A clean, fair comparison of Halo 3 and Killzone 2.

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#1 SODRChief
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Pre-orders:1.7 million consumers pre-ordered Halo 3 in the U.S. alone before launch. Killzone 2 - far, far away, actually.

Hype: Halo 3 easily had bigger hype. Killzone 2 - not so much in comparison.

Advertising: Halo 3 had the greatest commercials in gaming history Starry Night rocked! Killzone 2 - a poor slow motion trailer...

Sales: Halo 3 sold about 3 million in its first day. Killzone 2 doesn't come close to this. Halo 3 did 1.8 million in 8 hours, and in the region of 4.5 million in its first week of availability.Halo 3's 8-hour sales are allegedly superior to Killzone 2's lifetime sales! Killzone 2 only did 323,000 in February, 296,000 in March and 58,000 in April.

Reviews: Halo 3 - 9.5 (GameSpot), 93.37 (GameRankings), 94 (Metacritic). Killzone 2 - 9.0 (GameSpot), 90.33 (GameRankings), 91 (Metacritic). Halo 3 wins, no matter what!

Gamer reception: Halo 3 has 1 million daily players (unique, that is) 2 years after release. Killzone 2? Honestly feels dead months after and will probably be buried when Modern Warfare 2 is released.

Movie failure:A movie failed in sales because of Halo 3.[2],[3],[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10],[11]. When was the last time Killzone 2 was so huge that a movie failed because of it?

Oh, and I'm not trying to irritate anyone - just telling you the truth...

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#2 SilverChimera
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a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

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#3 Coffeemakes
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I think it'd be fairer to compare it to ODST, closer release dates.
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#4 *airetam
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u know u forgot to mentio the most important part of any game gameplay and visuals. as a gamer i could much less about sales. atleast killzone didn't lag online at launch

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#5 mixmax5
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I haven't played KZ2 so I have to go with Halo 3. However, your comparison really isn't a comparison at all.

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#6 muay_thai_demon
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I've always wanted to try Halo, but never had the xbox to try it.
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#7 DarkGamer007
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u know u forgot to mentio the most important part of any game gameplay and visuals. as a gamer i could much less about sales. atleast killzone didn't lag online at launch

Airetam

Neither did Halo 3. :|

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#8 AlexSheep
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Quite obvious that the TC loves Killzone 2 :roll:

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a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

SilverChimera
He also spoke of the games quality, and online numbers. People care about that i would assume. Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World. I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.
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u know u forgot to mentio the most important part of any game gameplay and visuals. as a gamer i could much less about sales. atleast killzone didn't lag online at launch

Airetam

Fail post.At lest Halo 3 have more AI enemy's and Allys on screen

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#11 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

-Snooze-

He also spoke of the games quality, and online numbers. People care about that i would assume. Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World. I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.

The Staryy Night is superior to Mad World................

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u know u forgot to mentio the most important part of any game gameplay and visuals. as a gamer i could much less about sales. atleast killzone didn't lag online at launch

Airetam
Lol. Halo launch was flawless. Smooth as anything. Evenw ith the 3 million ro so players jumping online. More players then Killzone is likley to ever reach ...
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

-Snooze-
He also spoke of the games quality, and online numbers. People care about that i would assume. Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World. I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.

he doesn't talk about quality... just numbers which don't affect the game at all
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

He also spoke of the games quality, and online numbers. People care about that i would assume. Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World. I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.

he doesn't talk about quality... just numbers which don't affect the game at all

He talks about how the reviewes scored the game. Scores are normally based on quality ... Number really do effect the game actually, but whatever ...
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I think it'd be fairer to compare it to ODST, closer release dates.Coffeemakes
......What??
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#16 Doomguy_75
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Well that solved the puzzle of which game is better. Well done, we can all let the Halo Vs Killzone topics R.I.P for all eternity. Amazing job.

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#17 finalfantasy94
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I still cant see how can you compare when the feel of both games are very different.

