$652 PC Ran Warhead Demonstration!!!!

Return of Shinobi is correct actually. I recall Crytek dev having confirmed that the game would run fine on a 7800gtx and C2D 6600, on high details.

I think the game is optimised well enough, but they over hyped their promise a bit.

PullTheTricker

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

How is it damage control? I've proven BOTH your points wrong.

1. They never said Crysis would run on Ultra High with a 7800GTX, you pulled that out of your ***.

2. Windows XP does not run Ultra High, you have to adjust files in the game folder to access the menu and thats still not really Ultra High since Ultra High is really for DX10 and DX10 is obviously absent from XP.

Nagidar

1. No i didnt, im not the only one stating it, High then looks leaps and bounds better than High we have today

2. Wrong it can, just give up, we have mods and tweaks to achieve this, what more do you want, infact im playing it right now on Ultra High;)

1. You said Ultra High, which is not the same as High. You lose this one, you were exagerating.

2. And those same mods could be applied to the real Ultra High settings in DX10, again, you fail, the "trick" in XP you do is NOT the same as the real Ultra High in DX10 mode, DX10 != DX9.

1. Small Error, my message is still the same

2. It is, the end, just accept it, it has no meaning in this arguement

Again, you are YET to answer my main question, so im done with you, not worth arguing with fanboys who chase their own tales

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

How is it damage control? I've proven BOTH your points wrong.

1. They never said Crysis would run on Ultra High with a 7800GTX, you pulled that out of your ***.

2. Windows XP does not run Ultra High, you have to adjust files in the game folder to access the menu and thats still not really Ultra High since Ultra High is really for DX10 and DX10 is obviously absent from XP.

ReturnOfShinobi

1. No i didnt, im not the only one stating it, High then looks leaps and bounds better than High we have today

2. Wrong it can, just give up, we have mods and tweaks to achieve this, what more do you want, infact im playing it right now on Ultra High;)

1. You said Ultra High, which is not the same as High. You lose this one, you were exagerating.

2. And those same mods could be applied to the real Ultra High settings in DX10, again, you fail, the "trick" in XP you do is NOT the same as the real Ultra High in DX10 mode, DX10 != DX9.

1. Small Error, my message is still the same

2. It is, the end, just accept it, it has no meaning in this arguement

Again, you are YET to answer my main question, so im done with you, not worth arguing with fanboys who chase their own tales

1. You admitted it, thats good.

2. No, its not, I have both XP and Vista on my PC, I did this trick on XP and it barely looks as good as Very High on Vista, they are NOT the same.

I don't remember you asking a question, what was the question you asked?

1. You admitted it, thats good.

2. No, its not, I have both XP and Vista on my PC, I did this trick on XP and it barely looks as good as Very High on Vista, they are NOT the same.

I don't remember you asking a question, what was the question you asked?

Nagidar

Personally the Natural Mod is a huge improvement.

So much so it was jaw dropping playing the game a second time round.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

Its normally because you never provide facts or evidence to back up what you claim. Just a hunch though.

ReturnOfShinobi

For someone who complained about being labeled a console gamer in another thread you are awfully quick to label me.

I play my xbox 360 more than PC and I have a Wii. I dont care about you're opinion you can have it if you want but i would like to see all this proof of 3-D leaves and ultra running on a 7 series card. Have an opinion by all means just dont pull stuff out of your ass.

I havent seen you post one peice of evidence so I came to the conculsion you're making stuff up. I dont care if you sent other memebers the evidence i would like to see it myself.

1. 3-D leaves

2. Running on ultra high 7 series card.

Provide your evidence please.

I stand by 3D leaves, and i have proof regarding 7800 GTX, as somebody has said, they said High, i was wrong, but that doesnt change the fact that the game back then looked MUCH better, so that High then was more than the High and who knows Very High we have now.

Again, no proof until you prove what you are trying say, because honestly, this is just another labelling thing and i wont give in to hermit arrogance BS

What? You seem delusional. Or you can't read.

