50 reasons why the Xbox 360 is superior than the PS3

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

One problem - I also gave a list of PS3 advantages at the end, so I was fair.

I am not a fanboy.

AHUGECAT

This is actually quite hilarious now Your list consists of all of 4 points. That's obviously fair.

You do realise the Xbox 360 dosn't come with an HDMI either, right? And that for the most part playing music through the Xbox is unstable to say the least, right (It's the same on the PS3, neither handle music streaming very well)? If you were that bothered you could use an MP3 player, or mabye even actually just listen to music through a sound system. Really not an issue. With the quality of most of these points im susprised you havn't reached a 100. I'm sure you could saturate the list even more by making another 10 points about Halo 3 :lol:.

I am being as fair as possible.

Xbox 360 didn't have an HDMI chord til like last year and even then Microsoft doesn't have an HD disc like Sony. Sony is trying to promote it mor eand they don't even give you the right chords.

And lots of people play in-game music, it's a very popular feature.

And I can make 100 reasons why Halo 3 is the best game ever made... hmm.. when I think about it, I can...

If you say so.

You actually don't need HDMI to display HD as far as I know. I'm sure you can get 720p using a standard AV cable. On any account, the 2 pound (Lidl FTW) I paid for an HDMI cable is hardly a bitter loss. If both consoles are missing something, then they both share a common flaw. Nothing makes one or the other worse because, "They were actually promoting it." That means nothing. It dosn't affect the actual quality, hence it is not a point.

Tha dosn't make it all that useful. I try using it occasionally, but it often ends up with me being disconnected half way through a track. It's using up procesing time and memory, and that means it can lead to more crashes and freezes. It's better to play it through another system altogether.

You probably could, just don't make it as embarrasing as this list.

That's as serious as I am getting, I'm not going through another 40 or so of these.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

2. Too many confusing SKUs

6. The controller has no rumble... wait now it does!

7. It tries to rip off Microsoft with the multiple SKU idea

8. Sony tried to rip off Nintendo with SIXAXIS

9. HOME has been delayed to the point MS has their answer to HOME already out

I stopped at 10... just to show how your list is a buch nitpick fanboy crap.

Bebi_vegeta

2. It is true. First Sony has $499 and $599, then $499 and $599 with like 80GB and MotorStorm, then only one $499 then a $399 but this time no BC, and only 40GB then it has a $399 with 80GB and MotorStorm and then now it has a 160GB $499 with Uncharted and... at least Microsoft kept it to 3 SKUs.

6. It's true. Sony even lied about why they didn't have rumble. Rumble should've been standard.

7. Sony cannot think of an idea on their own.

8. Do you think Sony would've put in Sixaxis if it wasn't for Nintendo? Haha...

9. That is true. Home was supposed to come out October 2007, then Spring 2008 then October 2008... NXE is already out.

2. Yeah same with all the x360 crap... price drops here and there.

6. As if rumble makes my game better ... it's been on N64, I think X360 copy that there....

7. yeah, and other compagnies dont steal ideas either?

8. What does that have anything to do with X360?

9. And what's better?

2. MS does random price drops (such as $349 Pro) to get rid of stock. Sony just does different SKUs and price drops to toy with customers. Confuse them.

6. Rumble is a feature so important Sony finally got it for the PS3 like 2 years later lulz.

7. But Sony does it so blantantly (sp).

8. Because Microsoft uses original ideas.

9. NXE.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What???? talk about main color....what does color have to do with anything with console or politics. Has if sales or games depend on it.

ninja_where

Thank you for accepting that color has nothing to do with consoles or politics.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What???? talk about main color....what does color have to do with anything with console or politics. Has if sales or games depend on it.

ninja_where

Thank you for accepting that color has nothing to do with consoles or politics.

Guys, let's just call this thread a joke topic and move on. Can we?nervmeister

Nothing else to discuss. Not many intresting topics, might aswell just post here even if it is devoid of any real meaning. I'm in my, "I can't be bothered moving phase", so no, I can't be bothered doing anything else right now.

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

19. When compared to the PS2, it might as well equal no support.

26. It's true. You'll never find trophy whores but GamerScore is addicting.

53. MGS4 can't even compare to Halo 3.

11. In the shooter gen, yeah, it does.

AHUGECAT

1. Halo 3 did beat it in scores and is still being played worldwide. MGS4 is forgotten.

2. DualShock 3 isn't as ergonomic, and the triggers are embarassingly bad. It's like Sony said "Oh look let's copy the 360 again poorly like we always do!" and the SixAxis feature?

L.O.L!

3. GamerScore may just be numbers (there are pictures as well) but they are mandatory for every game, not just ones from 09 and GamerScore is more addictive than amount of trophies. Someone would rather have 15,000 gamerscore than 200 trophies. Proof? Look at all the gamerscore "cheaters" there are. Trophies are a joke and are late in the game. Sony isn't even trying anymore.

4. AHUGECAT is my PSN, but I am selling my PS3 today. I am going to buy Xbox 360 peripherals and games with the money.

5. At least the 360 has JRPGs out, plus LO is better than VC. WKC is going to flop while Sony doesn't get Final Fantasy exclusive anymore :)

7. Halo 3 is underrated. Lots of bandwagon haters.

Halo 3 has more players on LIVE than the entire PSN population.

PSN HAS 14 million "Active" users

are you saying Halo3 has more than 14million people on LIVE.....i doubt it even has 4million probably like 400,000

Wow this troll topic still alive ? I don`t know what the hell all mods doing right now............... Whether they all is indeed lems or they currently in holiday right now.............

Anyway TC 90% from your list is a stupid PS3 bashing................

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

This is actually quite hilarious now Your list consists of all of 4 points. That's obviously fair.

You do realise the Xbox 360 dosn't come with an HDMI either, right? And that for the most part playing music through the Xbox is unstable to say the least, right (It's the same on the PS3, neither handle music streaming very well)? If you were that bothered you could use an MP3 player, or mabye even actually just listen to music through a sound system. Really not an issue. With the quality of most of these points im susprised you havn't reached a 100. I'm sure you could saturate the list even more by making another 10 points about Halo 3 :lol:.