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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] He also spoke of the games quality, and online numbers. People care about that i would assume. Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World. I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.-Snooze-
he doesn't talk about quality... just numbers which don't affect the game at all

He talks about how the reviewes scored the game. Scores are normally based on quality ... Number really do effect the game actually, but whatever ...

score =/= quality. its the reviewers opinion.
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You can do what ever comparison you like, KZ2 is a far better game both SP, MP and Graphics. All the sales numbers show is people seem to like average shooters. The scores for Halo3 were far to generous.
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#20 dragonfly110
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all that really showed was that Halo 3 was a bigger release :?

I mean, you didnt mention anything about visuals, gameplay, story mode, or anything. The whole comparison was from a business standpoint.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] he doesn't talk about quality... just numbers which don't affect the game at allSilverChimera
He talks about how the reviewes scored the game. Scores are normally based on quality ... Number really do effect the game actually, but whatever ...

score =/= quality. its the reviewers opinion.

then that means that no method of comparing quality is valid since all of them are opinions.
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#22 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] he doesn't talk about quality... just numbers which don't affect the game at allSilverChimera
He talks about how the reviewes scored the game. Scores are normally based on quality ... Number really do effect the game actually, but whatever ...

score =/= quality. its the reviewers opinion.

The reviewers opinion on it QUALITY.
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You can do what ever comparison you like, KZ2 is a far better game both SP, MP and Graphics. All the sales numbers show is people seem to like average shooters. The scores for Halo3 were far to generous.djsifer01
You don't even like any Halo game, not even the 1st one, LOL.
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Sorry if I sound like a fanboy but it seems that all the hype behind KZ2 was graphics as to where Halo was everything else but graphics.
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#25 DeadEndPanda
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a clean fair comparison that doesn't compare anything that people care about. nothing new here.

SilverChimera

well its all about personal prefrence, i mean there is no right anwsere if one game is better then an other.

the only way we can do that is to use the info we got about the two games and compare them.

of course could anyone come here and say "that dosent prove anything" but that would also mean a game like "the conduit" could even be better then halo and killzone, afterall no one can prove it wrong. acording to you.

just like everything in systemwars this is also higly debatable

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#26 Camer999
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You can do what ever comparison you like, KZ2 is a far better game both SP, MP and Graphics. All the sales numbers show is people seem to like average shooters. The scores for Halo3 were far to generous.djsifer01

LMAO,Have fun with that...

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#27 Dycras
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imo i like halo better, but you're only comparing sales and stuff, not actual gameplay or anything.

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The one thing about Halo 3, was the fact there there were 2 highly successful games before that. Killzone was a dissappointing first attempt, and they came back with Killzone 2 which was a better, highly enjoyable game.

***And another sad fact is that Xbox fans are still talking about Halo 3, PLEASE get something new to talk about. Its like the only reason you bought your Xbox 360 was to talk about Halo 3 FOREVER.

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Killzone 2 is the best shooter I've played since Half Life 2 episode 2, Halo 3 was a good laugh to me, Honestly I cant have fun with a shooter as slow paced as Halo.
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Killzone 2 is the best shooter I've played since Half Life 2 episode 2, Halo 3 was a good laugh to me, Honestly I cant have fun with a shooter as slow paced as Halo.AgentA-Mi6

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

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#31 SragentThom
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The one thing about Halo 3, was the fact there there were 2 highly successful games before that. Killzone was a dissappointing first attempt, and they came back with Killzone 2 which was a better, highly enjoyable game.

***And another sad fact is that Xbox fans are still talking about Halo 3, PLEASE get something new to talk about. Its like the only reason you bought your Xbox 360 was to talk about Halo 3 FOREVER.

drknockboot2

Since when?

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Killzone 2 is the best shooter I've played since Half Life 2 episode 2, Halo 3 was a good laugh to me, Honestly I cant have fun with a shooter as slow paced as Halo.SragentThom

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myself
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#33 SragentThom
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[QUOTE="SragentThom"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Killzone 2 is the best shooter I've played since Half Life 2 episode 2, Halo 3 was a good laugh to me, Honestly I cant have fun with a shooter as slow paced as Halo.AgentA-Mi6

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myself

It's not stable but you can't tell for some reason.Any ways it happen more in single player.

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Good job comparing everything except the actual gameplay.

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[QUOTE="SragentThom"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Killzone 2 is the best shooter I've played since Half Life 2 episode 2, Halo 3 was a good laugh to me, Honestly I cant have fun with a shooter as slow paced as Halo.AgentA-Mi6

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myself

How is halo3 slower paced than KZ2?