Damn, i'm a hermit and you guys are giving us a bad name. It's so typical of you guys to get your knickers in a twist over some useless bit of info regarding hardware, then you start a 10 page quote war to make yourself look better.

Not all of us hermits are like this, i swear!!!

Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.Verge_6

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

Damn, i'm a hermit and you guys are giving us a bad name. It's so typical of you guys to get your knickers in a twist over some useless bit of info regarding hardware, then you start a 10 page quote war to make yourself look better.

Not all of us hermits are like this, i swear!!!

Night_stalker01

What? How is this useless information? Console fanboys state that you need a $2000 PC to run Crysis. This is pretty big news actually.....

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.trix5817

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

I've read that PC Gamer listed the specs as follows:

Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99
Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99
Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99
A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99
MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99
Vista Home Premium - $109.99

I don't have the magazine myself, so I can't confirm this, though the prices do add up.

Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.Verge_6

Developers exaggerate.

Alot.

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.santeri_15

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

I've read that PC Gamer listed the specs as follows:

Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99
Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99
Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99
A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99
MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99
Vista Home Premium - $109.99

I don't have the magazine myself, so I can't confirm this, though the prices do add up.

Why not just get a mini tower? I guess they arent as portable and snazzy.

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.santeri_15

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

I've read that PC Gamer listed the specs as follows:

Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99
Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99
Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99
A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99
MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99
Vista Home Premium - $109.99

I don't have the magazine myself, so I can't confirm this, though the prices do add up.

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

O_O For every copy of Crysis there were 20 pirates?If that's true then DANG. Also,I wish they would've gave the specs for the system the were running it on.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.skrat_01

Developers exaggerate.

Alot.

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Verge_6

Cheap and its performs well, local pc gaming magazine here recommends it for budget gaming rigs, was going to buy some myself, though equivilant Cosair was on special...

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.killab2oo5

Developers exaggerate.

Alot.

O_O For every copy of Crysis there were 20 pirates?If that's true then DANG. Also,I wish they would've gave the specs for the system the were running it on.

killab2oo5

I don't believe that 'pirates are to blame!' scapegoat for a second.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

skrat_01

Cheap and its performs well, local pc gaming magazine here recommends it for budget gaming rigs, was going to buy some myself, though equivilant Cosair was on special...

There's still the question of the PSU (I believe the 8000 series require at LEAST a 405w), and the shoddy 8600.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Verge_6

Cheap and its performs well, local pc gaming magazine here recommends it for budget gaming rigs, was going to buy some myself, though equivilant Cosair was on special...

There's still the question of the PSU (I believe the 8000 series require at LEAST a 405w), and the shoddy 8600.

I'd just wait until more details emerge.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.trix5817

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

skrat_01

Cheap and its performs well, local pc gaming magazine here recommends it for budget gaming rigs, was going to buy some myself, though equivilant Cosair was on special...

There's still the question of the PSU (I believe the 8000 series require at LEAST a 405w), and the shoddy 8600.

I'd just wait until more details emerge.

That's what I mean, the PSU that comes with the case. From what I've seen, all computers come with the woefully underpowered (for gaming, anyways) 250w PSU.

What? You seem delusional. Or you can't read.

6matt6

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.santeri_15

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

I've read that PC Gamer listed the specs as follows:

Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99
Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99
Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99
A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99
MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99
Vista Home Premium - $109.99

I don't have the magazine myself, so I can't confirm this, though the prices do add up.

So that $226 dollars for the OS

So thats $416 dollars for the componets

that would mean a Mobo, Case, PSU, CPU, Graphcis card, and 4gb of Ram(If not more).

Plus a Keybord and Mouse

and a sound card because I like my flac files, and thus like good sound.

All for less than $416 dollars. Id like to see that PC.

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Spybot_9

Hey there, Painballz. ^^

Also, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with my post.

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Verge_6

Hey there, Painballz. ^^

Also, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with my post.

