64% Of Consumer Spending On Xbox Titles Was On PlayStation

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#152  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:

Xbox problems aren't industry problems.

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case in point ^

apparently Jim Ryan, Shawn Layden, Kenichiro Yoshida, Shuhei Yoshida, and Hiroki Tokoki are all "Xbox Twitter/YouTube creators".. 🙄

completely ignores PlayStation leadership, past and present, literally saying "these are industry problems" and goes back to "b bu but Xbox"..

there's nothing more you can say to a person like that..

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#153 Heil68
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bu bu bu xboxxxxx!!!

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#154 GhostOfGolden
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@Antwan3K said:
@ghostofgolden said:

Xbox problems aren't industry problems.

[...]

case in point ^

apparently Jim Ryan, Shawn Layden, Kenichiro Yoshida, Shuhei Yoshida, and Hiroki Tokoki are all "Xbox Twitter/YouTube creators".. 🙄

completely ignores PlayStation leadership, past and present, literally saying "these are industry problems" and goes back to "b bu but Xbox"..

there's nothing more you can say to a person like that..

Going after the live service money, acknowledging AAA game budgets are unsustainable and looking for supplemental income isn't the same as the Xbox strategy. Again, with the false equivalencies. Xbox can't sell hardware at even the same level as their previous worst console. They can't grow Game Pass. They aren't making meaningful progress in growing their PC presence. So they are forced to sell their biggest and best titles on competitors hardware to cover losses... PlayStation 5 is outselling the PlayStation 4, which outsold the PS3. PlayStation is STILL making billions more in revenue than Xbox+ABK. Nintendo just broke 150 million console units and 1.35 billion software units. Those numbers spit in the face of everything you're trying to push here.

But please, continue with the false equivalencies and disingenuous takes. They're obviously needed to make yourself feel better about the state of Xbox.

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#155  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden: PlayStation leadership is telling you that the industry is changing and PlayStation can no longer depend on just their console sales and exclusive games yet all you point to is their console sales and exclusive games..

PlayStation is telling you that they have to port to PC and do remasters in order to support PS5 1st party yet, "b bu but Xbox"..

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#156  Edited By Archangel3371  Online
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@Antwan3K: Exactly. PlayStation hasn’t grown their base since the PS2 yet budgets for their games have grown exponentially. Their leadership has explained this already. “Bu....bu....but Xbox” indeed.

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#157  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Archangel3371 said:

@Antwan3K: Exactly. PlayStation hasn’t grown their base since the PS2 yet budgets for their games have grown exponentially. Their leadership has explained this already. “Bu....bu....but Xbox” indeed.

per usual,

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#158 Archangel3371  Online
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@Antwan3K: Spot on. 😅

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#159 GhostOfGolden
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@Antwan3K said:

@ghostofgolden: PlayStation leadership is telling you that the industry is changing and PlayStation can no longer depend on just their console sales and exclusive games..

PlayStation is telling you that they have to port to PC and make remasters in order to support PS5 1st party.. PlayStation is telling you that a multiplatform approach is needed to improve profit margins..

yet, "b bu but Xbox"..

You're saying PlayStation is doing what Xbox is doing, but then saying "yet, b bu but Xbox" to dismiss my response.

What does your response have to do with PlayStation not putting games on Xbox? Because they aren't going to do that...

Yes, porting games to PC is very inexpensive, and a good way to push a few hundred thousand more sales. They still aren't porting all games day 1. They also aren't porting day 1 or timed ports to Xbox. Xbox is doing both of those things. The Xbox strategy and the PlayStation strategy aren't the same thing. There is no PlayStation Game Pass. There is no PC subscription service. The majority of ports come to PC much later. And other than the 3rd party contractually obligated Xbox ports, PlayStation isn't selling games on Xbox.

The gaming CEO's are doing everything they can to launch the next Fortnite. The live service problem continues to be the bane of their existence. Xbox at least has COD. BLOPS 6 is their saving grace at the moment. Any yoy growth they had was because of COD. (especially COD on PS5) PlayStation doesn't have one of those. They also don't have the ability to go out and buy one. Destiny 2 wasn't it. Concord lmao... Foamstars? PlayStation doesn't want to spend $500 million on another Naughty Dog game every couple years. They wanna spend $20 million on a shooter that prints money. THAT'S what will improve their margins.

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#160  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Antwan3K said:

@ghostofgolden: PlayStation leadership is telling you that the industry is changing and PlayStation can no longer depend on just their console sales and exclusive games..

