pretty muchDepends on price. If same price, disc.
Nohtnym
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i have one big proble with buying gamess on a steam
i love to buy my video gaames from amazon i mean if you wait 2-3 months you can buy most games used i might add for half price
if this steam ideal passes then we all will be paying the same price for ever game with no other place to shop at
My game collection exists in both worlds: Physical and DD. From now on, I'm pretty much all DD, however. Here's why:
I built a new PC not long ago and of course had to install everything. I still don't have all my physical games installed because for each one I'm having to run around and find patches and updates. A lot of the older games whose publishers have gone under are difficult to find for, so I've been dragging my ass on installing some of the older titles just because I'm lazy sometimes.
All my Steam games are installed because all I had to do was download steam (tiny, took all of 5 seconds to download), tell it which games to install and go to bed. When I got up in the morning, they were all installed, patched, and ready to play...except for setting up resolution and stuff, but now they have the Steam Cloud on some games so I won't even have to bother with that in the future.
I also like the fact that my house can burn down and I lose everything I have, but my Steam games will be safe and waiting for me to log on from whatever computer I happen to have or get.
I personally see a future where everything except Collectors Editions are DD, and even with the CE you'll get a code to download the game, not a disk.
Bandwidth may be an issue for some, but that's not going to be an eternal concern. The internet will become even more ubiquitous than it is now. Look for a day when your freaking credit/debit card is online wirelessly...it's coming.
Gone are the days of knowing that in 20 years, your game will still work provided that you have the working system and that the disc is readable.erglesmergleIts more likely that you'll have internet than a working disk in 20 years. If you somehow lost the game for whatever reason, you can probably just get it again for super cheap. Good Old Games sells great games from the past 20 years or so for less than $10. Its more likely your DVD breaks, degrades, wrecks your laser, gets lost, etc. than the internet going down.
Well it should be obvious that he's talking about current gen consoles and yeah you can download(legally) full retail(not arcade) games on both the 360 and PS3. ;)I didn't even know you can download games on Consoles. By Consoles you mean that only the newer ones (360 Ps3 and Wii) can download? I don't think Ps2 or Sega Genesis can download.
whipassmt
DD is better. The problem is mostly with some ISP's.
glez13
Even if I had the best ISP in the world, I would still prefer a physical medium.
On my Laptop DD just because I don't have a Disk drive but overall I actually like owning a hard copy of my games.
I'm kinda torn on this one. As much as I like physical boxes and discs, and seeing a tangible product on a shelf, I must admit I don't miss the clutter and "scratched disc read error" business. I recently picked up a PSP Go, an all DD platform, and think it's suiting me just fine.
I hate having game boxes everywhere. Would much rather just click a button and the game I want plays. I honestly see no point to having a physical copy as they can break, and a downloaded copy can't.i5750at4Ghz
I have CDs from 15-20 years ago that still work perfectly. And people have cartridges that are 30+ years old in perfect working condition. With proper care most physical media can last a long time.
Do you think services like Steam will even be around in 20 or 30 years? Cause I personally doubt it.
Its more likely that you'll have internet than a working disk in 20 years. If you somehow lost the game for whatever reason, you can probably just get it again for super cheap. Good Old Games sells great games from the past 20 years or so for less than $10. Its more likely your DVD breaks, degrades, wrecks your laser, gets lost, etc. than the internet going down.[QUOTE="erglesmergle"] Gone are the days of knowing that in 20 years, your game will still work provided that you have the working system and that the disc is readable.110million
My games arent going anywhere without me knowing. And why the hell would you want to buy games for super cheap when youve already bought them. My PS1 and PS2 are still working perfectly till this day. In 20 years, Ill have internet, but I dont know if Steam or Sony or Microsoft will still have my games that I purchased for me to download for free. If Sony cant even allow their PS3 that only does everything, to run PS2 games, how can you expect them to have PSN games available for download in the future? They can just give you some BS PR answer like "We feel there isnt a high demand to play older games so weve decided to take down the servers containing those older PSN games to save costs and spend the money on things gamers do want." There wouldnt be anything you could do about that. ANYTHING can happen digitally.
I dont know why youre even arguing with me on this. Its like fighting common sense. Youre giving up your rights for a little convenience. Stop trying to find the most insignificant excuses to make Digital Downloads seem more convenient that it really is. The ONLY benefit of DD is saving space and gas money. Thats it. Along with those two benefits comes a bunch of downsides like accounts and passwords, less ownership of the game, no guarantee of it working in the future, no sharing with friends, limited to internet speed / cap, no more game collections / memorabilia, resale of games, etc.
Give up. You cant win this argument.
downloading a game that is 5 gb and more just seem like a pain in the behind to me. can you imagine downloading a game that would be 50 - 100 gb and then install them? I would rather just go to the store and buy it
DD is better. The problem is mostly with some ISP's.
glez13
Pretty much all ISPs annoy me to no end, what I am actually getting is worth way less than what I pay.