If I were him then I'll be banned as well as all accounts are simultaneously banned I think.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

1. You admitted it, thats good.

2. No, its not, I have both XP and Vista on my PC, I did this trick on XP and it barely looks as good as Very High on Vista, they are NOT the same.

I don't remember you asking a question, what was the question you asked?

skrat_01

Personally the Natural Mod is a huge improvement.

So much so it was jaw dropping playing the game a second time round.

Very High on XP does not look like Very High on Vista without mods, all this means is with mods for Vista the DX10 version will just keep looking THAT much better, but regardless, Crysis looks good anyway, no one is taking that away, my point is, running Ultra High in XP is NOT the same as running it on Vista, XP does not support DX10, this Shinobi guy doesn't get this and I have Crysis on a PC that has both, XP and Vista.

I haven't seen this Natural Mod, sounds interesting, your pictures aren't showing up for me, let me try to copy the path and paste it into my URL bar.

He said something about asking a question but never told me what that question was....

EDIT: Ok, checked out those pictures, bad spot for a comparisoon though, but anyway, the things I noticed the most with them side by side is lighting and textures.

Those pictures are not good examples, they show no action what soever, the explosions and water effects in Crysis look better in DX10.

EDIT2: Hers a better comparison: http://webpages.charter.net/bliss/

Mouse over the pics to see the difference, these are without mods I believe.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I guess it is doable...but what's the specs on the PSU? I also question the quality of that RAM.

There's also the fact that the 8600 is a lousy gaming GPU.

Verge_6

Cheap and its performs well, local pc gaming magazine here recommends it for budget gaming rigs, was going to buy some myself, though equivilant Cosair was on special...

There's still the question of the PSU (I believe the 8000 series require at LEAST a 405w), and the shoddy 8600.

405w for a single 8600? I think I could run a 8800GTX with that PSU, unless the amps are real low.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3340&p=2

Call me back when they commit to "all promo screenshots and videos will be done on a $652 PC". I'm somehow guessing they're not willing to do that.

Also, they mention "parts purchased online"... do they include an OS? Crytek likely has MSDN, so they wouldn't have to pay for an OS, but I somehow doubt most of you enjoy that advantage - I certainly can't afford it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

rd it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

lowe0

So I take it you've played Cysis warhead then yea?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

rd it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

Kez1984

So I take it you've played Cysis warhead then yea?

On an 8800 GT, the performance sucks, plain and simple. I can't imagine how bad it would be on an 8600, no matter what optimizations they have planned.

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

rd it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

lowe0

So I take it you've played Cysis warhead then yea?

rant/rant/rant/rant/rant

Yea, kinda thought so.

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Didn't they say Crysis would run fine on a late-generation 7000 card? Sorry, I'm not falling for that again.angelkimne

This is IGN saying this, not Crytek. And a $650 PC most likely has a 8800GT with a decent Core2Duo. It's not that hard to believe at all......

No, IGN saw the demonstration with this rig running it. Maybe you should actually read the article....

Call me back when they commit to "all promo screenshots and videos will be done on a $652 PC". I'm somehow guessing they're not willing to do that.

Also, they mention "parts purchased online"... do they include an OS? Crytek likely has MSDN, so they wouldn't have to pay for an OS, but I somehow doubt most of you enjoy that advantage - I certainly can't afford it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

lowe0

IGN said it was smooth......again, read the article please.

And why wouldn't the do promo screenshots to the best it can be? Who wouldn't? You don't see 360 games not being showed to their fullest and in SD......what's your point here?

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

rd it at home.

Edit: yeah, looks like they included an OS (thanks go to whoever dug up the actual list). Still, an 8600? Bull. An 8800 GT can't do a solid 30fps on High at 1280x1024. What's their standard of "playable"?

lowe0

So I take it you've played Cysis warhead then yea?

On an 8800 GT, the performance sucks, plain and simple. I can't imagine how bad it would be on an 8600, no matter what optimizations they have planned.

What? The performance does not suck whatsoever on a 8800GT. I really doubt you've even played the game......

