$590 Console Killer PC - COMPLETE Build (4 TFLOP GPU)

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]Counter Strike is a good game, but so is Killzone. And again, I have yet to see a PC FPS exclusive that has the same graphics, movement feel as Killzone 2.lilnazar

Same graphics and movement speed of Killzone 2?

No thank you.

Killzone is way more like COD than Red Orchestra.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="blackace"]

The point is they aren't on the PC and gamers want to play them. :roll: They don't all need to be on one console. Many gamers have multiple consoles.

blackace

So what. If they can afford it and want to play those games that are NOT ON THE PC, that's their business. Hermits build powerful PC Rigs to play PC exclusives not on consoles. That's their choice. Consoles don't have to be upgraded for like 7-10yrs. So it's still a good investment. Many gamers wait for console price drops anyways, so getting a 360 and PS3 not is like less then $600. ;)

LOL at that poverty PC. If you are going to go PC do it right.

StrongBlackVine

[QUOTE="lilnazar"][QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

Same graphics and movement speed of Killzone 2?

No thank you.

GuNsbl4ziN

Killzone is way more like COD than Red Orchestra.

Better than your average cheap build, but it still lacks a monitor and those sale prices aren't always going to be around. Mail in rebates are also never the best. 

The processor is also a bit on the weaker end and the GPU will only last about 2 years before you have to significantly turn down settings. You also don't need a DVD drive anymore.

Also the copy of Windows 8 should be $99. Your link is sketchy.

I still stick to my beliefs that if you're going to get into PC gaming the initial cost will be much higher than console gaming. In the long run you can save a lot of money with PC gaming. It evens out in the end.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Not a single console has all of these games either :?

lostrib

The point is they aren't on the PC and gamers want to play them. :roll: They don't all need to be on one console. Many gamers have multiple consoles.

Well i think he's trying to show that a gaming PC does not need to be expensive.  But you guys are listing games that would require you to spend upwards of like $1500 on systems not counting paying for online

No he's trying to justify why gamers should get a cheaper PC over a game console. Like I said, it's not about the hardware, as it is about the games. Not everyone is going to buy multiple systems. There are gamers who will just buy a PS3 or a 360 for less then $350.

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]Lol, then enjoy playing that CoD-like Red Orchestra.lilnazar

Killzone is way more like COD than Red Orchestra.

I have played Killzone 2.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

LOL at that poverty PC. If you are going to go PC do it right.

Couth_

That's a poverty PC if i've ever seen oneCouth_

It's not that bad really... I'd personally opt to spend more on some different parts... but the RAM, CPU & GPU are all fine.

The problem is... that it might struggle to run games that the PS4 gets towards the end of the generation.

Better than your average cheap build, but it still lacks a monitor and those sale prices aren't always going to be around. Mail in rebates are also never the best. 

The processor is also a bit on the weaker end and the GPU will only last about 2 years before you have to significantly turn down settings. You also don't need a DVD drive anymore.

Also the copy of Windows 8 should be $99. Your link is sketchy.

I still stick to my beliefs that if you're going to get into PC gaming the initial cost will be much higher than console gaming. In the long run you can save a lot of money with PC gaming. It evens out in the end.

Wasdie

only thing i'd comment on about what you said is the monitor part..     I disagree with this... If you got an hd tv its fine. No monitor needed

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

U seem mad that pc is better than consoles.

GuNsbl4ziN

You seem mad that no one cares and would rather play exclusives console games then mutliplat PC games. ;) :P

Playing games have never really been about spec or power. It's always been about gameplay and fun.

You never needed a PC as powerful as what he listed to play great games like Tetris, M.U.L.E. Deluxe Asteroid, Marble Madness or Zelda.

Having a more powerful system doesn't make games on a less powerful sysetm, less fun. ;)

System wars would beg to differ.

Yeah, well system wars isn't part of reality unfortunately. :lol:

The facts remain the same outside of Fantasy Land.

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="blackace"]

You seem mad that no one cares and would rather play exclusives console games then mutliplat PC games. ;) :P

Playing games have never really been about spec or power. It's always been about gameplay and fun.

You never needed a PC as powerful as what he listed to play great games like Tetris, M.U.L.E. Deluxe Asteroid, Marble Madness or Zelda.

Having a more powerful system doesn't make games on a less powerful sysetm, less fun. ;)

blackace

System wars would beg to differ.

Yeah, well system wars isn't part of reality unfortunately. :lol:

The facts remain the same outside of Fantasy Land.