WasntAvailable

I am being as fair as possible.

Xbox 360 didn't have an HDMI chord til like last year and even then Microsoft doesn't have an HD disc like Sony. Sony is trying to promote it mor eand they don't even give you the right chords.

And lots of people play in-game music, it's a very popular feature.

And I can make 100 reasons why Halo 3 is the best game ever made... hmm.. when I think about it, I can...

If you say so.

You actually don't need HDMI to display HD as far as I know. I'm sure you can get 720p using a standard AV cable. On any account, the 2 pound (Lidl FTW) I paid for an HDMI cable is hardly a bitter loss. If both consoles are missing something, then they both share a common flaw. Nothing makes one or the other worse because, "They were actually promoting it." That means nothing. It dosn't affect the actual quality, hence it is not a point.

Tha dosn't make it all that useful. I try using it occasionally, but it often ends up with me being disconnected half way through a track. It's using up procesing time and memory, and that means it can lead to more crashes and freezes. It's better to play it through another system altogether.

You probably could, just don't make it as embarrasing as this list.

That's as serious as I am getting, I'm not going through another 40 or so of these.

Didn't Sony promise dual HDMI ports? Anyways why promote HD movies and not include HDMI? Pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't work 100% well but it's a neat feature and it has proven to be popular. Sony will never get it right though.

Embarassing? All I point out is the truth. There are no lies in my post.

[QUOTE="ninja_where"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What???? talk about main color....what does color have to do with anything with console or politics. Has if sales or games depend on it.

Bebi_vegeta

Thank you for accepting that color has nothing to do with consoles or politics.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Panther501"] Top 7 reasons why ahugecat fails (I don't need 50) 1. haha mgs4 can't be compared to halo even though mgs4 beat halo in score. 2. the controller issue is purely biased. I find I play better with a ds3 than an xbox controller 3. mandatory trophies in 2009 so your whole argument about trophy's sucking is stupid. In honest comparison, gamerscore is just a number while we have pictures, number of trophies awarded, and the number of trophy's per certain difficulty (bronze, silver, gold, platinum) 4. and judging from you scores that you posted as your sig, you have an obvious bias against the ps3 which begs the question do you really have a ps3? common sense says ...... NO! and if you honestly do give me your psn tag 5. all of your jrpgs have scored 8.0 and lower and don't have anything higher than a AA on metacritic 6. on the other hand, we have VC which I hear is more badass than any xbox jrpg and white knight story. oh and we have ff13vs 7. Halo 3 was overrated ridiculously, even lemmings say it is.caligamer

1. Halo 3 did beat it in scores and is still being played worldwide. MGS4 is forgotten.

2. DualShock 3 isn't as ergonomic, and the triggers are embarassingly bad. It's like Sony said "Oh look let's copy the 360 again poorly like we always do!" and the SixAxis feature?

L.O.L!

3. GamerScore may just be numbers (there are pictures as well) but they are mandatory for every game, not just ones from 09 and GamerScore is more addictive than amount of trophies. Someone would rather have 15,000 gamerscore than 200 trophies. Proof? Look at all the gamerscore "cheaters" there are. Trophies are a joke and are late in the game. Sony isn't even trying anymore.

4. AHUGECAT is my PSN, but I am selling my PS3 today. I am going to buy Xbox 360 peripherals and games with the money.

5. At least the 360 has JRPGs out, plus LO is better than VC. WKC is going to flop while Sony doesn't get Final Fantasy exclusive anymore :)

7. Halo 3 is underrated. Lots of bandwagon haters.

Halo 3 has more players on LIVE than the entire PSN population.

PSN HAS 14 million "Active" users

are you saying Halo3 has more than 14million people on LIVE.....i doubt it even has 4million probably like 400,000

Most of those are duplicates (after all IDs are free) and PSP... PS3 games are ghost towns, people still play Halo 3 by the thousands daily. Games that came out a month ago are already forgotten on the PSN.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Guys, let's just call this thread a joke topic and move on. Can we?Pimpshigity21

Or just accept this thread as reality and be very depressed at the current state of the Sony console.  I guess that if you move on you will feel better. 

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

2. It is true. First Sony has $499 and $599, then $499 and $599 with like 80GB and MotorStorm, then only one $499 then a $399 but this time no BC, and only 40GB then it has a $399 with 80GB and MotorStorm and then now it has a 160GB $499 with Uncharted and... at least Microsoft kept it to 3 SKUs.

6. It's true. Sony even lied about why they didn't have rumble. Rumble should've been standard.

7. Sony cannot think of an idea on their own.

8. Do you think Sony would've put in Sixaxis if it wasn't for Nintendo? Haha...

9. That is true. Home was supposed to come out October 2007, then Spring 2008 then October 2008... NXE is already out.

AHUGECAT

2. Yeah same with all the x360 crap... price drops here and there.

6. As if rumble makes my game better ... it's been on N64, I think X360 copy that there....

7. yeah, and other compagnies dont steal ideas either?

8. What does that have anything to do with X360?

9. And what's better?

2. MS does random price drops (such as $349 Pro) to get rid of stock. Sony just does different SKUs and price drops to toy with customers. Confuse them.

6. Rumble is a feature so important Sony finally got it for the PS3 like 2 years later lulz.

7. But Sony does it so blantantly (sp).

8. Because Microsoft uses original ideas.

9. NXE.

2. how now PS3 price drop and different SKU is acceptable ? LOL

6. it was so important that it was not integrated in there first controler... must be very important lulz...

7. right, I wonder where did microsoft got the idea of eye toy... right sony.

8. And that makes it better because?

9. yet people seem to say differently depending what console you own.

Because Microsoft uses original ideas.

 

AHUGECAT

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="ninja_where"] This is pointlessly getting to nowhere with choosing between white or black...let's call it quits for now and come back never...We all do know there's a green and a red...and there's a blue, yellow, red, and green light in the respective console...ninja_where

Thank you for accepting that color has nothing to do with consoles or politics.

