in the forground and some are not, But its an illusion there will never be any thing but faux 3d till we have true 3d till now its 3d images and world put up on a 2d screen, this simply tricks your eyes and brain, till I can walk into a room and move around an object in my 3rd dimensional space that is artificial then its not true 3d but faux 3d.
I am sorry about your headaches, seriously. I've watched movies in 3D such as Avatar and experienced no such thing.
I still don't see it as them forcing anyone to buy it or use it. It's just an option and also still very early and a long way from becoming mainstream.
and if it ever becomes mainstream and they dont fix the headache issues then people like me are screwed in the movie, and game arena. I'm firmly against Faux 3d and it alarms me that studios, and tv makers are pushing it as hard as they are.[QUOTE="KratosTwin"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
the problem is is that they are pushing it hard, tv makers, movies...ect what should have been an option that died away is now seemingly becoming a Necessity. and for people like me faux 3d will never be a viable option until it doesn't give us headaches, And nothing so far says its won't. red and blue gave me headaches, Polarized has given me headaches, Shutter glasses headaches, It stands to reason the new tv filters will give me headaches.
Whats funny about it is people actually think its 3d its not, Its faux 3d its an illusion its a combination of technqiues to trick your eyes into thinking some parts of the image are in the forground and some are not, But its an illusion there will never be any thing but faux 3d till we have true 3d till now its 3d images and world put up on a 2d screen, this simply tricks your eyes and brain, till I can walk into a room and move around an object in my 3rd dimensional space that is artificial then its not true 3d but faux 3d.
WilliamRLBaker
I am sorry about your headaches, seriously. I've watched movies in 3D such as Avatar and experienced no such thing.
I still don't see it as them forcing anyone to buy it or use it. It's just an option and also still very early and a long way from becoming mainstream.
and if it ever becomes mainstream and they dont fix the headache issues then people like me are screwed in the movie, and game arena. I'm firmly against Faux 3d and it alarms me that studios, and tv makers are pushing it as hard as they are.I think you will be fine since playing/watching non-3D will always remain an option as well even when or if it becomes mainstream.
I don't feel like running about and splashing 2k on a new TV thanks. Will this be factored into the PS3/360 price comparison? Seeing as just like Wifi, it's not needed and is an optional extra?
-Snooze-
Wifi is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play online. 3D TV's are not as necessary.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
I don't feel like running about and splashing 2k on a new TV thanks. Will this be factored into the PS3/360 price comparison? Seeing as just like Wifi, it's not needed and is an optional extra?
KratosTwin
Wifi is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play online. 3D TV's are not as necessary.
3D is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play in 3D. Wifi isn't needed.
See how that works? Think of it this way, if you want to play online, you can use ethernet, or wifi, if you want to game in 3D you need a 3D tv.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
I don't feel like running about and splashing 2k on a new TV thanks. Will this be factored into the PS3/360 price comparison? Seeing as just like Wifi, it's not needed and is an optional extra?
-Snooze-
Wifi is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play online. 3D TV's are not as necessary.
3D is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play in 3D. Wifi isn't needed.
See how that works? Think of it this way, if you want to play online, you can use ethernet, or wifi, if you want to game in 3D you need a 3D tv.
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game and watch TV without a 3D TV. For many homes wifi is a necessity to game onlinedepending on people's set-ups. Not everyone wants to buy a mile long ethernet cable to run in their home.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
Wifi is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play online. 3D TV's are not as necessary.
KratosTwin
3D is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play in 3D. Wifi isn't needed.
See how that works? Think of it this way, if you want to play online, you can use ethernet, or wifi, if you want to game in 3D you need a 3D tv.
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game and watch TV without a 3D TV. For many homes wifi is a necessity to game onlinedepending on people's set-ups. Not everyone wants to buy a mile long ethernet cable to run in their home.
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game online without wifi. For everyone who wants to game in 3D, you recquire compatible TV.
Fact is you CAN game online without wifi. You Can not game in 3D on the PS3 without the compatible TV.
They're either both included in comparisons, or neither
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
3D is something that is required for a lot of people and their homes if they want to play in 3D. Wifi isn't needed.
See how that works? Think of it this way, if you want to play online, you can use ethernet, or wifi, if you want to game in 3D you need a 3D tv.
-Snooze-
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game and watch TV without a 3D TV. For many homes wifi is a necessity to game onlinedepending on people's set-ups. Not everyone wants to buy a mile long ethernet cable to run in their home.
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game online without wifi. For everyone who wants to game in 3D, you recquire compatible TV.
Fact is you CAN game online without wifi. You Can not game in 3D on the PS3 without the compatible TV.
They're either both included in comparisons, or neither
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game and watch TV without a 3D TV. For many homes wifi is a necessity to game onlinedepending on people's set-ups. Not everyone wants to buy a mile long ethernet cable to run in their home.
KratosTwin
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game online without wifi. For everyone who wants to game in 3D, you recquire compatible TV.