I do agree with what you are saying, but we are unfortunately in fantasy land.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

You seem mad that no one cares and would rather play exclusives console games then mutliplat PC games. ;) :P

Playing games have never really been about spec or power. It's always been about gameplay and fun.

You never needed a PC as powerful as what he listed to play great games like Tetris, M.U.L.E. Deluxe Asteroid, Marble Madness or Zelda.

Having a more powerful system doesn't make games on a less powerful sysetm, less fun. ;)

edidili

That might be true but what's the point of next gen consoles then?

More exclusives. New Ips. Better games. Hopefully more innovative games and controllers.

[QUOTE="lilnazar"][QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

 

Killzone is way more like COD than Red Orchestra.

GuNsbl4ziN

I have played Killzone 2.

That's a poverty PC if i've ever seen oneCouth_

If you're going to build a gaming PC, you might as well build the best you can afford so that it at least has a 5-6yrs life. I seriously wouldn't build one cheaply.

wouldnt touch that build with a 10ft pole

wouldnt touch that build with a 10ft pole

wis3boi

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]And multiple console cost far more than that PC...superclocked

So what. If they can afford it and want to play those games that are NOT ON THE PC, that's their business. Hermits build powerful PC Rigs to play PC exclusives not on consoles. That's their choice. Consoles don't have to be upgraded for like 7-10yrs. So it's still a good investment. Many gamers wait for console price drops anyways, so getting a 360 and PS3 not is like less then $600. ;)

Ok, I understand that, but what you built would need to be upgraded within 2-3yrs, which would cost even more money. With the new Next Gen consoles, we won't see any new ones for at least 6-7yrs from now. Most serious PC gamers would rather fork over $800-$1000 and build a rig that will last 5-6yrs at least.

The truth is simple.

No matter how powerful a PC is, there are a TON of AAA games and franchises that the PC will never have.

Meanwhile, the PC has maybe a handful of original, AAA, PC-only exclusives.

The only thing the PC has going for it is modding and maxed-out multiplats. But is that good enough to ignore all the awesome games on consoles?

Answer - HELL NO.

But if it makes Hermits happy, then yes, your PCs can push more TFLOPs. Have fun playing with benchmarking programs generating arbitrary numbers.

GTA5 > every PC game made to date and it's running at 30fps at 720p on 7 year old hardware. It's got pop-in, jaggies, severe framerate dips at times... and it's STILL looking like GOTY because it's THAT good and no PC game other than maybe the GTA4 port with modding comes close.

If you guys are lucky, Rockstar might port GTA5 to PC in a year or two too!

;)

The truth is simple.

No matter how powerful a PC is, there are a TON of AAA games and franchises tha tthe PC will never have.

Meanwhile, the PC has many a handful of original, AAA, PC-only exclusives.

The only thing the PC has going for it is modding and maxed-out multiplats. But is that good enough to ignore all the awesome games on consoles?

Answer - HELL NO.

But if it makes Hermits happy, then yes, your PCs can push more TFLOPs. Have fun playing with benchmarking programs generating arbitrary numbers.

 

GTA5 > every PC game made to date and it's running at 30fps at 720p on 7 year old hardware. It's got pop-in, jaggies, severe framerate dips at times... and it's STILL looking like GOTY because it's THAT good and no PC other than maybe the GTA4 port with modding comes close.

If you guy are lucky, Rockstar might port GTA5 to PC in a year or two too!

 

;)

Netherscourge

at least put in some effort

$575 Console Killer PC

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

[QUOTE="lilnazar"][QUOTE="edidili"]

Movement and recoil? C'mon now. You gotta be kidding. 

edidili

Really slow gameplay. Gunplay that relies too much on scopes, zooming in. Comparing it with CS for example is quite dull both in movements and recoil. Especially when compared for accuracy needed. Doesn't rely on headshots as much as CS, is more of a "shoot in that general direction" kind of game. 

Except Killzone doesn't rely on scopes and zooming in.

On topic: Most of us console gamers aren't concerned with having more raw power. We're concerned about the exclusives on said consoles. 

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

The truth is simple.

No matter how powerful a PC is, there are a TON of AAA games and franchises tha tthe PC will never have.

Meanwhile, the PC has many a handful of original, AAA, PC-only exclusives.

The only thing the PC has going for it is modding and maxed-out multiplats. But is that good enough to ignore all the awesome games on consoles?

Answer - HELL NO.

But if it makes Hermits happy, then yes, your PCs can push more TFLOPs. Have fun playing with benchmarking programs generating arbitrary numbers.