Then why the hell were you talking about colors ????

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

2. Yeah same with all the x360 crap... price drops here and there.

6. As if rumble makes my game better ... it's been on N64, I think X360 copy that there....

7. yeah, and other compagnies dont steal ideas either?

8. What does that have anything to do with X360?

9. And what's better?

Bebi_vegeta

2. MS does random price drops (such as $349 Pro) to get rid of stock. Sony just does different SKUs and price drops to toy with customers. Confuse them.

6. Rumble is a feature so important Sony finally got it for the PS3 like 2 years later lulz.

7. But Sony does it so blantantly (sp).

8. Because Microsoft uses original ideas.

9. NXE.

2. how now PS3 price drop and different SKU is acceptable ? LOL

6. it was so important that it was not integrated in there first controler... must be very important lulz...

7. right, I wonder where did microsoft got the idea of eye toy... right sony.

8. And that makes it better because?

9. yet people seem to say differently depending what console you own.

2. LOL

6. Because Sony got their butts SUED LOL

7. No, Dreamcast

8. MS doesn't waste time on useless gimmicks

9. Home is laughingly bad

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

I am being as fair as possible.

Xbox 360 didn't have an HDMI chord til like last year and even then Microsoft doesn't have an HD disc like Sony. Sony is trying to promote it mor eand they don't even give you the right chords.

And lots of people play in-game music, it's a very popular feature.

And I can make 100 reasons why Halo 3 is the best game ever made... hmm.. when I think about it, I can...

AHUGECAT

If you say so.

You actually don't need HDMI to display HD as far as I know. I'm sure you can get 720p using a standard AV cable. On any account, the 2 pound (Lidl FTW) I paid for an HDMI cable is hardly a bitter loss. If both consoles are missing something, then they both share a common flaw. Nothing makes one or the other worse because, "They were actually promoting it." That means nothing. It dosn't affect the actual quality, hence it is not a point.

Tha dosn't make it all that useful. I try using it occasionally, but it often ends up with me being disconnected half way through a track. It's using up procesing time and memory, and that means it can lead to more crashes and freezes. It's better to play it through another system altogether.

You probably could, just don't make it as embarrasing as this list.

That's as serious as I am getting, I'm not going through another 40 or so of these.

Didn't Sony promise dual HDMI ports? Anyways why promote HD movies and not include HDMI? Pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't work 100% well but it's a neat feature and it has proven to be popular. Sony will never get it right though.

Embarassing? All I point out is the truth. There are no lies in my post.

No. Because you don't need HDMI, it is a luxury, just like WiFi adapters. You need the standardised cables that work in most TV's. Most TV's don't even have HDMI ports, meaning most PS3 owners don't use HDMI, so why include it if it will not be properly utilised by the consumers? Total waste of money on Sony's part. Unfortuantly WiFi adapters are alot more useful than HDMI cables in this case, which you seem to have "forgotten" to mention.

It dosn't work well at all, there are better solutions. Playing through the console is almost pointless, not to mention the PS3 can do it anyway.

Keep telling your self that. Whether or not you belive them they are still lies.

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Guys, let's just call this thread a joke topic and move on. Can we?nervmeister

Or just accept this thread as reality and be very depressed at the current state of the Sony console.  I guess that if you move on you will feel better. 

Cows are quite upset over this "fanboy trash".  Looks like a total cow meltdown to me.  I haven't seen cows this excited since all those Sony exclusives flopped back in 07. 

1. It (the PS3) is expensive-------------PRICE ISSUE?
2. Too many confusing SKUs
3. Lots of features dropped
4. No backward compatibility with PS2 for newer models
5. The CELL is hard to develop for
6. The controller has no rumble... wait now it does!
7. It tries to rip off Microsoft with the multiple SKU idea
8. Sony tried to rip off Nintendo with SIXAXIS
9. HOME has been delayed to the point MS has their answer to HOME already out
10. It caused Sony to go from undisputed number 1 to undisputed last
11. Controller is bad for FPS games
12. No exclusive WRPGs
13. Hardly any JRPGs
14. Most of its games are announced 3-5 years before actually coming out
15. Many of its games are delayed
16. Many of its games do not meet the hype (Lair comes to mind)
17. Even if they do meet the hype, they often fail when it comes to sales
18. LittleBigPlanet can get you in trouble if you make "tribute" levels
19. It has lost Square Enix support
20. Tekken 6 went multiplatform
21. It lost Ace Combat, Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia and Katamari Damacy
22. Final Fantasy XIII went multiplatform
23. GTAIV went multiplatform AND none of the DLC
24. The graphics have not yet meet up the hype
25. Multiplat games look better on the Xbox 360
26. No achievements, trophy system is embarassing and only supported by like 5 games
27. PSN may be free but doesn't have all the great features LIVE has, plus LIVE is only like $4 a month
28. PSN's community isn't as vibrant as LIVE's. I bet there are more people playing Halo 3 then all of PSN's population-------READ BELOW
29. PS3 may have Blu-ray but you can stream 1080 movies on 360
30. Xbox 360 has Netflix
31. Sony has delayed so many things, even the PS3 (originally was supposed to release March of 06), they even delayed it in Europe
32. Its installs for games take forever and many of them are mandatory
33. The firmware updates take forever (some up to an hour) and can brick your PS3
34. Sony lost Assassin's Creed and GTAIV even though Ubisoft and Rockstar went to Sony first, but Sony denied them.
35. 360 has an answer to every game on the PS3 - Resistance 2 isn't as good as Halo 3 or Gears 2, LBP is a little better than Banjo but 360 has Fable II, and much more games.
36. 360 has more games, period. Yeah, the PS3 had 3 standout titles this year, but the 360 had dozens of good games that override those PS3 games 10fold.
37. Sony isn't going to developers this gen, they had a chance to team up with EPIC for a killer shooter to rival Gears, but Sony did not want to do it.
38. Gears of War, a Rockstar exclusive (not L.A. Noire or RDR2), an exclusive Bioware game, etc. etc. have all promised to come to the PS3 but never have and never will.
39. For the price of a PS3, you can get an Xbox 360, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Banjo Kazooie N&B and Fable II.------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
40. The Xbox 360 has a promising future with Alan Wake, Halo: ODST, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, and many other games coming out.
41. Backward compatibility with the 360 with software updates, none for the PS3
42. PS3 probably won't be $200 for a couple years---------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
43. 360 has many more family oriented games now, such as SceneIt (which interested my mom), You're in the Movies and Banjo Kazooie.
44. Gran Turismo 5 is probably, never coming out. Forza 3 is not only superior, but will probably be out before GT5.
45. Sony has tons of franchises they could use, but refuse to use them. Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Syphon Filter, etc. etc.
46. More demos are on Xbox Live
47. As well as better arcade games (such as Braid and Castle Crashers)
48. More DLC for multiplats
49. Xbox 360 has good RTS, FPS, Platformers, Action Adventures, WRPGs, JRPGs, etc. etc. than the PS3. Overall a better package.
50. Xbox 360 has a better GPU
51. Sony has turned many full featured games into either PSN games (such as Siren and Wipeout) or taken out features all together, such as single player (Warhawk)
52. Many of its games are shorter than they should be (such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and MGS4)
53. No in-game music
54. It hypes up Blu-ray, HD, and all that BUT DOESN'T COME WITH AN HDMI CHORD!
55. PS3 doesn't have Halo 3.