Edit: When you verse better people, the game get instense and fast paced quickly.

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you didnt compare anything about the in game experience. all you compared were things everyone already new halo did better and that was scores, popularity and sales.

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#37 DarthBilf
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He compared everything factual about the 2 games...if he had done anything other than that this would be an even bigger fanboy whinefest. And Halo 3 having universally better reviews might tell you something about quality...I'm not sure how many sports fans are around here, but that would be like a comparrison of the Celtics and the Knicks that shows that the Celtics have had a much better record in the past couple of years and an NBA championship, but then Knicks fans complaining that the comparrison didn't compare the 2 teams positon by position.

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[QUOTE="SragentThom"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="SragentThom"]

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myself

It's not stable but you can't tell for some reason.Any ways it happen more in single player.

thats a load of BS, the frame rate is very stable. have you got a link to support your claim?
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I am curious... when was the last time Halo 3 saw 1 million UNIQUE users? Any time i look on the website it doesn't even reach 500000
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="SragentThom"]

Killzone 2 30fps and lower and Halo 3 is a stable 30fps lulz play Call of duty 4 at 60fps.

Camer999

Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myself

How is halo3 slower paced than KZ2?

Edit: When you verse better people, the game get instense and fast paced quickly.

exactly hes no played halo 3 much when you get in good games the games get hectic and fast paced.
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

The one thing about Halo 3, was the fact there there were 2 highly successful games before that. Killzone was a dissappointing first attempt, and they came back with Killzone 2 which was a better, highly enjoyable game.

***And another sad fact is that Xbox fans are still talking about Halo 3, PLEASE get something new to talk about. Its like the only reason you bought your Xbox 360 was to talk about Halo 3 FOREVER.

SragentThom

Since when?

Since when what? Complete sentences, while you just make up crap.

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BS comparison.:roll: You did not say anything about gameplay, and only proved how halo 3 was more popular. More popular /=/ better. FAIL.
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Just stating the oh so obvious.
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#45 ropumar
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Lets compare DOOM 1 review scores with Halo 3 and declare a winner,

You cant compare review scores of game set 2years apart. Reviewers scores change because each year the reviwer expectetions rises.

(unless the reviewer is reviewing a Wii game, where the standard still last-gen);)

That is why a sequel has to be better to get the same score. Technology and budget increases, new games are released, expectation rises, even GoW2 surpassed Halo3 in lots of counts.

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#46 urdead18
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Graphics, online, gameplay.

Those are the categories that matter, not sales or numbers or statistics.

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#47 WilliamRLBaker
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Graphics, online, gameplay.

Those are the categories that matter, not sales or numbers or statistics.

urdead18
all subjective. Graphically halo 3 looked great at release. Online...well lets see more people play it so it must be good so halo 3 gets that as well. Gameplay yeah its subjective I find killzone 2s gameplay to be generic and worthless with so many problems. Halo 3 is just as generic but lemmings don't claim that killzone2 is some sort of keynote in fps history or something.
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#48 Camer999
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Killzone 2 has a stable frame rate, I haven't really noticed any drops myselfWilliamRLBaker

How is halo3 slower paced than KZ2?

Edit: When you verse better people, the game get instense and fast paced quickly.

exactly hes no played halo 3 much when you get in good games the games get hectic and fast paced.

Yea, I love how people in here think H3 takes no skill and don't even understand how deep it can be, it is easy to pick up but hard to master.

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#49 SODRChief
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These are just the facts, people! He he.

But the critics are saying that Halo 3 indeed is superior to Killzone 2 in gameplay, sound, story and so on...

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Side Note. I never seen any Halo advertisements in the UK, and i highly doubt ANY game commercial can possible dethrone Gears of War/Mad World.
I had no idea what the game even was, but i knew i had to have it.-Snooze-

wow seriously? when it came out it had the advert with two children laying in the grass and then the kid stands up grabs a helmet and starts fighting as master chief, it's an awesome advert i remember seeing it a few times in the uk.

the gears one was probably the biggest advert in terms of lasting appeal and how many times it was shown, but halo definitely had a big campaign.

this was the advert