 

GTA5 > every PC game made to date and it's running at 30fps at 720p on 7 year old hardware. It's got pop-in, jaggies, severe framerate dips at times... and it's STILL looking like GOTY because it's THAT good and no PC other than maybe the GTA4 port with modding comes close.

If you guy are lucky, Rockstar might port GTA5 to PC in a year or two too!

 

;)

wis3boi

at least put in some effort

I put more effort into my post than you did in this whole thread.

The truth is simple.

No matter how powerful a PC is, there are a TON of AAA games and franchises tha tthe PC will never have.

Meanwhile, the PC has many a handful of original, AAA, PC-only exclusives.

The only thing the PC has going for it is modding and maxed-out multiplats. But is that good enough to ignore all the awesome games on consoles?

Answer - HELL NO.

But if it makes Hermits happy, then yes, your PCs can push more TFLOPs. Have fun playing with benchmarking programs generating arbitrary numbers.

 

GTA5 > every PC game made to date and it's running at 30fps at 720p on 7 year old hardware. It's got pop-in, jaggies, severe framerate dips at times... and it's STILL looking like GOTY because it's THAT good and no PC other than maybe the GTA4 port with modding comes close.

If you guy are lucky, Rockstar might port GTA5 to PC in a year or two too!

 

;)

Netherscourge

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Better than your average cheap build, but it still lacks a monitor and those sale prices aren't always going to be around. Mail in rebates are also never the best. 

The processor is also a bit on the weaker end and the GPU will only last about 2 years before you have to significantly turn down settings. You also don't need a DVD drive anymore.

Also the copy of Windows 8 should be $99. Your link is sketchy.

I still stick to my beliefs that if you're going to get into PC gaming the initial cost will be much higher than console gaming. In the long run you can save a lot of money with PC gaming. It evens out in the end.

lunar1122

only thing i'd comment on about what you said is the monitor part..     I disagree with this... If you got an hd tv its fine. No monitor needed

Yes it is. Playing PC games on an HDTV is a pain. Unless your HDTV is set up on a desk so you could use it like a monitor it's not worth. Trying to convert a home entertainment system with a couch and chair into something suitable to play PC games is not worth it. 

A monitor is as cheap as $150 and it's going to be 100x better than any HDTV setup. 

Hunching over a coffee table while sitting 5+ feet back from your screen is not how you play PC games. PC games are built for people sitting at a desk. Text is smaller, FoVs are higher, and user interfaces are usually filled with more information. You can always tell when a game is a port of a console game by just looking at the interface. 

The truth is simple.

No matter how powerful a PC is, there are a TON of AAA games and franchises that the PC will never have.

Meanwhile, the PC has maybe a handful of original, AAA, PC-only exclusives.

The only thing the PC has going for it is modding and maxed-out multiplats. But is that good enough to ignore all the awesome games on consoles?

Answer - HELL NO.

But if it makes Hermits happy, then yes, your PCs can push more TFLOPs. Have fun playing with benchmarking programs generating arbitrary numbers.

 

GTA5 > every PC game made to date and it's running at 30fps at 720p on 7 year old hardware. It's got pop-in, jaggies, severe framerate dips at times... and it's STILL looking like GOTY because it's THAT good and no PC game other than maybe the GTA4 port with modding comes close.

If you guy are lucky, Rockstar might port GTA5 to PC in a year or two too!

 

;)

Netherscourge

There are many PC excluisves which are better than GTA5.

$575 Console Killer PC Caseytappy

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

$575 Console Killer PC superclocked

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

Last time I checked we don't play graphics alone. If you're buying a console for graphics you're doing it wrong. This entire thread is built on the assumption that people buy consoles to play the best looking games out there. They don't.

[QUOTE="superclocked"]For less than $575, this PC will destroy next gen consoles. This includes everything. Tower, CPU, MB, RAM, HDD, GPU, PSU, DVD, Windows 8, keyboard, and gaming mouse. The 7950 GPU will output 3.94 TFLOPS at 1.1GHz. And it even comes with 3 free games of your choosing... $119.99 COMBO PRICE after included $20 Newegg Gift Card - AMD FX-6300 4.1GHz Six-Core CPU + BIOSTAR A960D+ Motherboard $57.99 - Team Elite 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM $179.99 after MIR - PowerColor PCS+ Radeon HD 7950 3GB Videocard + 3 FREE GOLD GAMES $39.99 w/ Promo Code EMCXLVS53 and MIR - Rosewill Stallion Series 700W PSU $19.99 - GIGABYTE GZ-F3HEB Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $14.99 - LG 24X DVD Burner $69.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache Hard Drive $47.99 - Microsoft Windows 8 Professional $8.99 - LITE-ON Black and Silver Wired Standard Keyboard $12.99 - Perixx 2.4G 1000/1600 DPI Optical Resolution Wireless Ergonomic Mouse _______ $572.90Netherscourge

Yea, but it doesn't have GTA5, Red Dead Redemption, Forza, DriveClub, Killzone, Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Last of Us, MLB the Show, Maddens, NBA2K, Gears of War, etc... etc...