To be fair, here are a few advantages the PS3 has:

KB/M support, Wifi standard, cheaper accessories, more hard drive options, more reliable and discs don't get scratched.

AHUGECAT

On Tuesday, Sony made a stir when it announced that its free PlayStation Network had attained 14 million "active users." The number, revealed to celebrate the PlayStation 3's second birthday, was remarkable, as it appeared to match the 14-million-strong subscriber base for the pay-to-play Xbox Live. Microsoft's online service launched in 2002 and has been a central pillar of its strategy since the Xbox 360 launched in 2005, one year before the PS3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201568.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=morenews&tag=morenews;title;10

So how much do want to bet that Halo3 doesnt have more people on LIVE then the entire PSN community ????? 14 million dollars????:lol:

and you cant list the same price issue 3 times keep your list at 50

 

PSN HAS 14 million "Active" users

 

 

 

Panther501

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[QUOTE="ninja_where"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

Thank you for accepting that color has nothing to do with consoles or politics.

Bebi_vegeta

Then why the hell were you talking about colors ????

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

If you say so.

You actually don't need HDMI to display HD as far as I know. I'm sure you can get 720p using a standard AV cable. On any account, the 2 pound (Lidl FTW) I paid for an HDMI cable is hardly a bitter loss. If both consoles are missing something, then they both share a common flaw. Nothing makes one or the other worse because, "They were actually promoting it." That means nothing. It dosn't affect the actual quality, hence it is not a point.

Tha dosn't make it all that useful. I try using it occasionally, but it often ends up with me being disconnected half way through a track. It's using up procesing time and memory, and that means it can lead to more crashes and freezes. It's better to play it through another system altogether.

You probably could, just don't make it as embarrasing as this list.

That's as serious as I am getting, I'm not going through another 40 or so of these.

 

WasntAvailable

Didn't Sony promise dual HDMI ports? Anyways why promote HD movies and not include HDMI? Pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't work 100% well but it's a neat feature and it has proven to be popular. Sony will never get it right though.

Embarassing? All I point out is the truth. There are no lies in my post.

No. Because you don't need HDMI, it is a luxury, just like WiFi adapters. You need the standardised cables that work in most TV's. Most TV's don't even have HDMI ports, meaning most PS3 owners don't use HDMI, so why include it if it will not be properly utilised by the consumers? Total waste of money on Sony's part. Unfortuantly WiFi adapters are alot more useful than HDMI cables in this case, which you seem to have "forgotten" to mention.

It dosn't work well at all, there are better solutions. Playing through the console is almost pointless, not to mention the PS3 can do it anyway.

Keep telling your self that. Whether or not you belive them they are still lies.

Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

1. It (the PS3) is expensive-------------PRICE ISSUE?
2. Too many confusing SKUs
3. Lots of features dropped
4. No backward compatibility with PS2 for newer models
5. The CELL is hard to develop for
6. The controller has no rumble... wait now it does!
7. It tries to rip off Microsoft with the multiple SKU idea
8. Sony tried to rip off Nintendo with SIXAXIS
9. HOME has been delayed to the point MS has their answer to HOME already out
10. It caused Sony to go from undisputed number 1 to undisputed last
11. Controller is bad for FPS games
12. No exclusive WRPGs
13. Hardly any JRPGs
14. Most of its games are announced 3-5 years before actually coming out
15. Many of its games are delayed
16. Many of its games do not meet the hype (Lair comes to mind)
17. Even if they do meet the hype, they often fail when it comes to sales
18. LittleBigPlanet can get you in trouble if you make "tribute" levels
19. It has lost Square Enix support
20. Tekken 6 went multiplatform
21. It lost Ace Combat, Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia and Katamari Damacy
22. Final Fantasy XIII went multiplatform
23. GTAIV went multiplatform AND none of the DLC
24. The graphics have not yet meet up the hype
25. Multiplat games look better on the Xbox 360
26. No achievements, trophy system is embarassing and only supported by like 5 games
27. PSN may be free but doesn't have all the great features LIVE has, plus LIVE is only like $4 a month
28. PSN's community isn't as vibrant as LIVE's. I bet there are more people playing Halo 3 then all of PSN's population-------READ BELOW
29. PS3 may have Blu-ray but you can stream 1080 movies on 360
30. Xbox 360 has Netflix
31. Sony has delayed so many things, even the PS3 (originally was supposed to release March of 06), they even delayed it in Europe
32. Its installs for games take forever and many of them are mandatory
33. The firmware updates take forever (some up to an hour) and can brick your PS3
34. Sony lost Assassin's Creed and GTAIV even though Ubisoft and Rockstar went to Sony first, but Sony denied them.
35. 360 has an answer to every game on the PS3 - Resistance 2 isn't as good as Halo 3 or Gears 2, LBP is a little better than Banjo but 360 has Fable II, and much more games.
36. 360 has more games, period. Yeah, the PS3 had 3 standout titles this year, but the 360 had dozens of good games that override those PS3 games 10fold.
37. Sony isn't going to developers this gen, they had a chance to team up with EPIC for a killer shooter to rival Gears, but Sony did not want to do it.
38. Gears of War, a Rockstar exclusive (not L.A. Noire or RDR2), an exclusive Bioware game, etc. etc. have all promised to come to the PS3 but never have and never will.
39. For the price of a PS3, you can get an Xbox 360, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Banjo Kazooie N&B and Fable II.------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
40. The Xbox 360 has a promising future with Alan Wake, Halo: ODST, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, and many other games coming out.
41. Backward compatibility with the 360 with software updates, none for the PS3
42. PS3 probably won't be $200 for a couple years---------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
43. 360 has many more family oriented games now, such as SceneIt (which interested my mom), You're in the Movies and Banjo Kazooie.
44. Gran Turismo 5 is probably, never coming out. Forza 3 is not only superior, but will probably be out before GT5.
45. Sony has tons of franchises they could use, but refuse to use them. Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Syphon Filter, etc. etc.
46. More demos are on Xbox Live
47. As well as better arcade games (such as Braid and Castle Crashers)
48. More DLC for multiplats
49. Xbox 360 has good RTS, FPS, Platformers, Action Adventures, WRPGs, JRPGs, etc. etc. than the PS3. Overall a better package.
50. Xbox 360 has a better GPU
51. Sony has turned many full featured games into either PSN games (such as Siren and Wipeout) or taken out features all together, such as single player (Warhawk)
52. Many of its games are shorter than they should be (such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and MGS4)
53. No in-game music
54. It hypes up Blu-ray, HD, and all that BUT DOESN'T COME WITH AN HDMI CHORD!
55. PS3 doesn't have Halo 3.

To be fair, here are a few advantages the PS3 has:

KB/M support, Wifi standard, cheaper accessories, more hard drive options, more reliable and discs don't get scratched.

caligamer

On Tuesday, Sony made a stir when it announced that its free PlayStation Network had attained 14 million "active users." The number, revealed to celebrate the PlayStation 3's second birthday, was remarkable, as it appeared to match the 14-million-strong subscriber base for the pay-to-play Xbox Live. Microsoft's online service launched in 2002 and has been a central pillar of its strategy since the Xbox 360 launched in 2005, one year before the PS3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201568.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=morenews&tag=morenews;title;10

So how much do want to bet that Halo3 doesnt have more people on LIVE then the entire PSN community ????? 14 million dollars????:lol:

and you cant list the same price issue 3 times keep your list at 50

As I said, the PSN ones can be duplicates and PSP. XBL is far more vibrant - 90% of PSN games are ghost towns (does anyone even play LBP anymore?) while Halo 3 alone hits 600,000 people daily.

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2. MS does random price drops (such as $349 Pro) to get rid of stock. Sony just does different SKUs and price drops to toy with customers. Confuse them.

6. Rumble is a feature so important Sony finally got it for the PS3 like 2 years later lulz.

7. But Sony does it so blantantly (sp).

8. Because Microsoft uses original ideas.

9. NXE.

AHUGECAT

2. how now PS3 price drop and different SKU is acceptable ? LOL

6. it was so important that it was not integrated in there first controler... must be very important lulz...

7. right, I wonder where did microsoft got the idea of eye toy... right sony.

8. And that makes it better because?

9. yet people seem to say differently depending what console you own.

2. LOL

6. Because Sony got their butts SUED LOL

7. No, Dreamcast

8. MS doesn't waste time on useless gimmicks

9. Home is laughingly bad

2. Thank you

6. And for Ps2 rumble controler 2 also?

7. so xbox 360 is better because they copied from dreamcast? and the ps2 from what? man, that's GG!

8. gimmick, please explain what is the HD-Drive that got canceled?

9. yet, people say it's great.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

 

Or just accept this thread as reality and be very depressed at the current state of the Sony console.  I guess that if you move on you will feel better. 

Pimpshigity21

Cows are quite upset over this "fanboy trash".  Looks like a total cow meltdown to me.  I haven't seen cows this excited since all those Sony exclusives flopped back in 07. 

This is fun. People ae enjoying it. Most of these so called "Cows" seem to be Xbox 360 owners. This is the most blatant fanboyism I have seen in a long time, so I might aswell enjoy it. System Wars has gotten awful dull since the release of all the big hitters. But seriosuly, people who use the terms "Cow" and "Lemming" are fanboys (Outside quotation marks that is.), and it really shows. They seem to think they are so very diffrent, as if they can seperate themselves. The funny thing is they are all so dilusional in the exact same ways. Thinking they can claim "ownage", because of a video games system? Most laughable thing I have ever heard, hence why this is so funny, and hence why it has reached over 20 pages.

lol MS uses original ideas... So you mean to say Lips, the new LIVE avatars, and many other features freakishly and incredibly similar to the PS3 and Wii, are originally by MS? Looks like a ripoff duplicate of those stuff to me. [QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="ninja_where"] Since when did I deny the color has nothing to do with consoles or politics fact? I was making some logic as to Obama and McCain is similar to PS3 and 360. I wasn't even discussing about color...All I said was one was black and one was white.ninja_where

Then why the hell were you talking about colors ????

Main colors? There's a black X360 and a white PS3, i'll chose what's the main color. Anyway go look at your first post, you clearly had nothing better to talk then color.

PS3 and 360 is like Obama and McCain.One is black, one is white. One wins, and one loses.The black one is young, the white one is old. Obama won...now, does common sense help you with that?(Not being racist or anything.) Also, saying PS3 is only good for blu-ray is like saying "RAWR! I'm a 360 fanboy! Behold of my awesome EPIC PHAILURENESS!!"