Very High on XP does not look like Very High on Vista without mods, all this means is with mods for Vista the DX10 version will just keep looking THAT much better, but regardless, Crysis looks good anyway, no one is taking that away, my point is, running Ultra High in XP is NOT the same as running it on Vista, XP does not support DX10, this Shinobi guy doesn't get this and I have Crysis on a PC that has both, XP and Vista.

I haven't seen this Natural Mod, sounds interesting, your pictures aren't showing up for me, let me try to copy the path and paste it into my URL bar.

He said something about asking a question but never told me what that question was....

EDIT: Ok, checked out those pictures, bad spot for a comparisoon though, but anyway, the things I noticed the most with them side by side is lighting and textures.

Those pictures are not good examples, they show no action what soever, the explosions and water effects in Crysis look better in DX10.

EDIT2: Hers a better comparison: http://webpages.charter.net/bliss/

Mouse over the pics to see the difference, these are without mods I believe.

Nagidar

The XP v Vista comparison you linked... That is High Dx9 XP vs Very High Dx10 Vista.

The shots I linked were DX9 XP with modified config files, that bring out an almost identical Dx10 very high, vista look.

Its no real mofiying either its just switching system files, or changing a few values in the Cvar files.

Crytek simply 'locked out' the settings on XP, when they could have been done on the OS from the beginning.

Though yea checkout the natural mod (just google it), its well worth it. The visuals look phenominal with it.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]

What? You seem delusional. Or you can't read.

ReturnOfShinobi

All he wants is any proof from you of

3-D leaves

and...

7900 card working on high.

If you don't have any links then that is fine. Just tell us. It' ok.

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

What? You seem delusional. Or you can't read.

-Master_St3ve-

All he wants is any proof from you of

3-D leaves

and...

7900 card working on high.

If you don't have any links then that is fine. Just tell us. It' ok.

Thats all i want and you're trying to make out I'm turning it into a fanboy war. Hence the conclusion you must be delusional.

What? The performance does not suck whatsoever on a 8800GT. I really doubt you've even played the game......

trix5817

Yes, I played it on my PC. Yes, that PC has an 8800 GT in it. Yes, the game's performance sucked. And yes, that PC plays everything else just fine. It's just Crysis that sucked.

Essentially, the question is, "will it look like that out of the box?" With 360 screenshots, yes, it will. Will Crysis look like that on an 8800 GT? Not unless you're okay with 20 fps.

Essentially, the question is, "will it look like that out of the box?" With 360 screenshots, yes, it will. Will Crysis look like that on an 8800 GT? Not unless you're okay with 20 fps.

lowe0

Framerate constant, looks amazing.

You know what, I may actually get this for kicks if it's at least optimized (unlike its predecessor). Honestly, why should I have to set shaders to low (which effectively kills the game in the visual department) with my 8800GS (the newest variant released earlier this year, too), 2 gigs of RAM, and an AMD 5600 CPU to get over 30fps? Far Cry (the x64 variant) looked better than it did and I could get over 60fps on that with my current setup.Verge_6

The GS is a "semi-budget card" being released later doesn't mean it is a better card. GX>GTX>GTS>GT>GS

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]You know what, I may actually get this for kicks if it's at least optimized (unlike its predecessor). Honestly, why should I have to set shaders to low (which effectively kills the game in the visual department) with my 8800GS (the newest variant released earlier this year, too), 2 gigs of RAM, and an AMD 5600 CPU to get over 30fps? Far Cry (the x64 variant) looked better than it did and I could get over 60fps on that with my current setup.Dynafrom

The GS is a "semi-budget card" being released later doesn't mean it is a better card. GX>GTX>GTS>GT>GS

I wouldn't say a $110 GPU is a 'semi-budget' card. And either way, such a low performance with hardware like that is unacceptable.

But it's also coming ut for the 360 and ps3...A $299 360 RAN WARHEAD!!!!blacktorn

Last I heard it was still exclusive to PC.