Did I miss any?

Yeah you missed all the games from previous consoles too, may aswell list all of those as if they belong to one platform aswell. I bet RDR, Mario, Zelda Gears of war etc are great on the PS4...

Also, LOL @ the $20 case.

"One 80mm rear fan with ventilated side panels "

Rofl... good luck with that.

$575 Console Killer PC Caseytappy

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

$575 Console Killer PC Wasdie

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

Last time I checked we don't play graphics alone. If you're buying a console for graphics you're doing it wrong. This entire thread is built on the assumption that people buy consoles to play the best looking games out there. They don't.

[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

$575 Console Killer PC XxR3m1xInHDn3D

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

Then you're limiting yourself to indie games and sales while waiting for new games to come down in price.

It's all about tradeoffs. I find PC gaming is better value despite being more expensive. You get way more for your money.

[QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"][QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

$575 Console Killer PC Wasdie

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

Then you're limiting yourself to indie games and sales while waiting for new games to come down in price.

It's all about tradeoffs. I find PC gaming is better value despite being more expensive. You get way more for your money.

Yes! I wish people would stop making these kinds of threads.  PC gaming is expensive

Yes it is. Playing PC games on an HDTV is a pain. Unless your HDTV is set up on a desk so you could use it like a monitor it's not worth.

Wasdie

I would never go back to using a regular little monitor and having to hunch over at a desk to see the screen good. I can lay in bed like I am now, or I can chill back in my recliner with the keyboard on my lap or on the folding table and use it like a desk and I can see everything on the screen perfect no matter where I am in my room. And games just look 100x better on this TV than they do most regular little "computer monitors". I don't see any cons to using this TV as my monitor. I fell in love with the setup the day I came up with the idea to hook it up.

[QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"][QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

$575 Console Killer PC Wasdie

 

So PC gaming more expensive confirmed ?

Then you're limiting yourself to indie games and sales while waiting for new games to come down in price.

It's all about tradeoffs. I find PC gaming is better value despite being more expensive. You get way more for your money.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="LA-Nighthawk"]It still needs to be upgraded while consoles don't. Snugenz

or it might not be

It might not run 8 year old games as well as optimized console versions but it'll still run em.

Can the mid-range pc from 8 years ago run crysis 3? or rome something something, probably 1 fps :D

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

or it might not be

ramonnl

It might not run 8 year old games as well as optimized console versions but it'll still run em.

Can the mid-range pc from 8 years ago run crysis 3? or rome something something, probably 1 fps :D

No idea, but these are differnt situations

[QUOTE="Couth_"]That's a poverty PC if i've ever seen oneblackace

If you're going to build a gaming PC, you might as well build the best you can afford so that it at least has a 5-6yrs life. I seriously wouldn't build one cheaply.

I don't know how many times I've seen first timers set their budget at like $800-1000 because forum neckbeards say it's possible with crap builds like in the OP. Once the first timers actually do their own research their budget always hits the 2k mark :lol:

 

Can I stick it under my TV and have no worries that every game in the next 8 years will work on it?

muffin200

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]lol @ $47 for Windows 8. That has to be the most sketchy website I've ever seen. If you're stupid enough to give them your credit card info, you'll deserve any impending identity theft you ensue.Messiahbolical-

Windows 7 best windows since xp, it made me buy it after skipping the horrible vista.
But now they gone and release windows 8 :cry:, I stick with windows 7! 

[QUOTE="muffin200"]

 

Can I stick it under my TV and have no worries that every game in the next 8 years will work on it?

Netret0120

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]lol @ $47 for Windows 8. That has to be the most sketchy website I've ever seen. If you're stupid enough to give them your credit card info, you'll deserve any impending identity theft you ensue.Messiahbolical-

You´d better pay a few additional bucks and change that CPU for FX 8350. 

so the console bargain is only a myth, wait till the new lineup for CPUs-GPUs, that will put a nail in the coffin.

Can the mid-range pc from 8 years ago run crysis 3? or rome something something, probably 1 fps :D

ramonnl