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Didn't Sony promise dual HDMI ports? Anyways why promote HD movies and not include HDMI? Pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't work 100% well but it's a neat feature and it has proven to be popular. Sony will never get it right though.

Embarassing? All I point out is the truth. There are no lies in my post.

AHUGECAT

No. Because you don't need HDMI, it is a luxury, just like WiFi adapters. You need the standardised cables that work in most TV's. Most TV's don't even have HDMI ports, meaning most PS3 owners don't use HDMI, so why include it if it will not be properly utilised by the consumers? Total waste of money on Sony's part. Unfortuantly WiFi adapters are alot more useful than HDMI cables in this case, which you seem to have "forgotten" to mention.

It dosn't work well at all, there are better solutions. Playing through the console is almost pointless, not to mention the PS3 can do it anyway.

Keep telling your self that. Whether or not you belive them they are still lies.

Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

Seriously dont you know where companies make there money .......off of accessories,software,etc. your "fully featured PC" analogy was not good because i know a lot of computer that have HDMI ports but not cables

heres a better analogy every single new plasma or LCD tv does not come with a HDMI cable, even the $8,000 65" LCD 1080P....HDMI cable is almost always bought separately cause it has a high mark up on it

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

Didn't Sony promise dual HDMI ports? Anyways why promote HD movies and not include HDMI? Pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't work 100% well but it's a neat feature and it has proven to be popular. Sony will never get it right though.

Embarassing? All I point out is the truth. There are no lies in my post.

AHUGECAT

No. Because you don't need HDMI, it is a luxury, just like WiFi adapters. You need the standardised cables that work in most TV's. Most TV's don't even have HDMI ports, meaning most PS3 owners don't use HDMI, so why include it if it will not be properly utilised by the consumers? Total waste of money on Sony's part. Unfortuantly WiFi adapters are alot more useful than HDMI cables in this case, which you seem to have "forgotten" to mention.

It dosn't work well at all, there are better solutions. Playing through the console is almost pointless, not to mention the PS3 can do it anyway.

Keep telling your self that. Whether or not you belive them they are still lies.

Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

No. Because you don't need HDMI, it is a luxury, just like WiFi adapters. You need the standardised cables that work in most TV's. Most TV's don't even have HDMI ports, meaning most PS3 owners don't use HDMI, so why include it if it will not be properly utilised by the consumers? Total waste of money on Sony's part. Unfortuantly WiFi adapters are alot more useful than HDMI cables in this case, which you seem to have "forgotten" to mention.

It dosn't work well at all, there are better solutions. Playing through the console is almost pointless, not to mention the PS3 can do it anyway.

Keep telling your self that. Whether or not you belive them they are still lies.

WasntAvailable

Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

Oh, and can I just state how fanboyism is? You gave World at War a 9.6 and MGS4 a 7.4. Why don't you just get on a loudspeaker and announce what a huge fanboy you are out your window? Both are just as socially disrespectful. NAPK1NS

I am the Number One player in Call of Duty WAW (I rank number 1 in kills)... so I should give a 10/10. MGS4 bumps down to a 6.4.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

AHUGECAT

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

WRONG? Name some games that have 30minute installs its your point so you can confirm it dont say "people can confirm it"

just simply name me a couple games with 30minute load times

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

 

caligamer

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

WRONG? Name some games that have 30minute installs its your point so you can confirm it dont say "people can confirm it"

just simply name me a couple games with 30minute load times

Firmware updates and Metal Gear Solid 4.

[QUOTE="caligamer"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

1. It (the PS3) is expensive-------------PRICE ISSUE?
2. Too many confusing SKUs
3. Lots of features dropped
4. No backward compatibility with PS2 for newer models
5. The CELL is hard to develop for
6. The controller has no rumble... wait now it does!
7. It tries to rip off Microsoft with the multiple SKU idea
8. Sony tried to rip off Nintendo with SIXAXIS
9. HOME has been delayed to the point MS has their answer to HOME already out
10. It caused Sony to go from undisputed number 1 to undisputed last
11. Controller is bad for FPS games
12. No exclusive WRPGs
13. Hardly any JRPGs
14. Most of its games are announced 3-5 years before actually coming out
15. Many of its games are delayed
16. Many of its games do not meet the hype (Lair comes to mind)
17. Even if they do meet the hype, they often fail when it comes to sales
18. LittleBigPlanet can get you in trouble if you make "tribute" levels
19. It has lost Square Enix support
20. Tekken 6 went multiplatform
21. It lost Ace Combat, Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia and Katamari Damacy
22. Final Fantasy XIII went multiplatform
23. GTAIV went multiplatform AND none of the DLC
24. The graphics have not yet meet up the hype
25. Multiplat games look better on the Xbox 360
26. No achievements, trophy system is embarassing and only supported by like 5 games
27. PSN may be free but doesn't have all the great features LIVE has, plus LIVE is only like $4 a month
28. PSN's community isn't as vibrant as LIVE's. I bet there are more people playing Halo 3 then all of PSN's population-------READ BELOW
29. PS3 may have Blu-ray but you can stream 1080 movies on 360
30. Xbox 360 has Netflix
31. Sony has delayed so many things, even the PS3 (originally was supposed to release March of 06), they even delayed it in Europe
32. Its installs for games take forever and many of them are mandatory
33. The firmware updates take forever (some up to an hour) and can brick your PS3
34. Sony lost Assassin's Creed and GTAIV even though Ubisoft and Rockstar went to Sony first, but Sony denied them.
35. 360 has an answer to every game on the PS3 - Resistance 2 isn't as good as Halo 3 or Gears 2, LBP is a little better than Banjo but 360 has Fable II, and much more games.
36. 360 has more games, period. Yeah, the PS3 had 3 standout titles this year, but the 360 had dozens of good games that override those PS3 games 10fold.
37. Sony isn't going to developers this gen, they had a chance to team up with EPIC for a killer shooter to rival Gears, but Sony did not want to do it.
38. Gears of War, a Rockstar exclusive (not L.A. Noire or RDR2), an exclusive Bioware game, etc. etc. have all promised to come to the PS3 but never have and never will.
39. For the price of a PS3, you can get an Xbox 360, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Banjo Kazooie N&B and Fable II.------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
40. The Xbox 360 has a promising future with Alan Wake, Halo: ODST, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, and many other games coming out.
41. Backward compatibility with the 360 with software updates, none for the PS3
42. PS3 probably won't be $200 for a couple years---------ANOTHER PRICE ISSUE?
43. 360 has many more family oriented games now, such as SceneIt (which interested my mom), You're in the Movies and Banjo Kazooie.
44. Gran Turismo 5 is probably, never coming out. Forza 3 is not only superior, but will probably be out before GT5.
45. Sony has tons of franchises they could use, but refuse to use them. Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Syphon Filter, etc. etc.
46. More demos are on Xbox Live
47. As well as better arcade games (such as Braid and Castle Crashers)
48. More DLC for multiplats
49. Xbox 360 has good RTS, FPS, Platformers, Action Adventures, WRPGs, JRPGs, etc. etc. than the PS3. Overall a better package.
50. Xbox 360 has a better GPU
51. Sony has turned many full featured games into either PSN games (such as Siren and Wipeout) or taken out features all together, such as single player (Warhawk)
52. Many of its games are shorter than they should be (such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and MGS4)
53. No in-game music
54. It hypes up Blu-ray, HD, and all that BUT DOESN'T COME WITH AN HDMI CHORD!
55. PS3 doesn't have Halo 3.