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I would never Download a console game purely for convenience, if I wanted a particular game, I'd go out and buy the damn thing in its actual form, not a bunch of code over the Internet.
erglesmergle
thats nonsensical. all you do in that case is buy the same bunch of code on a dvd from a middleman for an inflated price.
Ive gotten bored of Fat Princess. Ill sell it to you at a discount. Just gotta find a way first.
LOL. And down he goes.Untill DD gets some collectors value or trade value or any sort of value it will never appeal to hardcore gamers.
I prefer discs to downloads since my connection is so slow. When broadband connections achieve super fast speeds available to people in many different areas though, I'll probably be more pro-downloads. I don't see it happening anytime during this console generation though.
It's important for both to exist. DD should exist to preserve games. Discs should exist so that we can own our purchases.
no dd sucks, its limited to the console you own , you can not transfer it , ,
and you dont really own it
you onlyown the license you can not sell it its not money making , ,
you cant sell it when yourdone with it ,
i like my collection on my shelf
sure its good for classics but ,,
i rather have myhard copies as well
with DD, I assume I wont be able to trade it, wont be able to get it before the street date,wont be able to get it used, and wont be able to get it without being taxed. I dont like DD at all. FuhgeddaboudittThat second one's false for Steam. Many games you can pre-download and get the key to unlock it at 12AM on the street date.
That's simply because a court hasn't forced them to abide by the 1976 Cpyright Act. Suppose someone takes Valve to court over the matter?you onlyown the license you can not sell it its not money making , ,
you cant sell it when yourdone with it ,
mariokart64fan
That's simply because a court hasn't forced them to abide by the 1976 Cpyright Act. Suppose someone takes Valve to court over the matter?[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]
you onlyown the license you can not sell it its not money making , ,
you cant sell it when yourdone with it ,
HuusAsking
The same act that extended copyright to ridiculous lengths, so that most content will have been long forgotten by the time it enters the public domain? The courts never seem to forget when it's something that favors the publishers.
Anyway, the problem is that the purchase of digital content isn't recognized as ownership right now. You're just paying for access.
[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]That's simply because a court hasn't forced them to abide by the 1976 Cpyright Act. Suppose someone takes Valve to court over the matter?[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]
you onlyown the license you can not sell it its not money making , ,
you cant sell it when yourdone with it ,
ThePlothole
The same act that extended copyright to ridiculous lengths, so that most content will have been long forgotten by the time it enters the public domain? The courts never seem to forget when it's something that favors the publishers.
Anyway, the problem is that the purchase of digital content isn't recognized as ownership right now. You're just paying for access.
Vernor v. Autodesk, 2008 basically ruled, "If it looks like a sale and transacts like a sale, it's a sale." Autodesk tried the same tactic, claiming the license is nontransferrable...and lost. And last I checked, Steam's checkout pages and so on, unlike those of OnLive, never say you're making a rental but rather a purchase. See what I'm getting at. Not only that, the files themselves download onto your drive and, within reason, can even be run.downloading a game that is 5 gb and more just seem like a pain in the behind to me. can you imagine downloading a game that would be 50 - 100 gb and then install them? I would rather just go to the store and buy it
da_illest101
Isn't this funny? It may take longer to download a game, but you can leave your pc and do whatever you want when it's downloading. I can download 5 gbs in about an hour; It goes pretty fast.
Look at how cheap DD games get too. The Steam 4th of July sale for instance.
Metro 2033 - 25 bucks, Just Cause 2 - 25 bucks, Bad Company 2 - 33 bucks, Borderlands - 10 bucks or so, Counter-strike:Source - 6 bucks...
The games are so cheap, there's almost no value in reselling them anyway if you wait a while to sell them.
[QUOTE="da_illest101"]Isn't this funny? It may take longer to download a game, but you can leave your pc and do whatever you want when it's downloading. Also, I can download 5 gbs in about an hour; It goes pretty fast.downloading a game that is 5 gb and more just seem like a pain in the behind to me. can you imagine downloading a game that would be 50 - 100 gb and then install them? I would rather just go to the store and buy it
DragonfireXZ95
Well I can only download a few hundred MB an hour. And I have a 400MB daily cap, except between the hours of 11pm and 4am.
Okay, Cable and DSL usually aren't as restrictive as my Satellite connection. But still Comcast users have for example have a 250GB monthly cap. That 50-100GB download already eats up one to two fifths of that.
Why on earth would they do that? The largest players in the industry in software; EA, Activision-Blizzard, Vivendi, Ubisoft, are primarily publishers. Why would they want to remove themselves from the equation, lose out on so much profit.That survey was rigged by the gaming industry to promote the takeover of Digital Download.erglesmergle
So deny the survey, deny the almost 50% of people answering they prefer DD in this poll?I cant picture anyone this generation who would prefer a digital copy of a game that they could one day lose ownership of over a hard copy of a game that they can sell or keep forever. Rigged survey. Or done in some city in the middle of nowhere with tumbleweed rolling around and frequent sand storms.
erglesmergle
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