PlayStation is telling you that they have to port to PC and make remasters in order to support PS5 1st party.. PlayStation is telling you that a multiplatform approach is needed to improve profit margins..

yet, "b bu but Xbox"..

You're saying PlayStation is doing what Xbox is doing, but then saying "yet, b bu but Xbox" to dismiss my response.

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i'm quoting both past and present PlayStation leaders.. PlayStation leaders who point to a changing gaming industry which is why PlayStation is adopting a multiplatform approach and chasing live service games..

literally, "industry problems"..

and in response to any mention of "industry problems", you claim it's really just "Xbox problems"..

literally, "b bu but Xbox"..

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#161 GhostOfGolden
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@Antwan3K: Ignoring the rest of my post is the only way you can come up with that response. All of that is addressed.

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#162  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:

@Antwan3K: Ignoring the rest of my post is the only way you can come up with that response. All of that is addressed.

re-read your own post..

I presented quotes from PlayStation leadership stating that these are indeed industry problems they're reacting to.. PlayStation is switching to a multiplatform strategy.. PlayStation is chasing live service games.. PlayStation has to rely on remasters and PC ports to fund new games.. all because PlayStation can no longer depend on just console sales and exclusive games..

you then immediately respond by talking about XBOX even though i haven't mentioned Xbox during this entire conversation..

everything you say can be summed up with "b bu but Xbox"..

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#163  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Antwan3K: If that’s what you’re getting from my response, then you clearly can’t read. I’m telling you why what those PS execs are saying, and what Xbox is doing are DIFFERENT. You’re choosing to ignore that information. Yet you’re trying to draw parallels with the PlayStation strategy and the Xbox strategy. There’s nothing I can do with that. 🤷🏾‍♂️And the irony is anytime folks are critical of the Xbox strategy, your defense is “b bu but PlayStation”. Except you are misrepresenting the PlayStation information.

It’s always fan fiction with you 🙄😂

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@ghostofgolden said:

@Antwan3K: If that’s what you’re getting from my response, then you clearly can’t read. I’m telling you why what those PS execs are saying, and what Xbox is doing are DIFFERENT. You’re choosing to ignore that information. There’s nothing I can do with that. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Xbots narrative "Sony too" in last 10 years. And still repeating same shit. But guess what which ship is sinking, but other 2 still sailing great.

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#165 GhostOfGolden
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@loudheadphones said:
@ghostofgolden said:

@Antwan3K: If that’s what you’re getting from my response, then you clearly can’t read. I’m telling you why what those PS execs are saying, and what Xbox is doing are DIFFERENT. You’re choosing to ignore that information. There’s nothing I can do with that. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Xbots narrative "Sony too" in last 10 years. And still repeating same shit. But guess what which ship is sinking, but other 2 still sailing great.

2 companies have record breaking generations, but the 3rd place company is the one with the correct strategy. You can’t make this up 😂🤣

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#166  Edited By Pedro
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Sony releasing their games on PC is a Sony strategy right?🤭

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#167  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:

@Antwan3K: If that’s what you’re getting from my response, then you clearly can’t read. I’m telling you why what those PS execs are saying, and what Xbox is doing are DIFFERENT. You’re choosing to ignore that information. Yet you’re trying to draw parallels with the PlayStation strategy and the Xbox strategy. There’s nothing I can do with that. 🤷🏾‍♂️And the irony is anytime folks are critical of the Xbox strategy, your defense is “b bu but PlayStation”. Except you are misrepresenting the PlayStation information.

It’s always fan fiction with you 🙄😂

look at post #149 on page 3.. I did nothing but quote PlayStation executives as they clearly illustrated how the wider gaming industry is changing and how PlayStation also needs to change.. i didn't mention Xbox once..

now look at the first sentence of post #150.. literally the first word is "Xbox".. you can't help yourself, you have to make everything about Xbox..

next, look at every post between us since then.. feel free to count the number of times i mentioned Xbox.. I'm quoting PlayStation execs about PlayStation, yet every response from you is talking about Xbox..

"b bu but Xbox" is your default response to everything..

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#168 Nonstop-Madness
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@Pedro said:

Sony releasing their games on PC is a Sony strategy right?🤭

Technically speaking, Sony Interactive Studios America (i.e. PlayStation) was releasing games on PlayStation and Windows back in 97. lol

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#169 Pedro
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

Technically speaking, Sony Interactive Studios America (i.e. PlayStation) was releasing games on PlayStation and Windows back in 97. lol

Go on. Keep listing the games that they were releasing on PS and PC.😏