To be fair, here are a few advantages the PS3 has:

KB/M support, Wifi standard, cheaper accessories, more hard drive options, more reliable and discs don't get scratched.

AHUGECAT

On Tuesday, Sony made a stir when it announced that its free PlayStation Network had attained 14 million "active users." The number, revealed to celebrate the PlayStation 3's second birthday, was remarkable, as it appeared to match the 14-million-strong subscriber base for the pay-to-play Xbox Live. Microsoft's online service launched in 2002 and has been a central pillar of its strategy since the Xbox 360 launched in 2005, one year before the PS3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201568.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=morenews&tag=morenews;title;10

So how much do want to bet that Halo3 doesnt have more people on LIVE then the entire PSN community ????? 14 million dollars????:lol:

and you cant list the same price issue 3 times keep your list at 50

As I said, the PSN ones can be duplicates and PSP. XBL is far more vibrant - 90% of PSN games are ghost towns (does anyone even play LBP anymore?) while Halo 3 alone hits 600,000 people daily.

The 14 million LIVE users includes SILVER users that cant even play full games online so i bet just as many duplicates on the PSN is the same as the number of SILVER level membership on xbox

and you never answered why you had price issue 3 times ??????????

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Everything about the PS3 is just pointless luxury. Sony should've just released a game system with a generic CPU (like 360's) and Blu-ray perhaps and be done with it. Why have Blu-ray, brag about 1080p, HDMI ports, etc. etc. and not include an HDMI chord? It's like selling a "fully featured PC" without a monitor, KB/M, or any of the features.

Playing through the console is not pointless, indeed, I do it alot and so do others.

They are not lies. Point ONE lie (and if I was wrong about the in-game music I will change it).

AHUGECAT

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

No. Just no. You continue to lie, even though I clearly pointed out an obvious error. That was a desperate and foolish attempt to try and prove a point. The only game that takes a long time to install is MGS 4, and that is done in 4-8 minute chuncks. That is not half an hour, do not directly lie to me.

As for the first part that makes no sense at all. Having WiFi is a convience, and in many cases it is nessecary. I need it for one. The fact is: Xbox 360 does not come with WiFi, where as PS3 does, despite the Xbox 360 being a largely online system. HDMI is also convience, but it is not actually nessecary, just like WiFi. The same reason Microsoft didn't put WiFi in the Xbox 360 is the same reason Sony didn't put HDMI in the PS3 bundles, because it would have wasted alot of money.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

Ok then. The Xbox 360 is largely promoted as an online console, why dosn't it include a WiFi adapter? Why did you fail to point this out? I think I know the answer. Fact: Neither a PS3 or Xbox 360 comes with an HDMI cable, there for that does not actually give one an advantage over the other. Logic, use it.

It is pointless, it's a waste of system resources.

PS3 installs do not take more than 5 mins at the very most. A complete fabrication. I can point out more if you like.

 

WasntAvailable

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

No. Just no. You continue to lie, even though I clearly pointed out an obvious error. That was a desperate and foolish attempt to try and prove a point. The only game that takes a long time to install is MGS 4, and that is done in 4-8 minute chuncks. That is not half an hour, do not directly lie to me.

As for the first part that makes no sense at all. Having WiFi is a convience, and in many cases it is nessecary. I need it for one. The fact is: Xbox 360 does not come with WiFi, where as PS3 does, despite the Xbox 360 being a largely online system. HDMI is also convience, but it is not actually nessecary, just like WiFi. The same reason Microsoft didn't put WiFi in the Xbox 360 is the same reason Sony didn't put HDMI in the PS3 bundles, because it would have wasted alot of money.

MGS4 installs  take 10 minutes each, and thus proves Blu-ray is useless (switching discs take 10 seconds), and the Firmware updates (my main point) takes ages.

HDMI is important for the PS3 which is mainly a Blu-ray player. If Sony wasn't so crazy about Blu-ray you'd have a point.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

Because you can still play on LIVE without it. Your point would make sense if MS had a Wifi adapter already on the 360 but you needed antenna to make it work.

Wrong. PS3 installs take 30 minutes and people here can confirm it.

AHUGECAT

No. Just no. You continue to lie, even though I clearly pointed out an obvious error. That was a desperate and foolish attempt to try and prove a point. The only game that takes a long time to install is MGS 4, and that is done in 4-8 minute chuncks. That is not half an hour, do not directly lie to me.