Fact is you CAN game online without wifi. You Can not game in 3D on the PS3 without the compatible TV.
They're either both included in comparisons, or neither
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game online without wifi. For everyone who wants to game in 3D, you recquire compatible TV.
Fact is you CAN game online without wifi. You Can not game in 3D on the PS3 without the compatible TV.
They're either both included in comparisons, or neither
-Snooze-
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
The point is you don't have to game in 3D. Simple. Also wifi is a feature that has been fairly common in most electronic devices for quite some time now...it's not some far off technology that is unproven or unused. 3D is still far from reaching that point of mainstream use.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
KratosTwin
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
The point is you don't have to game in 3D. Simple. Also wifi is a feature that has been fairly common in most electronic devices for quite some time now...it's not some far off technology that is unproven or unused. 3D is still far from reaching that point of mainstream use.
By the same token you don't HAVE to game online with Wifi. Yes it's common nowadays ... on portable devices. Which is for obvious reasons.
Its inferior to a wired connection, why would i use an inferior method of getting online given the choice? Why would Cows then count it as being needed for online play?
3D isn't unproven or unused ... It's just not practical, and there is little demand. It's been around for .. well since i can remember.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
I think that is a bit of an extreme comparison. People can still game online without wifi. For everyone who wants to game in 3D, you recquire compatible TV.
Fact is you CAN game online without wifi. You Can not game in 3D on the PS3 without the compatible TV.
They're either both included in comparisons, or neither
-Snooze-
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
Also, I never said Wifi is necessary for everyone. I said it's necessary for a lot of people. 3D on the other hand is not necessary unless you want it to be.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
-Snooze-
The point is you don't have to game in 3D. Simple. Also wifi is a feature that has been fairly common in most electronic devices for quite some time now...it's not some far off technology that is unproven or unused. 3D is still far from reaching that point of mainstream use.
By the same token you don't HAVE to game online with Wifi. Yes it's common nowadays ... on portable devices. Which is for obvious reasons.
Its inferior to a wired connection, why would i use an inferior method of getting online given the choice? Why would Cows then count it as being needed for online play?
3D isn't unproven or unused ... It's just not practical, and there is little demand. It's been around for .. well since i can remember.
*sigh*
You don't HAVE to game online with Wifi but like I said for a lot of people it may be necessary depending on their homes set-up. I use Wifi for PS3 and 360 and have not suffered because of it.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
I think you're missing the point, but that's ok. Agree to disagree.
KratosTwin
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
Also, I never said Wifi is necessary for everyone. I said it's necessary for a lot of people. 3D on the other hand is not necessary unless you want it to be.
You said it was necessary for some people. Myrebuttal was 3D TV's are necessary for EVERYONE who wants to game online with the PS3. If Cows are going to tout it as an amazing feature, then Cows should also acknowledge the amazing price that it comes with.
I'm of course not calling you a Cow.
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
You're trying to say that because some people choose to use Wifi, it's necessary. However factually it is not. Simple.
Gaming in 3D on the PS3, to my knowledge requires a compatible TV. Simple.
-Snooze-
Also, I never said Wifi is necessary for everyone. I said it's necessary for a lot of people. 3D on the other hand is not necessary unless you want it to be.
You said it was necessary for some people. Myrebuttal was 3D TV's are necessary for EVERYONE who wants to game online with the PS3. If Cows are going to tout it as an amazing feature, then Cows should also acknowledge the amazing price that it comes with.
I'm of course not calling you a Cow.
I think we at least agree on the 3D tv part. I'm just saying I'll still be able to game on PS3 without a 3D tv. 3D at this point is not necessary for me, but it is an option for one day if I choose it to be.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
Also, I never said Wifi is necessary for everyone. I said it's necessary for a lot of people. 3D on the other hand is not necessary unless you want it to be.
KratosTwin
You said it was necessary for some people. Myrebuttal was 3D TV's are necessary for EVERYONE who wants to game online with the PS3. If Cows are going to tout it as an amazing feature, then Cows should also acknowledge the amazing price that it comes with.
I'm of course not calling you a Cow.
I think we at least agree on the 3D tv part. I'm just saying I'll still be able to game on PS3 without a 3D tv. 3D at this point is not necessary for me, but it is an option for one day if I choose it to be.
And everyone loves options:P
[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
You said it was necessary for some people. Myrebuttal was 3D TV's are necessary for EVERYONE who wants to game online with the PS3. If Cows are going to tout it as an amazing feature, then Cows should also acknowledge the amazing price that it comes with.
I'm of course not calling you a Cow.
-Snooze-
I think we at least agree on the 3D tv part. I'm just saying I'll still be able to game on PS3 without a 3D tv. 3D at this point is not necessary for me, but it is an option for one day if I choose it to be.
And everyone loves options:P
LOL good one. Unfortunately for me I had to take that option due to my home's set-up. I didn't pay $99.99 though.
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