As for the first part that makes no sense at all. Having WiFi is a convience, and in many cases it is nessecary. I need it for one. The fact is: Xbox 360 does not come with WiFi, where as PS3 does, despite the Xbox 360 being a largely online system. HDMI is also convience, but it is not actually nessecary, just like WiFi. The same reason Microsoft didn't put WiFi in the Xbox 360 is the same reason Sony didn't put HDMI in the PS3 bundles, because it would have wasted alot of money.

MGS4 installs  take 10 minutes each, and thus proves Blu-ray is useless (switching discs take 10 seconds), and the Firmware updates (my main point) takes ages.

HDMI is important for the PS3 which is mainly a Blu-ray player. If Sony wasn't so crazy about Blu-ray you'd have a point.

1. It (the PS3) is expensive So is the 360. Spending $50 a year adds up.

6. The controller has no rumble... wait now it does! Yea, it does have rumble. You're claiming it not having rumble in the past is a problem and then go on to say that "RROD is over, it doesn't matter"? Contradictory.

9. HOME has been delayed to the point MS has their answer to HOME already out Too bad it's inferior and not even close to HOME's potential.

10. It caused Sony to go from undisputed number 1 to undisputed last Undisputed last? You know what the Wii is, right?

13. Hardly any JRPGs But the 360 has tons, right?

16. Many of its games do not meet the hype (Lair comes to mind) A pro 360-thread in 2008 claiming all PS3 games flop? Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable II, Last Remnant, the list goes on forever... And that's just 2008.

18. LittleBigPlanet can get you in trouble if you make "tribute" levels Not anymore.

19. It has lost Square Enix support True, I'm missing out on great games like Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery.

28. PSN's community isn't as vibrant as LIVE's. I bet there are more people playing Halo 3 then all of PSN's population lol, you'd lose that bet mate.

30. Xbox 360 has Netflix You forgot to add "low quality" before Netflix.

31. Sony has delayed so many things, even the PS3 (originally was supposed to release March of 06), they even delayed it in Europe I'd prefer prefer a delay to laughably faulty hardware.

32. Its installs for games take forever and many of them are mandatory Forever? Try a few minutes, about the time it takes to find a match in Gears 2.

35. 360 has an answer to every game on the PS3 - Resistance 2 isn't as good as Halo 3 or Gears 2, LBP is a little better than Banjo but 360 has Fable II, and much more games. Valkria Chronicles = Fable II, Resistance 2 = Gears 2, Heavenly Sword = Ninja Gaiden, etc.

39. For the price of a PS3, you can get an Xbox 360, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Banjo Kazooie N&B and Fable II. You love repeating the "expensive" argument.

40. The Xbox 360 has a promising future with Alan Wake, Halo: ODST, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, and many other games coming out. KZ 2, God of War III, Twisted Metal, etc...

41. Backward compatibility with the 360 with software updates, none for the PS3 Yet another repeat of an argument?

42. PS3 probably won't be $200 for a couple years ... Another repeat?

43. 360 has many more family oriented games now, such as SceneIt (which interested my mom), You're in the Movies and Banjo Kazooie. ...You're In the Movies? Shovelware anyone? LittleBigPlanet and Buzz TV rule out those other two.

45. Sony has tons of franchises they could use, but refuse to use them. Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Syphon Filter, etc. etc. And they have created new franchises in their place. Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance etc.

46. More demos are on Xbox Live :roll:

51. Sony has turned many full featured games into either PSN games (such as Siren and Wipeout) or taken out features all together, such as single player (Warhawk) How is this a bad thing? You're right, making games more accessible to the consumer is bad.

52. Many of its games are shorter than they should be (such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and MGS4) Uncharted and MGS4 are not short.

53. PS3 doesn't have Halo 3. :lol:

WAIW

What he said to that asinine dumb***

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

 

No. Just no. You continue to lie, even though I clearly pointed out an obvious error. That was a desperate and foolish attempt to try and prove a point. The only game that takes a long time to install is MGS 4, and that is done in 4-8 minute chuncks. That is not half an hour, do not directly lie to me.

As for the first part that makes no sense at all. Having WiFi is a convience, and in many cases it is nessecary. I need it for one. The fact is: Xbox 360 does not come with WiFi, where as PS3 does, despite the Xbox 360 being a largely online system. HDMI is also convience, but it is not actually nessecary, just like WiFi. The same reason Microsoft didn't put WiFi in the Xbox 360 is the same reason Sony didn't put HDMI in the PS3 bundles, because it would have wasted alot of money.

micky4889

MGS4 installs  take 10 minutes each, and thus proves Blu-ray is useless (switching discs take 10 seconds), and the Firmware updates (my main point) takes ages.

HDMI is important for the PS3 which is mainly a Blu-ray player. If Sony wasn't so crazy about Blu-ray you'd have a point.

When I did it, and my friend did it, they took like 15 minutes each and I had to go through the "Smoking is bad" and "take a rest from playing" garbage about 12 times each.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

MGS4 installs  take 10 minutes each, and thus proves Blu-ray is useless (switching discs take 10 seconds), and the Firmware updates (my main point) takes ages.

HDMI is important for the PS3 which is mainly a Blu-ray player. If Sony wasn't so crazy about Blu-ray you'd have a point.

AHUGECAT

When I did it, and my friend did it, they took like 15 minutes each and I had to go through the "Smoking is bad" and "take a rest from playing" garbage about 12 times each.

15 minutes per chapter :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="micky4889"] Nope Mgs4 takes 1-2 minutes per chapter go read the reviewmicky4889

When I did it, and my friend did it, they took like 15 minutes each and I had to go through the "Smoking is bad" and "take a rest from playing" garbage about 12 times each.

15 minutes per chapter :lol: :lol:

It felt like 15 minutes, then after watching those weird movies in the beginning with eggs cracking and fitness people... I turned the game off and went straight to some Halo 3 (Halo 3 is the best game ever, it cannot even be rated because the pure greatness of it cannot be contained).

is this a joke topic?

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